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Asad Shafiq breaks Sir Gary Sobers' record of most hundreds by a #6 batsman [Update Post #162]

He is one of those players who has to score 50+ in every innings to convince a few people that he merits selection, that too barely.

How dare he got out for a single digit score, after 3 hundreds and an 80 in his previous 5 innings.
 
Like i have always maintained. A highly inconsistent player and people attach too many expectations to him without understanding his limitations. Historically after every big score he goes through a long stretch of failures.
 
I think this is because anybody who does well at six is eventually promoted up the order. Six is where a lot of new batsmen start out.
 
#6 is one of the harder batting slots (easier than #1,2,3 and harder than #4,5) because you often bat with the tail, and you are often required to score at quick pace to setup a target. You are also likely to encounter the second new ball and or/reverse swing with the first old ball most of the time. Handing spinners will also be harder for #6 batsmen because the ball is older. (Of course, all these apply more for the first innings)
 
Good chance for him to equal the great Garry Sobers.

If he does it will have done it in lesser number of innings at #6
 
Some people wanted him to be dropped just so Shan Masood could continue playing.

Let that sink in.
 
Good man. I am big fan (even in odi's). but I want him to continue to turnaround challenging situations. He will need the mental reserve next year as we the top 3 will get blown away regularly.
 
Bilal7 said:
Some people wanted him to be dropped just so Shan Masood could continue playing.

Let that sink in.
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the some people on thsi forum know nothing about cricket. INMHO as a an armchair fan the best way to get to know a bit more about the game is to watch tons of matches and read about he game. Not sure some of our kiddy brigade have been able to do so much.
 
the Great Khan said:
the some people on thsi forum know nothing about cricket. INMHO as a an armchair fan the best way to get to know a bit more about the game is to watch tons of matches and read about he game. Not sure some of our kiddy brigade have been able to do so much.
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Quite Sad but extremely true :( The Kiddy Birgade genuinely believes that Shezzy is next coming of Tendu while Shan, Junior and Amin are the next big thing in world cricket since they are pleasing on the eyes. True grinders such and Azhar and Shafiq hardly get any recognition while both these blokes have engineered so many previous wins for Pakistan over the course of the last 3-4 years
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Quite Sad but extremely true :( The Kiddy Birgade genuinely believes that Shezzy is next coming of Tendu while Shan, Junior and Amin are the next big thing in world cricket since they are pleasing on the eyes. True grinders such and Azhar and Shafiq hardly get any recognition while both these blokes have engineered so many previous wins for Pakistan over the course of the last 3-4 years
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i swear the next time one of he kiddy brigade say something stupid im going to rip into them...very annoying..
 
Well played. Long may he continue to troll the fans in odi's
 
I wonder why is not able to replicate this in the ODI format? If Azhar Ali can score a few then Shafiq should be able to score some runs on a consistent base as well. But he keeps failing in the ODI format. Strange.

He has been tried out on many positions as well. Probably like Younus another one who is tailor made for Test cricket.
 
Level with the legendary West Indian
 
Asad rubbing shoulders with greatness now! It'd be great if he broke the record this series now.

Mods, change the title! [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]
 
Break the record and then he will probably be promoted to number 5 when misbah and yk retire.


Brilliant record at 6.
 
This Test is developing into a nightmare for [MENTION=139202]11ShadyBrothers[/MENTION]. :sree

Hafeez got the nod over Shehzad and scored 98, now Shafiq scoring a hundred.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Break the record and then he will probably be promoted to number 5 when misbah and yk retire.


Brilliant record at 6.
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Number four

Our future middle order will be

3. Azhar
4. Asad
5. Haris
6. Malik/Babar
 
Slog said:
Number four

Our future middle order will be

3. Azhar
4. Asad
5. Haris
6. Malik/Babar
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Forget about ahris , he can't keep fit for 6 months a years. Pakistan will have to ultimately look past him. Malik though has done well in this match but I feel he will be temporary in the test squad as he wont be able to survive the english and australian tour , good luck to him though.
 
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Excellent player, comes across as a little timid so needs to add some confidence to the way he carries himself.
 
Mamoon said:
This Test is developing into a nightmare for [MENTION=139202]11ShadyBrothers[/MENTION]. :sree

Hafeez got the nod over Shehzad and scored 98, now Shafiq scoring a hundred.
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If he had decent cricketing knowledge, he would know which horses to back.
 
Most underrated player in this batting lineup - quality player.
 
Congrats to the boy..he can't do anymore to shut the mouth of many closet haters.

someone tell asad and sarfraz to retire from cricket.. people in pakistan dont really like players who play for the country.. rather its all about saada lahore da munda, saada sialkot da munda.. paindu mentality.. baradri over merit and country.

someone even suggested to drop him for Haaris sohail.. if thats not height of deep ridden hatred against these guys i dont know what is
 
*syed59* said:
Congrats to the boy..he can't do anymore to shut the mouth of many closet haters.

someone tell asad and sarfraz to retire from cricket.. people in pakistan dont really like players who play for the country.. rather its all about saada lahore da munda, saada sialkot da munda.. paindu mentality.. baradri over merit and country.

someone even suggested to drop him for Haaris sohail.. if thats not height of deep ridden hatred against these guys i dont know what is
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Lol one very special poster claimed that if Harris Sohail had played as many innings as Shafiq at no.6 he would have gotten twice the amount of centuries minimum . :)))
 
if having the best statistical #6 in the history of the game isn't enough for these people then I don't know what else will do for them :facepalm:
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
if having the best statistical #6 in the history of the game isn't enough for these people then I don't know what else will do for them :facepalm:
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he wouldnt had to make half those runs to be famous and loved and attained a permanent untouchable position in the team.. had he been from a different domicile.. simple as that. everyone knows it.
 
*syed59* said:
he wouldnt had to make half those runs to be famous and loved and attained a permanent untouchable position in the team.. had he been from a different domicile.. simple as that. everyone knows it.
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This ^^ I sometimes feel really sad knowing that even up till now with the new generation and everything regional bias is so deep rooted in among us that subconsciously and unintentionally most of the general public sway towards the player from their particular region/province no matter how crap he could be.

I have even read on PP somewhere people suggesting Amin over Shafiq in tests since shafiq is crap in ODI... I was like :facepalm:
 
Slog said:
Lol one very special poster claimed that if Harris Sohail had played as many innings as Shafiq at no.6 he would have gotten twice the amount of centuries minimum . :)))
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wohi hai na.. these people claiming such have no fear of haq marna.. bemani.. beinsaafi etc etc..
just let them have players play from their own baradri.. that is it.. even if their are better players available who gives.. pakistan for them is confined to one province.. anything outside is like burden.
 
Seems to be an all or nothing batsmen in terms of his scoring but hes cashed in here today.
 
Still dont rate him.
Scored a hundred but never looked convincing on the flattest deck in tge world n against an attack that is nowhere close to being suited to the conditions.

This wait n grind approach will expose a number of these borefest batsmen in the next season.
 
*syed59* said:
wohi hai na.. these people claiming such have no fear of haq marna.. bemani.. beinsaafi etc etc..
just let them have players play from their own baradri.. that is it.. even if their are better players available who gives.. pakistan for them is confined to one province.. anything outside is like burden.
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Stop with this regionalism bs.
U n ur pal fahadshah r the biggest whiners on pp.
Stop defaming us karachiites. Baradri my foot
 
Asad Shafiq equals Sir Gary Sobers in number of tons from No.6 position

Congrats to shafiq. Good, well deserved ton.
Issues remain however. Looked scratchy as hell when he came on. Not to forget some english player dropped his catch as well in the start of his innings.
 
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11ShadyBrothers said:
Congrats to shafiq. Good, well deserved ton.
Issues remain however. Looked scratchy as hell when he came on. Not to forget some english player dropped his catch as well in the start of his innings.
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You can only play the hand you are dealt. How many batsmen make a chancless century? Its not his fault England dropped his catch but its more about making it count.
 
its funny how no one else cares about this landmark. No media coverage, breaking news flash etc.
 
He is such a confusing player. Consistently good in tests, especially in the last two years he has found his spot (though not his most convincing innings today), but awful in ODIs.

I think we should just accept tests is his forte, just as it is for YK and accept him for his prowess there.
 
Rana said:
its funny how no one else cares about this landmark. No media coverage, breaking news flash etc.
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its not a landmark.

its just a metric to gauge performance against batsmen who have played a similar role and see whether he has been a success in comparison to them.
 
Furthermore congratulations, he has had a lot of negative attention towards him, mainly due to his poor form in ODIs, but tests he has only proven his mettle and he deserves recognition.
 
Eureka said:
You can only play the hand you are dealt. How many batsmen make a chancless century? Its not his fault England dropped his catch but its more about making it count.
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Agree. He and hafeez made england pay big time for dropping those catches.
 
Slog said:
its not a landmark.

its just a metric to gauge performance against batsmen who have played a similar role and see whether he has been a success in comparison to them.
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Let's give him some credit. Look at the players on that list, he is in some great company and plays at a position where it is difficult to score big runs.

Now, I will say that his runs a lot of the time don't tend to be a part of big wins, but again the position also matters.

Can't fault him for his team scoring 500 a lot of the time when he comes to play.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Because only on PP someone would jump and down on some random stat who no one cares about.
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I see what you are saying, I do, but we have to give him some credit no? It isn't a list of buffoons and nobodies. It shouldn't be a historic clap of hands, but a solid well done to a player who has done fairly well in tests and whom many of us are still weary of at the 3-5 position because he tends to never show up in big matches, but we shall see.
 
Ilan Bluestone said:
Let's give him some credit. Look at the players on that list, he is in some great company and plays at a position where it is difficult to score big runs.

Now, I will say that his runs a lot of the time don't tend to be a part of big wins, but again the position also matters.

Can't fault him for his team scoring 500 a lot of the time when he comes to play.
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tbf he's made runs in a variety of different situations and definitely rescued us a few times when we were heading for a collapse. So he definitely can play according to the situation

All he needs now is to put a stamp of authority while batting and totally dominate the bowlers because he has the ability to do so. He ends up being extra cautious at times.
 
Ilan Bluestone said:
I see what you are saying, I do, but we have to give him some credit no? It isn't a list of buffoons and nobodies. It shouldn't be a historic clap of hands, but a solid well done to a player who has done fairly well in tests and whom many of us are still weary of at the 3-5 position because he tends to never show up in big matches, but we shall see.
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Yes. Credit where it is due. Lets hope he performs in the other matches as well so that naysayers like me cant say he is highly inconsistent as he has historically shown to be.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Yes. Credit where it is due. Lets hope he performs in the other matches as well so that naysayers like me cant say he is highly inconsistent as he has historically shown to be.
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Trust me, if anyone is as weary of Shafiq, it is I, however the last two years he has been very good.

ODIs however, I do believe he will never be anything, nor has he done anything to deserve a spot. He's averaging more than 60 in his last 11 tests. That is consistency if I have ever heard.
 
He has the potential and time to end up as one of our Test greats. Ditto Azhar.
 
Great achievement. But still he cannot be trusted to give performance when it matters most.
 
srh said:
Great achievement. But still he cannot be trusted to give performance when it matters most.
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like when? perhaps when we needed someone to stay with a set batsman on a hundred? or perhaps when we needed to bat out to save a match in sri lanka few years ago. The fact is he has more hundreds that some other so called "great" players and is a fighter which is what we need..he is also relatively young and can still learn!!
 
the Great Khan said:
like when? perhaps when we needed someone to stay with a set batsman on a hundred? or perhaps when we needed to bat out to save a match in sri lanka few years ago. The fact is he has more hundreds that some other so called "great" players and is a fighter which is what we need..he is also relatively young and can still learn!!
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Didn't he get that hundred against SA in SA as well when we were on the ropes
 
Dean Jones: "He has runs against South Africa in South Africa. He has runs against Aussies, NZ, SL. What more do you want from him? Enough is enough. There is no need for there to be a discussion on his place."
 
Mamoon said:
He has the potential and time to end up as one of our Test greats. Ditto Azhar.
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Maybe going a bit too far, but he definitely deserves some credit for performing pretty consistently in tests. Not the most gifted batsman but a solid technique and a good batting brain are more important qualities and he has both. Not something you can say about many Pakistan batsmen.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Maybe going a bit too far, but he definitely deserves some credit for performing pretty consistently in tests. Not the most gifted batsman but a solid technique and a good batting brain are more important qualities and he has both. Not something you can say about many Pakistan batsmen.
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From our lot he is most likely to do well and cope with English, Saffer and NZ conditions. Deano, Saqi and Robin Smith saying this.
 
Indeed a fine test player and his success and place in playing TEST XI shouldn't be question as long as he's performing.

At no 6 it's not easy to bat, because usually you're batting with last recognize players followed by tail. Also, he normally has to extent the lead or help in chase. Not the mention facing second or third new ball.

Therefore, due to all above factors, I believe he's doing an excellent job. But once Misbah and Younis are gone, then he should bat at 4 or 5.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Maybe going a bit too far, but he definitely deserves some credit for performing pretty consistently in tests. Not the most gifted batsman but a solid technique and a good batting brain are more important qualities and he has both. Not something you can say about many Pakistan batsmen.
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Tbh, the bar is not very high for Pakistani batsmen. Azhar and Shafiq are probably half way there - 3000 runs, 8/9 hundreds at a healthy average. If they can double that tally which there is no reason why they shouldn't and get around 7000 runs and 15+ hundreds at a 45+ average, they will eclipse Zaheer and Saleem Malik in Tests and then you have only the big 4 - Miandad, Younis, Inzamam and MoYo ahead of them.

Of course they are plenty of ifs in there and the tours of England and Australia will be thorough examinations as well but my point is that both have a very solid foundation to build on, something no other Test batsman of ours has had since Younis.

They are entering their peak years and unless they decline massively, the next 5-6 years should be the most fruitful of their careers and they will form the backbone of our Test lineup after the retirement of Misbah and Younis.
 
Slog said:
Dean Jones: "He has runs against South Africa in South Africa. He has runs against Aussies, NZ, SL. What more do you want from him? Enough is enough. There is no need for there to be a discussion on his place."
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this..enough..he has runs whats the problem?? oh yeah he doesnt hit a flashy cover drive so our kiddy brigade can salivate for two minutes..
 
Slog said:
From our lot he is most likely to do well and cope with English, Saffer and NZ conditions. Deano, Saqi and Robin Smith saying this.
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He and Azhar Ali have already had some limited success in English conditions, although neither really went on to make a standout innings. But I think they will next summer.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Asad rubbing shoulders with greatness now! It'd be great if he broke the record this series now.

Mods, change the title! [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]
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Who knows the Neesh could match Shafiq one day [emoji14]

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Move Misbah down to 6 for rest of the series. Asad should have moved up a year ago. Misbah doesn't deserve the #5 spot anymore or any spot for that matter.
 
JibranAnsari said:
He will soon surpass sobers.

Misbah and Younis will retire after the australia tour in 2016. After that Shafiq will be promoted to number 4 or 5. Our new number 6 will be Umar Amin I guess.
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Hell not, that poor excuse of a batsman should be no where be near the team...I will gladly take Imad or Harris on number 6
 
he has amazing mental reserve and very compact he doesnt have aggressive stroke or else he would be needed in ODI also
 
Its a bit sad that he wont overtake the record (HAS Equalled it) but i guess the move up was well overdue.

ps: bumped this thread to copy the table for another thread.
 
Slog said:
Its a bit sad that he wont overtake the record (HAS Equalled it) but i guess the move up was well overdue.

ps: bumped this thread to copy the table for another thread.
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You're assuming the move up to 3 is permanent. Knowing the Pakistani team management and their love for Hafeez, one or two strong odi games and he'll be right up there opening in test cricket yet again, with Azhar back at 3 and Asad at 6.

On a side note, I am getting so desperate about the Odi team that I want Asad to get yet another chance. He is at least a talented player unlike Malik/Hafeez/etc.
 
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