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Just another Indo-Pakistani Young batsmen Comparison thread.Whom you people think will be a better batsman 5 years from now and the reasons
 
So far its Rahane, also he has a aggressive side to him. Yet to see Shafiq counterattack vs a good bowling attack. He's good though much better than over hyped Shehzad and U akmal. But he's not flashy so obviously not preferred much by Pak fans.
 
He could be our version of Rahane, but right now its Rahane above Shafiq.
 
I should add that man for man the Indian batsmen will have an advantage over Pakistani counterparts because the FTP does not favor us. We simply wont travel as much to the big three as india will.
 
Equally good. Right now both are in the right direction as far as test are concerned
 
Let Rahane play some home tests.Rahane has hardly played at home,averages 47 overseas,for all we know he could be a green track bully
 
Pete Rose said:
I should add that man for man the Indian batsmen will have an advantage over Pakistani counterparts because the FTP does not favor us. We simply wont travel as much to the big three as india will.
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Yes it can be a factor as playing in foreign conditions actually helps you in identifying your strengths and weakness and progress from there on.
 
Rahane's record would look so much better if he stops being given out unfairly by the umpires. This may sound like whining, but poor guy gets 2 or 3 bad calls every series.
 
But purely from a viewer's perspective, Rahane is easy on the eye and very elegant to watch
 
both are pretty much crap at the one day level,Rahane has potential but very inconsistent
 
Not even a debate. Rahane. Every day. Has much more mental strength. I would love if Pakistan had a Rahane.
 
Rahane is a bouncy/pace track bully.Thats why he has away avg of 47 and home avg of 12-13.
 
desi_launda said:
both are pretty much crap at the one day level,Rahane has potential but very inconsistent
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Sandeep said:
In the world? Can't comment.. But one of the better timers in India for sure
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Sandeep said:
Ashwin is as good a timer, if not better
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That was an over the top comment.
They are plenty of better timers of the ball than Rahane still he is very good.

Just to name à few: hales, Ronchi, Hafeez, Afridi, Ashwin and many many others.
 
Electron said:
Rahane's record would look so much better if he stops being given out unfairly by the umpires. This may sound like whining, but poor guy gets 2 or 3 bad calls every series.
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This, and always in the crucial third/fourth innings.
 
shafiq has failed to live up to expectation

he is one of the few young players who have been backed and given a long run but it's a fact that he has failed to deliver the goods

he should be dropped ASAP before it's too late
 
I'll take Shafiq in tests. Take nothingaway from Rahane though, both are quality batsmen and great to watch when settled.
 
So far Shafiq has shown he is a pathetic batsman who for some reason slides his way into the team even though he cant bat
 
Gunner85 said:
Just another Indo-Pakistani Young batsmen Comparison thread.Whom you people think will be a better batsman 5 years from now and the reasons
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very ordinary OP in my opinion.

The Indian batsman makes it to the national squad after 1 competes against 1.1 BILLION people
Pakistan batsman makes it to the national squad after 1 completes against 180 million.

A simple basic logic suggests that, most likely, the Indian batsman will always be of better quality for two reasons.

(a) - Coming through a much tougher and 10 times more competitive grind
(b) - In India, the batting part of cricket dominates their cricket culture. A good batsman is treated like a mahraja so everyone wants to become a batsman.
 
FreeBird said:
very ordinary OP in my opinion.

The Indian batsman makes it to the national squad after 1 competes against 1.1 BILLION people
Pakistan batsman makes it to the national squad after 1 completes against 180 million.

A simple basic logic suggests that, most likely, the Indian batsman will always be of better quality for two reasons.

(a) - Coming through a much tougher and 10 times more competitive grind
(b) - In India, the batting part of cricket dominates their cricket culture. A good batsman is treated like a mahraja so everyone wants to become a batsman.
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No its not that simple ... playing pool of serious cricketers in India and Pakistan would be closer than that ... maybe India has twice the number but wont be more than that. Also, all this only since last 10 year .. earlier batsmen were coming from Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata and Banglore only
 
Noobosauras said:
No its not that simple ... playing pool of serious cricketers in India and Pakistan would be closer than that ... maybe India has twice the number but wont be more than that. Also, all this only since last 10 year .. earlier batsmen were coming from Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata and Banglore only
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The same argument can be made in Pakistan, not only that, in terms of numbers it's still not even close.

Not that I think it's a good reason by any means but if you will talk of a numbers game the discrepancy is massive.
 
Imagine rahane and mominul batting together.

I would love to have Rahane in our test team. Any team barring SA would grab him.
 
There isn't a question of doubt that Rahane is better player in all aspects than chamcha Shafiq who can't bat nor field
 
Noobosauras said:
No its not that simple ... playing pool of serious cricketers in India and Pakistan would be closer than that ... maybe India has twice the number but wont be more than that. Also, all this only since last 10 year .. earlier batsmen were coming from Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata and Banglore only
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Dhawan, Kohli - Delhi
Vijay - Chennai
Rahane, Rohit - Mumbai

Only Pujara in the top 6 is not from the metros.

Even during the time of fab 4, we had
Sehwag, Gambhir - Delhi
Dravid - Bangalore
Sachin - Mumbai
Ganguly - Kolkatta
VVS - Hyderabad

I guess test batting was and is still dominated by batsmen from the metros.
 
Test batting as said by the above person is still more from metro because its an Academy kinda game and i don't see that improving anytime.The problem also is the way people from other town and cities play at junior level is restricted to concentration and smash the bowl i don't think anyone would learn to defend it.
 
am an extremely big fan of Rahane, he is the one Indian player who I would sit & watch and genuinely hope does well every time.

All silken touch and timing, such an effortless batsman.
 
AZ said:
am an extremely big fan of Rahane, he is the one Indian player who I would sit & watch and genuinely hope does well every time.

All silken touch and timing, such an effortless batsman.
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Struggles massively against off-spin unless playing domestic.
 
Another thread overhyping Asad.

There is differance of day and light between Asad and Rahane.Rahane is a complete package.Asad is just a hack, very inconsistent with a poor stat.He just recently increased his test average a bit on flat roads of UAE

I dont think Asad will be given a go in any top 6 sides, whereas Rahane can make into any
 
JaDed said:
Struggles massively against off-spin unless playing domestic.
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Hes one of the best players of spin we have . I have seen Rahane play for years now . Just cos he got out a couple of times dosent make him weak .

As for OP , I like Asad . Hes one of the few pak bats who play proper cricket . I have been saying he will do well a good 2 years before ppers started rating him , but .....Rahane is in a different league . He was averaging 70 in domestic till recently . Potentially a 55 avg batsmen in Test cricket . The guy plays such effortless cricket , its not even a contest
 
Rahane is a far superior batsman and over the years it will be evident.

Asad is good but is a limited batsman. They are not in the same league talentwise.
 
Asad Shafiq VS Ajinkya Rahane

Who do you think is the better test player and why ?

Asad Test Avg 43 8 100s

Rahane Test Avg 44 6 100s

To me rahane looks more compact but asad has natural batting style which rahane doesn't have.
 
Rahane is easily the better batsman, but Shafiq can become Pakistan's Rahane overseas.
 
Rahane is better. I think both will do well overseas tbh. Also both should be batting higher in test matches.
 
Now what is a natural batting style?

And how is Rahane's batting style unnatural / artificial?
 
As I said in the match thread....impressed.....Shafiq is going to be part of the Magnificent 7 group of batsmen that will take cricket into the future

Virat,Warner,Smith,Root,Williamson,ABDV and Shafiq

2nd Tier-Super 8'S
Rahane,Rohit Sharma,Amla,Cook,Ahmed Shezad,Azhar Ali,Darren Bravo and Usman Khwaja
 
blue_champion said:
As I said in the match thread....impressed.....Shafiq is going to be part of the Magnificent 7 group of batsmen that will take cricket into the future

Virat,Warner,Smith,Root,Williamson,ABDV and Shafiq

2nd Tier-Super 8'S
Rahane,Rohit Sharma,Amla,Cook,Ahmed Shezad,Azhar Ali,Darren Bravo and Usman Khwaja
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Your love for Rohit Sharma knows no bounds. :P

Rahane is tier 1 in terms of quality (maybe not in terms of star material but that's due to his LOI batting).

Vijay is tier 1 in terms of quality too (but doesn't get enough recognition but time will change it).
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Your love for Rohit Sharma knows no bounds. :P

Rahane is tier 1 in terms of quality (maybe not in terms of star material but that's due to his LOI batting).

Vijay is tier 1 in terms of quality too (but doesn't get enough recognition but time will change it).
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This is about Shafiq's tier.....Doesn't matter who is in which tier it is personal perspective.....Shafiq is tier 1 :)
 
Shafiq doesn't look like a puppy when the ball hits on pads compared to Rahane but needs to play longer,Interesting times.
 
Shafiq is a marginally better bat than Rahane.. But the difference between the two is a millimeter thin..
 
Rahane is better because he can score centuries. Shafiq seems to throw his wicket away in 70s and 80s.

I think if he starts batting at #4, he will score more runs.
 
Both are good batters for their respective team.
Both have their weakness and both have their strength.
Both try to give best for the team. Both probably work hard to be where they are
Is it really required to compare?
 
mp812rediff said:
Both are good batters for their respective team.
Both have their weakness and both have their strength.
Both try to give best for the team. Both probably work hard to be where they are
Is it really required to compare?
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Cracked me up, captain obvious :)))
 
This is the first time I have seen Shafiq bat, looked pretty well settled out there... I would prefer rahane in my team though..
 
saadsahabjee said:
Who do you think is the better test player and why ?

Asad Test Avg 43 8 100s

Rahane Test Avg 44 6 100s

To me rahane looks more compact but asad has natural batting style which rahane doesn't have.
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Cant believe Rahane only averages 44 in tests; he should be averaging 50+
 
srh said:
Cant believe Rahane only averages 44 in tests; he should be averaging 50+
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I think Indians were touring a lot and it was first tour for many venues for him. And now, they prepared turners at home against SA where no one was able to score much from the both sides. All tours and SA series must be around 80-90% of his career so far.
 
Asad Shafiq must learn to score daddy hundreds. That's what separates boys :hafeez from men :yk He has a tendency to get out after doing all the hard work. Must learn to cash on starts for our batting's sake

At the end of Australia tour we'll know who is truly better, Asad or Ajinkya.
 
blue_champion said:
As I said in the match thread....impressed.....Shafiq is going to be part of the Magnificent 7 group of batsmen that will take cricket into the future

Virat,Warner,Smith,Root,Williamson,ABDV and Shafiq

2nd Tier-Super 8'S
Rahane,Rohit Sharma,Amla,Cook,Ahmed Shezad,Azhar Ali,Darren Bravo and Usman Khwaja
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Amla @ tier 2? are you kidding? He's clearly ahead of all batsman in the tier 1.
 
Shafiq has been remarkable for us at no. 6. Rahane is a top order batsman. Both are good but cant compare them statistically because both bat at different positions
 
Only difference I see is once Rahane crosses a 50 makes sure he gets to a 100 and can bat well even with tail. Asad is very good, almost getting there. IMO he should bat higher.
 
Tch tch Shafiq...can't even score a ton at Lord's. :batman:
 
blue_champion said:
As I said in the match thread....impressed.....Shafiq is going to be part of the Magnificent 7 group of batsmen that will take cricket into the future

Virat,Warner,Smith,Root,Williamson,ABDV and Shafiq

2nd Tier-Super 8'S
Rahane,Rohit Sharma,Amla,Cook,Ahmed Shezad,Azhar Ali,Darren Bravo and Usman Khwaja
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Amla is better than all the other guys you've mentioned, LOL at Shafiq, Virat and Warner in tier 1 and Rohit and Shezzy in tier 2 :)))
 
i think both are better than what they give themselves credit for

Shafiq looks more in control at times whereas Rahane looks a scaredy cat even when he' sset for some odd reason
 
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