Ashes 2025/26: Australia vs England | 4th Test | Melbourne | December 26-30 | Match Discussion

[jnaveen1980]

Australia, and the Southern Hemisphere in general, has become a very tough place to bat in recent times.

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Top 3 venues for seam movement are all in Australia

You have to take the game to a stage where ball becomes very old like 30 to 40 overs.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Flat pitch - England lost
Bouncy pitch - England lost
Pink ball pitch - England lost
Green mamba - ????

What is the kind of pitch England likes so that Australia can design pitches suiting their wish. Aussies are relentless mocking the arrogant pre-series speech now.

 

[Human786]

Not unheard of. But they result in scoring games

scoring games ? Can you list 5 Tests matches in last 5 years where pitch had 10mm of grass ?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Australia, and the Southern Hemisphere in general, has become a very tough place to bat in recent times.

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Top 3 venues for seam movement are all in Australia

I remember last year when Ind toured, people were expecting SCG to be flat which usually is true but it turned out to be the most difficult pitch of the entire tour.

I think they are deliberately preparing these pitches as they know that Bazballers are amazing on Flat beds.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

This Ashes is a perfect example of how all teams prepare(or tamper) their home pitches for victory.


The likes of MCG and SCG used to be flat tracks with true bounce but seeing how Bazballers play on flat pitches they modified their pitches.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

scoring games ? Can you list 5 Tests matches in last 5 years where pitch had 10mm of grass ?

*low scoring

 

[Devadwal]

Even India may start losing 0-5 in Australia moving forward.

It is because there is no more Kohli, Rohit, Pujara etc. Bumrah and Pant declined also.

Hahahahaha kanglu fan's are showing their Cricketing knowledge

 

[jnaveen1980]

I remember last year when Ind toured, people were expecting SCG to be flat which usually is true but it turned out to be the most difficult pitch of the entire tour.

I think they are deliberately preparing these pitches as they know that Bazballers are amazing on Flat beds.

Let us put this way. SCG never behaved like this ever in my memory. Even in 1999 tour which was supposedly slightly spicier Laxman made 167 in 200 balls or so. He butchered 150k Brett Lee for 52 runs in 5 overs.

 

[Devadwal]

@The Bald Eagle how Many runs FTB , statpadder Temu Tendulkar scored at MCG ?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

scoring games ? Can you list 5 Tests matches in last 5 years where pitch had 10mm of grass ?

I said it's not unheard of. Not that it's common. Last Ashes Boxing Day Test also had 10 mm grass length .

Shield matches have, sometimes, longer grass as well

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@The Bald Eagle how Many runs FTB , statpadder Temu Tendulkar scored at MCG ?

Root needs to produce one big innings in the rest of the tour too, will make it easier to tease fans like yourself

 

[jnaveen1980]

Steve smith is totally done. He is trying to dance his way into form. This is not exactly a great series. Nothing to do with quality of bowling. He is almost at the end of the rope. HE may score again. But Aussies can see his end is near.

 

[Devadwal]

Root needs to produce one big innings in the rest of the tour too, will make it easier to tease fans like yourself

Just 3 inning left and yet again FTB root failed despite Australia missing three frontline Bowler's for 4 out of 5 test.

 

[sweep_shot]

Will Test be over by Day 2? That would be farcical.

It should go to Day 3 at least.

 

[CricVet]

OFF TOPIC:
IF Temu is so awful, I wonder what would be the quality of an Indian version?


BACK to the topic:
Grass is not always the only factor in this test and NEVER it always is. The fans just do not have any sense of how atmosphere plays the role. OR, they just IGNORE it to ASSERT a point. I am not gonna go in detail when all the info about it is there on everyone's fingertip. Was it overcast conditions that resulted the fall of 20 wickets or just the presence of grass ONLY - or BOTH?

It is the exact reason one can't compare 2 batsmen in my opinion unless they are playing together at the same time - they always play under different conditions which effects the batting (or bowling which is a different matter). But hey, as long as statistics is creating a drama, we tend to enjoy this sensation.

 

[Human786]

OFF TOPIC:
IF Temu is so awful, I wonder what would be the quality of an Indian version?


BACK to the topic:
Grass is not always the only factor in this test and NEVER it always is. The fans just do not have any sense of how atmosphere plays the role. OR, they just IGNORE it to ASSERT a point. I am not gonna go in detail when all the info about it is there on everyone's fingertip. Was it overcast conditions that resulted the fall of 20 wickets or just the presence of grass ONLY - or BOTH?

It is the exact reason one can't compare 2 batsmen in my opinion unless they are playing together at the same time - they always play under different conditions which effects the batting (or bowling which is a different matter). But hey, as long as statistics is creating a drama, we tend to enjoy this sensation.

Was bright & sunny after lunch btw ...

 

[jnaveen1980]

Boland's reception today more or less equaled the top biggest roaring moments at the G

* Warne's 700th wicket (2006)
* Mitchell Johnsons 2013 dominating spell and sledging
* Dennis Lille's spell against Richards in 1981

Those are the moments that had highest crowd involvement.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

England are so poor that they can't even chase 150 runs target here, although Bazball madness brags about chasing 400