At least 10 killed, several injured in Lahore blast

[Syed1]

And its sad to see people like you who bring your political agendas out and always look for such incidents to happen so you can start your anti-nawaz brigade. Think about the deceased and Pakistan instead of going on and on about Nawaz Sharif this and that. Stop this political nonsense and getting brownie points for what ever party you support. Bloody people have been killed and some people are just worried about their political agendas.

It is the concern for the people that is bringing out the criticism for the freaking Prime Minister of the country, who happens to be Nawaz Sharif at this point in time. Even if the PM was IK I would be criticizing him for this security lapse. There is no political point scoring going on here.


Why is it that the sitting PM is quick to take credit for the improved security situation in the country but once an attack happens his apologists come out in full force saying "oh we are the slaves of the khaki we have no authority". What an easy cop out. Bloody thieves, all of them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You do know that my 16 year old cousin was killed in the Peshawar attack? This is not an issue I like to play politics on and all I'm concerned with is that those responsible be held accountable and the blame not be shifted to the wrong people because it's convenient for someone's political agenda to blame them. It's so ridiculous to suggest that Nawaz is one of "my favorites", as you put it, considering my views on the man are hardly a secret but it seems to have become a trend here to label anyone open to the idea of Nawaz not being the only one with crimes to answer for a Nawaz suppoerter. Nawaz should be held accountable for his financial malfeasance because that is a crime he committed using the powers of his office. Similarly, counterterrorism is something the army itself took over, it wasn't burdened with the responsibility against its wishes, and it has a track record of interfering with government policies concerning terrorism so why is it so offensive to so many when I ask that they be held accountable for any failures on that front, similar to how Nawaz should be held accountable for his failure to perform his duties as PM and using his powers for personal gain. It smacks of hypocrisy when those calling for accountability for one attack you calling for accountability for all.

The army is supposed to be answerable to the govt, regardless of whether they take over counter-terrorism or not. If they aren't, then the govt is a sham and worthless as far as safety of it's citizens is concerned. You may as well have Martial Law as then at least there wouldn't be any ambiguity about where the accountability lies.

 

[Syed1]

Sana shifts blame on protesters

LAHORE: Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah says the important buildings on The Mall were provided security in the wake of recent threat alert but he blames the protest demonstration for the tragedy.

“Had there been no protest demonstration, this incident would not have occurred,” Sanaullah told a private TV channel on Monday.

On receiving threat alert, he said the security of important buildings on The Mall like Governor House, Punjab Assembly and Lahore High Court was beefed up. However, he said, the protest provided the opportunity to terrorist(s) to target it.

The National Counter Terrorism Authority had issued a threat alert on Feb 7, saying a terrorist group had planned an attack in Lahore. It had sought vigilance for all important buildings, hospitals and schools.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1314656/sana-shifts-blame-on-protesters




This waste of skin has the gall to come out in the media and blame the protesters for his own lapse. This is the reason why some people call for martial law because under democratic governments you get people like Rana Sanuallah ruling the roost. In any other country people like this filthy would be lined up and executed. This is why I don't shy away from abusing each and every Noora and for good reason.

 

[Syed1]

Noora supporters call PTI as Taliban Khan but shy away from ever raising a voice against Rana Sanauallah who has been in bed with these terrorist organizations since the dawn of time.


#JuwaabDo

 

[DW44]

The army is supposed to be answerable to the govt, regardless of whether they take over counter-terrorism or not. If they aren't, then the govt is a sham and worthless as far as safety of it's citizens is concerned. You may as well have Martial Law as then at least there wouldn't be any ambiguity about where the accountability lies.

Could be, should be, would be but it isn't. The army is not answerable to the government. Whether or not that's right is a different matter but it is what it is and the army is the one resisting any change to that so it would be nice if people only blamed others for what they're actually responsible for. No one's disputing that the government's a sham and we would very well have had martial law if, as someone pointed out, there was no Kerry Lugar bill and the flow of aid dollars that overwhelmingly go to the military wasn't threatened. Ultimately, the differences between martial law and this so called democracy are far fewer than the similarities considering that all things considered, it's the army not the government which is the highest authority in the land.

 

[DW44]

Noora supporters call PTI as Taliban Khan but shy away from ever raising a voice against Rana Sanauallah who has been in bed with these terrorist organizations since the dawn of time.


#JuwaabDo

Who? Name and shame.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Could be, should be, would be but it isn't. The army is not answerable to the government. Whether or not that's right is a different matter but it is what it is and the army is the one resisting any change to that so it would be nice if people only blamed others for what they're actually responsible for. No one's disputing that the government's a sham and we would very well have had martial law if, as someone pointed out, there was no Kerry Lugar bill and the flow of aid dollars that overwhelmingly go to the military wasn't threatened. Ultimately, the differences between martial law and this so called democracy are far fewer than the similarities considering that all things considered, it's the army not the government which is the highest authority in the land.

Well that's a shame, since it's effectively martial law then I guess no one is really answerable. Carry on as before.

 

[Gayle_Force]

Could be, should be, would be but it isn't. The army is not answerable to the government. Whether or not that's right is a different matter but it is what it is and the army is the one resisting any change to that so it would be nice if people only blamed others for what they're actually responsible for. No one's disputing that the government's a sham and we would very well have had martial law if, as someone pointed out, there was no Kerry Lugar bill and the flow of aid dollars that overwhelmingly go to the military wasn't threatened. Ultimately, the differences between martial law and this so called democracy are far fewer than the similarities considering that all things considered, it's the army not the government which is the highest authority in the land.

I think you were right earlier and this topic should be discussed on another thread. I personally am not completely disagreeing with what you are saying. However, If the army is indeed more powerful than the government than IMO that is the fault of the government not the army.

 

[DW44]

I think you were right earlier and this topic should be discussed on another thread. I personally am not completely disagreeing with what you are saying. However, If the army is indeed more powerful than the government than IMO that is the fault of the government not the army.

How so? This status quo has existed since decades before the government has. It was the same during Zardari's time and before that when NS and Benazir were playing musical chairs with the PM's office. Hell NS himself is a product of the army, as is Zardari in a way given his party's founder's links to the Ayub government. Pakistan has been ruled by the army for half of its existence and for longer stretches than virtually any democratic stretch so a system where the army reigns supreme over the government is not something that organically came to be, it was developed by successive military rulers and military chief's during civilian rule. Anyhow, if you wish to continue this exchange you can reply on the National Action Plan thread, it was bumped this morning so should be on the front page.

 

[Syed1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Intelligence agencies trace culprits of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LahoreBlast?src=hash">#LahoreBlast</a> resulting in to important apprehensions overnight including few Afghans: Army Chief</p>— Nadeem Malik (@nadeemmalik) <a href="https://twitter.com/nadeemmalik/status/831529577176584193">February 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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