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Athar Ali Khan predicts Bangladesh as one of the semi-finalists in ICC World Cup 2023

“I have already told you about Bangladesh. India will surely make it. Australia too has a very good team. These are the three teams I will pick, and then it could be either Pakistan or England.”

Athar Ali Khan - and he means it.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
He can’t be expected to say anything else can he?

I guess stranger things have happened.

For example there’s a guy who survived the atomic bombings of both Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Then there’s the guy that was stuck seven times by lightning.

So…..
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You read what Waqar said about Pakistan?

Et tu Waqar? Waqar Younis does not think Pakistan will make it to the final of ICC World Cup 2023!

Waqar when asked who will be the finalists. Whilst he may be realistic in his assessment, him being close to Pakistan and players saying he doesn't believe in Pakistan going to the final seems a little odd. Maybe he put on a neutrals hat for this but lets see what you guys think.
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MenInG said:
You read what Waqar said about Pakistan?

Et tu Waqar? Waqar Younis does not think Pakistan will make it to the final of ICC World Cup 2023!

Waqar when asked who will be the finalists. Whilst he may be realistic in his assessment, him being close to Pakistan and players saying he doesn't believe in Pakistan going to the final seems a little odd. Maybe he put on a neutrals hat for this but lets see what you guys think.
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Waqar is being balanced or realistic, call it what you will. Athar on the other hand….
 
Keeping faith on your team is good but you need to be realistic at the same time .

what are the achievements of Bangladesh in cricket from last few months?
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Keeping faith on your team is good but you need to be realistic at the same time .

what are the achievements of Bangladesh in cricket from last few months?
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So you think bangladesh cant make it to semis with their spin attack seriously bro?
 
apnapind said:
So you think bangladesh cant make it to semis with their spin attack seriously bro?
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look at their recent home series against New Zealand bro, they were hardly giving any compitition on their home soil where spinners get more support as compare to Indian pitches.

If their spin bowlers struggle on spin-friendly pitches, so it raises questions about their ability to deliver on flat phatta wickets of India.

Mark my words, in this World Cup matches will be won by batsmen rather than bowlers.
 
He is a clueless idiot, that's all I have to say. Was a decent player on his time but an absolute juvenile when it comes to commentary or analysis. BD have nobody at this front since former cricketers are either not educated enough or simply crooked greedy men who are busy in looting the country.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
look at their recent home series against New Zealand bro, they were hardly giving any compitition on their home soil where spinners get more support as compare to Indian pitches.

If their spin bowlers struggle on spin-friendly pitches, so it raises questions about their ability to deliver on flat phatta wickets of India.

Mark my words, in this World Cup matches will be won by batsmen rather than bowlers.
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ya fair enough if it is flat tracks ban will struggle what do u make of pak chances?
 
BD may win 2 games out of 9 games (Netherlands and Afghanistan). They may get one more win somehow.

So, 2-3 wins maximum (most likely).
 
Definitely some talent, but lack even basic mental toughness, although the tight victory over Ind will give them confidence
 
If Shaheen can’t get them out, no reason why Bangladesh can’t beat Pakistan.

But they won’t make it to the semis.
 
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I think they'll surprise one of South Africa or New Zealand, but then also end up losing to one of Afghanistan or Netherlands.
 
To finish top 4, Bangladesh would probably need 10 points to qualify.

Netherlands
Sri Lanka
Afghanistan
Pakistan
South Africa/New Zealand.

Out of the 9 teams, these 6 will be their best bet to qualifying for the Semi’s. Lose 2 out of these 6 games and they’re screwed. Personally, I think they’ll lose to Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and New Zealand. They’ll beat Pakistan, South Africa and Netherlands, leaving them with only 6 points. They won’t beat England, Australia and India even if they had DRS favouring them like in Mohali.
 
ali_ed2006 said:
I think they'll surprise one of South Africa or New Zealand, but then also end up losing to one of Afghanistan or Netherlands.
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BD have beaten South Africa in 2007 World Cup and also in 2019 World Cup. I think they can beat South Africa again if pitch is turning.

Bangladesh have never beaten New Zealand in a World Cup though.
 
Was anyone expecting this guy to say anything different? Surprised he stopped at semi finalist :ROFLMAO:

Not that Pakistan has a chance but anyway.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
look at their recent home series against New Zealand bro, they were hardly giving any compitition on their home soil where spinners get more support as compare to Indian pitches.

If their spin bowlers struggle on spin-friendly pitches, so it raises questions about their ability to deliver on flat phatta wickets of India.

Mark my words, in this World Cup matches will be won by batsmen rather than bowlers.
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BD had experimented the whole series so you can’t analyse them per that performance. Personally I believe they could be the dark horse of the tournament.
 
Bangladesh will do what Srilanka did in 1996 WC and surprise everyone. Remember SL were also 6th ranked ODI side going into that tournament. People who are laughing at Athar Ali now will have to eat their words.

Go Bangla

:shakib
 
After Athar's prediction, Pak, NZ, SA and SL are having team meetings and planning to give walkover to mighty BD.
 
Prediction is prediction... performance would decide the result not the prediction.
Let us see whether they can make it or not. You never know the future.
 
Yes that’s his opinion.

But LOL.! BD cricket is in shambles from top to bottom, it ain’t stable, there’s fundamental issues, there’s the corrupt board president who has done nothing but harm to BD cricket growth. And AAK THINKS BD can reach semis without Tamim Iqbal the best opener BD ever produced? Last 10-15 odi matches there’s many time they couldnt even bat full 50 overs.

It’s ok to dream and for all we know BD might shock the world and reach semis but as the only commie from BD. AAK needs to learn to tone it down and don’t put too much expectation on BD cricket team as currently there’s lot going on within the team.
 
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It's almost as unrealistic as thinking one of PAK/NZ/SA are favourites to win the World Cup . :inti. Let him support his team. Nothing wrong .
 
Bang 181/9 mans got a frog stuck up his throat can’t get a word out !!
 
Sri Lanka was such a left field choice in 1996. But they had rising and established stars like Aravinda, Jayasurya, Kalu, Gurusinha, Tilkarathne, Murali, Vaas, Mahanama, etc who were lead by very inspirational and resourceful leader Ranathunga. Few of them went on to become legends of the game. They had also won Asia cup and challenged others before in various tournaments. But BD has been pathetic in tournaments and has fading stars on their last legs lead by an egotistical leader who wouldn't think twice about raising tantrums and throwing his teammates under the bus to save his skin. No chance. They will probably win couple of matches, cry foul, may be do an upset and go back home patting on their backs.
 
SportsWarrior said:
Sri Lanka was such a left field choice in 1996. But they had rising and established stars like Aravinda, Jayasurya, Kalu, Gurusinha, Tilkarathne, Murali, Vaas, Mahanama, etc who were lead by very inspirational and resourceful leader Ranathunga. Few of them went on to become legends of the game. They had also won Asia cup and challenged others before in various tournaments. But BD has been pathetic in tournaments and has fading stars on their last legs lead by an egotistical leader who wouldn't think twice about raising tantrums and throwing his teammates under the bus to save his skin. No chance. They will probably win couple of matches, cry foul, may be do an upset and go back home patting on their backs.
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Bro what do u make of pak chances this world cup?
 
TheSultan said:
I think it’s ironic for Pakistani fans to laugh at Bangladesh fans believing they can make it to the semis.

Bangla have just as good a chance as Pakistan to make it.
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Pakistan is a much better team than BD and have a realistic chance of being in the Semis. Mostly two of England, Australia and India will cruise through to the semis and the other one will make it with NRR. Pak, SL, NZ, SA and BD will fight for the last spot with Afg and Ned being happy with few upsets. Pak has better chance of beating NZ, SL, SA and BD than BD beating Pak, SA, SL and NZ. BD will lose atleast two of of those four matches, with a good possibility of losing all of them. Pak will win atleast two with good possibility of winning three or even four of them.
 
Rajdeep said:
Bangladesh will do what Srilanka did in 1996 WC and surprise everyone. Remember SL were also 6th ranked ODI side going into that tournament. People who are laughing at Athar Ali now will have to eat their words.

Go Bangla

:shakib
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"Sri Lanka was such a left field choice in 1996. But they had rising and established stars like Aravinda, Jayasurya, Kalu, Gurusinha, Tilkarathne, Murali, Vaas, Mahanama, etc who were lead by very inspirational and resourceful leader Ranathunga. Few of them went on to become legends of the game. They had also won Asia cup and challenged others before in various tournaments. But BD has been pathetic in tournaments and has fading stars on their last legs lead by an egotistical leader who wouldn't think twice about raising tantrums and throwing his teammates under the bus to save his skin. No chance. They will probably win couple of matches, cry foul, may be do an upset and go back home patting on their backs."

copy past from above
 
BD to do well will need Liton Das to do well against top sides he hasn’t scorer well against any of the top 5 sides except one ton against India many years ago at asia cup final.

Shanto
Das
Mushfiq
Shakib
must fire with the bat!

They don’t have power hitter lower order finisher so need the top5 to score heavily!
 
apnapind said:
Bro what do u make of pak chances this world cup?
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"Pakistan is a much better team than BD and have a realistic chance of being in the Semis. Mostly two of England, Australia and India will cruise through to the semis and the other one will make it with NRR. Pak, SL, NZ, SA and BD will fight for the last spot with Afg and Ned being happy with few upsets. Pak has better chance of beating NZ, SL, SA and BD than BD beating Pak, SA, SL and NZ. BD will lose atleast two of of those four matches, with a good possibility of losing all of them. Pak will win atleast two with good possibility of winning three or even four of them"

Copy pasta from above

I honestly believe Pak has a realistic chance of getting into Semis. They are not outright favorites. England, Australia and India are favorites to win in that order. Pak will battle with NZ, SA and SL for the fourth spot. But Pak has some advantages that we are ignoring. Yes, Indian pitches for LOIs can be run fests, but they also help bowlers if they are willing to bend their backs. Especially under lights, ball will swing. Pak also has lots of bowling options, which will come in handy during middle overs. They may not be outright wicket takers, but they can restrict the batsman. Babar, Rizwan, Imam all will enjoy Indian pitches, they are true batting surfaces will reward good classical stroke players.

Areas of improvement would be obviously in strike rates and strike rotation. In 80s and 90s, pak used to produce lots of street-smart cricketers like Salim Malik, Javed Miandad, Ijaz, Inzi, etc, who were not only great stroke makers but were also excellent strike rotators. Most of the current players are poor strike rotators including to some extent Babar. If they don't work on it, they will just be outbatted. Irrespective of how good your bowling is, it is not easy to consistently defend 280/290 on Indian pitches. It is also easy to chase down 340 consistently with passive batting like Pak's top 5. Best of luck. Looking forward to India/Pak Semis and obviously India winning it :)
 
Just looked into their batsman records. There is not a single batsman with 40+ average in ODIs. Wow!!!
 
SportsWarrior said:
"Pakistan is a much better team than BD and have a realistic chance of being in the Semis. Mostly two of England, Australia and India will cruise through to the semis and the other one will make it with NRR. Pak, SL, NZ, SA and BD will fight for the last spot with Afg and Ned being happy with few upsets. Pak has better chance of beating NZ, SL, SA and BD than BD beating Pak, SA, SL and NZ. BD will lose atleast two of of those four matches, with a good possibility of losing all of them. Pak will win atleast two with good possibility of winning three or even four of them"

Copy pasta from above

I honestly believe Pak has a realistic chance of getting into Semis. They are not outright favorites. England, Australia and India are favorites to win in that order. Pak will battle with NZ, SA and SL for the fourth spot. But Pak has some advantages that we are ignoring. Yes, Indian pitches for LOIs can be run fests, but they also help bowlers if they are willing to bend their backs. Especially under lights, ball will swing. Pak also has lots of bowling options, which will come in handy during middle overs. They may not be outright wicket takers, but they can restrict the batsman. Babar, Rizwan, Imam all will enjoy Indian pitches, they are true batting surfaces will reward good classical stroke players.

Areas of improvement would be obviously in strike rates and strike rotation. In 80s and 90s, pak used to produce lots of street-smart cricketers like Salim Malik, Javed Miandad, Ijaz, Inzi, etc, who were not only great stroke makers but were also excellent strike rotators. Most of the current players are poor strike rotators including to some extent Babar. If they don't work on it, they will just be outbatted. Irrespective of how good your bowling is, it is not easy to consistently defend 280/290 on Indian pitches. It is also easy to chase down 340 consistently with passive batting like Pak's top 5. Best of luck. Looking forward to India/Pak Semis and obviously India winning it :)
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Ya true bro pak has a team to make semis after that its anybody game lets hope for the best thanks for giving a detailed information about pak team.
 
Rana said:
I firmly believe Bangladesh has a more balanced and suitable batting line up+approach to modern cricket than Pakistan do.
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Shame the balance side makes them lose against Pakistan more often than not against Pakistan.
 
SportsWarrior said:
Pakistan is a much better team than BD and have a realistic chance of being in the Semis. Mostly two of England, Australia and India will cruise through to the semis and the other one will make it with NRR. Pak, SL, NZ, SA and BD will fight for the last spot with Afg and Ned being happy with few upsets. Pak has better chance of beating NZ, SL, SA and BD than BD beating Pak, SA, SL and NZ. BD will lose atleast two of of those four matches, with a good possibility of losing all of them. Pak will win atleast two with good possibility of winning three or even four of them.
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I don’t think there’s many cricketing reasons. Pakistan have extreme pace in Rauf and Shaheen’s potential brilliance which is an advantage.

I personally think Bangladesh have more enterprising and brave batsmen than Pakistan, better spinners and pretty decent seam attack led my taskin

Any advantage Pakistan have over Bangladesh cancels out.

On more seamer / fast bowler friendly tracks Pakistan have an advantage, but in India I don’t think Pakistan have any significant advantage over Bangladesh. Bangla could potentially have a mental hurdle to overcome but that’s about it.

Personally I don’t think either make it to semis
 
TheSultan said:
I don’t think there’s many cricketing reasons. Pakistan have extreme pace in Rauf and Shaheen’s potential brilliance which is an advantage.

I personally think Bangladesh have more enterprising and brave batsmen than Pakistan, better spinners and pretty decent seam attack led my taskin

Any advantage Pakistan have over Bangladesh cancels out.

On more seamer / fast bowler friendly tracks Pakistan have an advantage, but in India I don’t think Pakistan have any significant advantage over Bangladesh. Bangla could potentially have a mental hurdle to overcome but that’s about it.

Personally I don’t think either make it to semis
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So you think pak wont make it to semis considering pak odi record in india which is great.
 
Roll forward to 19th November...

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We are so sorry Athar for making fun of you....
 
apnapind said:
So you think pak wont make it to semis considering pak odi record in india which is great.
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When was the last time this generation played in India - never. So previous record means nothing
 
they have more chance than us reaching the semis ..i am 100% they will finish above us
 
It is fine to have good hopes for your country but this is simply beyond logic. Realistically, Bangladesh would struggle to win more than a couple of matches in the whole tournament and likely to finish at number 8 or 9 spot on the table.
 
hassan918 said:
It is fine to have good hopes for your country but this is simply beyond logic. Realistically, Bangladesh would struggle to win more than a couple of matches in the whole tournament and likely to finish at number 8 or 9 spot on the table.
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I dont understand one thing how come sena countries can make it to semis and bangladesh with their potent spin attack cant knowing spin will be a huge factor winning a world cup in india.
 
apnapind said:
I dont understand one thing how come sena countries can make it to semis and bangladesh with their potent spin attack cant knowing spin will be a huge factor winning a world cup in india.
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In order to win a world cup you need atleast 7 or 8 match winners with different players stepping at different times. Bangladesh never had that many in a single team.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
In order to win a world cup you need atleast 7 or 8 match winners with different players stepping at different times. Bangladesh never had that many in a single team.
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So you dont see them making semis this is their best chance tbh.
 
If there ever was a world cup where any team could dream of a semifinal, it's this one. Not the Netherlands, certainly, but any of the other 9 are capable of reaching there if they catch a few lucky moments. I personally would love it if a team like Bangladesh wins it. The Bangladeshi fans have invested too much of their passion in the sports for them to not win it at some point. This might be their most talented ODI team ever, so I say why not
 
This team is barely crossing 250 in their last 10 innings and almost always got bowled out. And this guy here dreaming of a semi-final :ROFLMAO:

Also speaking of BD, I was watching the warm up match today, I saw a guy named Tamim but it's not the same Tamim we know. Where is Tamim Iqbal?
 
light said:
This team is barely crossing 250 in their last 10 innings and almost always got bowled out. And this guy here dreaming of a semi-final :ROFLMAO:

Also speaking of BD, I was watching the warm up match today, I saw a guy named Tamim but it's not the same Tamim we know. Where is Tamim Iqbal?
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Tamim Iqbal was plotted to be kicked out by some board officials and shakib .
 
He doesn't have any option. DeVilliars was termed an Indian stooge and what not, when he termed Bangladesh as a small team ( but who can achieve more). Bangladesh supporters are at a different level usually about their team
 
Wow, that’s a bold statement. Maybe he is just trying to boost the morale of his team, or maybe he is living in a fantasy world. Bangladesh has never reached the semi-finals of any ICC tournament, let alone the World Cup. They have a poor record against the top teams,
 
Was actually thinking about this the other day… I’m gonna support my brother here, and say Bangladesh is a sleeper pick. It’s a bold statement but cricket needs Bangladesh to lift the World Cup, after Pakistan.

They need certain things to go their way Vs the big teams, but these are basically home conditions for them.

If Pakistan get KOed, I will support Brothers of Bang.
 
You have to give it to Athar bhai for supporting Bangladesh wholeheartedly for over two decades, despite knowing deep down that they'll remain a minnow forever.
 
Nil Dhumrojal said:
Tamim Iqbal was plotted to be kicked out by some board officials and shakib .
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Why would they drop your most consistent opener? Injury or politics? Anything to do with him retiring and coming back I would assume
 
I dont think this is something to be laughed at, I actually think its a possibility, though a less probable one.

To be honest, back in ~2020, I actually thought that by 2023 WC, Bangladesh would have improved and been good enough to win the ODI World Cup!

But I dont think they will though, but I genuinely think a semi-final is a reachable target for them.

ODI is the best format for Bangladesh, they have a good team, but I barely watched any cricket over last 4 years. Liton Das looks class, their fast bowling unit looks great actually, Mehidy Hasan Miraz is a good handy all-rounder, who can open now!

And they have Shakib Al-Hasan. Over the last few years, a lot of people are sayign how Ben Stokes is a fighting player, played legendary innigns, which I have no problem with at all, but why are people forgetting about Shakib Al-Hasan? He too is a fighter, and played many clutch innings, with Bangladesh batting lineup that is.

And if. I remember correctly, they have got some great results in ODI since 2019, such as winning against New Zealand & Australia at home, winning vs South Africa away, recently winning against India.

I think Bangladesh is in a scenario like this : They can make the semi-finals, but would likely need to rely on some shock results to happen
 
BouncerGuy said:
Wow, that’s a bold statement. Maybe he is just trying to boost the morale of his team, or maybe he is living in a fantasy world. Bangladesh has never reached the semi-finals of any ICC tournament, let alone the World Cup. They have a poor record against the top teams,
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They did reach the semifinals of Champions Trophy once. But yes, given the instability of the recent past with Tamim not playing, it will be a bigger challenge. All those results that lead to Bangladesh being joint second with England in the ODI super league was under Tamim’s leadership too so it certainly is a big setback. 6 months ago I would have also confidently stated that Bangladesh stood a very good chance of reaching the Semis but let’s see what this new look side can do under Shakib. You never know!
 
shehwar said:
They did reach the semifinals of Champions Trophy once. But yes, given the instability of the recent past with Tamim not playing, it will be a bigger challenge. All those results that lead to Bangladesh being joint second with England in the ODI super league was under Tamim’s leadership too so it certainly is a big setback. 6 months ago I would have also confidently stated that Bangladesh stood a very good chance of reaching the Semis but let’s see what this new look side can do under Shakib. You never know!
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Bangladesh's side is very unstable. Shakib is a wonderful player himself but I guess he is a bit more aggressive then he actually needs to be. I hope that they do well but it seems very unlikely under these circumstances.
 
Field's certainly opened up.

Many mini playoffs in this format,; they could effectively England on Tuesday
 
Bangladesh have a decent team, I would have liked to think that they will push for the Semi Finals but lately in Asia cup (bar India game) and at home against the Kiwis they have been below par and hence I'm having my doubts.

They are a decent team though, nothing to be made fun of. Their pace attack and spin attack is pretty good and batting has got good experience.
 
Why are people making fun of him? Bangladesh have really balanced side this time. Only missing link is experience of Tamim Iqbal in the top order. Their middle order is stable, pace attack is stronger , good combo of youngsters and experience players.
 
Unbiased-Fan said:
Why are people making fun of him? Bangladesh have really balanced side this time. Only missing link is experience of Tamim Iqbal in the top order. Their middle order is stable, pace attack is stronger , good combo of youngsters and experience players.
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Right... they are a very strong team this time. Could be a dark horse if all players play to their potentials.
 
The man in action today...with some good company

Pretty much shut-up Nasser and Mike with constant talking.

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day but could Athar have a point here :ROFLMAO: ? Bangladesh looked great today
 
I predict they will beat one of the teams ranked above them in this tournament.

I just hope it's not Pakistan :)
 
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