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Attacks on minorities against my vision, Modi's vision supports minorities oppression: PM Imran Khan

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The major difference between the condemnable Nankana incident & the ongoing attacks across India on Muslims & other minorities is this: the former is against my vision & will find zero tolerance & protection from the govt incl police & judiciary;</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1213719619023884288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In contrast, Modi's RSS vision supports minorities oppression & the targeted attacks against Muslims are part of this agenda. RSS goons conducting public lynchings, Muslims being violated by mobs are all not only supported by Modi Govt but Indian police leads anti-Muslim attacks</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1213719622173769729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2020</a></blockquote>
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IMMY IS sounding really childish, I think Twitter is getting to his head a little. From having to delete a tweet which was fake to being on Twitter 24/7.

P.S. Imran when will the Arabs arrive to hunt those rare birds in Pakistan ? After all the hoopla you said about the previous government for allowing it...The more I see Imran the more I realise he has zero power to change anything meaningful.

INB4 Imranstas come at me with How dare you...
 
IMMY IS sounding really childish, I think Twitter is getting to his head a little. From having to delete a tweet which was fake to being on Twitter 24/7.

P.S. Imran when will the Arabs arrive to hunt those extinct birds in Pakistan ? After all the hoopla you said about the previous government for allowing it...The more I see Imran the more I realise he has zero power to change anything meaningful.

INB4 Imranstas come at me with How dare you...

How hard is it to understand that he's not actually saying anything and that it's his manager?
 
Tbh the tweets do make a fair point.

Pakistan as whole maybe extremist perhaps but Imran khan in his own capacity has been very good for minorities whether it be ordering to end this gurdwara standoff or not bowing to the mullahs after Aasia court decision

On the other hand, modi and Amit shah time and again blow dog whistles against one particular minority
 
Tbh the tweets do make a fair point.

Pakistan as whole maybe extremist perhaps but Imran khan in his own capacity has been very good for minorities whether it be ordering to end this gurdwara standoff or not bowing to the mullahs after Aasia court decision

On the other hand, modi and Amit shah time and again blow dog whistles against one particular minority

He could have gained credibility in the eyes of the rest of the world as a speaker especially for Muslims had he decided to not to put a blind eye in case of China. The interview with AL Jazeera is what reflected everything that Mamoon states about him. And IK himself validated those.
 
Tbh the tweets do make a fair point.

Pakistan as whole maybe extremist perhaps but Imran khan in his own capacity has been very good for minorities whether it be ordering to end this gurdwara standoff or not bowing to the mullahs after Aasia court decision

On the other hand, modi and Amit shah time and again blow dog whistles against one particular minority

Imran Khan till now has been better for Pak minorities, vis a vis Modi for Indians, I think it's a fair assessment.

However the Indian society even with Modi is a far more tolerant society than Pak even with IK.
 
Imran Khan till now has been better for Pak minorities, vis a vis Modi for Indians, I think it's a fair assessment.

However the Indian society even with Modi is a far more tolerant society than Pak even with IK.

If you read my post I do allow for your last sentence. My whole point was different
 
He could have gained credibility in the eyes of the rest of the world as a speaker especially for Muslims had he decided to not to put a blind eye in case of China. The interview with AL Jazeera is what reflected everything that Mamoon states about him. And IK himself validated those.


I don’t know what Mamoon exactly said because he criticizes even the type of shoes Imran Khan wears and says the soles are too thick. So I’m always unsure about taking him seriously on this matter.

However that being said, Imran khan has obviously been lacking in condemning the Chinese Uighur treatment and we know that the strength of China and Pakistan’s dependence on them is the reason.

However, that is besides the point here. He is talking about his attitude towards minorities. And he has all the right to comment on Kashmir since it is a disputed issue internationally. Commenting on Kashmir is not commenting on India per se. Finally in recent weeks through the bill, the Indian government itself has brought Pakistan into the discussion and keeps mentioning it everyday.
 
We need to get our own house in order before lecturing others. Those inciting violence in Nankana Sahab should be arrested and investigated.
 
Tbh the tweets do make a fair point.

Pakistan as whole maybe extremist perhaps but Imran khan in his own capacity has been very good for minorities whether it be ordering to end this gurdwara standoff or not bowing to the mullahs after Aasia court decision

On the other hand, modi and Amit shah time and again blow dog whistles against one particular minority

I don’t agree to this at all. Pakistan has one of the worse treatment of minorities aka Ahemdies by constitution like Nazi Germany was against Jews, Constitution itself is discriminatory and violate freedom of religion in letter and spirit. Same is the case with Blasphemy law, only 6 countries in the world has capital punishment for Blasphemy, Pakistan is one of them and no politician dare to challenge that, we are way more extremist than India 🤬🤬🤬

IK was lobbying strongly for Blasphemy laws around Muslim world and in UN 😡😡😡
 
I don’t agree to this at all. Pakistan has one of the worse treatment of minorities aka Ahemdies by constitution like Nazi Germany was against Jews, Constitution itself is discriminatory and violate freedom of religion in letter and spirit. Same is the case with Blasphemy law, only 6 countries in the world has capital punishment for Blasphemy, Pakistan is one of them and no politician dare to challenge that, we are way more extremist than India 🤬🤬🤬

IK was lobbying strongly for Blasphemy laws around Muslim world and in UN 😡😡😡

Omg why do people struggle to read and understand here.

Nowhere have I claimed remotely that Pakistani Society is less extreme than Indian society
 
Modi pretended to be secular and change his image, but couldn't hide what he thinks of muslims. Imran makes the right rhetoric, and appears better than modi ( hardly a compliment) but doubt he is really secular. Just another politician.
 
:))) First gets caught red handed posting a fake video. Then tries to somehow bring in India for no reason in an issue related to his own country.

This man truly has no shame.
 
And he has so much concern for Muslims in India. But he'll never utter a word against China regarding their treatment of Muslims. There's a big reason why he and his country doesn't have a shred of credibility, and why the western countries don't blink an eye for his crocodile tears.
 
And he has so much concern for Muslims in India. But he'll never utter a word against China regarding their treatment of Muslims. There's a big reason why he and his country doesn't have a shred of credibility, and why the western countries don't blink an eye for his crocodile tears.

What about those who are actively supporting, electing and promoting killing of Muslims because they were transporting a cow.


Indians should be the last, matter of fact, are no one to lecture anyone else when they continue to elect religiously hate driven bigots.
 
:))) First gets caught red handed posting a fake video. Then tries to somehow bring in India for no reason in an issue related to his own country.

This man truly has no shame.

He does, he deleted the video.

On other hand, you do not have any shame because you are promoting a Hindu bigot, a group that promote racist and bigoted ideology.
 
What about those who are actively supporting, electing and promoting killing of Muslims because they were transporting a cow.


Indians should be the last, matter of fact, are no one to lecture anyone else when they continue to elect religiously hate driven bigots.

They sure as hell can lecture when your PM doesn't have the cajones to utter a word against his masters and yet shamelessly keeps speaking about the treatment of Muslims in India.
 
They sure as hell can lecture when your PM doesn't have the cajones to utter a word against his masters and yet shamelessly keeps speaking about the treatment of Muslims in India.

LOL

That is okay, it is China.

You have elected a leader, who is known to have hatred for Muslims.

So for you to come out criticizing a leader of different country while electing a racist and bigot says lot about you.

Think before you try to criticize.

LOL, this is just amazingly sad. lol
 
He could have gained credibility in the eyes of the rest of the world as a speaker especially for Muslims had he decided to not to put a blind eye in case of China. The interview with AL Jazeera is what reflected everything that Mamoon states about him. And IK himself validated those.

Indians, or Pakistani cheerleaders for India can't really understand how the rest of the world views Modi or Imran Khan. I can tell you that how Imran presents his argument is actually how it is portrayed here in the UK. I could post an article a day from reputable UK news sites which convey Modi as a Hindu extremist. Imran on the other hand, is seen as a progressive leader of a backward country.

Now play your tabla and let the cheerleaders dance.
 
LOL

That is okay, it is China.

You have elected a leader, who is known to have hatred for Muslims.

So for you to come out criticizing a leader of different country while electing a racist and bigot says lot about you.

Think before you try to criticize.

LOL, this is just amazingly sad. lol

However bad our PM might be, he still hasn't murdered 3 million people while raping 90,000 women from his own country like your country did to East Pakistan.

Recall your history before lecturing others.
 
However bad our PM might be, he still hasn't murdered 3 million people while raping 90,000 women from his own country like your country did to East Pakistan.

Recall your history before lecturing others.

OH crap, you went back in history after you got your lungi caught?

Damn, what would a person do when they brought back history to support and justify electing a racist and bigot leader. lol

You and I were not alive, I had no role in that conflict, well most of us on this forum had no role, but you do have role electing a bigot and racist, who openly promote violence against minority just because they are Muslim. And remember Kashmiri being raped and killed, loll

Like, I have said, think before criticizing and stop digging a hole.

Amazingly sad. lol
 
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OH crap, you went back in history after you got your lungi caught?

Damn, what would a person do when they brought back history to support and justify electing a racist and bigot leader. lol

You and I were not alive, I had no role in playing, well most of us on this forum had no role, but you do have role electing a bigot and racist, who openly promote violence against minority just because they are Muslim.

Like, I have said, think before criticizing and stop digging a hole.

I brought in history to remind you that you have no right to lecture others when your country murdered 3 million people and raped 90,000 women from your own country which they considered inferior. And you have the nerve to speak about us?

You say that neither you and me were alive back then, by that logic how do you know I voted for the BJP, and yet you are ready to accuse me of bringing them into power. Learn to use your brains before posting.
 
Have people notice, most of the Indian who support RSS/BJP/Hindutva never try to counter an argument about Modi being racist and bigot against Muslims.

Always bring China.

Says a lot about them, it sends a clear message that they believer Modi is racist and bigot against Muslims but yet we continue to support him.

It is astonishing but again it is India of those Hindus who have hijacked Hinduism.
 
I brought in history to remind you that you have no right to lecture others when your country murdered 3 million people and raped 90,000 women from your own country which they considered inferior. And you have the nerve to speak about us?

You say that neither you and me were alive back then, by that logic how do you know I voted for the BJP, and yet you are ready to accuse me of bringing them into power. Learn to use your brains before posting.

You win this arguent, congrates, lol

I think you have digged a hole deep enough for yourself. lol
 
However bad our PM might be, he still hasn't murdered 3 million people while raping 90,000 women from his own country like your country did to East Pakistan.

Recall your history before lecturing others.

To be fair, Imran has publicly demanded a Pakistani apology towards the Bangladeshis for the atrocities in 1971 even though he had nothing to do with it. Whereas Modi is yet to give an explanation, let alone an apology on the Gujarat massacre in 2002.
 
To be fair, Imran has publicly demanded a Pakistani apology towards the Bangladeshis for the atrocities in 1971 even though he had nothing to do with it. Whereas Modi is yet to give an explanation, let alone an apology on the Gujarat massacre in 2002.

Waste of time.

These closet RSS/BJP/Hindutva supporters have only one argument to justify their support for RSS/BJP/Hindutva, which they know is wrong, by bringing in 1971.

Almost every supporter of RSS/BJP/Hindutva would bring in China and 1971 while happily electing/supporting those who promote violence and bigotry against Muslims and other minorities in India.
 
Waste of time.

These closet RSS/BJP/Hindutva supporters have only one argument to justify their support for RSS/BJP/Hindutva, which they know is wrong, by bringing in 1971.

Almost every supporter of RSS/BJP/Hindutva would bring in China and 1971 while happily electing/supporting those who promote violence and bigotry against Muslims and other minorities in India.

Plus what does IK have to do with the atrocities of 1971? They say it like he was the one doing all the killings in East Pakistan.

It's like accusing Modi for the 1984 Sikh massacre by Indira Gandhi's government.
 
Omg why do people struggle to read and understand here.

Nowhere have I claimed remotely that Pakistani Society is less extreme than Indian society

My point is there is no difference between IK and Modi, they both are pushing extremist agenda...How one is better than other ?? And neither one of them is in any position to talk about minorities 🙄🙄🙄
 
My point is there is no difference between IK and Modi, they both are pushing extremist agenda...How one is better than other ?? And neither one of them is in any position to talk about minorities &#55357;&#56900;&#55357;&#56900;&#55357;&#56900;

how, entertain us pretty please. lol
 
Can any BJP supporters explain to me what exactly the party's views are about minorities and how they themselves feel about that?

Thanks.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The main culprit in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NankanaSahib?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NankanaSahib</a> incident Imran has been arrested<br><br>FIR # 6/2020 u/s 295A/290/291/341/506/148/ 149, 6 sound system /7ATA has been registered at Nanakan Police Station <a href="https://t.co/v1LYzO7ACI">pic.twitter.com/v1LYzO7ACI</a></p>— Azhar (@MashwaniAzhar) <a href="https://twitter.com/MashwaniAzhar/status/1213889349433151488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The mob is leaving in style, courtesy <a href="https://twitter.com/DelhiPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DelhiPolice</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JNU?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JNU</a> administration.<br>Can't believe this sight<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StandWithJNU?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StandWithJNU</a> <a href="https://t.co/ibXPZE1ntP">pic.twitter.com/ibXPZE1ntP</a></p>— Rajesh Mahapatra (@rajeshmahapatra) <a href="https://twitter.com/rajeshmahapatra/status/1213873363564630016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Imran Khan till now has been better for Pak minorities, vis a vis Modi for Indians, I think it's a fair assessment.

However the Indian society even with Modi is a far more tolerant society than Pak even with IK.

Hahaha, India and tolerant don't belong in the same sentence. Indians were jumping up and down at the Christchurch massacre last year, but that is to be expected after what happened in Gujarat.
 
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Pak does not treat it's minorities well enough. Now India has entered the competition as well trying to out do us at this as well:imad
 
Imran Khan till now has been better for Pak minorities, vis a vis Modi for Indians, I think it's a fair assessment.

However the Indian society even with Modi is a far more tolerant society than Pak even with IK.

Or maybe that's what you have been MADE to believe all these years?? Indians have extremely twisted view when it comes to Pakistan and it has been done by design. I have had several discussions with Indians overseas and most are good friends but one thing always common is their extremely negative perception. No doubt Indians are more educated in general, less religious and they adopt foreign cultures/traditions much better (integrate well) but when it comes to Muslims and Pakistanis, their delusions is next level (this is my 23 years experience living with Indians).

I mean think about it, Pakistani elections were about "Who is better at improving relations with India (Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif and Bilawal all talked positively about India and favoured friendly relations). Indian elections on the other hand were about "Isolating Pakistan and teaching Pakistan a lesson". This tells you a lot about "SOCIETY" i guess???
 
Man he is obsessed with modi. He should see a shrink

He is obessed with Modi like Modi is obessed with blackmailing and creating problems for Pakistan. He is confronting Modi head on and its about time Indians see him for what he truly is.
 
Man he is obsessed with modi. He should see a shrink

Obsession is when Modi chants Pakistan Pakistan like a parrot while addressing domestic issues relating to citizenship and NRC. Your media shamelessly made huge issue out of an incident in Pakistan which wasn't even 0.1% serious as compared to what is happening in India against minorities and you still think Pakistan should keep quiet. Even when our relations are worst ever, Imran Khan still targets RSS mentality and Modi NOT India unlike Indians who even don't hesitate to call your fellow Indians as Pakistanis :facepalm:
 
100% wrong. PM Modi’s vision is “Nirasha se mukt Asha se yukt “. PM Modi doesn’t even need to have a vision. He takes action and good things happen on their own.
 
I sort of believe Imran's intent wrt minorities in his country. But his jingoism and focus on Indian Muslims is consistently disappointing. Since the CAA protests began, the fact is majority of people attacked and injured are non-Muslim Indians fighting the government. Not sure how he can keep turning the BJP's goondaism into an Indian Muslim issue.
 
And what is this childish 'look at Modi compared to me' nonsense he keeps singing. Is that your standard?

The more it goes, the more likely Mamoon's opinions on him seem justified.
 
Just stop focusing on India all the time.

I'm tired of hearing/reading about India, Sharifs, and Zardaris.

Move on and focus on Pakistan. Most people who are struggling in Pakistan don't care about Sharifs and India, they want things in Pakistan to improve that will make their lives better.
 
Just stop focusing on India all the time.

I'm tired of hearing/reading about India, Sharifs, and Zardaris.

Move on and focus on Pakistan. Most people who are struggling in Pakistan don't care about Sharifs and India, they want things in Pakistan to improve that will make their lives better.

Actually 90% of his tweets are about ehsaas program, improving economy or other social issues. It's not his fault that you are only focusing on the remaining 10% of the tweets.
 
Actually 90% of his tweets are about ehsaas program, improving economy or other social issues. It's not his fault that you are only focusing on the remaining 10% of the tweets.

Great, 90% of his tweets are about improving Pakistan. Hoping this means that the majority of unhappy people with Imran Khan that I met in Pakistan this past summer (99% of them), at least some of them will now be satisfied.
 
Great, 90% of his tweets are about improving Pakistan. Hoping this means that the majority of unhappy people with Imran Khan that I met in Pakistan this past summer (99% of them), at least some of them will now be satisfied.

Did you go to Lahore?
 
No. I only went to Rawalpindi, Islamabad, and Azad Kashmir.

Well people can express their displeasure next time the elections roll around in 2023. That's how democracy works.
 
Obsession is when Modi chants Pakistan Pakistan like a parrot while addressing domestic issues relating to citizenship and NRC. Your media shamelessly made huge issue out of an incident in Pakistan which wasn't even 0.1% serious as compared to what is happening in India against minorities and you still think Pakistan should keep quiet. Even when our relations are worst ever, Imran Khan still targets RSS mentality and Modi NOT India unlike Indians who even don't hesitate to call your fellow Indians as Pakistanis :facepalm:

That's not obsession, that's strategy to create an "Evil" among the eyes of public to divert attention from issues such as poverty, unemployment, development, population, corruption, black money etc etc and gain public support.
 
Modi is not better than Imran by any stretch of imagination but didn't Imran betray Ahmedis calling them non muslims which is a perfectly valid PERSONAL viewpoint from a religious standpoint but a dangerous viewpoint from a nation's standpoint?
 
Modi is not better than Imran by any stretch of imagination but didn't Imran betray Ahmedis calling them non muslims which is a perfectly valid PERSONAL viewpoint from a religious standpoint but a dangerous viewpoint from a nation's standpoint?

Ahmedis are considered non Muslims constitutionally. In fact if he says he sees them as Muslims he’s betraying the constitution messed up as it sounds
 
Ahmedis are considered non Muslims constitutionally. In fact if he says he sees them as Muslims he’s betraying the constitution messed up as it sounds

True.

But tbf, Pakistan constitution also has blasphemy laws but Imran wont be vocal about hanging someone for it.

Best way is to sidestep these issues and work towards changing constitution when the time is right (which i am afraid wont happen anytime soon).

By openly claiming they are non muslims, Imran further marginalizes them in a society where their lives could be at danger.
 
India should focus on protecting minorities from 'saffron terror', not indulge in propaganda: FO

The Foreign Office (FO) on Monday called on India's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government to protect India's minorities from "saffron terror" while rejecting Indian propaganda regarding the treatment of minorities in Pakistan.

In a sternly worded statement, the FO said: "The RSS [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh]-inspired BJP government has absolutely no credentials even to pretend that it is a protector of minorities.

"Those who are responsible for the desecration and demolition of the Babri mosque, massive killings of thousands of Muslims in Gujarat, frequent incidents of mob lynching, and repeated hate crimes against minorities, simply have no feet to stand on.

"Rather than feigning any dishonest concern for minorities elsewhere, the BJP government would do better by focusing on the ongoing human tragedy at home and protecting India’s minorities from 'saffron terror'," the statement read.

The FO rejected Indian propaganda regarding the treatment of minorities in Pakistan. They said the BJP government was using incidents of alleged persecution of minorities in Pakistan to divert attention from the situation in occupied Kashmir and discrimination against minorities in India.

"The BJP government's mischievous portrayal of isolated law and order incidents in Peshawar and Nankana Sahib as alleged 'persecution' of minorities is part of its smear campaign against Pakistan and a desperate attempt to divert attention from the ongoing state terrorism in Indian Occupied Jammu & Kashmir (IOJ&K) and systematic discrimination against minorities in India.

"Pakistan completely rejects these fabrications, which will in no way shield the BJP government from opprobrium by the international community on its illegal actions in IOJ&K and the adverse fallout of the discriminatory Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) and National Register of Citizens (NRC)."

In the statement, the FO said Pakistan "attaches the highest respect and sanctity" to places of worship including those belonging to Sikhism.

"We categorically reject Indian allegations regarding any 'attack' and 'desecration' at the holy Gurdwara Nankana Sahib.

"These blatant lies are yet another illustration of the quintessential RSS-BJP propaganda drive, which will fail."

The FO said the Sikh community around the globe is aware of the importance that Prime Minister Imran Khan's government attaches to minorities and their places of worship, adding that the November 9, 2019, opening of the Kartarpur Corridor was a "clear manifestation" of the premier's vision of this.

"Indian attempts to politicise the tragic killing of a Pakistani Sikh youth are also mischievous and reprehensible," the FO said. They said a case had immediately been registered as the crime was reported and a high-powered committee was constituted to investigate the matter.

"The law will take its course and those responsible will be brought to justice."
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Rather than accepting the failures and working to improve the conditions, both side are comparing themselves to the other to prove which one is less "worse".

It's a joke really.
 
Rather than accepting the failures and working to improve the conditions, both side are comparing themselves to the other to prove which one is less "worse".

It's a joke really.

How do you know they are not working on improving the conditions? Or just wanted to make a cool statement?
 
I brought in history to remind you that you have no right to lecture others when your country murdered 3 million people and raped 90,000 women from your own country which they considered inferior. And you have the nerve to speak about us?

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This is one of the more stupid arguments I’ve ever seen on PakPassion and that’s really saying something...
 
They sure as hell can lecture when your PM doesn't have the cajones to utter a word against his masters
On record IK has stated discussions with China regarding their treatment of Uighur Muslims is done in private - he has given the reasons as to why.
Stop with the distortion
 
On record IK has stated discussions with China regarding their treatment of Uighur Muslims is done in private - he has given the reasons as to why.
Stop with the distortion

In his interview with AL jazeera, he denied of having any talks. Whom should I believe?
 
In his interview with AL jazeera, he denied of having any talks. Whom should I believe?

In another interview he said we are talking privately on this matter.

Anyways the point is there’s a difference between Indian Muslims and other Muslims for Pakistanis. With Indian Muslims there are cultural links so obviously people will care more. Pretty basic common sense I would think.
 
In another interview he said we are talking privately on this matter.

Anyways the point is there’s a difference between Indian Muslims and other Muslims for Pakistanis. With Indian Muslims there are cultural links so obviously people will care more. Pretty basic common sense I would think.

Can you give me a link to that interview where he stated that he was talking privately?
 
Can you give me a link to that interview where he stated that he was talking privately?

Let me share when I’m on laptop later.

I think it was either TRT or Canada one

But my point is that that’s just a slightly better answer. The point is he or Pakistan can’t do much in reality due to many reasons outlined
 
Let me share when I’m on laptop later.

I think it was either TRT or Canada one

But my point is that that’s just a slightly better answer. The point is he or Pakistan can’t do much in reality due to many reasons outlined

I quoted that post because the pper stated it's on record. While I did watch an interview that was totally contradictory to what he stated.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An extremist ideology RSS has taken over a nuclear-armed country of over a billion people. It is an ideology based on racial superiority & hatred of Muslims & all minorities. Whenever this genie has come out of the bottle, it has always led to bloodshed. <a href="https://t.co/GKrGZSabiE">https://t.co/GKrGZSabiE</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1215922870343303168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2020</a></blockquote>
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These attacks are against their own people, their own citizens, against people some of whom who have lived their whole life in India, against people where many generations have lived in India.

Crazy, that this is happening.
 
No one takes Imran seriously, but Indians can no longer shoot the messenger. Modi has reached a point where he has started to genuinely hurt India’s global image and credibility.
 
No one takes Imran seriously, but Indians can no longer shoot the messenger. Modi has reached a point where he has started to genuinely hurt India’s global image and credibility.

The nut job will win an election even now due to no real alternative leader.

Sickening lol.

But good to see him get exposed.

Development my a**.
 
Not long ago India spearheaded a campaign against Pak, calling Pak a rogue country whose Nuclear weapons are about to fall to extremists' hands.

India is being given a dose of its own medicine!
 
Uttar Pradesh: Yogi govt stops Qawwali during performance, saying it “cannot be played here”

Renowned Sufi-Kathak dance form creator, Manjari Chaturvedi, was allegedly forced to terminate her ‘qawwali’ act during her performance at a UP government event in the state capital, Lucknow

First time in the history of Uttar Pradesh ‘Qawwali’ has been categorized as anti-Hindu music that can hurt sentiments of the community of the particular religion.

Renowned Sufi-Kathak dance form creator, Manjari Chaturvedi, was allegedly forced to terminate her 'qawwali' act during her performance at a UP government event in the state capital, Lucknow.

She was invited by the Uttar Pradesh government itself to perform at the event but while she was performing, the 'qawwali' was stopped and an announcement for the next act was made by the organisers.

She said it was the first time that her act was stopped for being a 'qawwali', adding, "I thought it was a technical glitch but then the next act was announced. It was clear that this was not an error. When I enquired, I was told 'qawwali nahi chalegi yahan' (qawaali cannot happen here)," the danseuse told News18.

"I have performed across the world. I am shocked that this happened to me in Lucknow, my hometown," Chaturvedi said.

On raising the question on the alleged case by Chaturvedi, the state government denied it by calling it ‘rubbish’ and said that there was 'some issue' between the organisers and the performer, News18 reported.

A government official was quoted by News18 as saying that, "Chaturvedi was done with two performances and third was underway. Since the programme was running late and there was a Braj performance that was yet to happen, we were concerned that the CM may arrive before the show ends. We wanted all performers to get space. But there was possibly some issue with communication between both parties. The dancer's act was stopped and space was made for the next event".

“And the danseuse's performance was interrupted because of "organisational compulsions and not due to any religious or linguistic basis" ”, the official added.

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com...g-performance-saying-it-cannot-be-played-here
 
Can people play Bhajan in Pakistan? Just a question.

On topic, I think everyone knows how bigoted the BJP govt is and its funny how Indian Muslims feel as if Pakistan is a warzone.
 
Can people play Bhajan in Pakistan? Just a question.

On topic, I think everyone knows how bigoted the BJP govt is and its funny how Indian Muslims feel as if Pakistan is a warzone.

I thought you said you were a Pakistani.

Answer your question yourself then
 
I know the answer to that but I am asking you. If Hindus in Pakistan can do their events publicly or not?


people should use google sometimes instead of asking stupid question on open forum ....


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Another Hindu girl allegedly kidnapped, forcibly converted in Pakistan

Cases of forced conversions of young Hindu girls continue to surface from Pakistan's Sindh province, raising serious challenges for the Imran Khan government over its tall claims of security and safety of minorities in the country.

In a latest case of alleged forced conversion, Arok Kumari, resident of Jacobabad in Sindh province, went missing from her home on Wednesday. A video from her later revealed that she had converted to Islam and married a Muslim boy Ali Raza.

Arok Kumari's latest video showed her sitting with Ali Raza, in which she is seen saying that she married Ali Raza after converting to Islam with her free will.

"I have converted to Islam on my own free will and my Muslim name now is Aliza. I accepted Islam at Dargah Amrot Sharif and have married Raza there also," said Arok Kumari aka Aliza.

Kumari was seen in the video saying that her age is 18 and that she is seeking protection for herself and her husband.

She has also filed a case in the local court in Sukker district of the Sindh province, seeking protection from her Hindu parents and the community, who she says are a serious threat to her after her conversion.

"I am 18 years old. I want security from my parents and the Hindu community. Me and my husband Raza have filed a case seeking the same in the Sukker court also," Kumari said.

Before Kumari released the video, the Hindu community raised serious concerns over the ongoing cases of forced abduction and conversion, calling on the Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan and the Army Chief to take immediate notice and ensure safety of the community's families and their religious freedom.

The Hindu community also claimed that Nanki Kumari aka Mehak Kumari aka Arok Kumari aka Aliza is an underage girl as her age is 15 and that she is a class 9 student.

"Nanki Kumari who we are calling Mehak Kumari is 15 years old. Today has been the fourth day and the Hindu community in Jacobabad is worried. Every other day, we hear our girls being kidnapped and converted to Islam. They are trying to torture us with such actions," said a representative of the Hindu community.

"We are a minority community here and it has become almost impossible for us to live here anymore. I have seen a list which states that at least 50 young girls from our community have been subjected to kidnapping and forced conversion in the recent past," he said.

The minority representative also stated that Sindh province and its land, which is the true belonging of the Hindu community, has not been turned into a brutal place of intolerance against the community.

"Our Hindu community will stage protests against this abduction and forced conversion of Nanki Kumari and will do it across Pakistan," said the Hindu community representative.

"If such issues will keep happening, our Hindu community will be forced to leave our homes, our businesses and this country. I call on the chief justice, army chief and prime minister to take the matter of forced conversions of Hindu minor girls in the Parliament and assemblies and give us safety and security so that we can live our lives here with peace," he added.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto...forced-conversion-surfaces-1638257-2020-01-19
 
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Barack Obama’s Legacy Is Narendra Modi

The Indian prime minister’s global rehabilitation began before Trump, and it’s culminating in vicious anti-Muslim policies.

by Alexander Sammon


JANUARY 23, 2020 6:00 AM

In February, possibly in the midst of an ongoing impeachment trial, Donald Trump will travel to India to visit with Prime Minister Narendra Modi. The visit will mark Trump’s maiden trip to India as president, and is expected to consummate an agreement between the two leaders on civil aviation, independent of a long-pending trade deal. It’s the continuation of a dalliance that was commemorated in spectacular fashion with Modi’s September visit to Houston, where Trump walked the stage hand in hand with Modi before a crowd of some 50,000 at a packed NRG Stadium. That event was aptly titled “Howdy, Modi.”

For Trump, the allure of an ally like Modi is not hard to understand. He fits squarely into the class of strongmen heads of state of which Trump would like to consider himself a member. Modi is also an ardent nationalist, and, like Trump, has sought a plainly anti-Muslim program. As prime minister, his government has suspended Article 370 of the Indian constitution, which grants autonomy to Kashmir, India’s only Muslim-majority state. He flooded the Kashmir region with troops, while passing a bill that would expedite Indian citizenship for immigrants from three neighboring countries—so long as they are not Muslim. Kashmir has since spent over five months blanketed by a communications blockade, with the Indian government completely shutting down internet access. Only last week did the shutdown begin to ease for hospitals and banks, though social media will continue to be banned. Meanwhile, masked vigilantes have attacked liberal students and opponents of the Modi regime on college campuses throughout India. Those moves have expedited the rapid deterioration of the world’s largest democracy.

But Modi is hardly a monster of Trump’s own making. In fact, Modi was a long-standing international pariah, forbidden from even traveling to the United States for nearly a decade for his role in a rash of mob violence that resulted in the deaths of over 1,000 Muslims in 2002. But as Modi rose through the ranks politically, it was President Barack Obama who chose to rehabilitate his image on the world stage, inviting him to the White House as a personal guest, and bestowing upon him the political goodwill that’s allowed Modi to usher in this agenda with little international pushback. And while Obama’s flagship accomplishments as a statesman have been wiped away with the dissolution of the Iran deal and the end of the thaw with Cuba, the dire and lasting consequences of his elevation of Modi have quickly become among the most enduring parts of his presidential legacy.

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As a politician, Modi rose through the ranks of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, a Hindu nationalist paramilitary volunteer organization, becoming its chief propagandist. By 2001, he was elected chief minister of Gujarat, a state in the country’s west. During his first year in office, a train caught fire, resulting in the deaths of 58 Hindu pilgrims, which set off a wave of sectarian religious violence against the state’s Muslim population. According to conservative official estimates, the riots ended after three days with over 1,000 dead, and thousands more injured and missing. As the journalist Dexter Filkins recently wrote in The New Yorker, “rioters cut open the bellies of pregnant women and killed their babies; others gang-raped women and girls. In at least one instance, a Muslim boy was forced to drink kerosene and swallow a lighted match.”

One senior police officer gave a sworn statement to India’s Supreme Court alleging that Modi deliberately allowed anti-Muslim riots in the state, claiming he heard Modi say that Hindus should be allowed to vent their anger. Multiple investigations came and went without anything being pinned to him firmly, though it’s long been suspected that was the result of destruction of evidence. And even without a conviction, it’s widely understood that Modi assumed some culpability for the violence—even the most generous of interpretations would say he stood idly as these atrocities transpired.

In fact, Modi’s record on anti-Muslim violence was unequivocal enough that the United States government deemed him ineligible for an American diplomatic visa. In 2005, George W. Bush’s State Department invoked a little-known 1998 law, the International Religious Freedom Act, that makes foreign officials responsible for “severe violations of religious freedom” ineligible for visas, to deny Modi’s application. In doing so, he became the only person ever denied a visa to the U.S. under that provision. In addition, the B-1/B-2 visa that had previously been granted to him was also revoked under a section of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

He even tried again after a 2012 special investigation commissioned by the Indian Supreme Court acquitted him of all responsibility in the 2002 riots. But his petition was again denied, and the strength of that acquittal was not enough to change his standing in the eyes of the international community, where he maintained his status as persona non grata.

Then, in 2014, Modi was elected prime minister of India, and his visa status became a hurdle for ever-important trade negotiations. And while Modi’s record was too odious for the Bush administration, for Obama it was no problem. He simply looked the other way, congratulating him on his victory and inviting him to Washington as a White House guest right away, essentially conferring a visa on him by fiat. Soon after, he was invited to address a joint session of Congress, which he did in June 2016. Obama ultimately visited India twice to meet Prime Minister Modi, becoming the only American president to have visited India twice in just two years, including once as Modi’s chief guest at the Republic Day parade.

What did it take for Modi to finally clear his own record? Well, according to reports at the time, Modi assured Obama that he was committed to further liberalizing the economy. During his White House visit in 2014, Modi repeated his promise to “cut red tape, develop infrastructure and make it easier for companies to do business in India,” according to a BBC report at the time. A suggestive wink in the direction of pro-market policies was all it took to slough off that treacherous record on anti-Muslim violence. In exchange, Obama set to work rehabbing Modi as one of the signature projects of his second term.

The credibility afforded to Modi by the personal endorsement from Barack Obama has helped bring India’s democracy to the brink, and Trump’s praise suggests no course correction.

In fact, former Obama adviser Steve Rattner, himself a dubious character with an arguably criminal track record (for financial crimes) dusted off by Barack Obama to write the auto bailout, went on MSNBC to exalt Modi’s India in 2014 as a paragon of justice because it had less wealth inequality than the United States. Rattner continued his noble service once Obama was out of the White House—in 2019, just before the blockade of Kashmir began, he wrote a glowing review of Modi’s work for the New York Times Opinion page. Modi, Rattner maintained, had “fulfilled his economic promises,” with his old downside explained by his “suffering from a common problem of transformational leaders: unfulfilled lofty expectations.” (It should be mentioned that Rattner remains an MSNBC regular, as well as a Times contributor, and, oh yeah, one of presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg’s money managers.)

Of course, Obama doing PR work for junior varsity autocrats was hardly an aberrant move. In 2015, White House aides told Politico they weren’t worried that Obama’s embrace of Modi would create a situation similar to that with former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, whom the Obama administration warmly embraced, before eventually distancing itself, or Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whom Obama exalted as a model leader, before Erdogan set to work consolidating power, arresting journalists, cracking down on anti-government protesters, and launching a military incursion to ethnically cleanse the region of its Kurdish population. That’s to say nothing of the various think tanks and nonprofits that sang Modi’s praises, including the Brookings Institution and the Gates Foundation, which just months ago bestowed on him its humanitarian award.

But the devolution of Egypt and Turkey pales in comparison to what’s happening in India, which is the world’s largest democracy, and a troubling bellwether of the state of democratic governance broadly. The credibility afforded to Modi by the personal endorsement from Barack Obama has helped bring that democracy to the brink, and Trump’s praise suggests no course correction. Meanwhile, even Modi’s economic dogma has proved to be a chimera: The country currently faces its slowest growth in a decade. By whitewashing Modi’s record in the name of marginally pro-corporate policies, Obama set in motion a perilous situation that has put hundreds of millions of Indian Muslims at risk.

Even The Economist has balked at the willingness to tolerate authoritarian policies so long as they come with market reforms, recently calling Modi’s work “a form of ethnic cleansing by bureaucracy.” And damage done to the country’s democracy hasn’t even been buttressed by the economic heyday the Obama regime promised. “India’s economy is incompetently managed and doing badly.” And yet, Modi looks as entrenched as ever. He won re-election in May 2019 on the strength of a landslide victory, and despite his economic failures and growing popular outrage in India, he seems to have mastered the use of cultural grievances to legitimate his increasingly ethno-nationalist ambitions.

Meanwhile, the American business community continues to salivate at the opportunities the Modi regime has afforded them. As The Wall Street Journal reported last week, the pharmaceutical, agribusiness, and telecom industries all expect to reap significant financial windfalls from forthcoming negotiations. Modi is good for multinationals, at least, if bad for democracy.

https://prospect.org/world/barack-obamas-legacy-is-narendra-modi/
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today in India we are seeing the Nazi-inspired RSS ideology take over a nuclear-armed state of over a billion people. Whenever a racist ideology based on hatred takes over, it leads to bloodshed.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1232581942941495298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As I had predicted in my address to UN GA last yr, once the genie is out of the bottle the bloodshed will get worse. IOJK was the beginning. Now 200 million Muslims in India are being targeted. The world community must act now.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1232581944988311554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to warn our people that anyone in Pakistan targeting our non-Muslim citizens or their places of worship will be dealt with strictly. Our minorities are equal citizens of this country.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1232581947458805760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote>
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