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Australia’s David Warner promises ‘hatred’ and ‘war’ with England in Ashes

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Australia’s chief agitator David Warner has fired the opening shots in the Ashes war of words, revealing the hosts will be motivated by their “hatred” of England.

Warner, who infamously punched Joe Root during the 2013 Ashes series in England before informing the media that the tourists had “scared eyes” a few months later at the Gabba, has once again turned up the volume.

England fly out to Australia on 28 October for the five-match Test series which begins in Brisbane on 23 November and, after a buildup which has been overshadowed by a police investigation into Ben Stokes’ early-hours altercation in Bristol, Warner has somewhat characteristically opted for a front-foot approach.

“As soon as you step on that line it’s war,” Warner said on ABC Grandstand. “You try and get into a battle as quick as you can. I try and look in the opposition’s eyes and try and work out ‘how can I dislike this player, how can I get on top of him?’

“You have to delve and dig deep into yourself to actually get some hatred about them to actually get up when you’re out there. History is a big part in this and that is what carries us on to the ground.”

Warner’s comments during the first Test at the Gabba in 2013 were criticised as “horribly wrong” by England’s then team director, Andy Flower, when the Australian singled out Jonathan Trott’s dismissals as “poor and weak”. A few days later, the Warwickshire batsman returned home because of a stress-related illness.

Warner, however, insists he has no regrets regarding those inflammatory comments where he also said England had “scared eyes” during that Brisbane Test which Australia won by 381 runs.

“Four years ago, during that first Test, I made some statements in the media and at the time I thought it was a great thing to come out and speak what I said,” he added.

“I have no regrets about that and I think that could have played a little bit of a role in the back of their minds. At the moment I’m not going to put any vibes out there or get into a verbal stoush … but come day one when we walk out there, there will definitely be some words exchanged. I think the subtle approach these days is how it is and how it goes.”

Australia’s captain, Steve Smith, meanwhile, was drawn into the frenzied media debate surrounding Stokes.

The 26-year-old is suspended by the England and Wales Cricket Board while the police investigation continues. The ECB has not ruled out Stokes flying to Australia after the rest of the squad if the investigation is concluded in time.

Since his debut during the 2013-14 Ashes tour in Australia, Stokes has risen to become one of the most highly rated all-round cricketers in the world, scoring six Test centuries and claiming 95 wickets from 39 caps, as well as being the England team’s most dynamic fielder. With the investigation continuing, Smith was even asked whether Stokes should be banned from playing in the series.

“Whether he comes or not, that’s out of our control,” Smith told ABC Grandstand in his first public comments on Stokes’ situation.

“You always want to come up against the best and test your skills against the best. That’s what Test cricket is all about. There’s no doubt Ben Stokes is one of the best players around the world at the moment with the skills he brings to the game.”

Smith did not reference Warner’s 2013 punch at Root – during a late night incident in a Birmingham bar – but said he hoped no Australian players ever found themselves in a similar situation as England’s all-rounder.

“I certainly don’t condone that kind of behaviour,” he added. “Hopefully it never happens to one of our boys. Let’s hope we never cross paths with that.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...david-warner-hatred-war-england-ashes-cricket
 
Some unnecessary words from the Australian vice captain. Hope the series is only about cricket and none of the drama which Warner mentions.
 
Root and Bairstow are the only ones who can really do something special there. Cook has to really play out of his skin to perform Vs Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins.

Don't expect much from others.
 
I think you should try and understand that Oz has a different cricket culture & that when playing England, both teams are up for the verbal and raw aggression. No need to tiptoe around and play nice here.

Stokes or no, I think Oz will run away with it.
 
Australians always start this type of verbal non-sense before any series !!!!!!!

And other people seem to get offended on England's regard here.

Both Australia and England understand that this all macho posturing and talk and part of the theatre of the Ashes.
 
Shame he doesn't feel the same way about playing India...

I guess the dollar is mightier than the mouth, huh Warner!?
 
Shame he doesn't feel the same way about playing India...

I guess the dollar is mightier than the mouth, huh Warner!?

Exactly.

It's funny that a guy like Kohli went to the extent of saying that friendships with Australians is over being all melodramatic and stuff, when India did just as much if not more sledging against Australia this year starting with the Renshaw Toilet incident. India, it's fans and media have been nothing but extremely hostile to Australia throughout the year with a rock being thrown in their bus being the icing on the cake and yet you see these cowards like Smith and Warner praise India unconditionally like the gutless sell outs that they are.
 
Shame he doesn't feel the same way about playing India...

I guess the dollar is mightier than the mouth, huh Warner!?

Exactly.

It's funny that a guy like Kohli went to the extent of saying that friendships with Australians is over being all melodramatic and stuff, when India did just as much if not more sledging against Australia this year starting with the Renshaw Toilet incident. India, it's fans and media have been nothing but extremely hostile to Australia throughout the year with a rock being thrown in their bus being the icing on the cake and yet you see these cowards like Smith and Warner praise India unconditionally like the gutless sell outs that they are.

I'm not sure what your point is.
Its like the way you talk with someone you have been friends with since school and the way you talk with some coworker at work is completely different.

Warner and Smith know that the English will take these statements entirely within the intended spirit.

Anyone else bar New Zealand and maybe South Africa would not.
 
I'm not sure what your point is.
Its like the way you talk with someone you have been friends with since school and the way you talk with some coworker at work is completely different.

Warner and Smith know that the English will take these statements entirely within the intended spirit.

Anyone else bar New Zealand and maybe South Africa would not.

I'm just questioning the more mellowed down approach the Australians have shown this year in their matches against India both on and off the field, because to anyone who has followed Australian cricket over the years.. this is nothing but very uncharacteristic. Can you imagine Ponting and Clarke in their primes putting up long posts praising Indian fans on social media barely a day or two after their bus was smashed by the same group of "fans"? Or how Hayden went from calling India a "third world country" to now practically being a brand ambassador for Indian tourism spending half the year commentating in various leagues in India?

It's obvious that Indian money has put the Australian cricketers on a leash, extremely sad to see from a country I grew up admiring their in your face competitiveness. Nowadays, they come across more as a bunch of wussies while playing India tbh.
 
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I'm just questioning the more mellowed down approach the Australians have shown this year in their matches against India both on and off the field, because to anyone who has followed Australian cricket over the years.. this is nothing but very uncharacteristic. Can you imagine Ponting and Clarke in their primes putting up long posts praising Indian fans on social media barely a day or two after their bus was smashed by the same group of "fans"? Or how Hayden went from calling India a "third world country" to now practically being a brand ambassador for Indian tourism spending half the year commentating in various leagues in India?

It's obvious that Indian money has put the Australian cricketers on a leash, extremely sad to see from a country I grew up admiring their in your face competitiveness. Nowadays, they come across more as a bunch of wussies while playing India tbh.


Exactly. This current Aussie side is as weak mentally and far too nice for my liking. Then comes the obvious difference between how they talk about India and the Indian players compared to how the react to other sides around the world.
 
I'm not sure what your point is.
Its like the way you talk with someone you have been friends with since school and the way you talk with some coworker at work is completely different.

Warner and Smith know that the English will take these statements entirely within the intended spirit.

Anyone else bar New Zealand and maybe South Africa would not.


You are absolutely right, we unsophisticated and overly emotional indians can't take these type "statement" in right spirit. But childhood friend countries understand true meaning behind the banter.
 
You are absolutely right, we unsophisticated and overly emotional indians can't take these type "statement" in right spirit. But childhood friend countries understand true meaning behind the banter.

This sort of proves my point?

I wasn't implying anything at all about unsophisticated and overly emotional at all.

All I was saying is that Australia and England have a long and competitive but ultimately friendly history and stuff that is said by both sides fits with in the context of that.
 
This sort of proves my point?

I wasn't implying anything at all about unsophisticated and overly emotional at all.

All I was saying is that Australia and England have a long and competitive but ultimately friendly history and stuff that is said by both sides fits with in the context of that.


Yes, I proved your point.
 
Moeen would be peppered with short balls when he is batting.

In Aus?

Ali will be lucky to average under 60 with the ball.

This series is going to be called "Ali's Ashes" after Ali wins it for England.

Seriously though, the last match is in Sydney and the MCG also has a game, I believe. Ali can do some damage there.
 
All I was saying is that Australia and England have a long and competitive but ultimately friendly history and stuff that is said by both sides fits with in the context of that.

Yep. And long may it continue. English players say the intensity is far higher when playing in the Ashes.
 
All the best davy. We love u here in Hyderabad.

Its nothing abnormal in being nice to people who r nice to u.

For some posters its a war and they should be enemies for ever.

Please grow up guys.
 
Can't wait for him to destroy Moeen's lollipop bowling.

Hope Warner notches up centuries and increases his average but England win.
 
Good series for Aussies after we gave them a pasting. Much easier than facing roaring Tigers!
 
Always look forward for ashes. Great series with some mouth watering contests ahead.
 
Looking forward to the series for the intensity and the history - not optimistic about England's chances - I think we will win the Sydney Test and / or the Melbourne Test, however I think Australia will win the series with some thumping cricket and regain the Ashes.
 
David Warner is Australia’s Designated Hitter .... to stir up any stink before any Test Match Series !!!!!!!
 
Chal, isko be me tanda paani pilao gha!

Actually, if you look at his full statement, it doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as the quoted headline.
 
I'm just questioning the more mellowed down approach the Australians have shown this year in their matches against India both on and off the field, because to anyone who has followed Australian cricket over the years.. this is nothing but very uncharacteristic. Can you imagine Ponting and Clarke in their primes putting up long posts praising Indian fans on social media barely a day or two after their bus was smashed by the same group of "fans"? Or how Hayden went from calling India a "third world country" to now practically being a brand ambassador for Indian tourism spending half the year commentating in various leagues in India?

It's obvious that Indian money has put the Australian cricketers on a leash, extremely sad to see from a country I grew up admiring their in your face competitiveness. Nowadays, they come across more as a bunch of wussies while playing India tbh.

You always get what you pay for.
 
Former England Cricketer Marcus Trescothick Calls Warner's Statement Pathetic

Former England cricketer Marcus Trescothick has shot back, stating the English team will pay no attention to Warner’s remarks.

“I don’t think they will get that involved. To come out with those sort of comments is not needed,” Trescothick told BBC Sport.

“There’s always the hype that comes around before the Ashes, so I don’t think it’s something the players will be drawn into.

“I think it will just be a good distraction, hopefully, for Australia and they can get caught up in the war of words. I think it’s pathetic.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricke...e/news-story/2da2040948c3fb80236d4a907ef081ee
 
Warner is a destructive batsman but a big home track bully just like his england counterpart anderson('clouderson').Averages 55 plus home and 35 odd abroad.Already poor against spin,and with his big bat now banned .But nice to see competitiveness,though the word 'hatred' might be taking things too far.
 
Exactly.

It's funny that a guy like Kohli went to the extent of saying that friendships with Australians is over being all melodramatic and stuff, when India did just as much if not more sledging against Australia this year starting with the Renshaw Toilet incident. India, it's fans and media have been nothing but extremely hostile to Australia throughout the year with a rock being thrown in their bus being the icing on the cake and yet you see these cowards like Smith and Warner praise India unconditionally like the gutless sell outs that they are.
Smith & Warner knows more about India than you I guess they don't act accordingly to your agenda 😂😂
 
Ashes 2017 - Warner regretful over Ashes comments

Australia vice-captain David Warner has admitted he regrets his recent comments likening the upcoming Magellan Ashes series to war but maintains the hosts need to channel some "inward anger" towards England this summer.

Warner conceded on Sunday he may have overstepped the mark with his comments, but maintained his assertion that Australia need to play with "some inward anger" when taking on the old enemy.

"I probably regret some of the words I used during the week, but at the end of the day, you've got to try and have some inward anger," Warner said on Channel Nine's Sports Sunday.

"You've got to create a bit of that buzz out there."

Warner famously said England's players had "scared eyes" when facing up to the short-pitched pace barrage of Mitchell Johnson midway through the first Test of the 2013-14 series.

Asked on Sunday whether he expects a hostile Ashes series, Warner said, "I’d like to think so".

Warner has recently said he’s learned lessons from previous run-ins with the ICC, and with a crackdown on verbals broadcast over the stump mic – which coincidentally began with former captain Michael Clarke's infamous exchange with Jimmy Anderson at the Gabba four years ago – he believes a more refined approach is called for.

"The subtle approach these days is how it goes," he said this week. "Look at the Indian series we played (earlier this year), it can get under your skin quite quickly, and the heat gets to everyone."

It remains to be seen how the current England squad handle the express pace of Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins in Australian conditions, and Warner said recent net sessions had been an eye-opener.

"I can tell you now I'm very scared when it comes to the nets so hopefully they (England) are scared because it is challenging facing our guys," Warner said.
 
War and Hatred...seriously mate?


These two countries with their privileged players from privileged backgrounds don't know jack all about war and hatred when it comes to sporting rivalries.
 
OTT comments from Warner but the ashes will be fiercely contested. Warner seems pumped. England should be wary. If Warner gets going verbally and with the bat, it could be a long summer for the Poms.
 
Some unnecessary words from the Australian vice captain. Hope the series is only about cricket and none of the drama which Warner mentions.

If it takes some strong words from the players to increase viewership and save this dying format, so be it. More players need to join in to promote a series that has largely lost its relevance.
 
OTT comments from Warner but the ashes will be fiercely contested. Warner seems pumped. England should be wary. If Warner gets going verbally and with the bat, it could be a long summer for the Poms.

The "Poms" will get nowhere bring wary. They should get more aggressive.
 
If it takes some strong words from the players to increase viewership and save this dying format, so be it. More players need to join in to promote a series that has largely lost its relevance.

The Ashes will never die and never lose relevance to England and Australia Last as we were first.
 
This series is going to be called "Ali's Ashes" after Ali wins it for England.

Seriously though, the last match is in Sydney and the MCG also has a game, I believe. Ali can do some damage there.

Moeen Ali and Hashim Amla are fine cricketers (especially the latter who has sealed ATG status) but are rated excessively having picked a trend from your posts for quite some time. Could this inflation of these cricketers be because of your exuberant admiration for their appearance and religious lifestyles?
 
Not sure how hatred is meant to be a source of inspiration for excellent performances, even boxers would tell you the same; when they step in the ring, they go to war but need to remain calm throughout and control their emotions in order to perform really well.
 
Ashes 2017 - Stuart Broad laughs off Warner's 'war' talk

England paceman Stuart Broad is refusing to rise to Australia opener David Warner's declaration of "war" as Joe Root's men prepare to fly out to defend the Ashes.

The pugnacious Warner said earlier this month he would "dig deep to get some hatred" for the England team ahead of the series, adding: "As soon as you step on that line it's war."

Like Warner, Broad is familiar with the hostilities of the old rivalry but as England prepare to head Down Under, he is keeping calm.

"I don't have to hate them," he told the London Daily Telegraph. "It's a game of cricket, not war."

The Australian public, urged on by coach Darren Lehmann, heckled Broad throughout the 2013-14 series over his failure to walk for a clear nick in the previous series in England – during which Warner was the designated villain after throwing a pre-series punch at Root.

"Actually I loved that trip, I liked the pantomime villain stuff," said Broad.

"As a cricketer it was as close as you get to being a footballer playing away from home. (Lehmann) needed something to unite the public and media behind the Australian side and he chose me."

It was football that provided Broad's inspiration on that tour as he drew on another fierce rivalry – former Arsenal captain Patrick Vieira's animosity with Manchester United counterpart Roy Keane and manager Alex Ferguson.

"Because I knew (the hostility) was coming, I prepared for it," said Broad. "I read Alex Ferguson's book about how he'd once told Patrick Vieira, who'd had dog's abuse from the Old Trafford crowd, 'they wouldn't be abusing you if they didn't respect you'.

"Whether Aussies meant it that way, that's how I decided to take it; they were only doing it because they were scared of me."

Australia captain Steve Smith has targeted England's inexperienced batting line-up this time around, with Mark Stoneman, James Vince and Dawid Malan in line to feature in the top five while doubt surrounds the participation of allrounder Ben Stokes for disciplinary reasons.

But Broad said: "When you go to Australia you have to have a genuine belief in your team that you can win. And I have that. I believe we can win.

"The (Andrew) Strauss-led side that got to number one in 2011 was the most efficient, disciplined group I've ever played with, but this team now is the most exciting," he added.

"Moeen (Ali), Jonny (Bairstow), Stokesy: you don't know what will happen. But something will. True, we're not as consistent. But we can win games out of nowhere."
 
Entire game of cricket gained prominence because of 'Ashes'.

It is the national sport of England and Australia which is treated with pride and honor, despite low TRP's or buzz at times this game (cricket), format (test) & series (Ashes) will never die.

The following sporting events are the most prestigious ones conducted annually in Britain and will continue till UK/ England collapse :-

Wimbledon
All England badminton open
Ashes/ Lords test every summer
British open squash
Brit grand prix
Golf open
Cartier int polo
Masters snooker
FA cup
Grand national horse racing
 
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