Australia (177/5) defeat Pakistan (176/4) by five wickets to qualify for the ICC T20 World Cup Final

[zamana]

Pakistan should have played another specialist spinner.

 

[Napa]

The spinners were Pakistan's threat for wickets and containment. Shadab Khan was spectacular . Imad Wasim was effective. Pakistan bowled 8/19 overs by the spinners and 11/20 by the fast bowlers. Even though Hafeez bowled a howler as the first delivery, I think he could have been persisted with and Hasan Ali could have been limited. The Captain should have a mathematical and analytical disposition.

One must give credit to Wade and Stoinis. It was not poor bowling but spectacular batting. They were breathtakingly brilliant and played wonderfully contrived shots. I never expected such improvisation. It was upsetting that Pakistan lost but we were lucky to enjoy brilliant cricket from both sides. The batting from Rizwan was beautifully paced and powerful. Fakhar Zaman was amazing using the depth of the crease and hitting meteoric sixes. I was concerned that he would be out hit wicket but he used the bottom hand brutally. Amazing batting display from both sides. The bowling from Afridi and Shadab was special. The Australian bowling was not as good except for Zampa. In retrospect Pakistan should have played a specialist spinner!

Good analysis. I have seen these Aussie batters do this too many times, Hussey, Watson in a recent IPL final and so on. They are fearless and powerfully built.

Pakistan did well in the tournament, lots of positives.

 

[Vidwan Nath]

If Hassan Ali had catched it then would have been different.

If david warner was not given out Australia would have won with few overs to spare..

 

[Ashmal]

If david warner was not given out Australia would have won with few overs to spare..

Warner himself thought he was out....no reason to moan about it

 

[Smbhayi]

Its very difficult to control a wet ball bro

Nah nahnah, toss doesn't matter..

 

[Smbhayi]

Yeah...toss made Hassan drop the catch...Pak lost due to that crucial drop

Anyways...Pak fought hard till the very end even after losing the toss unlike some other teams who limped to 110 or got thrashed by 10 wickets

Even they take that catch target is still is very much gettable..

 

[Smbhayi]

Who's was the presenter, looks more dejected than Babar

He's the same guy who presented after India-Pak match, and he was very excited that day.. I think his name is Basit?

 

[Smbhayi]

hard luck...but Pakistan had a very good tournament...feel sorry for India though...they couldn't even make it to the semi finals, despite the IPL and all the hype.

No toss luck cost India, same as Pakistan yesterday lol

 

[Ashmal]

Indian bhaiyon I get that some of you are happy. Fair play given what some of our more lunatic fans do as well. I hold no Ill will towards Indians anymore in cricket or life....it was a process for me and lots of unlearning to do based on my upbringing.

But back on topic .. To those with the same copy paste "toss wins the match' related posts. Please understand no one is arguing that toss isn't a factor.

What we are trying to explain is that in your specific case of scoring 110 in one match and not taking wicket in the other .. shows no matter what pitch, what toss etc you would be losing. It was in ICT body language and approach. So unlike the fans hopefully team is not using this excuse and working on being better next year.

Till we meet next year.

This.

Toss is an advantage for sure but can't blame toss for your poor performance.

By scoring 110 or losing by 10 wickets.
India didn't even allow themselves a chance to compete.

Eng and Pakistan inspite of losing the toss fought till the end

 

[Smbhayi]

Was there dew?

Stop trying to use the toss as an excuse for every match just because India got owned by Pakistan.

Not only few issue, batting becomes easier 2nd innings.. In that venue only once team win batting first (ipl final) last 20 matches..

 

[Ashmal]

Even they take that catch target is still is very much gettable..

Yeah Oz may have still won...but with a new man coming 20 if 9 is not easy.

Still I don't think toss was a major factor in Eng/Pak losing....both lost due to some tactical errors and some poor execution under pressure at death.

Wade played some extraordinary shots...not easy to scoop 148kph yorkers....credit to him

 

[shah9425]

Disappointed big time

 

[Ahmed216]

Nah nahnah, toss doesn't matter..

Not when you score 111

 

[Napa]

Maxwell is the only real threat left.

Super analysis. Maxwell’s 7 runs from 10 balls put Australia over the top.

 

[Napa]

Batsman always knows if he has hit it. It just didnt show

Not really. Kohli mistakenly thought he was out and walked in the last odi wc game against Pakistan.

 

[Napa]

Toss should never have such a big say in any tournament.

The worst T20 side in top 8 Aus will play the final and probably win that as well since they have a mental stranglehold over NZ. What a shame.

As such T20 is such a fluke format, and on top of that you have toss playing such a big role.

Cricket deserved a Pak vs Eng final, 2 best sides in the world, instead we will see the 3rd best T20I side take on 8th side in a final, hope NZ clinches this since at least they respect the format.

You should not call Australia "worst T20 side in top 8" after the way they last pair batted.

 

[Napa]

He's the same guy who presented after India-Pak match, and he was very excited that day.. I think his name is Basit?

It is Bazid Khan. Same guy who said “Lekin kufr to toot gaya” after Pakistan beat India in the group game.

https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/kuf...pakistans-win-against-india-in-t20-world-cup/

 

[MenInG]

It is Bazid Khan. Same guy who said “Lekin kufr to toot gaya” after Pakistan beat India in the group game.

https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/kuf...pakistans-win-against-india-in-t20-world-cup/

Do you actually understand Urdu?

 

[AZulfi]

Australia proved once again that they are very hard to beat in KO games. I do not have the exact data but they probably win 75-80% of their KO games. Pakistan would have preferred to face South Africa or even England in the SF. Topping your group may not always be a blessing in world cups...but then at some stage, you would have had to play Australia.

176 was a good total to defend. Australia was 89/5 and then 115/5 after 15 overs. Adv. Pakistan. Australia then scored 62 runs in the next 4 overs. Wade did a Hussey (reminded me of the 2010 SF game when Saeed Ajmal suffered under pressure).

Australia have 6 or 7 quality batters and they bat deep. Both Pat Cummins and Starc are also capable of hitting boundaries and sixes. We have three (Rizwan, Babar and Fakhar). Asif Ali needs to do more against the big teams. Fakhar is a big match player. usually plays well in the KO games and has the ability and quality to hit even good bowlers for sixes.

Malik and Hafeez are better players of spin and they usu. struggle against quality pacers of Aus and RSA. They are minnow bashers.

Pacers undid all the good work of Rizwan, Fakhar and Shadab (was great with the ball). Hassan Ali was expensive as always. He had been consistently going for 10 RPO throughout the tournament. Rauf is over-rated. Pace alone is not everything. You need control and rhythm too. Sami is another example. We need to find better pacers than these two. Shahin Afridi bowled well upfront. Had that catch not been dropped by Hassan, it would have made things tough for Australia and Shahin might not have gone for three sixes in that over

Hindsight is 20/20 but Hafeez could probably have bowled a few more overs. Aussie batsmen love pace on the ball and they are more comfortable against pacers

WE did not field well either. 2-3 missed runouts and then that dropped catch which did not help our cause

Team played well in general but there are areas that we need to improve on.

 

[princeuk]

Toss should never have such a big say in any tournament.

The worst T20 side in top 8 Aus will play the final and probably win that as well since they have a mental stranglehold over NZ. What a shame.

As such T20 is such a fluke format, and on top of that you have toss playing such a big role.

Cricket deserved a Pak vs Eng final, 2 best sides in the world, instead we will see the 3rd best T20I side take on 8th side in a final, hope NZ clinches this since at least they respect the format.

This. The world cup deserved a England v Pakistan final i felt as they were the best sides in the tournament however both lost from winning positions, im still figuring out how both lost the semi final when they dominated most of the match....so many similarity between the two games.

 

[Hassaan HS]

It is Bazid Khan. Same guy who said “Lekin kufr to toot gaya” after Pakistan beat India in the group game.

https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/kuf...pakistans-win-against-india-in-t20-world-cup/

There's nothing wrong in Bazid's Sentence " kufr to toot gya " means finally the obstacle has been overcome.

Also "Kufr toota khuda khuda kr k" , it's an idiom, used when something good happens after a series of bad luck/disappointments/sorrow

So take it easy .

 

[sweep_shot]

Super analysis. Maxwell’s 7 runs from 10 balls put Australia over the top.

Wade's innings is an anomaly and not the norm. Pakistan simply bottled it up under pressure.

Maxwell at that time was the primary threat.

 

[Napa]

Do you actually understand Urdu?

About 95%, I grew up in Delhi.

 

[Napa]

Wade's innings is an anomaly and not the norm. Pakistan simply bottled it up under pressure.

Maxwell at that time was the primary threat.

Except that you didn’t say “primary”, you said “only”. Also, besides Wade, Stonis scored 40 from 31 balls.

 

[Napa]

There's nothing wrong in Bazid's Sentence " kufr to toot gya " means finally the obstacle has been overcome.

Also "Kufr toota khuda khuda kr k" , it's an idiom, used when something good happens after a series of bad luck/disappointments/sorrow

So take it easy .

The phrase may be idiomatic, but the word “kufr” is very religious.

The distinction between those who believe in Islam and those who do not is an essential one in the Quran. Kafir, and its plural kuffaar, is used directly 134 times in Quran, its verbal noun "kufr" is used 37 times, and the verbal cognates of kafir are used about 250 times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir

The phrase is based on “the idols of the non-believers has finally been broken after many attempts”.

Given the long history of religious conflict in the subcontinent, a presenter at an international sports event should not use such words after a game between Pakistan and India (where many people worship idols).

 

[MenInG]

The phrase may be idiomatic, but the word “kufr” is very religious.



The phrase is based on “the idols of the non-believers has finally been broken after many attempts”.

Given the long history of religious conflict in the subcontinent, a presenter at an international sports event should not use such words after a game between Pakistan and India (where many people worship idols).

Now I am totally convinced that you have no idea of what this Urdu phrase is about.

Suggest you leave this and move on. Enough nonsense.

 

[ChennaiFan]

There's nothing wrong in Bazid's Sentence " kufr to toot gya " means finally the obstacle has been overcome.

Also "Kufr toota khuda khuda kr k" , it's an idiom, used when something good happens after a series of bad luck/disappointments/sorrow

So take it easy .

Thanks for the clarification Hassan HS. Given this meaning, I believe Bazid's comments were unnecessarily sensationalized in a negative way. Poor judgment by the tweeters and irresponsible journalism by propagating wrong messages online.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Didn't he wins you Champions Trophy..

He did win us the Champions Trophy.

I did not insult him in other formats.

I have more blame on the management for playing a player who has been struggling with fitness, rhythm, and confidence.

Yes, backing a player makes sense, but we were tactically poor in many facets.

No wide yorkers, no proper bowling plans, getting lenient on Stoinis+Wade instead of going for the kill.

Nevertheless, such chances need to be taken. People will bring up catches dropped by Smith, Warner, and Zampa. Our job is not to compare our missed chances to those of others.

Teams that take the chances when it matters are those who stand up against all odds.

It is known by everyone who has watched this world cup that Hasan Ali was the weakest link in the bowling lineup. He has not pulled us down by his own means if that's what you were showing concern to. When a player is in such poor form, he will always be a liability for a team that is performing very well.

Form matters in world events. That is the biggest takeaway for Pakistan.

 

[AZulfi]

In world cups, it is not always the best team that wins.

Pakistan was surely one of the best teams of the tournament but do not ever underestimate Australia. They are a tournament team. Always raise their game in KO stages. There is a reason why they have reached the KO stages of ICC tournaments more times than any other team. Pakistan is joint second with New Zealand (both have reached the KO stage 11 x)

Everyone was saying England, England - power packed batting for sure (missed their best player Ben Stokes and then Jason Roy in the semifinal) but just take a look at their bowling. Woakes apart nothing special. Jordan is overrated, Moin and Adil not more than decent spinners, most teams have such spinners. That loss against England was an anomaly. Aussie batting just failed that day. 118 was never going to be defendable. Australia also has power-backed batting but their pace bowling is much better than England's imo. Zampa is as good as any other spinner in this format. Yes we should not have lost after having them 89/5 but Australia bat deep. Cummins and Starc are no mugs with the bat either, both capable of hitting sixes and boundaries.

I would say there is not much between the top 6 teams, the four semifinalists and India + RSA, each team capable of beating each other ON THE DAY.

 

[Usergame]

You should not call Australia "worst T20 side in top 8" after the way they last pair batted.

Toss had nothing to do with it.
Pakistan and England dropped catches and choked.
Nz and Australia won.
Pakistan and England do not deserve to be in the final- they were not good enough.

 

[topspin]

We dominated the contest after 88% of the overs were played out. The last 5 overs of Australia’s innings went very badly for us. This gave me nothing but heartbreak.

Having said that, the game was lost with the bat. We were 15-25 runs short. We didn’t fully capitalise on the Australian spinners. Babar was the main culprit in this.

I don’t think the dropped catch made a big difference. Australia were favourites to win before that delivery and had some good lower order hitters to come in Starc and Cummins.

Hafeez’s no ball made a bigger difference because it forced Babar Azam to bowl out Hasan Ali who was always the weak link in the bowling attack.

If Pakistan had won, you could argue we got lucky with Warner gifting us his wicket when he walked off.

Good tournament from Pakistan who certainly exceeded my expectations.

It’s a shame we couldn’t give Malik and Hafeez the send off they needed in what will have most likely been their last ICC tournament.