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Australia (371 & 349) beat England (286 & 352) by 82 runs to seal unassailable 3-0 Ashes lead in five-match series

Which side will win the 3rd Ashes Test at Adelaide?


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Very sombre mood in English camp. Fans are angry. They are venting it. So many depressed voices on English broadcasts. There was one question on podcast name THe cricketer asked summarized this tour. "4 years of preparation how come we are down to WIll jacks being the main spinner for us" . Yes. They started the series panning out in a very very different way. It has completely gone in a weird direction for England. Australia looked weak on paper.
 
Very sombre mood in English camp. Fans are angry. They are venting it. So many depressed voices on English broadcasts. There was one question on podcast name THe cricketer asked summarized this tour. "4 years of preparation how come we are down to WIll jacks being the main spinner for us" . Yes. They started the series panning out in a very very different way. It has completely gone in a weird direction for England. Australia looked weak on paper.
I think it's actually quite a surprise the level of capitulation.

Not just Bashir, but Crawley, Smith, Atkinson, Archer, Wood were all picked and backed for how they would fare in Australia.

Many series have been played with the mindset of making sure the players are ready for Australia.

Anderson and Woakes and others were nudged aside because it was felt they were unsuitable for Australia.

Honestly it's a shame it's been so one sided.

I thought this would be one of the best series in history.

Hopefully a miracle can happen somehow.
 
Really disappointed. I firmly believe England have capitulated because of expectancy. Australia were being written off prior to the series as a Dads army team who are on their last legs, and with both Cummins and Hazlewood missing, expectations went through the roof for a England win. With that, theyve not handled the pressure well at all.
 
I think it's actually quite a surprise the level of capitulation.

Not just Bashir, but Crawley, Smith, Atkinson, Archer, Wood were all picked and backed for how they would fare in Australia.

Many series have been played with the mindset of making sure the players are ready for Australia.

Anderson and Woakes and others were nudged aside because it was felt they were unsuitable for Australia.

Honestly it's a shame it's been so one sided.

I thought this would be one of the best series in history.

Hopefully a miracle can happen somehow.
It will only get worse because there is ahardly any gap between the next 2 tests. WIth this amount of work i am not sure Stokes and Archer will survive without break. Schedule with very long breaks, Injury issues to Australian everything was aligning perfectly for England. They blew it completely. Now Australia is getting back their players. It is likely England will face injury issues.
 
Australia has not won an Ashes in England since 2001, however they have not lost one either since 2009.

Australia even when they are not playing their best cricket (lost 2-1 in both 2005 and 2009 which were close affairs) are still competitive in England

England on the other hand have failed to compete/been humiliated in away Ashes since 2011 (when they won 3-1 under Strauss)

And this is not a great Australia batting side either….apart from Travis Head and Steve Smith. The rest are decent rather than great batsmen.

I could be wrong. Travis Head outside Australia averages a ordinary 32 with the bat, compared to 50+ at home.
 
Should be playing Webster over Inglis.

Adds way more value through his bowling and fielding while being a competent batsman.
 
435 to win is a big one for England

Expecially with Lyon on a day 4 and 5 pitch.
You have to bat atleast 100 overs to reach there plus aggressive approach. So far England has not crossed 83 over mark in 5 innings. So i will be shocked if they bat that long. But this is what they are bragging about. Bazball in 4th innings
 
If there was a time to bazball their way to win, it'd be this inning for England. Should go out all guns blazing.
 
If there was a time to bazball their way to win, it'd be this inning for England. Should go out all guns blazing.
They tried in the first test. Slightly reduced in the next test. Didn't work as they don't have defense. Bazball was adopted not because it was to revolutonize cricket. It was just to cover up lack of defensive technique. WHen a guy like Archer could bat for 33 overs there is no excuse for DUckett not to survive there.
 
Temu Tendulkar gone for 39, FTB Root never performed whenever England needed .

He is a FTB and biggest statpadder in the world cricket.

:klopp :kp
 
Australia messed up big time today. Great chance to bury England but couldn't capitalise. Failure for Inglis yet again.
If Crawley and Brook add another 100 runs then we are likely to get a thriller.

Currently England need 284 runs , another 100 runs and they can sence a victory form there.

:kp
 
Look at the stokes reaction like it was ball of the century. Why he always behave like that whenever he Bowled.

Anyway I lost his bet.

:kp
 
Third class England will now play dead rubbers at MCG & SCG.

Even the West Indies are showing fight in New Zealand.

McCullum should be thrown out of his contract.
 
Lyon's burst puts Aussies on cusp of claiming Ashes

A decisive three-wicket spell from Nathan Lyon late on day four has Australia four wickets away from wrapping up the Ashes in Adelaide

A trio of Nathan Lyon blows in the fourth day's final hour have left Australia just four wickets from completing an Ashes annihilation in Adelaide's third NRMA Insurance Test.

Just as quickly as England raised hopes of their greatest last-ditch heist in an era that has given them several, Lyon ripped them away as he clean bowled captain Ben Stokes in a devastating 17-ball late burst that yielded him 3-7.

By stumps, the visitors had stumbled to 6-207 and still 228 runs away from their target of 435, a fourth-innings total that is 21 runs above what any other team has chased in a Test on these shores before.

Pat Cummins (3-24 off 10 overs) had cracked open the game after Australia fell short of setting their opponents an impossible target, working over the fragile pair of Ben Duckett and Ollie Pope before wrangling out the prized scalp of a furious Joe Root.

But at 3-177 with Zak Crawley (85) and Harry Brook (30) untroubled by a penultimate-day pitch showing only minor signs of wear and tear, England appeared set to go into Sunday with a puncher's chance of an upset.

Enter Lyon.

The off-spinner had sent down 37 consecutive wicketless overs across England's two innings after bagging two victims in his first six balls on Thursday. The tourists swept and reverse-swept him out of the attack, leaving captain Cummins to turn to Travis Head's part-timers instead.

Brought back on as shadows began to lengthen across the pitch, Lyon bowled a reverse-sweeping Brook and then hit the same stump when left-handed Stokes missed a more conventional forward defence.

Both reacted as if they had been done by witchcraft rather than overspun off-breaks.

When the vastly-improved Crawley, who had shown considerable resolve to make England's second highest total of the series after he had scored one run off his first 28 balls, dragged his back foot after missing a straight one from Lyon.

Alex Carey effected the stumping that all-but sealed England's death warrant.

Only a miracle can now stop England from slumping to a 16th defeat from their past 18 Tests in Australia (the other two were draws) that will clinch a fourth successive Australian Ashes series win on their home soil.

Any semblance of momentum England felt they had after Australia lost 6-38 to be bowled out for 349 was gone even before the lunch break as Duckett poked Cummins' second ball as if he was providing Marnus Labuschagne with a warm-up slips catch.

Duckett has had an even more miserable series (averaging 16 from six innings) than the embattled Ollie Pope, yet it was the No.3 who remained in the spotlight as Labuschagne took a left-handed blinder to rival Steve Smith's in the preceding Test.

It capped Cummins' brilliant new-ball spell either side of lunch, though the fact he did not bring himself back on later in the day had some wondering whether his first game in five months had taken a physical toll on him.

For Pope, it marked the seventh time he has been out before reaching double digits against Australia and lowered his overall Ashes batting average to 17.42.

Crawley, who enraged India in a time-wasting row at Lord's earlier this year, cynically employed similar tactics when he delayed Cummins in his final over before the day's first interval. The paceman retained a broad smile after theatrically repaying the favour by pretending to tie his shoelace and then send a fizzing delivery past his outside edge.

Cummins earned a bigger prize after tea. Root's fighting stand with Crawley might well have ended when he shouldered arms and padded away a Head off-break that ball-tracking showed to be hitting the stumps. Saved by Ahsan Raza's not-out call, Root then erred again when a waft outside off gave a fired-up Cummins his wicket for the second time in the Test and 13th time overall.

Root's anger – he punched his bat and screamed twice – embodied the wider frustrations felt by this English batting unit.

An Adelaide crowd that has gorged on South Australian success over the first three days of their Christmas Test toasted local hero Travis Head one more time on Saturday morning as he passed 150 for the sixth time in his Test career.

A maiden career double-century was his for the taking, but the lure of launching the disciplined Josh Tongue into the Members' stand proved too enticing. His attempt found the stuttering Crawley, who caught well after initially struggling to find the high ball in the sun.

Head walked off to another rousing ovation, a regular occurrence in front of his home crowd; his 170 (from only 219 balls) marked his fourth ton in as many Tests here and means four of his nine highest scores have come at the venue.

It ended a 162-run stand with Carey, whose quest to become the first Australian wicketkeeper to score hundreds in both innings of a Test failed when he tickled Stokes to leg-slip for 72.

When Josh Inglis' middling return to the Test side continued as he edged Tongue behind, it exposed the hosts' tail to the second new ball. They coughed up their final three wickets for only five runs to cap another good-but-not-great batting effort this series.

 
Yes and this is a defensive move. You can’t select your main spinner based on his batting on a tour as testing as the ashes.

They clearly prepared Shoaib for this occasion. He got the beating and the experience in Ind series and elsewhere.
It's not a defensive move in this particular instance.

He played for the Lions in 2 matches in Australia(against England XI and Australia A)and he averaged 133 with the ball.

What exactly would he have done against Australia's first XI in these conditions ?

George Dobell mentioned that even in the nets , the likes of Ollie Pope were smoking Bashir left, right and centre.

Jacks was actually bowling slightly better and he's a far better batsman that Bashir
 
It's not a defensive move in this particular instance.

He played for the Lions in 2 matches in Australia(against England XI and Australia A)and he averaged 133 with the ball.

What exactly would he have done against Australia's first XI in these conditions ?

George Dobell mentioned that even in the nets , the likes of Ollie Pope were smoking Bashir left, right and centre.

Jacks was actually bowling slightly better and he's a far better batsman that Bashir

They should still front up and accept some blame. Overall it is a defensive move.

They picked a county second XI bowler, raised his profile and selected him over other bowlers in the past because they felt he could do well here, basically on a gut instinct, then chickened out at the end.
 
They should still front up and accept some blame. Overall it is a defensive move.

They picked a county second XI bowler, raised his profile and selected him over other bowlers in the past because they felt he could do well here, basically on a gut instinct, then chickened out at the end.
That they definitely should. But it's not what clinched the series for Australia.

They don't have a single spinner who can match Lyon in these conditions .

Bigger explanation should be for the lengths pacers have bowled.

Spin has only mattered here in Adelaide not in the first 2 matches.

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This is the reason why they couldn't keep up with Australia. Australia's attack bowled far higher percentage of deliveries in the 5-8 m range whereas England bowled much more on the shorter lengths and they got cut all day
 
That they definitely should. But it's not what clinched the series for Australia.

They don't have a single spinner who can match Lyon in these conditions .

Bigger explanation should be for the lengths pacers have bowled.

Spin has only mattered here in Adelaide not in the first 2 matches.

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This is the reason why they couldn't keep up with Australia. Australia's attack bowled far higher percentage of deliveries in the 5-8 m range whereas England bowled much more on the shorter lengths and they got cut all day
The short stuff was another plan. Their strategy was let's charge in and bounce them out.

Baz only keeps his job if Rob key is eager to keep his and they decide to downplay this Ashes and pretend the focus is on the next one :kp
 
Australia has not won an Ashes in England since 2001, however they have not lost one either since 2009.

Australia even when they are not playing their best cricket (lost 2-1 in both 2005 and 2009 which were close affairs) are still competitive in England

England on the other hand have failed to compete/been humiliated in away Ashes since 2011 (when they won 3-1 under Strauss)

And this is not a great Australia batting side either….apart from Travis Head and Steve Smith. The rest are decent rather than great batsmen.
England also won the Ashes at home in 2013 (3-0) and 2015 (3-2)
 
That they definitely should. But it's not what clinched the series for Australia.

They don't have a single spinner who can match Lyon in these conditions .

Bigger explanation should be for the lengths pacers have bowled.

Spin has only mattered here in Adelaide not in the first 2 matches.

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This is the reason why they couldn't keep up with Australia. Australia's attack bowled far higher percentage of deliveries in the 5-8 m range whereas England bowled much more on the shorter lengths and they got cut all day
Spin also matters in Sydney. England just don’t have a quality test spinner at the moment.

Graeme Swann was their last quality spinner
 
Spin also matters in Sydney. England just don’t have a quality test spinner at the moment.

Graeme Swann was their last quality spinner

England are not a complete test team & they still miss a quality bowler like Swann. I remember reading some time ago that Simon Harmer was close to getting eligibility but that didn't materialize & now he's playing for RSA so that ship has sailed fully.
 
The batsman and the seamers have cost England. Spin not been in the equation until this test.

Perth and Brisbane Gave England a Great chance to win both games, yet they folded like a pack of cards under expectancy of winning!
 
Did'nt think we'd be here with the certainity of an england defeat, Ashes gone and Melbourne And Sydney to be dead rubbers.
Geez - about 4 years or so to prepare and they bombed spectacularly. Jsut feel for eng fans, how soul shattering must this be....
hope for more fight in next two tests.
 
That they definitely should. But it's not what clinched the series for Australia.

They don't have a single spinner who can match Lyon in these conditions .

Bigger explanation should be for the lengths pacers have bowled.

Spin has only mattered here in Adelaide not in the first 2 matches.

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This is the reason why they couldn't keep up with Australia. Australia's attack bowled far higher percentage of deliveries in the 5-8 m range whereas England bowled much more on the shorter lengths and they got cut all day
So many visiting attacks make the mistake of getting carried away with the bounce and bowling too short in Australia.

Many people will criticise Bazball (and rightly as some of England's strokeplay on this tour has been shocking), but Stokes/McCullum have misjudged Australian conditions with their selection of bowlers.

They desperately wanted Archer and Wood fit for this Ashes because of their pace. Atkinson and Carse were backed largely because it was thought their attributes would prove useful in Australia.

However Australian pitches in the Cummins era haven't been as flat as in previous eras (Adelaide's been more like a traditional Australian surface). Conventional, disciplined line and length bowling has been rewarded.

Pakistan took a military medium attack in 23/24 (while our commies were screaming for pace) and caused Australia problems in Melbourne and Sydney. In this series, Boland and Neser have taken wickets with Carey up to the stumps.

Like us when they have created chances, the fielding has been diabolical.
 
Did'nt think we'd be here with the certainity of an england defeat, Ashes gone and Melbourne And Sydney to be dead rubbers.
Geez - about 4 years or so to prepare and they bombed spectacularly. Jsut feel for eng fans, how soul shattering must this be....
hope for more fight in next two tests.
Even if they fight in the two tests. The underlying sentiment will be "too little too late".
 
Did'nt think we'd be here with the certainity of an england defeat, Ashes gone and Melbourne And Sydney to be dead rubbers.
Geez - about 4 years or so to prepare and they bombed spectacularly. Jsut feel for eng fans, how soul shattering must this be....
hope for more fight in next two tests.
Exactly this.
Four years of preparation have gone into this from the ECB, Key etc.
- They backed Crawley and Pope when both average barely over 30 after sixty odd Tests each.
- No spinner so they took a punt on a an untried 22y old who has played 30 first class games.
-- Decided pace was the way to go and bet on Wood with repeated central contracts though he had a woeful injury record
- No back-up top order batsmen other than Bethell who has never scored a first class century.
- Key destroyed the early part of the county cricket season by enforcing the Kookaburra ball

Key is on a contract that pays over £1 million a year to produce this rubbish
 
Exactly this.
Four years of preparation have gone into this from the ECB, Key etc.
- They backed Crawley and Pope when both average barely over 30 after sixty odd Tests each.
- No spinner so they took a punt on a an untried 22y old who has played 30 first class games.
-- Decided pace was the way to go and bet on Wood with repeated central contracts though he had a woeful injury record
- No back-up top order batsmen other than Bethell who has never scored a first class century.
- Key destroyed the early part of the county cricket season by enforcing the Kookaburra ball

Key is on a contract that pays over £1 million a year to produce this rubbish
I think Key did a good job in terms of picking up an England side that faltered during Joe Roots captaincy.

He does seem to have got a bit arrogant recently. Could sense a little bit of tension and needle at times when he was interacting with pundits and ex players.

Despite this disaster tour, I do think Bazball has been largely positive for England and for cricket. It has moved the game on to the extent that teams no longer fear batting last as much, 4th innings targets are being set for higher runs, and turned the conventional blockathons on flat tracks into high paced aggressive cricket. They just had to learn to reign it back a bit at times. Which unfortunately was beyond them.

That's fairly impressive to have pushed on the oldest format in such a way over a 3-4 year period.
 
Bazball was brought in to mass players who were technically inept. They get away with it against Poor attacks and flat tracks. The moment when Quality opposition has all bases covered (Australia India) then England badly falter.

I see no reason to discard the philosophy. England have weak opposition on the Horizon, and next time they do come across Australia agsin, Aussies will be in a Transition.
 
Some consolation for England!

Avoid record 10-day Ashes defeat (cf 2001 under Nasser Hussain and Athers. Athers was the captain in 2 of the 5 tests)

Lost in 11 days in 2002/3. Barring a miracle, England on course to equalling that tomorrow.
 
So many visiting attacks make the mistake of getting carried away with the bounce and bowling too short in Australia.

Many people will criticise Bazball (and rightly as some of England's strokeplay on this tour has been shocking), but Stokes/McCullum have misjudged Australian conditions with their selection of bowlers.

They desperately wanted Archer and Wood fit for this Ashes because of their pace. Atkinson and Carse were backed largely because it was thought their attributes would prove useful in Australia.

However Australian pitches in the Cummins era haven't been as flat as in previous eras (Adelaide's been more like a traditional Australian surface). Conventional, disciplined line and length bowling has been rewarded.

Pakistan took a military medium attack in 23/24 (while our commies were screaming for pace) and caused Australia problems in Melbourne and Sydney. In this series, Boland and Neser have taken wickets with Carey up to the stumps.

Like us when they have created chances, the fielding has been diabolical.
And, ironically, while the Aussies were not spamming the short ball like the English, they used it very accurately to deadly effect.

Until yesterday,

Australia used short balls sparingly but took 9 wickets at 16 odd average in the series by bowling it high and at a tight line

England had taken only 2 wickets at 96 odd average because their shorts balls were just not accurate enough.

The gulf in seam bowling has been ridiculously big
 
Historically Aussies Prioritize the Ashes like no other series. They are ultra competitive as it is. When you had the 150 years of history Attached to it then they seem to add to the Competitive nature of theirs. Which makes them even tougher to beat!
 
Historically Aussies Prioritize the Ashes like no other series. They are ultra competitive as it is. When you had the 150 years of history Attached to it then they seem to add to the Competitive nature of theirs. Which makes them even tougher to beat!

I think they prioritize World Cups too.

They have won 8 World Cups (6 ODI WCs, 1 WTC, 1 World T20).
 
Historically Aussies Prioritize the Ashes like no other series. They are ultra competitive as it is. When you had the 150 years of history Attached to it then they seem to add to the Competitive nature of theirs. Which makes them even tougher to beat!
Very little to do with that. Aus has been a monster team at home as long as visiting team is not India. From 2017, Aus has played 31 tests at home( not including India) and lost only 1 game and won 26 with W/L 26. Flip it to Eng in home for context.

Eng simply does not have a quality to go toe to toe with Aus in Aus conditions. Aus is just fantastic team in Aus conditions.
 
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