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Australia (474 & 234) hands India (369 & 155) an 184-run defeat in the 4th Test to take a 2-1 lead in the 5-match series

BouncerGuy said:
What do you want me to understand???
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Basically he is saying Jaiswal is 2-3 leagues above Saim.

Not to put down Saim. One of the most exciting batters to come from Pakistan since Umar Akmal and probably already achieved more. Having said that extremely talented but not at Jaiswal’s level (at this present moment)
 
Extremely disappointed! Wanted to see the lad get another 150+ score. Easier said than done, though.
 
It was not Kohli fault. He was looking at the ball and there was no run at all.
 
One Wickets bring two

Why he was played that ball. It was way outside the off stump.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Not really brother.

Shamis stats are deflated by that 2014 series on pattas in Aus where every bowler struggled, this includes and in form Mitchell Johnson and Harris. Shami has done well on last two tours where he got sporting wickets.
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*done well on only 1 tour.
He just played 1 Test on the last tour (he picked up no wickets and India lost that game).

In the 2017/18 tour, he bowled well but Australia's batting line up was depleted and didn't have Smith and Warner.

My point is Shami's absence doesn't seem as huge as it is being made out to be. Also India's bowling performance in the previous tour suggested that they could do well even in the absence of their front line pacers.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
I reckon kohlis Got atleast another couple of years left!
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No way.
He loses focus now. That was the not the case when he was in his prime. After practicing for 9 straight days on that 3rd -6th line stump, what was the result? He again did the same mistake. Which shows that at this age he cannot improve so it's better to leave and not further damp your reputation. Him fighting with media or having a good at 19 year old is also because of him being frustrated at himself for not doing what he used to do best.
 
What is the point of sending a night watchman when our batting line-up ends at Pant anyway?
 
Kevin Bacon picks up the night watchman as well after removing India's quarterback.
 
Why are they protecting Reddy? Sent a nightwatchman and now Jadeja
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Nearly cost us World T20 final with an impact less knock .
Just pension him off please.
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Instead of going at Kohli's head every time, just accept both rohit and kohli are burden to the team .they have to be shipped off for team sake .
 
Devadwal said:
This thread is going with very slowly means india is batting alright .

Once Kohli falls ,wait for people's to came from nowhere to talk about him.

:kp
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Kohli sucks
Caused jaiswal wicket and now gets out himself
 
What a day it was for Australia.

Day 2: Stumps - India trail by 310 runs
AUS 474
IND 164/5 (46) CRR: 3.57
 
Devadwal said:
Stop fooling youself.it was jaiswal fault and that's lead to collapsed .
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What about his own dismissal? Useless old washed up has been fodder. That's all he is. 36 lmao. Thanks kohli. Now get lost.
 
Wow India really blew it in the last half hour didn't they? Had the game in control with two set batsmen and now suddenly half their side is gone
 
kron said:
What about his own dismissal? Useless old washed up has been fodder. That's all he is. 36 lmao. Thanks kohli. Now get lost.
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Don't change the topic .we know kohli is finished .

But we are discussing jaiswal run out and it was his own fault and that leads to collapsed .
 
Devadwal said:
Last 20 minutes put australia in strong position.
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Very strong position. First task will be to avoid follow on, still over 100 runs short. But as usual the lower order will help out India. This is normal for this team.
 
Lol, sending out a night watchman 30 minutes before stumps. Shattered managment.
 
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Devadwal said:
Don't change the topic .we know kohli is finished .

But we are discussing jaiswal run out and it was his own fault and that leads to collapsed .
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Watch it again. Kohli should have ran. No one cares for kohlis wicket. We need jaiswal. He should have been more attentive. Kohlis fault again.
 
IAJ said:
Very strong position. First task will be to avoid follow on, still over 100 runs short. But as usual the lower order will help out India. This is normal for this team.
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After one failure by lower order they will be forced to retire while these super stars keeping their spots. I have never seen such a corrupt selection in Indian history.
 
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India once again hands over the game to Australia on a platter.

As expected, Boland is made to look unplayable. Kohli with his atrocious flirting with the deliveries on the 7th and 8th stump once again costed India the game. He simply cannot adopt his game from odi to Tsst matches. He likes to get bat on every delivery. It’s over for him.

Not sure why Akashdeep was sent. Wasted wicket. He is not a defender. He is a basher. Poor choice once again.

Jaiswal started the collapse. Ran like a headless chicken. Silly running.

The commentary is biased as usual. irritating to hear the commies go on and on about Sam Konatas. Yes he is having a good debut. But they are talking about him like he is a legend already. Too early to say anything.

Overall, I still feel India will score close to 300 here. Aus will get a good 150-180 lead. They will bat for 60 overs and give India a 400+ target. Then we have to watch India collapse to 200 AO. This Indian team lacks the fighting spirit. It is lazy and uninterested just like its captain Rohit.
 
kron said:
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Watch it again. Kohli should have ran. No one cares for kohlis wicket. We need jaiswal. He should have been more attentive. Kohlis fault again.
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Why should have Kohli ran when there was no runs and he was looking at the ball .

Jaiswal was watching both Kohli and ball so he should have stop when Kohli was not responding.
 
kron said:
He will never call out kohli rohit directly for under performing.
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Oh bhai he was continuosly criticized them but without naming. People should have understand this simple facts .

But from past few months he was Slammed them by calling Their name .
 
Poor Bumrah can’t get much rest at all. He has to come back to bowl by tomorrow’s lunch. That is not even a full day break for him after bowling all those overs.
 
kron said:
Even if that's the case we all know kohli is finished so he should have ran himself out in that case.
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Yes indeed. The wicket was flat today. All that Indian openers had to do was to see off the new ball and cash in when the ball gets soft. But it’s too much of task for Rohit and co.

Kohli even managed those 35 runs because there was nothing in the wicket. He threw his wicket away by chasing yet another wide delivery. If the wicket had some juice, Kohli wouldn’t even score 10 runs.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Yes indeed. The wicket was flat today. All that Indian openers had to do was to see off the new ball and cash in when the ball gets soft. But it’s too much of task for Rohit and co.

Kohli even managed those 35 runs because there was nothing in the wicket. He threw his wicket away by chasing yet another wide delivery. If the wicket had some juice, Kohli wouldn’t even score 10 runs.
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That was a nothing delivery. He poked tamely. Hope people stop comparing him with Sachin, Dravid, Laxman.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Nearly cost us World T20 final with an impact less knock .
Just pension him off please.
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jnaveen1980 said:
This is like 10th first innings collapse in recent times.
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@Champ_Pal Question for Team India fans:

Were there any pacers India left out due to fitness concerns? Right now, it feels like Bumrah and Siraj are carrying the pace attack, but the team seems overloaded with all-rounders. Could there have been better pacers in the mix? Australia looks beatable, but Bumrah hasn’t had enough support on this tour, and the spinners don’t seem to be making much impact either.
 
I trust Pant and Jadeja though.

At least they might still be there when I wake up.
 
India left reeling after late wickets put Australia in control of Boxing Day Test

Yet another Test century from Steve Smith as Australia compile a big score on the second day of the Boxing Day Test in Melbourne.

India's hopes in the Boxing Day Test are hanging by a thread after Australia picked up three late wickets - including the big scalps of Yashasvi Jaiswal and Virat Kohli - to remain in control of the crucial ICC World Test Championship contest after two days in Melbourne.

Jaiswal and Kohli put on a century partnership to give India hope in reply to Steve Smith's 34th Test century and Australia's big total of 474, but the pair fell in quick succession and Akash Deep departed on the stroke of stumps to leave the tourists reeling at 164/5 with three days remaining of the crucial fourth Test.

After Smith scored yet another Test century earlier in the day and skipper Pat Cummins contributed an equally entertaining innings of 49, Australia removed Rohit Sharma (3) and KL Rahul (24) prior to tea to reduce the tourists to 51/2 as the home side continued to dominate.

Jaiswal (82) and Kohli (36) threatened to swing the momentum back India's way with their 102-run stand, but Jaiswal was left stranded when Kohli refused a quick single in the offing. Kohli fell the very next over to a peach from local legend Scott Boland (2/24) to give Australia the ascendancy once again.

Night-watcher Akash Deep (0) was also dismissed by Boland during the penultimate over of the day, with keeper Rishabh Pant (6) and all-rounder Ravindra Jadeja (4) at the crease and India still trailing by 310 runs and with plenty of work still to do if they are to salvage something from the match and the series.

Earlier, Smith was at his brilliant best for the bulk of his 197-ball stay that netted a score of 140, as he found the boundary when required and pushed singles and twos into the wide open spaces of the MCG.

He brought up his 34th Test century - and his 11th against India - with a gentle push through the covers that was timed beautifully and raced all the way to the boundary in front of the Shane Warne stand.

Smith was finally out bowled when he played on off the bowling of Deep (2/94) and departed the MCG to a standing ovation from the massive crowd in excess of 85,000 people.

The scalp of Cummins was the only wicket India could pick up during the opening session on Friday, but not before he contributed a handy innings of 49 and combined with Smith for a partnership of 112 that helped keep Australia in the ascendancy.

Both Smith and Cummins found scoring easy to come by as India's bowlers looked below their best with the usually reliable Jasprit Bumrah (4/99) conceding his most runs ever during a Test innings and Jadeja (3/78) arguably the pick of the visiting bowlers.

Jaiswal and Kohli matched the efforts of Australia's batting group to give India some hope, but the late wickets proved costly as Australia won the momentum back late in the day.

On top of bragging rights for the Border-Gavaskar Trophy with the series locked at 1-1, the two teams are also in the race for spots in the World Test Championship Final at Lord's in June 2025.

Australia sit in second (58.89% of possible points) and India in third (55.88% of possible points), with table-toppers South Africa (63.33%) currently taking on Pakistan in Centurion.

ICC
 
Farabi said:
@Champ_Pal Question for Team India fans:

Were there any pacers India left out due to fitness concerns? Right now, it feels like Bumrah and Siraj are carrying the pace attack, but the team seems overloaded with all-rounders. Could there have been better pacers in the mix? Australia looks beatable, but Bumrah hasn’t had enough support on this tour, and the spinners don’t seem to be making much impact either.
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On a 400 par wicket loading the side with pacers won't serve any purpose. You need batsmen to score 400 runs. Spinners were hardly used. By the time they were regularly used 60 overs were already done. Worst captaincy in Indian history.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
That was a nothing delivery. He poked tamely. Hope people stop comparing him with Sachin, Dravid, Laxman.
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Laxman is overrated. I will not put him in the same bracket as Dravid and Sachin.

Kohli is a step above Laxman and 4 steps below Dravid and Sachin in Test cricket. Sachin and Dravid know where their off stump is. They don’t chase deliveries far outside off like a buck chasing doe.

Kohli by the time he retires will be in the same bracket as Saurav Ganguly. Mr. Ganguly also used to chase deliveries far outside off. Both will have similar batting averages too😂
 
Aus should always play Boland vs India irrespective of the wicket. He just always troubles them more than the other Aussie seamers. He is more of a Nz/ Eng style bowler.
 
ethan hunt said:
Aus should always play Boland vs India irrespective of the wicket. He just always troubles them more than the other Aussie seamers. He is more of a Nz/ Eng style bowler.
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He is tall and hits the deck hard. Awkward bounce and always gets a little bit of seam movement. Enough for FTB’s to surrender.
 
Varun said:
I trust Pant and Jadeja though.

At least they might still be there when I wake up.
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Pant, Jaddu, Reddy and Sundar are good enough to score 150 runs between them. But with constant collapses from top and middle order, they will bE under tremendous pressure to perform and bail out India. It’s a 50-50 lottery now.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Pant, Jaddu, Reddy and Sundar are good enough to score 150 runs between them. But with constant collapses from top and middle order, they will bE under tremendous pressure to perform and bail out India. It’s a 50-50 lottery now.
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If we score another 115 odd runs to save the follow-on I dare Rohit and Kohli to hug each other in the dugout again.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
On a 400 par wicket loading the side with pacers won't serve any purpose. You need batsmen to score 400 runs. Spinners were hardly used. By the time they were regularly used 60 overs were already done. Worst captaincy in Indian history.
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But still, who are some pacers for red ball cricket in India right now. Apart from Shami.
I am surprised India is not investing more in Arshdeep
 
Varun said:
If we score another 115 odd runs to save the follow-on I dare Rohit and Kohli to hug each other in the dugout again.
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On the contrary, it may not be bad for India to follow on. Saves Bumrah from losing his right arm in trying to bowl another 30 overs.

This Test series is a goner. India needs Bumrah for CT. Even if Bumrah performs brilliantly and in the process gets injured, Indian batting will not be good enough to post competitive totals.
 
Farabi said:
@Champ_Pal Question for Team India fans:

Were there any pacers India left out due to fitness concerns? Right now, it feels like Bumrah and Siraj are carrying the pace attack, but the team seems overloaded with all-rounders. Could there have been better pacers in the mix? Australia looks beatable, but Bumrah hasn’t had enough support on this tour, and the spinners don’t seem to be making much impact either.
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Realistically, no. The S&C work done by Shankar Basu kept our bowlers' speeds up but that doesn't seem to be happening now.

Also, between 2015-2019 , Shami and Ishant barely played T20 cricket which kept them in good shape for Test cricket.

Don't think that's possible now.
 
Farabi said:
But still, who are some pacers for red ball cricket in India right now. Apart from Shami.
I am surprised India is not investing more in Arshdeep
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Arshdeep will be playing in Tests soon. Shami is on his last legs.

The likes of Harshit Rana and Akashdeep are not going to cut it for India.
Prasidh should not be anywhere close to the team. He is the most useless of them.

India has a dearth of quality pacers in Tests. This is why Siraj keeps getting selected in spite of these bad performances.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Poor Bumrah can’t get much rest at all. He has to come back to bowl by tomorrow’s lunch. That is not even a full day break for him after bowling all those overs.
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He shouldn't bowl. Period. Just rest him.

I have had enough. He doesn't deserve to be around rohit and kohli. He is far too good for these clowns.
 
Farabi said:
But still, who are some pacers for red ball cricket in India right now. Apart from Shami.
I am surprised India is not investing more in Arshdeep
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SIraj is not the pacer. India has never tried Prasidh krishna on this tour. Last time they had Thakur who was a net bowler. Natrajan who was a net bowler. Sundar who was a net bowler. Saini was a reserve bowler. Even Saini got injured during the match. Siraj was in his 2nd test. India beat Australia with that team. You need good captain first
 
Farabi said:
@Champ_Pal Question for Team India fans:

Were there any pacers India left out due to fitness concerns? Right now, it feels like Bumrah and Siraj are carrying the pace attack, but the team seems overloaded with all-rounders. Could there have been better pacers in the mix? Australia looks beatable, but Bumrah hasn’t had enough support on this tour, and the spinners don’t seem to be making much impact either.
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Shami was a huge loss

Rana should have played here.
Prasidh is good if he gets his mental issues sorted. Gets steep bounce
Kuldeep Sen is a good bowler but injured
There are a few others who have potential.

Keverappa gets good bounce but he isna trundler. He may do ok here though.

Arshdeep singh is good but for tests not sure.
Himanshu chauhan has potential.
Saini old now

Mukesh Kumar trundler but is accurate ish.

So yea like 2 or 3 other options with potential. 2 are injured.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
SIraj is not the pacer. India has never tried Prasidh krishna on this tour. Last time they had Thakur who was a net bowler. Natrajan who was a net bowler. Sundar who was a net bowler. Saini was a reserve bowler. Even Saini got injured during the match. Siraj was in his 2nd test. India beat Australia with that team. You need good captain first
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So main options are Prasidh Krishna and Saini are the back up right now
 
kron said:
Shami was a huge loss

Rana should have played here.
Prasidh is good if he gets his mental issues sorted. Gets steep bounce
Kuldeep Sen is a good bowler but injured
There are a few others who have potential.

Keverappa gets good bounce but he isna trundler. He may do ok here though.

Arshdeep singh is good but for tests not sure.
Himanshu chauhan has potential.
Saini old now

Mukesh Kumar trundler but is accurate ish.

So yea like 2 or 3 other options with potential. 2 are injured.
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I think they should bring Arshdeep. He looks a real talent
 
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