Australia v England | 2015 World Cup | Group A | Match 2 | 14th February, 2015 | Melbourne

[Mamoon]

Now just do it soon buddy, Dil k mamlay mein Dil ke he suna kru, warna sochi paya tay bnda gaya. And for heaven sake think like a extreme delusionalal passionat person and a pakistani for today and tommarow, and you can have your realism for rest of your life. Just do it man.

Okay, point noted.

 

[Ikball]

England is doomed.

 

[Aman]

Mitchell Marsh picking up a 5.

England are just all over the place.

I am going at adjust my semi finalists.


Australia, SA , NZ and Sri Lanka.

SL to beat Aus, that's my upset.

 

[Jabo]

Lol Morgan showing how poor he actually is

The only + was they had him scoring runs here in Australia last year

 

[Bilal7]

England was never chasing this.

Could have atleast tested them. This isn't a bad batting track at all except for the swing upfront.

 

[razabbas]

5 wickets for marsh

 

[Aman]

Could have atleast tested them. This isn't a bad batting track at all except for the swing upfront.

England aren't capable of chasing more than 250 against Aus, they've completely destroyed them mentally again.

 

[Electron]

Marsh

 

[DarkKnightRisesAgain]

I don't know what to say.

and I refuse to meet her or talk to her on the phone, very awkward.

We will get engaged soon, she's my cousin. At the moments its a very awkward and embarrassing relationship.

Isn't it awkward to marry your cousin? I mean you have the same blood lines and medical science proves that the closer the generation gaps, the more probability of mental disorders in off springs between the couples, Just saying!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

England was never chasing this.

Taylor is a risk to "Bhai"

If Taylor plays at 3, they accommodate Ballance at opener with Bell.

So "Bhai competes at 6 with Jos and morgan and he will be out....

So That's why he is being criticized by some people

Think and thou shalt find the answer.

 

[NZcricketfan]

And to think this place was celebrating the win against england as if it was the greatest thing ever

 

[Arsal_AK]

Mitchell Marsh picking up a 5.

England are just all over the place.

I am going at adjust my semi finalists.


Australia, SA , NZ and Sri Lanka.

No chance.

It will be India.

 

[Bilal7]

What is this guy doing? Can't rotate the strike and can't clear the infield either. A very poor mixture of Fawad Alam, Younis Khan and Asad Shafiq.

No wonder the wannabe English fans are upset.

 

[iafzal]

India and England have been broken down.

you mean dismantled piece by piece ...

 

[Arsal_AK]

Guaranteed if they come up against the Lankan in QF.

 

[Nuekboi]

You know match is dead when thread is talking about incestuous marriage

 

[Dr_Bassim]

No chance.

It will be India.

India will be lucky to qualify from group stage.

Thrashings at hand of Pakistan , South Africa, West Indies and Zimbabwe.

Might scrape a win against UAE

Ireland will compete well against them.

Need a lot of luck to reach QF even.

 

[Bilal7]

And to think this place was celebrating the win against england as if it was the greatest thing ever

We needed wins to get back on track. One step at a time.

 

[Markhor]

Valentine's Day Massacre of the Poms. Disappointing that the World Cup has started with two such uncompetitive matches.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You know match is dead when thread is talking about incestuous marriage

A bit over , no?

 

[Bilal7]

1st four after 34 balls. Taraqqi.

 

[Zeshan547]

No chance.

It will be India.

are you crazy? I will just quote Gavaskar "indian in india is power house but india overseas is just power mouse" their good batting isn't good enough to make up for sorry bowling they have. So get some perspective.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

1st four after 34 balls. Taraqqi.

What did "Bhai" do ?

Had Taylor come early, this innings might be some use.

No point when 6 batsmen have departed and you come in at 66-4 and chasing 343

 

[Firebreaker]

Valentine's Day Massacre of the Poms. Disappointing that the World Cup has started with two such uncompetitive matches.

Last WC also started with one sided match and not to talk about last year T20 WC

 

[Energetic]

RR damage for both SL and ENG. Minnows will be taking note.

 

[Bilal7]

What did "Bhai" do ?

Had Taylor come early, this innings might be some use.

No point when 6 batsmen have departed and you come in at 66-4 and chasing 343

Bhai didn't play a Younis-esque innings and atleast tried to win the game for his country. What is the point of this innings?

Had Taylor come in early, he would have been knocked over by Starc and his swing. He isn't averaging 50 just so you know.

 

[Arsal_AK]

are you crazy? I will just quote Gavaskar "indian in india is power house but india overseas is just power mouse" their good batting isn't good enough to make up for sorry bowling they have. So get some perspective.

Champions Trophy.

 

[Bilal7]

Had a Pakistani player played such an innings, this forum would be gushing with metaphorical blood.

 

[DarkKnightRisesAgain]

India will be lucky to qualify from group stage.

Thrashings at hand of Pakistan , South Africa, West Indies and Zimbabwe.

Might scrape a win against UAE

Ireland will compete well against them.

Need a lot of luck to reach QF even.

You're being too optimistic but I am sure you'll be seriously disappointed with Pakistan after their bowling gets thrashed and they lose by a big margin. Then you'll regret your phainta thread and will be disappointed for making a fool out of yourself in recent days with your optimism.

 

[Ikball]

Taylor is a risk to "Bhai"

If Taylor plays at 3, they accommodate Ballance at opener with Bell.

So "Bhai competes at 6 with Jos and morgan and he will be out....

So That's why he is being criticized by some people

Think and thou shalt find the answer.

"bhai" is an all rounder, how can he compete with morgan or joe

 

[Zeshan547]

India will be lucky to qualify from group stage.

Thrashings at hand of Pakistan , South Africa, West Indies and Zimbabwe.

Might scrape a win against UAE

Ireland will compete well against them.

Need a lot of luck to reach QF even.

yeah, fully agree india could very will be spain of this world cup as defending champion. And we all know what happened to spain. So get ready for few surprises.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Bhai didn't play a Younis-esque innings and atleast tried to win the game for his country. What is the point of this innings?

Had Taylor come in early, he would have been knocked over by Starc and his swing. He isn't averaging 50 just so you know.

Still need a stable number 3.

It's a bonus if he can score quickly.

Can't have someone "trying to win" and "failing 9 games out of 10" . That feels like Pollard or Afridi.

At least if you ain't winning, stop the flow of wickets.

I think Taylor can stop that flow from one end.

 

[Asif321]

humiliation , UAE played better than England vs Aussies

 

[DarkKnightRisesAgain]

A bit over , no?

Not a bit over but when someone talk about cousin marriage, it disgusts me (no offense to anyone), There is a reason cousin marriage is banned european nations!

 

[Red Devil]

Whats this "bhai" crap? It's so damn cringeworthy lmao. Like wth, is that supposed to be funny?

Pls mention them by their names fgs

 

[Dr_Bassim]

"bhai" is an all rounder, how can he compete with morgan or joe

In Australia there's not much use for his spin. If he can't bat well, that is.

Ballance
Bell
Taylor
Root
Morgan
Butler
Woakes
Jordan
Broad
Anderson
Tredwell

 

[DarkKnightRisesAgain]

in*

 

[Bilal7]

Still need a stable number 3.

It's a bonus if he can score quickly.

Can't have someone "trying to win" and "failing 9 games out of 10" . That feels like Pollard or Afridi.

At least if you ain't winning, stop the flow of wickets.

I think Taylor can stop that flow from one end.

LOL. When Shehzad does this, you guys criticize him to no end and now Taylor playing an innings that Younis would be ashamed of is no big deal. Like I said, he doesn't stop the flow of wickets either and gets out after derailing any momentum that the openers put up.

Moeen Ali is a far better batsman than him.

"bhai" is an all rounder, how can he compete with morgan or joe

Everything revolves around Moeen Ali in this English side, apparently.

 

[Asif321]

Who is the great man behind making Morgan a captain
Team under Strauss was so good , since he has gone England look dead lot

 

[iafzal]

They may not even reach half way the way things are.

 

[Bilal7]

In Australia there's not much use for his spin. If he can't bat well, that is.

Ballance
Bell
Taylor
Root
Morgan
Butler
Woakes
Jordan
Broad
Anderson
Tredwell

Rubbish lineup. Only six batsmen? Really?

Ballance, Taylor and Root in the top four is as bad as Shehzad, Younis and Shafiq in the top four. Fact of the matter is, Ali is a crucial part of this English lineup, whether you like it or not.

Taylor is definitely expendable though. If you do want someone who can stop the flow of wickets, drop Taylor and keep Ballance at #3.

 

[Ikball]

In Australia there's not much use for his spin. If he can't bat well, that is.

Ballance
Bell
Taylor
Root
Morgan
Butler
Woakes
Jordan
Broad
Anderson
Tredwell

I think he has been included as an allrounder, so he has no competition with Morgan or Joe. Whether he is successful or not.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Not a bit over but when someone talk about cousin marriage, it disgusts me (no offense to anyone), There is a reason cousin marriage is banned european nations!

Personally don't prefer it.

But cousins are legal to marry and especially if you are not close to them as brother and sister (it's entirely possible) I don't find why it should be considered disgusting.

Incest is way over term for it. If they were "actually brothers and sisters" they would be not "Mehram" and that's why it's not banned in religion as well.

My view..

What if you love your cousin who you don't meet that often, once every 3-4 years or even less, and you want to spend your time and life with her?

Incest much?

I wouldn't think so.

Just because you personally might be close to your cousins, doesn't mean everyone is that way

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Rubbish lineup. Only six batsmen? Really?

Ballance, Taylor and Root in the top four is as bad as Shehzad, Younis and Shafiq in the top four. Fact of the matter is, Ali is a crucial part of this English lineup, whether you like it or not.

Taylor is definitely expendable though. If you do want someone who can stop the flow of wickets, drop Taylor and keep Ballance at #3.

Woakes, Jordan and Broad are better than YK as batsmen.

so technically that's 3 all rounders.

What else do you want?

8 batsmen ?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

LOL. When Shehzad does this, you guys criticize him to no end and now Taylor playing an innings that Younis would be ashamed of is no big deal. Like I said, he doesn't stop the flow of wickets either and gets out after derailing any momentum that the openers put up.

Moeen Ali is a far better batsman than him.



Everything revolves around Moeen Ali in this English side, apparently.

Shehzad comes up the order and stalls a chase.

66-4 you are not chasing it and if you play down the order, you should be a dasher not a batsmen like Taylor.

If Taylor comes at 3 and stalls a chase, then he can be criticized.

I don't think he will stall a chase like Shehzad though.

 

[Ottoman]

So, how much ENG have to score here to achieve moral victory over AUS.

 

[Ottoman]

I guess 250.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Lol Taylor looking best batsmen after Bell and some people want to remove him and give "Bhai" more chances...

 

[Bilal7]

Woakes, Jordan and Broad are better than YK as batsmen.

so technically that's 3 all rounders.

What else do you want?

8 batsmen ?

What the hell? Lol. So you justify playing 6 batsmen because Broad might hit a few fours at the death? Right.

It is painfully obvious that one of Moeen or Bopara will play every single match in the English WC campaign. That give you 7 batsmen and 5 bowlers.

Shehzad comes up the order and stalls a chase.

66-4 you are not chasing it and if you play down the order, you should be a dasher not a batsmen like Taylor.

If Taylor comes at 3 and stalls a chase, then he can be criticized.

I don't think he will stall a chase like Shehzad though.

His SR was 70 before this game and apart from one or two innnigs, he usually strikes in the 60s. He isn't suited for the shorter formats at all.

 

[DarkKnightRisesAgain]

Personally don't prefer it.

But cousins are legal to marry and especially if you are not close to them as brother and sister (it's entirely possible) I don't find why it should be considered disgusting.

Incest is way over term for it. If they were "actually brothers and sisters" they would be not "Mehram" and that's why it's not banned in religion as well.

My view..

What if you love your cousin who you don't meet that often, once every 3-4 years or even less, and you want to spend your time and life with her?

Incest much?

I wouldn't think so.

Just because you personally might be close to your cousins, doesn't mean everyone is that way

Actually I am not that close to my cousins, last time I went there was 5 years ago but just wanna emphasize my point from scientific point of view and no one would understand it better than you. Forget about religion, Religion has a history of twisting things up but this isn't the place to talk about it.

 

[Firebreaker]

Woakes is a better batsmen than YK

 

[leatherface58]

Whats this "bhai" crap? It's so damn cringeworthy lmao. Like wth, is that supposed to be funny?

Pls mention them by their names fgs

Respect brah!

Bhai means brother right?

 

[Bilal7]

Lol Taylor looking best batsmen after Bell and some people want to remove him and give "Bhai" more chances...

You're making no sense whatsoever. The chase is dead and all Taylor is doing is making gullible people like you think that he is "the best batsman after Bell". The other guys were more concerned with winning England the game.

Plus, enough with this Taylor vs Moeen stuff. They are not in competition with each other.

 

[NZcricketfan]

If there is one cricketer who looks like he belongs in the shire it is james taylor

 

[Mamoon]

Isn't it awkward to marry your cousin? I mean you have the same blood lines and medical science proves that the closer the generation gaps, the more probability of mental disorders in off springs between the couples, Just saying!

Not in second cousins.

Marrying first cousin is gross, second cousin isn't. Especially when grew up without interacting with her at any level.

 

[Bilal7]

Chris Woakes scoring 30 in quick time and Taylor finally breaking free of the shackles is supposed to be note-worthy.

 

[Mamoon]

Respect brah!

Bhai means brother right?

Indeed.

 

[Mamoon]

LOL at bhai better than Taylor.

Taylor is fantastic batsman who will be world class once he finds his feet at this level. He's in a different league to hack at has been at every level of cricket and there is no reason why it'll be different at the top level.

 

[leatherface58]

You're making no sense whatsoever. The chase is dead and all Taylor is doing is making gullible people like you think that he is "the best batsman after Bell". The other guys were more concerned with winning England the game.

Plus, enough with this Taylor vs Moeen stuff. They are not in competition with each other.

Taylor came when the team was in the pits. He couldn't just start slogging from ball 1. That's Moeen bhai's job and he failed miserably as he will against pace bowling of respectable standard with that patchwork quilt of a technique.

But now, he has gotten used to the pitch's bounce and pace and with a good partner in Woakes, he has raised his own SR. Kind of like Misbah. Besides, England were behind in this game the moment they conceded 320+ and lost it when the top order folded. Taylor is ensuring they atleast don't lose horribly because this is a group game and if it comes to RR, you don't want a huge loss against you.

 

[DarkKnightRisesAgain]

Not in second cousins.

Marrying first cousin is gross, second cousin isn't. Especially when grew up without interacting with her at any level.

but you still share your family blood lines with her not close but still the chance of a recurring mental deformity in your off springs still exist to a lesser extent but still it does which make it controversial in modern society.

 

[Bilal7]

Taylor came when the team was in the pits. He couldn't just start slogging from ball 1. That's Moeen bhai's job and he failed miserably as he will against pace bowling of respectable standard with that patchwork quilt of a technique.

But now, he has gotten used to the pitch's bounce and pace and with a good partner in Woakes, he has raised his own SR. Kind of like Misbah. Besides, England were behind in this game the moment they conceded 320+ and lost it when the top order folded. Taylor is ensuring they atleast don't lose horribly because this is a group game and if it comes to RR, you don't want a huge loss against you.

There is no justification for him striking at a rate in the 20's after playing several deliveries. If he is going to take 20+ balls to get used to the pace of the pitch than he has no place in a LOI team, like I have said. World Class players get settled by taking singles and knocking it around instead of completely killing the chase and waiting until the opposition get bored and the new ball shine rubs off before opening up.

If England are worrying about the RR in the first game itself, then there is something horribly wrong with their management. Misbah will never have a SR under 50 after playing 30 balls while chasing a target in excess of 300.

 

[saeedhk]

This game reminds me Pak-India game tomorrow.With Pakistan being England.

 

[Ottoman]

Power play on now. Can England show some guts here.

 

[Red Devil]

Respect brah!

Bhai means brother right?

Yeah it means brother. I know it's supposed to be a joke of some sort, but whatever it is, it has run its course and it's lame as hell

 

[Firebreaker]

What a shot for :6

 

[Mr Consistent]

fifty for tylor

 

[Ikball]

Not in second cousins.

Marrying first cousin is gross, second cousin isn't. Especially when grew up without interacting with her at any level.

What is first cousin and second cousin Mamoon bhai?

 

[raskolnikov]

but you still share your family blood lines with her not close but still the chance of a recurring mental deformity in your off springs still exist to a lesser extent but still it does which make it controversial in modern society.

im more than 200% sure if any sane person born and grow up in pakistani society they will go mental for sure.

 

[Aman]

This is actually do-able?

 

[Firebreaker]

What a shot again SIX!

 

[zabalestmsm]

Come on James Taylor! Fantastic innings so far!

 

[Firebreaker]

What is first cousin and second cousin Mamoon bhai?

First cousin is children of uncles and aunt and second cousin is the children of your parents cousin

 

[leatherface58]

There is no justification for him striking at a rate in the 20's after playing several deliveries. If he is going to take 20+ balls to get used to the pace of the pitch than he has no place in a LOI team, like I have said. World Class players get settled by taking singles and knocking it around instead of completely killing the chase and waiting until the opposition get bored and the new ball shine rubs off before opening up.

If England are worrying about the RR in the first game itself, then there is something horribly wrong with their management. Misbah will never have a SR under 50 after playing 30 balls while chasing a target in excess of 300.

Yep he was a bit too slow. But now his SR is almost 100. He is set now and is getting the runs. Pretty sure if he bats for the next 10 overs, the SR will go up further. He is the only one out there putting up a fight unlike the other useless bats who just came to say hi.

Yet again on PP, the guy who is scoring is getting whiplashed and the failures are getting canonized for brainlessly flailing at thin air.

 

[Electron]

MJ !!!

 

[NZcricketfan]

England should play for net run rate.
most of the quarter final opposition are not that deadly other than south africa

 

[Firebreaker]

Woakes gone

 

[Ikball]

First cousin is children of uncles and aunt and second cousin is the children of your parents cousin

Thanks dear. I always got confused whats this 1st and 2nd cousin.

 

[Ikball]

Why people are calling Taylor short? is not he 5ft 6 inch. Thats average height.

 

[Bilal7]

Yep he was a bit too slow. But now his SR is almost 100. He is set now and is getting the runs. Pretty sure if he bats for the next 10 overs, the SR will go up further. He is the only one out there putting up a fight unlike the other useless bats who just came to say hi.

Yet again on PP, the guy who is scoring is getting whiplashed and the failures are getting canonized for brainlessly flailing at thin air.

You don't seem to realize the context behind any of this. If Taylor had batted at a SR of 80-85 from the start and then gradually upped the ante, England would actually have a chance of winning this. Even if he starts scoring at a SR of 120, it is going to do absolutely nothing for the team and will only succeed in making himself look good.

Don't know what you're talking about with your last statement. The Moeen Ali thread was bumped when he got out trying to win the game but the criticism has died off after seeing what all the other guys have come up with.

 

[Firebreaker]

Taylor owning Johnson