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Predict the outcome of the 1st Test between Australia and Pakistan

Predict the outcome of the 1st Test between Australia and Pakistan

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Only 1 genuine, established seamer for red ball cricket

Mir Hamza should have played instead of Khurram at least
 
Not playing a specialist spinner is fine but then you have to play 4 specialist quicks.

Not 2 allrounders.

This is very risky.

Pakistan made a selection blunder by not selecting Ali Shafique in the squad.

The batting is as good as Pakistan have available with the exception of maybe Rizwan ahead of Sarfraz .

Jamal was going at 3.4 on a slow pitch against PM XI without a single wicket.

Faheem offers very little wicket taking threat too.

Your 4 pronged pace attack (if that was the desired combination), needed

Shaheen
Khurram
Ali Shafique
Md. Wasim Jnr/Mohammad Ali

This would have been Pakistan's best long format attack especially for the tracks in OZ because between them they have enough accuracy , bounce, movement and pace.

Mind you, they still couldve been smashed like a minnow attack.


But the attack Pakistan plays tomorrow does not even look First Class level to be honest .
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Not playing a specialist spinner is fine but then you have to play 4 specialist quicks.

Not 2 allrounders.

This is very risky.

Pakistan made a selection blunder by not selecting Ali Shafique in the squad.

The batting is as good as Pakistan have available with the exception of maybe Rizwan ahead of Sarfraz .

Jamal was going at 3.4 on a slow pitch against PM XI without a single wicket.

Faheem offers very little wicket taking threat too.

Your 4 pronged pace attack (if that was the desired combination), needed

Shaheen
Khurram
Ali Shafique
Md. Wasim Jnr/Mohammad Ali

This would have been Pakistan's best long format attack especially for the tracks in OZ because between them they have enough accuracy , bounce, movement and pace.

Mind you, they still couldve been smashed like a minnow attack.


But the attack Pakistan plays tomorrow does not even look First Class level to be honest .
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Ali Shafique ?

Have you seen him bowl? He bowls like a part timer.

Mohd Ali is a good shout though. Talented bowler discarded too soon.
 
Marooned said:
Ali Shafique ?

Have you seen him bowl? He bowls like a part timer.

Mohd Ali is a good shout though. Talented bowler discarded too soon.
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Sorry I'm not sure of the name . There was another young seamer who looked decent in long format.

Maybe it's someone else
 
Ali Active said:
Everyone who thinks hassan ali will be useful in perth is delusional he will get murdered by warner and company
considering we have no hopes in bowling might as well extend the batting
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Exactly, where's this sudden support for Hasan Ali come from ? His international form across formats has been dismal for last few years.
 
MenInG said:
Pakistan playing XI for first Test of Benaud-Qadir Trophy

Aamir Jamal and Khurram Shahzad are set to make their Test debut for Pakistan

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waseem jr should of been selected over khurram we need pace at perrth.
khurram will struggle.
Big mistake was not taking Dahani. He is a wicket taker.
 
I would only turn up to watch Pakistan's batting otherwise it will be a torture.
 
waseem jr should of been selected over khurram we need pace at perth and he's capable of getting wickets in clusters and clearing up the tail.
khurram will struggle.
Big mistake was not taking Dahani. He is a wicket taker.
 
Either management expects a flatter pitch and are looking for a draw.
Or the pitch is a good one for pacers and they have read it right by playing an extra batter instead of a spinner.
 
Pakistan I think have only 3-4 wins in Australia. The captains who have won there are Mushtaq Mohammed, Javed Miandad and Wasim Akram; Mohammad Yousuf should have been added to this list in 2010.

The ceiling isn’t high for Shan Masood but he will be expected to give Pakistan some sort of satisfaction given the long rope he has been given over the years.
 
Aamir Jammal was getting smashed to bits and was made to look like a novice in the Staffordshire league and now he is playing a Test down under.
 
Jamal AND Faheem over Wasim and Hasan (never thought I would be advocating Hasan's selection)? At Perth? Not that one expects sensible decisions from PCT but this is laughable. Do we really think we will be able to win or draw this game through defensive bowling because can't see any other justification for this XI. No way can this bowling lineup pick 10 Australian wickets unless Shaheen has a miraculous day or Khurram has some surprise in store. It will be a miracle if Jamal and Faheem manage 2 wickets between them conceding less than 200.
 
MenInG said:
Pakistan playing XI for first Test of Benaud-Qadir Trophy

Aamir Jamal and Khurram Shahzad are set to make their Test debut for Pakistan

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Horrendous line up. No frontline spinner is an absolute disaster . Lot of visiting teams make the mistake of not picking a spinner at perth and get hammered. No spinner outs more strain on the pacers and Shaheen will be the casualty as he will be over bowled. Just 3.5 bowling unit against aus - that's carnage waiting to happen. And 2 debutants to boot. What is pak thinking? Also - cant believe there are no better spinners than noman ali or sajid Khan in pak domestic circuit
 
i wouldve liked to have seen wasim or hamza in this bowling line up. As for everyone asking for a spinner, they only intended to play Abrar, no way Nauman or Sajid were getting a game in perth.
 
deltexas said:
Horrendous line up. No frontline spinner is an absolute disaster . Lot of visiting teams make the mistake of not picking a spinner at perth and get hammered. No spinner outs more strain on the pacers and Shaheen will be the casualty as he will be over bowled. Just 3.5 bowling unit against aus - that's carnage waiting to happen. And 2 debutants to boot. What is pak thinking? Also - cant believe there are no better spinners than noman ali or sajid Khan in pak domestic circuit
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As per Shan Masood’s shrewd analysis, this is the way to go, lets see how things pan out tomorow and then we can all get together to bash him if the tactics fail.
 
History shows us that every herculean task looks impossible at first, what you need to do is break up the task into smaller goals which can be achieved.

Pakistan need to aim to bat out the first 20-30 overs losing 2 wickets max. Be 70-2 at lunch, then cut loose and go all out attack and hope to score 350+.

Then pray and hope that you get usman and warner out early whilst bowling, and somehow take the match into the 4th innings.
 
Pakistan does not have the bowling to bowl out Australia twice in 5 days. So absolutely no chance of Pakistan winning any Test.

The best Pakistan can do is to make the match more competitive. Perhaps Shaheen can discover his old self and bowl a fiery opening spell and put Australia under pressure.
 
Sycamore said:
History shows us that every herculean task looks impossible at first, what you need to do is break up the task into smaller goals which can be achieved.

Pakistan need to aim to bat out the first 20-30 overs losing 2 wickets max. Be 70-2 at lunch, then cut loose and go all out attack and hope to score 350+.

Then pray and hope that you get usman and warner out early whilst bowling, and somehow take the match into the 4th innings.
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Nikhil_cric said:
Not playing a specialist spinner is fine but then you have to play 4 specialist quicks.

Not 2 allrounders.

This is very risky.

Pakistan made a selection blunder by not selecting Ali Shafique in the squad.

The batting is as good as Pakistan have available with the exception of maybe Rizwan ahead of Sarfraz .

Jamal was going at 3.4 on a slow pitch against PM XI without a single wicket.

Faheem offers very little wicket taking threat too.

Your 4 pronged pace attack (if that was the desired combination), needed

Shaheen
Khurram
Ali Shafique
Md. Wasim Jnr/Mohammad Ali

This would have been Pakistan's best long format attack especially for the tracks in OZ because between them they have enough accuracy , bounce, movement and pace.

Mind you, they still couldve been smashed like a minnow attack.


But the attack Pakistan plays tomorrow does not even look First Class level to be honest .
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The playing 11 announced is very defensive with Faheem as the 4th bowling option , he could have been the 5th besides 4 bowlers . This 11 means Faheem & Agha will be bowling 30 overs in a day & around 40 will be bowled by the 2 debutants . Very tough to see them restricting hosts to under 400 unless pitch is real juicy !
 
I wish Pakistan's bowling attack was not filled with newbies. I think the last time it was the same story in Aus. It's kind of hard to adjust for bowlers without experience in Aus.

Hopefully, Aus is 4-5 down in first session. That may make the game interesting.
 
One can gauge the level of talent available in Pakistan as two specialist spinners are benched, and the pace attack does not exist its SSA the only established bowler in this side,
 
Hopefully common sense prevails and one of Waseem or Hassan slots in for one of the all rounders
 
What's the point of having an experienced player like Hasan Ali if you are not giving him game, he should start the 1st game and then you can judge him. Hopefully team Director will have something solid reason for picking the newbies
 
Xoib said:
Hopefully common sense prevails and one of Waseem or Hassan slots in for one of the all rounders
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Waseem, Hasan, Faheem
, Jamal all have the same pedigree as far as I am concerned.

What we really needed was a proper spinner.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I am predicting 3-0 to Pakistan.

Australia is old.

Pakistan is new and doesn't have scarred players.
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That is the only hope for Pakistan. All of Aus players are old. Some are nearing 40's and many have past their prime years.

But Aus players are still very strong in their home conditions. Even at their ripe old age, they are still more than good enough to beat Pakistan comfortably.
 
Human786 said:
What pace do these 2 debutants bowl at ?
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I never saw these new guys bowl. So cannot comment on them. But Hasan Ali is not suitable for Australian pitches. It will be like selecting Vinay Kumar and hoping for the best.
 
With the predicted bounce on Perth pitch where spinner like Nathan Lyon even likes bowling.

Why couldn't Pakistan have picked a 6'4 guy Usama Mir as a spinner. Who played FC season to get his resurgence and extracts natural bounce as well?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Pakistan team is using a slab of marble in the nets. Mohammad Rizwan had it tilted on angle. They hope it will help them deal with Perth’s extra bounce and pace.
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I remember the former coach Bob Willis used hard marble small pitches to get the Pak Players used to pace and bound, but cant remember what series it was for, but at the time he was criticised for thinking of ways to help Pak face pace, he was ahead of the game but Bob Willis was before his time.
Still I wonder if you guys know any thing about his death.
He would of improved them defently.
 
shaz619 said:
Aamir Jammal was getting smashed to bits and was made to look like a novice in the Staffordshire league and now he is playing a Test down under.
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He comes from the good English speaking cult from Lahore/Punjab, that is the criteria for his selection.

Hafeez, Wahab, Kamran , Salman butt and who else the punjab cult is on full flow here. I would be surprised if he could take a wicket or two in this test.

Mir Hamza and Hasan Ali has more experience than this stupid Jamal
Atleast Wasim Jr who was lethal with the old ball and reverse swing in the ODIs even we saw that in CWC
 
If they are scared of not taking Noman Ali as a spinner in the 11 why was he selected in the squad.

Why need to call Sajid khan if they are not gonna play any spinner and jus wait for second test to play Abrar

Ridiculous Hafeez , always entertaining this PCB bunch.
 
Rizwan can easily play as a specialist batsman; I don't know why he wasn't considered. What's the use of Agha Salman? Additionally, I'm puzzled about the selection of Aamer Jamal and Khurram Shehzad, both of whom average 30 in First-Class cricket with the ball. It's an absolutely ridiculous selection from a chief selector who seems to be making questionable decisions. I won't be surprised if Australia scores 1000 runs in one innings. Moreover, Shan Masood, as a batsman, doesn't deserve to be in the playing XI, let alone captaining the side. This is, without a doubt, the worst Test playing XI in our Test cricket history.
 
Mercurial said:
Rizwan can easily play as a specialist batsman; I don't know why he wasn't considered. What's the use of Agha Salman? Additionally, I'm puzzled about the selection of Aamer Jamal and Khurram Shehzad, both of whom average 30 in First-Class cricket with the ball. It's an absolutely ridiculous selection from a chief selector who seems to be making questionable decisions. I won't be surprised if Australia scores 1000 runs in one innings. Moreover, Shan Masood, as a batsman, doesn't deserve to be in the playing XI, let alone captaining the side. This is, without a doubt, the worst Test playing XI in our Test cricket history.
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I could not find stats for Jamal but the other guy does avg 30 which is not very inspiring . One thing is certain , non Afridi peeps are going to bowl 70 overs a day & if 2 out of these have a bad day Aussies will score over 4 rpo easily which means getting 600 in 150 overs even if spread over more than a single inning leaving sufficient overs for them to get 20 wickets . Only thing of interest is what does Shan do if he wins toss , Aussies will probably bat if they win it .
 
Mercurial said:
Rizwan can easily play as a specialist batsman; I don't know why he wasn't considered. What's the use of Agha Salman? Additionally, I'm puzzled about the selection of Aamer Jamal and Khurram Shehzad, both of whom average 30 in First-Class cricket with the ball. It's an absolutely ridiculous selection from a chief selector who seems to be making questionable decisions. I won't be surprised if Australia scores 1000 runs in one innings. Moreover, Shan Masood, as a batsman, doesn't deserve to be in the playing XI, let alone captaining the side. This is, without a doubt, the worst Test playing XI in our Test cricket history.
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Salman has been picked above Rizwan because of his bowling. Team clearly knows they can't go with just 4 pacers. Can't expect every of your pacer bowling 50-60 overs in one match.
 
This playing xi is a very defensive move

Seems like this team is defeated before a ball has been bowled.
 
Rana said:
Has anyone got that Akshay Kumar meme where he shows disappointment but is secretly happy? I would like to use that for Rizwan not getting picked ahead of Sarfaraz
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Curious to know if any particular reason which makes you a huge Bollywood fan?

I believe one in ten posts of yours are bollywood related, either movies or their stars, I think you had a Akshay avatar too?
 
Rana said:
Oh no Rizwan is not selected lol
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dont laugh yet. Remember when Sarfraz got concussed and out came Rizwan? You were foaming and whining on here and wanted some batter to keep wickets.
 
Don’t know why they completely ignored Mohammad Ali for this tour. He looked ok on debut and I think would have done well in these conditions. Quicker than you think, experienced, and can hold down an end.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Salman has been picked above Rizwan because of his bowling. Team clearly knows they can't go with just 4 pacers. Can't expect every of your pacer bowling 50-60 overs in one match.
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They could have gone with Nauman Ali as the specialist spinner instead. It's a questionable decision to rely on Agha Salman as a spinner; giving him 22 overs is sufficient reason to consider replacing Shan Masood after this Test match.
 
Mercurial said:
They could have gone with Nauman Ali as the specialist spinner instead. It's a questionable decision to rely on Agha Salman as a spinner; giving him 22 overs is sufficient reason to consider replacing Shan Masood after this Test match.
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They clearly went with Salman not because he's a better bowler than Noman but because he can bat also. Sajid Ali was also called up when Abrar was declared unfit.

Lets see how the Test match plays out. Only 1 Day of play has been completed.
 
Fans expecting too much from this team, they tried hard to put 391 against the Prime Ministers IX with the help of Shan's 200 ,

there be no expectation for them to cross 300 mark against the full strength Aus side
 
Chip32 said:
Don’t know why they completely ignored Mohammad Ali for this tour. He looked ok on debut and I think would have done well in these conditions. Quicker than you think, experienced, and can hold down an end.
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Seriously.....

Quicker ? really ? can hold down an end really ?

He is like one of those old uncle playing domestic cricket at the age of 40+ , because he has no job to do... With his fitness he wouldnt last 5 days of test bowling against quality opposition like Aus...
 
1 good thing here was Pak able to last 100 overs in the first inns... but as usual with the snail pace batting 100 runs short.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Seriously.....

Quicker ? really ? can hold down an end really ?

He is like one of those old uncle playing domestic cricket at the age of 40+ , because he has no job to do... With his fitness he wouldnt last 5 days of test bowling against quality opposition like Aus...
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Are you dense? He’s literally known in the domestic circuit for his ability to hold down an end and bowl long spells.

And from the brief bits I saw of him against ENG he was consistently 134-138 KPH and crossed 140 a couple of times
 
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