Australia vs India | 1st Test | Perth | November 22 | Pre-Match Discussion

[mominsaigol]

WTC is a one off game which is a farce. Ask any player in the world, they would prefer to win a series against or in Australia over one WTC final match.

Infact, WTC finals has to be the least prestigious ICC trophies as it has no story or meaning. It is equivalent to UEFA Nations league

50 over WC > T20 WC > Champions Trophy > WTC - in that order

#FACTS
#RajdeepSpeaks

Had India won it, your narrative would be different. We both know that

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No you don't get it.

This series need to flop with Kohli scoring next to ZERO runs, if India wins this series or if Kohli scores decent amount then he will stick around in the test side for another 2-3 years taking up spot of a young kid..

If he is playing, scores big and then you win the series then whats the issue?

 

[kron]

Please stay on topic and talk about game.

Not a thread for discussing racism.

That's a racist thing to say.
Jokes.

Have a good day

 

[kron]

Had India won it, your narrative would be different. We both know that

No way bro. For me we already lost. Even if we beat Aussies and win wtc. Doesn't mean squat. We lost at HOME EMBARASSINGLY to nz. Unpardonable. Unforgivable.

I would 10000% times win series away and at home than random one off wtc final.

 

[Rajdeep]

Pumped up for this tour

 

[Devadwal]

If he is playing, scores big and then you win the series then whats the issue?

We have some delusion fans also .

 

[Red-Indian]

No way bro. For me we already lost. Even if we beat Aussies and win wtc. Doesn't mean squat. We lost at HOME EMBARASSINGLY to nz. Unpardonable. Unforgivable.

I would 10000% times win series away and at home than random one off wtc final.

100% agreed. It's been utterly humiliating to lose at home to New Zealand. I have PTSD thinking about it and could barely read sports news or post in cricket forums.

Losing the WTC was barely a pinprick.

 

[Devadwal]

Pumped up for this tour

I have not yet seen any series whose hype has been more than 2024-24 border Gawaskar Series.

Can we perform as per its expectations? I don't think so .

 

[kron]

100% agreed. It's been utterly humiliating to lose at home to New Zealand. I have PTSD thinking about it and could barely read sports news or post in cricket forums.

Losing the WTC was barely a pinprick.

We shouldn't even bother with wtc final..do you remember jow they treated it last 2 times ?

Right after ipl
No practice games
No tour games. Just dived straight into a wtc final match. No prep. Tired legs.

Might as well not play.

 

[followed]

Indians should be proud. After all cows are sacred to them.

Got him. Hahahah.

 

[BouncerGuy]

India confidence 'damaged' as Rohit, Gill doubts swirl

Australia remain wary of a visiting side that could be without two of their top-three bats for the first Test

Marnus Labuschagne believes India's confidence has been dented by their shock recent series defeat to New Zealand, as the visitors content with replacing up to three first-choice players for the first Border-Gavaskar Trophy Test.

India on Tuesday got their first look at the cavernous Perth Stadium since arriving in the Western Australia capital in a training hit-out that was notable as much for who did not participate as who did.

With captain Rohit Sharma yet to join the squad and appearing certain to miss the series opener, Shubman Gill remained absent after suffering a suspected thumb fracture at fielding practice on Saturday.

The loss of both would rob India of two of their incumbent top-three batters against the vaunted Australian bowling attack and on a ground where the hosts have never lost a Test.

Australia know too well not to make light of a depleted Indian touring party given the remarkable series win they pulled off on these shores in 2020-21. But Labuschagne suggested their first home Test series loss in 12 years will have been a considerable blow.

"It's really hard to judge. They played in completely different conditions, spinning conditions (against NZ), but having India come here off the back of a loss at home is something that's never happened before (in his career)," Labuschagne told reporters.

"I think that's a good thing in terms of they're probably a little bit lower on confidence, not coming off a Test victory, losing to New Zealand 3-0.

"I think that's going to do a little bit of damage to their confidence.

"But they're a quality line-up and they're one of the best teams in the world. So you can never underestimate a team like that."

The sight of KL Rahul and Devdutt Padikkal entering the Perth Stadium nets as the first two Indian batters to begin India’s net session indicates that duo is in the frame to fill the opener and first-drop spots respectively if Rohit and Gill are unavailable.

Rahul showed no ill-effects from the knock to the elbow he copped during a centre-wicket practice session at the WACA Ground last week.

Padikkal batted in an adjoining net, while back-up keeper Dhruv Jurel was also in the main batting group alongside the likes of Virat Kohli, Yashasvi Jaiswal and Rishabh Pant. Their hits were cut short by late-morning rain.

Opener Abhimanyu Easwaran, who unlike Padikkal was in India's originally named Test squad, did not bat with that main group.

Padikkal, the wiry left-hander who has stayed back after India A tour but is not part of the listed India Test squad, and 53-Test veteran Rahul had earlier taken extensive turns in slips-catching practice on the main arena.

Jurel, flown to Australia early along with Rahul to play against Australia A at the MCG, impressed his opponents with scores of 68 and 80, soaking up more than 300 balls on a pitch that offered significant seam movement all match.

"Even though he’s a wicketkeeper, from what I’ve seen on this tour and from India’s batting in the last couple of months, I’d be staggered if he doesn’t play (in the Test series)," former Test captain Tim Paine, an assistant coach for Australia A, told SEN recently.

"He scored one of the more polished 80s I’ve seen, and we were all sitting around as staff of Cricket Australia and thought, 'Wow, this guy can seriously play'."

Jurel has previously only played three Tests as a keeper at Test level, filling in when Pant was injured, but could be considered if speculation in the Indian press that selectors are looking to replace Sarfraz Khan is correct.

On the bowling front, India will need to make a call on whether to play both Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja, or play four seamers along with Jadeja. Mohammad Shami made an encouraging return to cricket after a year-long injury battle but remains out of the frame for now.

The BCCI has not formally ruled out Rohit or Gill for the first Test, and the Indian team have yet to front a press conference since arriving in the country.

Labuschagne, who scored a first-innings century in the famous 2021 Gabba Test in which the Ajinkya Rahane-captained side pulled off an improbable series victory in Australia, has a long memory when it comes to Indian Test teams with a mounting injury toll.

"That's what happened in 2021 – the likes of (T) Natarajan played, (Mohammad) Siraj got his first crack in Australia, Washington Sundar played," said the Queenslander.

"They had all these guys that were probably a little bit new – Shubman played those couple of games (in the 2020-21 series) – so there were new faces around.

"But they're a quality lineup and they've showed that over a period of time. You can't ever underestimate the depth of Indian cricket.

"Anyone that's gets the opportunity to play for India have had to do a lot of hard work and find their way into that site … to actually play for a team like that, you have to be a very good player."

SOURCE: https://www.cricket.com.au/news/4171285?s=08

 

[kron]

I have not yet seen any series whose hype has been more than 2024-24 border Gawaskar Series.

Can we perform as per its expectations? I don't think so .

Sadly I am not confident. Until we get rid of kohli rohit and kl we will lose badly.
Their time is over

3-1 aus. Final prediction.

 

[Vikram1989]

If he is playing, scores big and then you win the series then whats the issue?

That will be last straw for any kind of recovery for Indian cricket team in both formats till 27 wc.Not only kohli,it applies for rohit,kl too.all of these are leaches and will rip the team future with out any option for future backups .They should have long gone from odis .They should have left voluntarily or discarded by selection committee after nz embarassment .

 

[Red-Indian]

We shouldn't even bother with wtc final..do you remember jow they treated it last 2 times ?

Right after ipl
No practice games
No tour games. Just dived straight into a wtc final match. No prep. Tired legs.

Might as well not play.

Yes fair point. To be fair, I think the BCCI invests time based on public interest and there just wasn't enough interest to justify a proper buildup.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

oh ok!

but there was an Aura of that ground specially in Test cricket when pitch get cracked up on day 3 onwards it becomes hell for a batsman to play.

Yep the name itself was quite cool, the new stadium name and pitch appears meek and dull in comparison.

 

[Devadwal]

This picture will tell you that what is Likely playing eleven .

1st: Devdutt Padikkal
2nd: Virat Kohli
3rd: KL Rahul
4th Yashasvi Jaiswal

Gully: Dhruv Jurel

 

[batandballbattle]

They should go with Earsawan and Jurel but will probably pick Padikkal and KL

 

[RehanG]

should be a 3 at max 3,5 day match.

 

[Vikram1989]

They should go with Earsawan and Jurel but will probably pick Padikkal and KL

Jurel at 6. KL at 1 and padikkal at 3.Easwaran don't have offside game. He is one more sarfaraz/kamran.cant play bounce.

 

[jnaveen1980]

There is one place Gill enjoys is Australia as the bonce is true where you can leave the ball on length.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Indian friends its 19 November, 1 year since epic drubbing. Time for Revenge now.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Indian friends its 19 November, 1 year since epic drubbing. Time for Revenge now.

Atleast Rohit got his revenge in T20. In Tests it is Australia that has to take revenge atleast according to Lyon.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

100% agreed. It's been utterly humiliating to lose at home to New Zealand. I have PTSD thinking about it and could barely read sports news or post in cricket forums.

Losing the WTC was barely a pinprick.

Agreed. Who cares about WTC final lol

Getting whitewashed at home by friggin New Zealand . World T20 final 2014, SF 2019,SF 2022, CT '17, 2023 Final were all bad.

But this was next level humiliation.

Biggest humiliation I've ever seen in all the time I've been an ICT fan.

The Hobbits have destroyed Mordor and the One Ring. Not sure I can follow our Test team anymore.

 

[ethan hunt]

Australian batting is pretty weak. India tho have problems of their own after getting whitewashed at home against Newzealand of all teams. Will be a fun series.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Australia to win this Test match

 

[JaDed]

Time for the forum to be active again as we are bound to lose here.

 

[JaDed]

Indian friends its 19 November, 1 year since epic drubbing. Time for Revenge now.

Epic drubbing is what US software engineers hand over not a 6 time world champion to another team.

 

[RexRex]

Time for the forum to be active again as we are bound to lose here.

Pak posters are getting ready to swarm all over these match threads for the next two months, I can feel it.

 

[JaDed]

Pak posters are getting ready to swarm all over these match threads for the next two months, I can feel it.

Yup they have definitely made sure it’s bigger than Ashes on this forum but wait for them to tell us otherwise lol

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Epic drubbing is what US software engineers hand over not a 6 time world champion to another team.

Don't want to derail the thread but many clowns in your media were already calling it a done deal that day only to hide themselves later

 

[Hitman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858649121365913723

 

[jnaveen1980]

Don't want to derail the thread but many clowns in your media were already calling it a done deal that day only to hide themselves later

Many Pakistan fans said the same as India trounced 10 teams on the bounce and Australia was at the bottom of the table at one point and they were in danger of first round exit as well. They lucked out against Afghanistan, NZ and even Pakistan to some extent

 

[kron]

Jaiswal
Sudarshan
Paddikal
kohli
Pant
Sundar
Jurel
Harshit
Akashdeep
Bumrah
Prasidh

This should be the team tbh. We are missing shami, Gill.

I think this team can win.

 

[kron]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858649121365913723

This is their new technique. Hype and flatter the opposition key players. This will soften them up for the actual series and subequently lead to under performance.

Bumrah is lethal yes but Oz going overboard with the praise.

 

[kron]

Don't want to derail the thread but many clowns in your media were already calling it a done deal that day only to hide themselves later

India dint have pandya, pant or jaiswal

Pant is an Oz killer. Pandya too. So they dint beat full strength india in The final.

It'd like aus without head

And siraj should have never played. We could have easily played a better bowler.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India dint have pandya, pant or jaiswal

Pant is an Oz killer. Pandya too. So they dint beat full strength india in The final.

It'd like aus without head

You guys have Pant, Bumrah, Kohli, Rohit later and what not now. Except Shami no big name name is missing in this BGT. So let's see how this journey turns out for this side

 

[jnaveen1980]

India dint have pandya, pant or jaiswal

Pant is an Oz killer. Pandya too. So they dint beat full strength india in The final.

It'd like aus without head

And siraj should have never played. We could have easily played a better bowler.

Also on that track biased pick of SKY cost us. Ashwin always does well against Australia in the world cups. He is their nemesis. India should have played him.

 

[kron]

You guys have Pant, Bumrah, Kohli, Rohit later and what not now. Except Shami no big name name is missing in this BGT. So let's see how this journey turns out for this side

But now all players in batting are washed up

We need to drop rohit kohli and kela. Then yes. Maybe we can draw. Or we may still lose and it's fine. We are in transition.

You do realize johli is 35. Indian age so more likely 38 lel
.same with rohit.

We need to blood in young players but then again they can fail too.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

But now all players in batting are washed up

We need to drop rohit kohli and kela. Then yes. Maybe we can draw. Or we may still lose and it's fine. We are in transition.

You do realize johli is 35. Indian age so more likely 38 lel
.same with rohit.

We need to blood in young players but then again they can fail too.

But better to fail with youngsters rather than washed up guys

 

[kron]

But better to fail with youngsters rather than washed up guys

But bcci don't have balls to drop these overpaid superstars. Pcb I respect them for the surgical action that was undertaken by dropping non performing stars.
I wish we had such people In our management.

 

[Bewal Express]

Looking at the awful Ageing and very average batting of the Aussies, it's India's series to lose. What can stop Ind winning is Pat Cummins and his bloody mindedness. On the other hand we have an ageing Ind batting lineup that is also struggling for form and confidence and up against a top Aussie bowling lineup.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

But better to fail with youngsters rather than washed up guys

Their youngesters are even more competitive compared to the oldies.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yup they have definitely made sure it’s bigger than Ashes on this forum but wait for them to tell us otherwise lol

It's a big series for sure.

There will be some gentle trolling but overall I think most Pakistanis want to see some solid test match cricket.

India have already accomplished something in Australia that we haven't so even if you lose 5-0 we can't say too much.

 

[batandballbattle]

Jurel at 6. KL at 1 and padikkal at 3.Easwaran don't have offside game. He is one more sarfaraz/kamran.cant play bounce.

New guys like Earsawan should be trusted over players like KL in and out of the side like yoyos. Also Sarfi should be persisted with for now, he has shown patches of his potential and dropping him within the year he debuted in seems harsh.

IMO XI should be:

Easwaran
Jaiswal
Kohli
Pant
Sarfaraz
Jurel
Sundar
Jadeja
Bumrah
Siraj/Krishna
Deep

Infact you can probably make allowance for Padi as well if you want one less AR.

 

[JaDed]

India have already accomplished something in Australia that we haven't so even if you lose 5-0 we can't say too much.

I would be disappointed if you don’t, as that’s what make things spicy!

Back and forth is what makes this forum fun to engage in, Indians and Pakistanis usually take it on chin, bangladeshis just adopt another team.

 

[kron]

New guys like Earsawan should be trusted over players like KL in and out of the side like yoyos. Also Sarfi should be persisted with for now, he has shown patches of his potential and dropping him within the year he debuted in seems harsh.

IMO XI should be:

Easwaran
Jaiswal
Kohli
Pant
Sarfaraz
Jurel
Sundar
Jadeja
Bumrah
Siraj/Krishna
Deep

Infact you can probably make allowance for Padi as well if you want one less AR.

Sarfraz won't survive vs bounce. Sorry shouldn't play. Rest agreed.
No to jadeja too. Rather harshit. He is very good.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australians are expecting some top cricket from India. They are going to be disappointed. They praise India brings the best cricket to Australia. But this time not going to be the case.

 

[Devadwal]

Is Mitchell Marsh fit to bowl ?

 

[Vikram1989]

Australians are expecting some top cricket from India. They are going to be disappointed. They praise India brings the best cricket to Australia. But this time not going to be the case.

I think they too know it but for all the hype and monetary benefits, they should sing the old tune

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think they too know it but for all the hype and monetary benefits, they should sing the old tune

Our guys like Harsha, Ravi are also fueling the narrative by saying things like "Australia always brings the best out of Kohli"

 

[BouncerGuy]

labu's likes perth so i am thinking about his century here. Kohli might fail here.

 

[Devadwal]

Fox Cricket Commentators for Border Gavaskar Trophy:

Shastri, Bhogle, Border, Gilchrist, Isa Guha, Mark Howard, Mike Hussey, Julian, Lee, Loughnan, Kerry O'Keefe, Vaughan, Warner and Mark Waugh.

 

[Devadwal]

Ravi Ashwin all set to play the first Test Match over sundar and Jadeja .

 

[Vikram1989]

Our guys like Harsha, Ravi are also fueling the narrative by saying things like "Australia always brings the best out of Kohli"

When does our guys criticised any superstar.they will let the course of action happens and keep minting money mean while

 

[Vikram1989]

Our guys like Harsha, Ravi are also fueling the narrative by saying things like "Australia always brings the best out of Kohli"

Last series all it brought a single century on flattest ahmedabad pitch

 

[BouncerGuy]

"No Point In Playing...": Sourav Ganguly's Straight Advice To Gautam Gambhir On India XI vs Australia

Shubman Gill's thumb fracture is certainly a "jolt" for India ahead of the series opener against Australia but former captain Sourav Ganguly firmly believes the team has the quality and mental fortitude to overcome the recent shock loss at home in the Border-Gavaskar Trophy starting in Perth from Friday. Gill, who has five hundreds in 29 Tests, had scored a fifty in Melbourne and a game-setting 91 at Brisbane in the two victories on the previous tour. He suffered a left thumb fracture while fielding in the intra-squad simulation between senior team and India A, ruling him out of the first Test.

"Shubman's injury is jolt for the team no doubt as he is an in-form batter and has scored in Australia. A thumb fracture could rule him out for two Tests.

"But I believe the other batters would step up in absence of Rohit (on paternity leave) and Shubman during the first Test. I don't think New Zealand defeat would have any bearing on this series," the former BCCI president told PTI in an interview ahead of the marquee series.

With Hardik Pandya not playing Test cricket anymore, India don't have too many genuine pace bowling all-rounders and while Nitish Kumar Reddy is still very raw, one of India's finest captains feels that the Andhra cricketer needs to be given chances in specific conditions.

"Look, there is absolutely no point in playing two specialist spinners either at Perth (Optus) or at the Gabba (Brisbane). You obviously need to find a way to play Reddy in these conditions. He is a good batsman and coming in at lower middle order, it will lend proper balance to the side," he gave his rationale for inclusion of a multi-skilled player.

Ganguly also felt that Mohammed Shami should have travelled to Adelaide and played the second Test starting December 6, which is a day/night game. Shami is not being fast-tracked immediately by the selectors, who want him to play in Syed Mushtaq Ali T20 tournament before taking a call on his travel Down Under.

"Shami bowled nearly 45 overs, fielded for more than 100 overs and also scored some runs. That's a good enough fitness test to be sent to Australia because you need a bowler of his calibre alongside Jasprit Bumrah."

Why are we talking about transition?

The talks over a possible transition post the shock loss to New Zealand has gained traction but the 51-year-old finds no merit in that argument.

"Transitions will happen when it has to happen. I think any player shouldn't be judged on basis of age. Form and fitness should be the only two criteria to judge a player."

If there are two batters that Ganguly is looking forward to seeing in the series, it is Virat Kohli and Rishabh Pant. "I have full confidence in Virat Kohli. He has been a proven performer and he will have a very good series. Kohli and second best Test batter in the current line-up Rishabh will be key. If these two can perform, India will have a good series," he said.

Don't think team is "under-cooked"

Ganguly also doesn't believe that the team is under-cooked in terms of facing Australia in a five-match series.

"Undercooked is a term used when you haven't played any Test cricket at all. They have just played five Tests in last seven weeks so how does the question even arise? I can understand that the defeat against New Zealand was unexpected but you have to understand we played on some extremely difficult tracks. In Australia, the tracks will be good for batting," Ganguly said.

But won't there be a mental impact of such debacle going into a high-profile against the Aussies? "I don't think so. But I must say that we need to get back to playing on good cricket pitches at home.

"We should stop this habit of playing on rank turners. The batsmen lose confidence on such tracks and we have a team which can win Test matches on good tracks.

"Also on turners, you need to learn to grind before you can attack. There are two types of tracks where you can't just hit through the line and get out of trouble. One is a seaming track and other being a rank turner."

NDTV

 

[Romali_rotti]

If he is playing, scores big and then you win the series then whats the issue?

Issue is it screws India up for the future with Kohli being in the test side for another 2 or 3 years due to his fluke Aus performance

 

[sindhiboy]

Harshit Rana has pretty impressive fc record as an all rounder albeit a very short career so his selection is justified.
Reddy's selection is a bait baffling, out of the bazball selection playbook of looking purely at attributes.

 

[Vikram1989]

Harshit Rana has pretty impressive fc record as an all rounder albeit a very short career so his selection is justified.
Reddy's selection is a bait baffling, out of the bazball selection playbook of looking purely at attributes.

It's damning evidence of pathetic batting line up where no one can be trusted.

 

[Devadwal]

Some notable stats from The Border-Gavaskar Trophy in 2020-21.

Before the Gabba Test, India bowlers had only 13 wickets between them while Australia had 1046. India’s all experience was: Siraj 7 wickets, Saini 4 and Rohit 2 – the lowest for them to start a Test match since Lord's 1946 when the combined sum of wickets was 5 (four by Lala Amarnath and 1 by CS Nayudu).

As it stands, Australia at home have won just 2 out of the last 10 Tests against India and only one out of the last 9 red-ball Tests dating back to the MCG in 2014. Australia’s only two wins in this sequence came in Perth in 2018 (day) and in Adelaide in 2020 (day/night).

In the last session at the Gabba, India needed 145 runs and Australia 7 wickets to win the series. The previous occasion when there was a Test series in Australia that reached the last scheduled day with the possibility of both teams winning the series was also in a Border-Gavaskar series in 2003-04.

India needed 50 runs off the last 8 overs at the Gabba – required rate of 6.25 with the bowling team allowed to put all the fielders at the boundary. The next two overs changed the game as India scored 26 runs (11 conceded by Pat Cummins and 15 by Nathan Lyon).

Remarkably, in the same Gabba chase, Cheteshwar Pujara scored a 50 off 196 balls, the slowest by any Indian in Tests in the last 39 years.

Pujara’s overall strike-rate in the series was just 29.20. He batted 928 balls without hitting a six.

Australia's previous defeat at the Gabba was in 1988. Rishabh Pant, who scored 89 not out in the 4th innings, was born 8 years after that.

Umpiring was top-notch at the Gabba. None of the on-field umpires’ 10 decisions was reversed on DRS. They also took good calls when they didn't stop the game during drizzle on couple of occasions on the last day. Any stoppage could have affected the outcome. When India finished the chase, just 3 more overs were left in the play.

The Gabba was the first time India scored 300plus runs on Day-5 to win a Test.

India became the first team in 26 years to win a Test series in Australia coming from behind.

Australia dropped 15 catches and India 13 in the series.

India used 20 players in the series.

Five India players debuted in the series – Siraj, Sundar, Gill, Saini, Natarajan.

Shubman Gill made his Test debut on the back of an average of 68.78 in first-class cricket, the highest FC average to earn Test cap for India since Vinod Kambli (88.37) made his debut in 1993.

Siraj lost his father during the tour but stayed in Australia and made his Test debut in Melbourne. By the time he played his 3rd Test in Brisbane, he was leading the Indian bowling attack and took a 5-wicket haul. He also had to fight against racism during the series.

In Sydney, India batted 9 hours and 40 minutes in the 4th innings. They played 131 overs, the longest they batted in 40 years to save the match.

Jasprit Bumrah has 11 wickets at an average of 9.63 in overs 81-95 (generally when the ball is new) in Tests in Australia.

During the series, Nathan Lyon became the first bowler in history to play 100 Tests without overstepping.

Steve Smith at MCG scored a duck after 52 Test innings and four years.

The second innings in Melbourne was the first time in the 21st century that Australia failed to reach 200 in 100 overs. They were 196-9 at the 100-over mark.

Ajinkya Rahane hit the winning runs at MCG for the first time in his Test career and scored his 12th Test century in that match too. India never lost a Test when he scored a 100.

Melbourne 2020 was the first time Rahane got run out in his Test career. That happened after 112 innings.

Australia dropped 7 catches in Melbourne.

Melbourne was the 100th Test between Australia and India.

India have won 4 Tests in Melbourne, the most for them at any away venue.

The Adelaide Test was the first time Virat Kohli lost the match after winning the toss. Of the 25 previous Tests, he had won 21 and drawn 4.

India against New Pink Balls in Adelaide (first 15 overs with the ball)
6-19
6-51
1-25

India were bowled out for 36, their lowest ever total in Tests. None of the batters reached a double figure. The highest score was 9 by Mayank Agarwal. Australia were so miser that day they didn’t concede even an extra.

If you have a thing for Numbers and Geographic knowledge, India's 36 is the lowest total in Tests by a team from Northern Hemisphere.

 

[Markhor]

Both batting lineups look ageing and vulnerable, reliant on 1-2 individuals for the bulk of the scoring.

With Australian Test pitches becoming spicier in the last 3 years, and this version of the Kookaburra ball, I'll be surprised if we don't see a low scoring series.

 

[Devadwal]

Pitch for the Perth test as of now . grass will be trimmed or remain the same?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pitch for the Perth test as of now . grass will be trimmed or remain the same?

View attachment 147867

Grass or no grass bounce will remain the same.

 

[Ahmed216]

Grass or no grass bounce will remain the same.

What is India's pace bowling attack likely to be for first test?

 

[Devadwal]

What is India's pace bowling attack likely to be for first test?

Most likely eleven or its already confirmed barring any injury.

Jais
KL
Padikkal
Virat
Pant
Jurel
Ash/ Jadeja
Nitish Reddy
Harshit rana
Siraj
Bumrah

 

[jnaveen1980]

What is India's pace bowling attack likely to be for first test?

Bumrah, siraj, Rana, reddy my guess.

 

[Ahmed216]

Most likely eleven or its already confirmed barring any injury.

Jais
KL
Padikkal
Virat
Pant
Jurel
Ash/ Jadeja
Nitish Reddy
Harshit rana
Siraj
Bumrah

Honestly looks like a weak side on paper but after 2020 it's really difficult to predict how India will perform.
It was a miraculous effort 4 years ago and they'll take a lot of confidence from that

 

[jnaveen1980]

Honestly looks like a weak side on paper but after 2020 it's really difficult to predict how India will perform.
It was a miraculous effort 4 years ago and they'll take a lot of confidence from that

India brings their best against Australia traditionally also the worst against New zealand. This time i am pessimistic given the transition stage that India is in

 

[Devadwal]

Honestly looks like a weak side on paper but after 2020 it's really difficult to predict how India will perform.
It was a miraculous effort 4 years ago and they'll take a lot of confidence from that

Yes its a very weak batting units i have ever seen in Australian conditions.

That's why no indian fan's are hoping for any test victory.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yes its a very weak batting units i have ever seen in Australian conditions.

That's why no indian fan's are hoping for any test victory.

Some key components are missing. When you see India collapsing 6 home innings in a row you dont' feel confident. Not many stepped up to arrest the collapse. Lack of Pujara mentality from any players is a serious concern. Don't want Pujara. But want players with pujara mentality.

 

[kron]

Changed my prediction officially

2-2 draw. One test washed out.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Issue is it screws India up for the future with Kohli being in the test side for another 2 or 3 years due to his fluke Aus performance

If I was an Indian I'd take a potentially screwed up short term future for the chance to beat Australia 3 times in a row in Oz.

But I understand your perspective too.

 

[Vikram1989]

Changed my prediction officially

2-2 draw. One test washed out.

Really interested to see ur Analysis

 

[kron]

If I was an Indian I'd take a potentially screwed up short term future for the chance to beat Australia 3 times in a row in Oz.

But I understand your perspective too.

It really doesn't. Kohli Always fails in key games. All big losses happened when he played. We never needed him to win bgt. I will be glad if he defects rhe country and moves back to England permanently.

 

[Vikram1989]

Bumrah, siraj, Rana, reddy my guess.

As per ci,Bumrah,Akshdeep, prasid and nitish

 

[kron]

Really interested to see ur Analysis

One 100% washed out
So draw
3 tests on pace friendly pitches. Our batting sucks vs swing and spin. But pure bounce plus pace we can handle somewhat. Bowlers will be fine. They are good. Shami will be back in test 2. Harshit mus play. We extend batting till number 9
With harshir ans akashdeep playing.

Sundae jurel pant is seriously packed with immense potential.

Also jaiswal is good enough I feel on bouncy wickets. Hopefully.

We should be able to win 2 if we win tosses in particular.

Contrary to the belief here flat pitches where our batsmen need to pile runs is where we would struggle.

These spicy pitches can backfire badly.

 

[Vikram1989]

Also jaiswal is good enough I feel on bouncy wickets. Hopefully.

We should be able to win 2 if we win tosses in particular.

These spicy pitches can backfire badly.

Our best bet is to win tosses at Perth and gabba.In Adelaide if we can avoid batting under lights and aus was forced to do so,it will give good advantage. Almost we should have "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong" kind of thing for Aussies in those 3 matches to win any game.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Our best bet is to win tosses at Perth and gabba.In Adelaide if we can avoid batting under lights and aus was forced to do so,it will give good advantage. Almost we should have "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong" kind of thing for Aussies in those 3 matches to win any game.

This is why you need players who can do the waiting game which India has none. Sometimes you hang in their long enough to see the fortune turns around. This team has temperamentally poor players. Look at Rohit sharma and the way he tried to play after getting beaten twice. It was ridiculous against New zealand.

 

[Vikram1989]

This is why you need players who can do the waiting game which India has none. Sometimes you hang in their long enough to see the fortune turns around. This team has temperamentally poor players. Look at Rohit sharma and the way he tried to play after getting beaten twice. It was ridiculous against New zealand.

Rohit is completely unfit.He can't stay mote than 10 overs in any format.He is pretending to be selfless and staying in the mask.sri lanka odis are the ptime sample. 2019 rohit may have played till the end and closed of all the matches after a good start.He was happy to blast and leave even after knowing out team is garbage against the spin.Same goes for nz 3rd match too.U can remember the 2021 eng series 2nd match in chennai.its hallmark of rohits spin playing ability and long innings with lots of patience. I just hope all the washed up trio rohit, kohli,kl leaves odi too after the drubbing.Even if we play the ct let's go with youngsters instead of pr promoted washed up superstars.I was surprised with jaiswal impatient innings against nz. He was very gritty against eng for entire series.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Border-Gavaskar Trophy: Hazlewood glad Pujara is missing but won't underestimate India's young guns

Australian fast bowler Josh Hazlewood also felt that the Indian cricket team will miss the services of Mohammed Shami but underlined that they have Jasprit Bumrah who is a force to reckon with.

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Happy that Pujara isn't here: Josh Hazlewood
Australian fast bowler Josh Hazlewood is relieved Team India is without the services of Cheteshwar Pujara for the upcoming Border-Gavaskar Trophy which starts on 22 November in Perth. Pujara was the highest run-getter in the India vs Australia Test series Down Under in 2018-19 with 521 runs in four Tests as India won their first-ever Test series in Australia. He also scored 271 in the 2020-21 series Down Under, helping India to clinch their second consecutive BGT in Australia.

Pujara, however, has been out of favour in the Indian Test side, having last played in the 2023 World Test Championship (WTC) final. “I’m pretty happy that Puj (Cheteshwar Pujara) isn’t here (smiles). He’s obviously one that bats time, makes you really earn his wicket every time, has done really well in Australia on all these tours,” Hazlewood said in Perth on Wednesday.

‘They’re all great players’


The 33-year-old Australian pacer, however, refused to undermine the current Indian lot that includes young batters like Sarfaraz Khan, and Yashasvi Jaiswal, meanwhile, Devdutt Padikkal is also expected to play in the Perth Test after injury to Shubman Gill.

“So there’s always young, fresh guys coming into the Indian team that they’re under so much pressure to perform in the Indian team with so many guys nipping at their heels all the time. Whoever they pick in that XI, they’re unbelievable players. It doesn’t really matter who they pick, they’re all great players,” he added.

“Anytime you disrupt the top-six it’s a bit of an issue but as I said the amount of talent in the Indian squad is quite unbelievable, the depth is phenomenal, better than any other country in the world. So whoever comes in has earned their stripes and no doubt will do well,” added Hazlewood.

Hazlewood added the Indian cricket team will miss Mohammed Shami who returned to cricketing action recently after a year-long injury layoff.