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Last year's MCG pitch was deemed poor by ICC during Ashes Test.

At this stage it is unclear what kind of pitch MCG boxing Day Test will produce.

However the manner in which Aussies have roared back in this Series it looks inevitable that Australians will probably carry better momentum and they are not easy to beat in MCG either.

Talking about momentum, Indian team Management still does not know it's best 11, therefore Aussies have the edge now at MCG.
 
Nope a loss is actually a good thing for India, next game ashwin will come back, Lyon won't be getting many wickets as Indians will take him seriously and play him like a bowler rather than the usual try and hack them nonsense and an angry kohli will score a lot of runs.

Unless the pitch is a road which I doubt it will be 2-1 India.
 
MCG is Australia's forte. So, I back them to win there. India has better chance in Sydney though but a draw is also possible there.
 
I hope the MCG pitch has something for bowlers . Would love to see both sides play 5 bowling options .
i think hosts will go 2-1 here .
 
Nope a loss is actually a good thing for India, next game ashwin will come back, Lyon won't be getting many wickets as Indians will take him seriously and play him like a bowler rather than the usual try and hack them nonsense and an angry kohli will score a lot of runs.

Unless the pitch is a road which I doubt it will be 2-1 India.

Indians took Lyon seriously but still collapsed. He's a bloody good bowler.

With our tail, 2-3 wickets are guaranteed for Lyon every innings.
 
With correct team selection we can win. But with Kohli and Shastri as the key decision makers I fear we will have another screw up even before the toss.
 
CA MEDIA RELEASE - December 18, 2018

Domain Test Squad Announced

Cricket Australia has announced the Men’s squad for the remaining two Tests of the Domain Test Series v India.

The National Selection Panel has named an unchanged 13 person squad for the Boxing Day and New Year’s Test matches.

Chris Tremain was released from the squad prior to the Perth Test and National Selector, Trevor Hohns, said: “With Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins, Josh Hazlewood and Peter Siddle in the squad we believe we have enough fast bowlers to choose from, so we’ve made the decision to stick with the 13 person squad for the remaining two Test matches against India."

"We believe it’s important to keep this group together to build on the momentum we have established in Perth."

“We will regroup in Melbourne for the Boxing Day Test over the weekend, and we look forward to preparing for another tough challenge against the number one Test team in the world.”

Pat Cummins (New South Wales)
Aaron Finch (Victoria)
Peter Handscomb (Victoria)
Marcus Harris (Victoria)
Josh Hazlewood (VC - New South Wales)
Travis Head (South Australia)
Usman Khawaja (Queensland)
Nathan Lyon (New South Wales)
Mitch Marsh (VC – Western Australia)
Shaun Marsh (Western Australia)
Tim Paine (C - Tasmania)
Peter Siddle (Victoria)
Mitchell Starc (New South Wales)
 
Ashwin
Vijay
Che
VK
Rahane
Vihari
Pandya
Pant
Ishant
Shami
Bumrah

That is the lineup I want. Opening with Ashwin is no doubt a short term measure (two tests at max) but with one that would give flexibility both in batting (till 8) and bowling (6 options).

With the form of Rahul, Ashwin will be as good or bad. Any takers?
 
If the pitch is anywhere like what it has been in recent years, then advantage India. Lately the pitches at MCG have been slow with relatively low bounce which has suited the Asian teams. Even Pakistan managed to score 450 at the G and had it not been for another Day 5 implosion, Pakistan would've drawn the Test. So if the pitch is something similar, expecting India to score 450+ as well.
 
It will be a cracker.

Looking froward to it.

Contrary to popular belief, IMO, India should persist with Yadav.
 
So lets see what changes India make for this game.
 
Toss is the main factor. Whoever wins the toss is likely to win the game.
 
[MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] is a very mysterious poster.
 
Indians took Lyon seriously but still collapsed. He's a bloody good bowler.

With our tail, 2-3 wickets are guaranteed for Lyon every innings.

We gift him wickets every innings playing stupid cricket, he is a good bowler no doubt but play him with respect and he isn't nearly as effective as we saw in the second innings of the first test, play him completely losing perspective of the game and he takes wickets much like he did in the second test of the first test.
 
The first innings of this test will decide the series.

With that said, thread's a touch early is it not? Test doesn't start until a week from now.
 
The first innings of this test will decide the series.

With that said, thread's a touch early is it not? Test doesn't start until a week from now.
I’ve never understood for the life of me but on sporting forums many people want to be the one to start the match thread. Heck on a man united forum I used to be on once upon a time there would be e-ballots as to who would get to start the match thread
 
[MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION] is a very mysterious poster.

Not sure what you mean, but in my opinion this Ind team is strong to win tests if they win toss in Aus, but not strong enough to win after losing it. In general, toss has been a major factor for visiting teams in recent times. I don't recall visiting team winning much after losing toss.

No team is like great Aus or WI team to over come toss and venue disadvantage at the same time. I would love to be proven wrong to have more interesting results, but let's see.
 
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Not sure what you mean, but in my opinion this Ind team is strong to win tests if they win toss in Aus, but not strong enough to win after losing it. In general, toss has been a major factor for visiting teams in recent times. I don't recall visiting team winning much after losing toss.

No team is like great Aus or WI team to over come toss and venue disadvantage at the same time. I would love to be proven wrong to have more interesting results, but let's see.

I didn’t mean your opinion here.

I meant that you’ve been active for so long and we’ve interacted a lot over the years but I don’t know the first thing about you. Are you a saffer living in the US? Or are you Indian fan of SA. Lol. Just was wondering
 
I'm only interested to see whether Kohli continues his sledging spree after Tim Paine's assault in Perth. Will be truly comical if he again turns up and shamelessly sledges.
 
Lol please play this team..

I am not joking. With the kind of form Rahul is in, Ash can play better. 25 runs would just be gold dust from one of our openers.

Mind you not by any means am I converting him into an opener. This would strictly be a stop gap arrangement. One or two test matches at best.
 
If it's a flat deck India should play Pandya and then go in with 4 bowlers. I definitely do not want to see Bumrah run into the ground by getting overbowled by a clueless captain!
 
Pandya?

Et tu brute?

We need to pick our XI conditions based. If it's a flat deck then we need to play 4 bowlers + 1 AR otherwise we are in serious risk of injuring our Pacers. And if we play 5 pure bowlers then our pathetic batting line up has no cover and is thoroughly exposed. Actually this XI could work

Vihari (I know this is radical but still)
Vijay/Rahul
Che
Kohli
Rahane
Pant
Pandya
Ashwin
Jadeja
Shami
Bumrah
3 Pacers in Shami, Bumrah, Pandya and 2 spinners to keep the Pacers fresh and plenty of batting cover till no.9.
 
If it's a flat deck India should play Pandya and then go in with 4 bowlers. I definitely do not want to see Bumrah run into the ground by getting overbowled by a clueless captain!

Kohli’s captaincy in the game was pretty good, brought in Shami at the right time also gave his everything in the field
 
Recall reading somewhere that most 1st class matches at MCG in last one year were draws . I hope the strip for Test is spiced up .
 
Ashwin
Vijay
Che
VK
Rahane
Vihari
Pandya
Pant
Ishant
Shami
Bumrah

That is the lineup I want. Opening with Ashwin is no doubt a short term measure (two tests at max) but with one that would give flexibility both in batting (till 8) and bowling (6 options).

With the form of Rahul, Ashwin will be as good or bad. Any takers?

Which are the 6 bowling options?Hope you are not counting Vijay

I'd rather drop Vijay,open with Vihari and get either Jaddu or Bhuvi in
 
Have other things lined up for the New Year's week, so can't wake up early for this.

Any way, with Shaw not playing, I've lost interest. Two very mediocre batting line ups (barring a batsman or two) - Shaw was the only bright spark to watch out for
 
Why is everybody picking Pandya? We already have 3 pace bowlers doing their job so that department is fine and Pandya is obviously not good enough to be selected for his batting alone. Picking him is going to be another howler by the grey matter-challenged Kohli.
India needs another spinner or a spin bowling batsman like Jadeja.

Mayank
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Jadeja
Pant
Ashwin
Ishant
Shami
Bumrah
 
Which are the 6 bowling options?Hope you are not counting Vijay

I'd rather drop Vijay,open with Vihari and get either Jaddu or Bhuvi in

Ashwin, Vihari, Pandya, Bumrah, Shami and Ishant are the 6 bowling options in that lineup, I believe.
 
Why is everybody picking Pandya? We already have 3 pace bowlers doing their job so that department is fine and Pandya is obviously not good enough to be selected for his batting alone. Picking him is going to be another howler by the grey matter-challenged Kohli.
India needs another spinner or a spin bowling batsman like Jadeja.

Mayank
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Jadeja
Pant
Ashwin
Ishant
Shami
Bumrah

Why Rahul again? He looks out of touch
 
That was a Shandarchowka post :afridi

I hope India picks him, watching him bat nowadays reminds me of Ashraful

Ashraful has a match winning hundred against Aussies when Australia was invincible and Bangladesh were struggling to put together a decent XI. Please don't be so disrespectful to Ashraful..
 
Not much coming out from Australian camp on the kind of pitch. While the talk is of it being a placid track like it has been for sometime, I have a feeling it will be a proper bowling track once again
 
Which are the 6 bowling options?Hope you are not counting Vijay

I'd rather drop Vijay,open with Vihari and get either Jaddu or Bhuvi in

3 pacers + Ash + Pandya and Vihari - 6 options.
 
3 pacers + Ash + Pandya and Vihari - 6 options.

And the reason why I did not want to disturb Vihari is that he is finding his feet at the middle order and I just don't want to disturb his thought process as he has performed ok till now.

Ashwin at #1 or #2 is a gamble for sure which might or might not work. But even if it doesn't work it is status quo as there is not going to be a big change in what is happening at the moment. If it works great, if it doesn't we won't be losing much. Makes sense?
 
Australias bowlers are sole reason that Aussies have been competative in series. Perth conditions are unique so even with Aussies been a weak side they were likely to fair well against an Asian side. With out extra bounce at last two venues to be used, asking for the wickets to be spiced up could back fire as i believe the Aussie batting is more likely to implode then the indians.

India should forget perth and believe they can wear Aussies down and win series
 
Australias bowlers are sole reason that Aussies have been competative in series. Perth conditions are unique so even with Aussies been a weak side they were likely to fair well against an Asian side. With out extra bounce at last two venues to be used, asking for the wickets to be spiced up could back fire as i believe the Aussie batting is more likely to implode then the indians.

India should forget perth and believe they can wear Aussies down and win series

The perth result would not have gone against India if we had won the toss despite the bad selections, that First innings where we got no help off the pitch in the first session and the last innings where it was impossible to bat really made the difference, If India win the toss we will win the game.
 
Everyone's darling Hardik Sobers Pandya is back. Let's see who will be dropped for this global superstar. And if he fails his fans already have an excuse that this is his first match after the injury. :inti
 
The perth result would not have gone against India if we had won the toss despite the bad selections, that First innings where we got no help off the pitch in the first session and the last innings where it was impossible to bat really made the difference, If India win the toss we will win the game.

Cant keep blaming loss of toss for every indian defeat abroad. India were in strong position during 1st half of the game and then folded. If india can bat big in 1st inns Aussies will crumble. That is more the key to sucess in winning games away from home.
 
I didn’t mean your opinion here.

I meant that you’ve been active for so long and we’ve interacted a lot over the years but I don’t know the first thing about you. Are you a saffer living in the US? Or are you Indian fan of SA. Lol. Just was wondering

I have mixed heritage. You can call united nation family ;)

Anyway, all of us here like quality cricket.
 
Like it or not, I would go with Kuldeep and take a punt. He can be the 'tail cleaner' we need. Can surprise the likes of Harris, Handscomb and Finch. He would go for boundaries, but one has to be patient. Eventually he will land one right!
I don't see Kohli, being the conservative captain that he is, selecting him in 100 years, but if only Kohli thought a little out of the box and did not make hunch selections, we would have won Cape Town, Centurion, Edgbaston, Southampton and Perth!
 
Cant keep blaming loss of toss for every indian defeat abroad. India were in strong position during 1st half of the game and then folded. If india can bat big in 1st inns Aussies will crumble. That is more the key to sucess in winning games away from home.

Look at the record, win the toss win the test is the mantra right now. Only India at home are the outlier to this.
 
Ashwin's fitness to be evaluated 'over the next 48 hours' – Shastri

India coach Ravi Shastri said that Ravichandran Ashwin, who missed the Perth Test with an abdominal strain, remains doubtful for the Boxing Day (December 26) Test at Melbourne Cricket Ground.

Shastri added that the spinner's fitness will be assessed over the next couple of days. He also gave an update on Rohit Sharma and Hardik Pandya, who have both recovered from their injuries, but are doubtful in terms of their full match fitness.

"As far as Ashwin is concerned, we are going to take a look and evaluate over the next 48 hours," Shastri told the presspersons on Monday, 23 December. "Rohit Sharma looks good, he has made very good improvement. But then again, we have to see how he pulls up tomorrow. He looks good as of today. Pandya is fit."

Pandya, who was ruled out of the first two games because of a back injury, has made a comeback into the squad for the third and fourth Tests. The all-rounder's availability will likely give India a significant boost in the bowling department, where the pacers have been shouldering heavy workload.

"It gives you that option," Shastri agreed. "He hasn't played much first-class cricket though, he has played just one game after the injury. We have to be careful before we actually decide on whether he plays or not."

A bulk of India's runs in the series has been scored by Virat Kohli, Cheteshwar Pujara and Ajinkya Rahane in the middle-order, while the opening batsmen have struggled. The duo of Murali Vijay and KL Rahul have not been up able to cut corners in the series so far and individually, have not yet scaled the 50-run mark.

"It's a big concern," admitted Shastri. "That responsibility, that accountability has to be taken by the top order. They have got the experience, they have got the exposure over the last few years."

The visitors' decision of fielding an all-pace bowling line-up without a specialist spinner in the Perth Test was a bold call, but it did not quite pay the dividends.

When asked if, in hindsight, the team management should have picked Ravindra Jadeja for that game, Shastri said, "the problem with Jaddu was that he took an injection four days after coming here. He had a stiff shoulder.

"So when you look at Perth, he was around 70-80% fit and we didn't want to [take that] risk. The last thing we wanted was for someone to break down after five overs."

India won Test matches in South Africa and England this year, but failed to convert those singular victories into series triumphs overseas. The visitors will want to change that trend against Australia.

"Third time lucky," quipped Shastri. "It's not often will you find that a team is travelling overseas and it is 1-1 in the series with two Test matches to go. The boys know what they can do, what they're capable of and what potential lies again."

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/953362
 
For India Opening by Pujara will be important move, like Azhar did for us in last round of western tour, I hope he does it again for SA tour...

With Kukabora, it’s important to see off first 15/20 overs without loosing many, Pujara can do that better than any opener they have, Pujara is coming to the crease in first 2/3 overs anyway, why it just open.... Secondly it’s open up flexiblility for India Jadaja/Ashwin and a batsmen to be added...

Secondly, toss is vital for any team to beat AUS in AUS...I think Auses will prepare lively wicket, since they can only win by bowling, batsmen don’t have legs to bat long on flat surfaces, which they do with us and others in past, so toss will be crucial for India...
 
Warne's tweet : With the really hot weather continuing for the next 10 days in Melb - I hope the MCG pitch can keep its moisture & the decision makers decide to prepare a drop in pitch with the max grass allowed by the regulations & rock hard, so the ball flies through & dominates !

I hope the curator produces a lively pitch .
 
Shastri says Jadeja did not play in Perth as he had a shoulder niggle & was 80% fit & still is not completely fit . What is happening !
 
Shastri says Jadeja did not play in Perth as he had a shoulder niggle & was 80% fit & still is not completely fit . What is happening !

^ Shastri is running a circus. Despite being the least physically demanding job - the spinners are unfit and probably even obese in Ashwin's case.

Get ready for 3-1 to Australia.
 
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So jadeja is 80% fit and will play if ashwin isn't back, but shastri did not pick jadeja who was 80% fit in Perth because he was 80% fit, totally makes sense. Also someone should ask shastri what was kohli spotting about not even considering even ashwin in Perth had he been fit because they wanted to play 4 Pacers. Until these 2 jokers are in charge we ain't winning a thing.
 
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Australia add 7-year-old leg-spinner Archie Schiller to their squad for 3rd Test against Virat Kohli and co!!!

Link
 
^ Shastri is running a circus. Despite being the least physically demanding job - the spinners are unfit and probably even obese in Ashwin's case.

Get ready for 3-1 to Australia.

Shastri is lying here because i clearly remember Jadeja fielding in Pert as substitute .
 
Team should be

KL Raul
Murali Vijay
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Vihari
Pant
Yadav
Ishant
Shami
Jasprit

Coach Shastri
 
Why not promote Vihari up the order

He looked promising
 
Warne repeatedly talking about steaming hot weather[ 32 to 38 degrees ] during the duration of Test & hoping that curator will be able to keep moisture in the pitch .
Do we have a case for playing 2 spinners besides Bumrah , Shami & Pandya here ?
 
I hear Vihari is being considered as an opening bat.

#AnythingToAccommodateRohit
 
Talk about Indians last few not being able to hold a bat.
Well aus have just selected handscomb again. He will not make more than 30 in his 2 innings. Total waste of a player
 
I hear Vihari is being considered as an opening bat.

#AnythingToAccommodateRohit

If India had an ounce of common sense, Both openers out, Agarwal and Vihari to open, Pandya as an A/R and Ashwin/Jadeja/Kuldeep to replace Umesh, and a home ticket for Vijay, Rahul and Umesh.
 
Why will u do that.

KL Rahul is most expensive player right now in indian premier league and ad film industry. He has good form going right now. His feet are moving just like Shastri used to.

Murali Vijay has good record against Aussies. His technique is also out of this world. He scores heavily in warm up matches. His net sessions are better than Danny Morrison and Courtney Walsh. He sees ball like a watermelon and plays late.

Why will u drop 2 inform talented match winners. Who also have supreme confidence.
 
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Indian test team is mediocre and full of awful players. We don't have bench strength and there is total lack of options for opening and middle order batsmen. Spinners are either unfit to.play or don't know how to ball. That's why Swan, Panesar and Moen Ali ripped through batting order in England + India, 3 times in a row. Lying did that last time and doing again.
 
Indian test team is mediocre and full of awful players. We don't have bench strength and there is total lack of options for opening and middle order batsmen. Spinners are either unfit to.play or don't know how to ball. That's why Swan, Panesar and Moen Ali ripped through batting order in England + India, 3 times in a row. Lying did that last time and doing again.

3 times, is that why they lost 4-0 in india?
 
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