No the SC does, the ones sitting at the top aren't real BCCI.So CA controls the BCCI right?
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No the SC does, the ones sitting at the top aren't real BCCI.So CA controls the BCCI right?
You are misreading the post. I meant that the umpire was informed beforehand of this occurrence which is why he immediately knew what was happening.
It also doesn't remove the cloud of suspicion that Australia might have been cheating beforehand, since there was no thoroughly independent inquiry done unlike the Monkeygate. Then there's voices, on twitter/blogs/cricinfo/reddit/cricbuzz who've reminded us of the horrible DRS success rate of Australia after the DRSgate.Smith broke the rule in that incident.. Now if that situation was dealt appropriately or not is not up to us to decide. May be he got away lightly just like Harbhajan did back then but that doesn't prove any of Kohli's claims.
It also doesn't remove the cloud of suspicion that Australia might have been cheating, since there was no thoroughly independent inquiry unlike the Monkeygate. Then there's voices, on twitter/blogs/cricinfo/reddit/cricbuzz who've reminded of the horrible DRS success rate of Australia after the DRSgate.
Because it is illegal for a player's decision to be influenced by anyone other than his partner.
Smith looked at a position where he possible could have gained information from someone else and the umpire acted appropriately.
There is no evidence that this happened more than once. Indeed even when the BCCI wanted to press charges the BCCI did not push this line due to no evidence.
Sorry if there's no official case then the burden of (uncovering) truth is on the judiciary i.e. the ICC. The fact that they brushed it off under the carpet immediately after just raises more suspicion, their handling of Mintgate being the cherry on top.Burden of proof is on accuser..
Sorry if there's no official case then the burden of (uncovering) truth is on the judiciary i.e. the ICC. The fact that they brushed it off under the carpet immediately after just raises more suspicion, their handling of Mintgate being the cherry on top.
Then what's the harm in ordering an inquiry, at worst it'll take some of their time & money but the best case scenario would be that Australia would be absolved of all the claims. Why do you think Faf pleaded not guilty even when his was an open & shut case, he didn't want to be branded as a cheat, do you not see any similarity here? It obviously depends on which side of the fence you pick, but instead of a thousand pieces of mind just lying out in the open figuring out who's right, the ICC could well have ended all the confusion & suspicion, if they truly impartial, by ordering a probe.Again that's your assumption. You need more than suspicion/ doubts/ conspiracy to prove someone guilty.
Like I said, if you're (ICC) truly neutral the probe would do no harm to anyone.Anyways feel like I am preaching against the wall. Nothing further needs to be said
Then what's the harm in ordering an inquiry, at worst it'll take some of their time & money but the best case scenario would be that Australia would be absolved of all the claims. Why do you think Faf pleaded not guilty even when his was an open & shut case, he didn't want to be branded as a cheat, do you not see any similarity here? It obviously depends on which side of the fence you pick, but instead of a thousand pieces of mind just lying out in the open figuring out who's right, the ICC could well have ended all the confusion & suspicion, if they truly impartial, by ordering a probe.
So who was the authority in Faf's case, lemme guess the Aussie media.That's up to the authorities to decide..
Burden of proof is on accuser..
Soooo .... who is the accuser here ??? Must be the Umpire .... since he threw Smith out !!! Kohli had not done anything .... until then !!! Smith got caught Red Handed and paid the price ... hard to accept it. Time heals all wounds.
So who was the authority in Faf's case, lemme guess the Aussie media.
No, he said it happened at least twice before it was caught on cam.Accuser is Kohli who said this thing happened all day
Enter the hero, James Sutherland, suddenly Mr. Malcom's appearance 20 years back makes more sense now. I can see the current CoA leading the BCCI are just as farcical as Mr. Manohar.BCCI should have pressed the charges just like Aussie media did if they thought matter was that serious
No, he said it happened at least twice before it was caught on cam.Enter the hero, James Sutherland, suddenly Mr. Malcom's appearance 20 years back makes more sense now. I can see the current CoA leading the BCCI are just as farcical as Mr. Manohar.
Accuser is Kohli who said this thing happened all day
BCCI should have pressed the charges just like Aussie media did if they thought matter was that serious
And what would happen to the series if the majority of Aussie players were suspended, much more serious ($) right?That shouldn't stop BCCI from pressing charges if the matter was that serious i.e. Aussies cheating whole day
If u think Smith is clean why aus begged india to drop charges against smith if they r so confident? Why they have to talk to bcci any way if there is no proof?
If there is no proof it would have exposed bcci and kohli anyway
And what would happen to the series if the majority of Aussie players were suspended, much more serious ($) right?
It's no as simple as that, when it comes to handling millions of broadcast (STAR/Fox in this case) & sponsors' $ you don't just turn the volume ON & pretend that there's no one banging on your door. I suspect this is also the reason why Faf wasn't banned, even though IIRC the prescribed sentence was a match ban in his case.So BCCI can only blame themselves for being greedy!! Whose fault is that?
It's no as simple as that, when it comes to handling millions of broadcast (STAR/Fox in this case) & sponsors' $ you don't just turn the volume ON & pretend that there's no one banging on your door. I suspect this is also the reason why Faf wasn't banned, even though IIRC the prescribed sentence was a match ban in his case.
And what kind of reception did he get the last time India toured? They wasn't exactly welcomed with garlands, but that didn't stop him from scoring all those 100s.
Aussies are hostile either ways. Might as well give it back to them, then the bullies start cowering / whining endlessly like they're doing. Which is great to watch.
Virat Kohli says friendship comment was 'blown out of proportion'
I did not categorically say the whole Australian team but only a couple of individuals.I continue to be in good terms with the few guys I know & who I've played with at RCB & that doesn't change.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...wn-out-of-proportion/articleshow/57909647.cms
No charges.
I guess even the BCCI know Kohli's word is worthless.
Hence I said Head and StanlakeBtw Smith used to play for RCB too
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Then why did Sutherland rush to Mumbai and begged to drop the charges?
Then why did Sutherland rush to Mumbai and begged to drop the charges?
The charges against Smith for the actual incident that happened.
Why didn't the BCCI press charges for anything else?
Why did the BCCI threaten to go home over Harbhajan Singh's racist comments?
1.Charges were pressed for using unfair means.
2.What else they will press for?The pressed charges for unfair means.
3.BCCI went to the tribunal, got Bhajji acquitted by a learned neutral judge. Aussie charges were found to be false. Why didnt CA fight it out before a judge?Why beg for charges to be dropped?
The BCCI only pressed charges for one incident - not for any of the other alleged incidents which no evidence has been produced to support.
And CA are gutless and bow down to their BCCI masters money. Sutherland is a moral coward.
Sir it is the judge who ruled harbhajan not guilty but u r blaming Sutherland
Sutherland abandoned his player because he was scared of the BCCI monetary power.
Kohli is being a 12 year kid here. Pretty funny to see his reaction. Fact of the matter is Kohli is the form of his life with his limited technique. His party got messed up when Aussies found him out and hurt his humongous ego.
Kohli conveniently rested himself to avoid further embarrassment in the series ( akin to Sachin giving himself out when he was not out actually, not able to withstand the barrage of bouncers from Shohaib ).
That shouldn't stop BCCI from pressing charges if the matter was that serious i.e. Aussies cheating whole day
Found him out? Only 1 of his dismissals was due to the pitch or bowling, the rest were just mental issues.
Sachin136, very good point. Batting greatness is all about talent, technique, endurance, most importantly mental strength.
Definitely, and Kohli has shown on many instances that he is very strong mentally and thrives under pressure. A couple of dismissals doesn't change that.
He wasn't as hated last time as he is now.
There is a reason why people try to find similarities between Kohli and Ponting.
Kohli is being a 12 year kid here. Pretty funny to see his reaction. Fact of the matter is Kohli is the form of his life with his limited technique. His party got messed up when Aussies found him out and hurt his humongous ego.
Kohli conveniently rested himself to avoid further embarrassment in the series ( akin to Sachin giving himself out when he was not out actually, not able to withstand the barrage of bouncers from Shohaib ).
Sutherland abandoned his player because he was scared of the BCCI monetary power.
Sutherland abandoned his player because he was scared of the BCCI monetary power.
The ACB/CA have always been spineless cowards when it comes to standing up to the bully boys. They were scared of losing money if England ****** off home during the Bodyline series in the 1930's and they **** themselves again when the Indians threatened to pick up their bat and ball and go home after Harbhajan racially abused Symonds and now they caved in again over Kohli. When are the Australian board going to grow a set and stand up to the BCCI.
Quit spewing lies. Harbhajan did not racially abuse anyone. There was a mini trial and he was cleared. Which part of not guilty is not clear to you.
Symonds was an *** who wanted to be treated like a special person. Nobody said anything to him. His stupidity caused more problems.
The ACB/CA have always been spineless cowards when it comes to standing up to the bully boys. They were scared of losing money if England ****** off home during the Bodyline series in the 1930's and they **** themselves again when the Indians threatened to pick up their bat and ball and go home after Harbhajan racially abused Symonds and now they caved in again over Kohli. When are the Australian board going to grow a set and stand up to the BCCI.
And in Australia's case the BCCI didn't even see reason to charge anyone.
Take your own advice.
Never. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is King.
CA will never let anything get in their way of being chief lapdog.
case A: Trial Held. Verdict: Harbhajan Not Guilty. Aussies Pi%$ed.
Case B: Threat for trial. Aussies beg. Captain agrees to lesser charges. BCCI no humiliation for guests. Time to move on. Aussies Pi#@ed again.
Comprehend.
He was found not guilty because they were scared of India picking up their bat and ball and going home.
It's about damn time the rest of the world put on their big boy pants and told India where to go.
The ICC is a toothless tiger than runs the game in name only.
It's as clear as day the Board of Cricket Corruption in India runs the game and the rest of the world are too gutless to do anything about it.
You have no shame. The judge was from New Zealand (if I am not mistaken) and was neutral. How dare you shamelessly question the integrity of a judge. Judges are not for sale. There was a case of he said she said and that goes no where in the court of law. You need conclusive proof.
What has India done that you are so miffed? Quit hating.
BCCI does not run the game. You just backstabbed Indians and they are still looking the other way.
You want a world order where Australia always wins. That aint happening anymore.
You need conclusive proof.
But its fine for you to make all these accusations about Australia cheating lel.
You have no shame. The judge was from New Zealand (if I am not mistaken) and was neutral. How dare you shamelessly question the integrity of a judge. Judges are not for sale. There was a case of he said she said and that goes no where in the court of law. You need conclusive proof.
What has India done that you are so miffed? Quit hating.
BCCI does not run the game. You just backstabbed Indians and they are still looking the other way.
You want a world order where Australia always wins. That aint happening anymore.
Are you for real? Of course anyone who follows cricket knows the BCCI runs the game.
The ICC are the lapdogs for the Board of Cricket Corruption in India and have been for years.
Did I say I want a game where Australia always wins? Honestly you sir are a paranoid fool. I am a cricket fan first, second and last. It got very boring in a hurry when Australia dominated world cricket from the late 90's to the mid 2000's.
It was a breath of fresh air when England beat Australia in the 2005 Ashes series as it was a highly competitive series played in the right spirit. Will probably remain the greatest series of all time for many years to come.
Why would I want any team to dominate world cricket like the West Indies did from the late 1970's to 1995 and Australia from 1995-2005. That would be incredibly boring.
I like to see good, hard competitive cricket in an even contest played in the right spirit.
Are you?
Did ICC without any BCCI representative just stabbed BCCI in the back. What power are you talking about? BCCI has no power. The reality is:
(1) ECB - just does not like BCCI and its influence
(2) ACB - Ditto
(3) New Zealand - Do as the above two.
(4) SA - Lorgat hates BCCI
(5) PCB - Cannot stand BCCI
BCCI has lots of enemies and no real power. That is why all the nations are able to steal India's money.
U r into some serious ranting on bcci, acb, kohli.The fact is the BCCI is the most powerful organisation in world cricket and throws its weight around to get what it wants.
Both times CA caved in like butter when India threatened to go home after the Monkeygate scandal with Harbhajan Singh and then again over the Virat Kohli nonsense (until they realised they had no leg to stand on as he couldn't prove the accusations that Australia were guilty of systemic cheating).
How else did Srinivasan get elected as ICC chairman despite the whole world knowing the guy is even more corrupt than former Italian president and former AC Milan football owner Silvio Berlusconi and also Tim May being ousted from his posted on the ICC committee in favour Laxman Sivaramakrishnan if the BCCI has no power?
Face facts the BCCI is a corrupt and all powerful organisation that has caused a lot of damage to world cricket.
And again think before running off accusing me of being upset Australia is no longer the dominant force of world cricket, believe me as a cricket lover, I don't want to see anyone being the absolute dominant force in world cricket. It makes it extremely boring. I like seeing tough, hard competitive cricket played in the right spirit.
Wake up and smell the coffee
U r into some serious ranting on bcci, acb, kohli.
Take a chill pill. Relax. Let the hate not eat u from inside.
Aus begged bcci not to press charges against smith isn't it?
If they r so confident then why they begged bcci? They had the chance to expose evil bcci and kohli isn't it? But they folded like sissies and u r ranting here that its bcci fault.
In monkey gate india was man enough to undergo trial and exonerate bhajji but acb didn't have the balls in this case because they dont have a leg to stand on.
Australia‘s swash-buckling opener David Warner on Friday said that he along with most other Australian cricketers continue to remain good friend with Indian cricketers. Warner’s quotes comes bare two weeks following the conclusion of a hard-fought four-Test series between India and Australia for the Border-Gavaskar Trophy. Following the conclusion of the series, Indian skipper Virat Kohli had said that he was no longer friends with few of the Australian cricketers, after he was targeted by a few of them on the field. Nevertheless, Warner feels that it is the duty of any cricketer to always play the game in the right spirit.
“We always gel very well. It’s a different feeling when you put both the teams on the field. Our ultimate goal is to go out there and win for the country and we will do anything to try and beat each other. “There were antics on and off the field in the Test series but we are also good friends. We enjoy laugh and that brings everyone together in international cricket. We have to keep the game in a nice fair spirit to make sure that we have grown the game of cricket. That’s the ultimate goal for us as athletes, to make sure cricket is the number one sport in the world, said Warner, as reported by PTI.
“It was a fantastic series for cricket and for fans in general with a lot of edge of the seats moment. A lot of stuff happening both on and off the field. We hoped everyone enjoyed the series. It’s disappointing not to have drawn the series or won it. But for us there was a lot of positives out of the way. We have proven that we can play in these conditions. Each individual has to rest and recover as well. There was so much international cricket. 13 in a row at home for India. It was extremely difficult for bowlers as they have to come back fresh not just for IPL and Champions Trophy,” concluded Warner.
https://cricket.yahoo.com/news/david-warner-indian-australian-cricketers-150156146.html
People these days take themselves too seriously. Steven Smith is still an active player and has already published a book about his journey. Need to see if he releases part 2 of the book when he retires. It is not just him, there are others who are doing this as well. It makes sense to retire from the game and then probably do such a thing if you are really inclined to.
Exactly - he's probably 50% into his career and he's already written a book!? Do it at the end of your career!
Exactly - he's probably 50% into his career and he's already written a book!? Do it at the end of your career!
worthy !!I think Stokes has a book too right?? Which is justworthy !!
Book title should bePity it doesn't contain the recent incident. I guess that'll be in the next volume.
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