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Avoiding Australia and subcontinent conditions: the keys to India's recent ICC triumphs?

Ab Fan said:
Australia is a bogey team for everyone in World Cup knockouts.

Atleast India have beaten them in big games in 2007, 2011, 2024 and 2025 knockouts. Those were all big moments and India have won. Other teams like NZ, SA, Pak almost always loses to Aus in knockouts.

Talking specifically about Finals is absurd because India met Australia in Finals only once in 2023 WC in recent years. You can’t be basing any argument on that one game.
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2021/2023 are luck based. Total fluke wins. They were absolutely terrible leading upto 2021 world T20. They got shellacking form Jos Buttler. They looked like under dogs. THen they won like 6 tosses in a row. 2023 they were at the bottom of the table. Multiple matches should have lost. When teams fuke their way to final they can be dangerous. Any team. Not just Australia. But 2023 win was mostly due India's own self-destruction in everything. From pitch to injury to selection. Bowlers kept bailing us out whenever we got into tricky situation. But on that day dew swallowed us.
 
Don't care, as long as India is winning ICC trophies, don't mind missing them even in coming tournaments. It is like how Pakistan fans would love to miss India in WCs. Australia not reaching finals is not India's fault, they have just been poor.
 
nish_mate said:
I reckon either the b&h 1985 world championship was either before your time on this planet or your having an amnesia bout in your current reincarnation.

Point being it was held in Oz and India won it and beat guess who in the final.

Better troll than me would say India inspired PCT to win something in Oz and India inspired PCT with a bit of Qudrat Ka Nizam finally won a silverware in Ozland.
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Brother, we are talking about world cups. Serious cricket only.
We all know Benson Hedges wasn't a serious tournament and was played under Kerry Packer era of non serious cricket.

Your country has achived great success playing on favourable and familiar surfaces. Until however India wins a 50 overs world cup in modern cricket in SENA nations, it cannot be considered a wholesome champion nation like Australia, Pakistan etc

1983 wasn't modern day cricket and India had a lucky streak going in their favour, remember you were thrashed 6-0 or 7-0 something months afterwards by West Indies in revenge series.
 
I don't remember in the 90s indians fans pointing out that SENA countries and west indies used to thrash Pak regularly. They just admitted Pak is better than them
 
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jnaveen1980 said:
Before 2019 semi final question was who can stop India.
Before 2023 final questiin. Was who can stop india
But there was always a question about middle order in both events. What happens if top order fails. Same with 2017.


Indias lack of depth hurt them thrice. Gambhir brought in the successful ipl template.They rejigged their batting so that India has an extra batsman . Things started happening. India hasn't looked back since.

2027 farewell ODI for old guys. So India won't win
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Oldie Kohli still miles better than youngsta beauty Abishek though, even in T20s.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
@The Bald Eagle you see the hypocrisy bro? We had @Mesozoic constantly dancing around Pak H2H record superiority and talking about ICC tournaments, now these Indian fans are exposed as they bring Sharjah ODI LOL!
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What Sharjah? 🤡

India knocked out Australia in 2024 and 2025 en route winning those tournaments unbeaten.

I Know you're a poster with no wit nor logic but atleast get the premise correct before creating these low quality threads..
 
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Mesozoic said:
2024 and 2025....we literally kicked Australia out of the tournament.


But but saaar avoided saaaar... 🤡

Please find my lame trolling attempts funny saar... 🤡
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Its just another exhibition/manifestation of impotent rage .... but gotta say it makes the bleed bright green brigade do some weird gymnastics which is ohh-soo-satisfying to watch. Priceless entertainment and 100% FREE MUFT!! :ROFLMAO:
 
Bhaijaan said:
Brother, we are talking about world cups. Serious cricket only.
We all know Benson Hedges wasn't a serious tournament and was played under Kerry Packer era of non serious cricket.

Your country has achived great success playing on favourable and familiar surfaces. Until however India wins a 50 overs world cup in modern cricket in SENA nations, it cannot be considered a wholesome champion nation like Australia, Pakistan etc

1983 wasn't modern day cricket and India had a lucky streak going in their favour, remember you were thrashed 6-0 or 7-0 something months afterwards by West Indies in revenge series.
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Wasn't serious?
1985 WC of cricket designed to coincide with the 150th year of the foundation of the state of Victoria had every test nation playing & every ODI nation playing with exception of Zimbabwe.

The west indies got three players injured on a dicey wicket playing Sri Lanka.

Rameez Rambo Raja injured himself in the finals vs India trying to take a catch as he bounced off the iron picket fence...(As no rope boundaries then at mcg,)

The way his misguided but well intentioned team mates attended to his injury & pressed his chest, i thought he might have half a cardiac arrest right there on the ground.

India beat Pak , aus & eng in the league stages & NZ & Pak in semi & finals.

The MoS was Ravi Shastri who was declared ''Champion of Champions " & drove his prize, the Audi on the Hallowed turf of MCG, first time this was being beamed back home & in full color.

& middle class india suddenly had new aspersions other than standard issue Fiat, Ambassador & Maruti 800' s of that era....😁

Which specific aspect of that tournament do you think qualified as 'non - serious'? 💥🪔👍🏆
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
Wasn't serious?
1985 WC of cricket designed to coincide with the 150th year of the foundation of the state of Victoria had every test nation playing & every ODI nation playing with exception of Zimbabwe.

The west indies got three players injured on a dicey wicket playing Sri Lanka.

Rameez Rambo Raja injured himself in the finals vs India trying to take a catch as he bounced off the iron picket fence...(As no rope boundaries then at mcg,)

The way his misguided but well intentioned team mates attended to his injury & pressed his chest, i thought he might have half a cardiac arrest right there on the ground.

India beat Pak , aus & eng in the league stages & NZ & Pak in semi & finals.

The MoS was Ravi Shastri who was declared ''Champion of Champions " & drove his prize, the Audi on the Hallowed turf of MCG, first time this was being beamed back home & in full color.

& middle class india suddenly had new aspersions other than standard issue Fiat, Ambassador & Maruti 800' s of that era....😁

Which specific aspect of that tournament do you think qualified as 'non - serious'? 💥🪔👍🏆
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Allegedly the matter was discussed in ICC board meetings, some executives from India had requested ICC to give the 1985 WS the status of an ICC Champions Trophy. ICC reportedly declined it calling it a non serious tournament.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Allegedly the matter was discussed in ICC board meetings, some executives from India had requested ICC to give the 1985 WS the status of an ICC Champions Trophy. ICC reportedly declined it calling it a non serious tournament.
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You are alluding to the status of an event which was questioned decades after it finished.

It can also be argued that ICC said this is a multinational tournament, but it didn't get the status of a 'Champions trophy ' -

non serious has nothing to do with it..

I would rate Pak's win in 1990 Nehru cup as a champions trophy or equivalent becoz all nations participated. It's a magnificent win by pak - but just becoz it wasn't called 'Champions trophy ' doesn't mean pak won a 'non - serious ' tournament.

The ICC desision you are pointing has no bearing on the efforts of the teams or the skills of all the players on display.....each player /team tried their damnest hard to win

Every fact I have quoted in my original post (to which u replied ) can be validated on Google & check you tube to see how 'serious' each team was , and wanted to win.

Richie Benaud on air converted the prize money from AUD to INR - it was that serious.
💥🇮🇳🪔🏆👍

Nice try though to undermine another indian win....but it won't hold water...

Cheers mate...😁
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
I would rate Pak's win in 1990 Nehru cup as a champions trophy or equivalent becoz all nations participated. It's a magnificent win by pak

Cheers mate...😁
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Agree with that.
It was like a proper world cup win actually.

Pakistan defeated West Indies in a final and weren't ona flukey run. 2-3 years from that, they won the 50 overs world cup slaying all major nations along the way.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Agree with that.
It was like a proper world cup win actually.

Pakistan defeated West Indies in a final and weren't ona flukey run. 2-3 years from that, they won the 50 overs world cup slaying all major nations along the way.
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Pakistan won by fluke in 1992 World Cup. They got in the semis because of rain abandoned match vs England which they were losing after getting bowled out for 74 batting first.

They also lost to undisputed #1 team of that era West Indies in the group stage.

One thing which Pakistan did right during that World Cup was beating the group toppers New Zealand in league stage as well as in the semifinal.
 
India get many perks. Venue perks, scheduling perks etc. Even crucial umpiring decisions go in their favor.

This is why I cannot take Indian wins seriously.

When other teams win, it is far more credible because they win without perks.

Australia never needed perks to win ICC trophies and they won 10 trophies.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Allegedly the matter was discussed in ICC board meetings, some executives from India had requested ICC to give the 1985 WS the status of an ICC Champions Trophy. ICC reportedly declined it calling it a non serious tournament.
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WSC 1985 was ICC Champions Trophy before the actual ICC Champions Trophy. Just because the reigning World Champions India won it back then doesn't mean it was a non serious tournament.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Deep diving into India's recent wins we notice an interesting pattern: no Australia in finals and no SENA conditions where India typically choke/struggle.

2024 WC - England in SF and South Africa (biggest choker) in F in West Indies
2025 CT - got to play on one ground in UAE - weakened Aus in SF and NZ in F (second biggest choker)
2026 WC - England in SF and NZ in F (second biggest choker) at home

I request this not to be merged because it needs to be pointed out. While India's recent 3 ICC wins seem impressive on paper, if you dig deep it takes the sheen off quite a bit. We have to go back to 2013 for India's last win in SENA and even there the F became a short T20 because of rain. This thread isn't mean to devalue India's achievements - very transparently it is a good achievement to win when things are in your favor. The question remains if India can win ICC trophies in SENA and more importantly beat their nemesis Australia en route?
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Sure mate...😉

Italy are a not so good soccer nation as they never won the WC outside of the European continent.

Argentina ain't so hot a soccer legacy nation as they never won in Europe.

Bjorn Borg was a bog average halwa player as he never won won a grand slam event on Clay courts, who cares for his wimbledon titles &
success- might as well as tie them around his cat & use it as warning bells😉.

Santa Claus exists....bringing his tohfa shortly...make sure to keep ya chimney open 😄
 
Bhaijaan said:
Brother, we are talking about world cups. Serious cricket only.
We all know Benson Hedges wasn't a serious tournament and was played under Kerry Packer era of non serious cricket.

Your country has achived great success playing on favourable and familiar surfaces. Until however India wins a 50 overs world cup in modern cricket in SENA nations, it cannot be considered a wholesome champion nation like Australia, Pakistan etc

1983 wasn't modern day cricket and India had a lucky streak going in their favour, remember you were thrashed 6-0 or 7-0 something months afterwards by West Indies in revenge series.
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Brother come back when you have won the 60 over, 50 over and 20 over world cup.

Till then I can't take any of hypothesis on India seriously with your shifting goalposts.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Deep diving into India's recent wins we notice an interesting pattern: no Australia in finals and no SENA conditions where India typically choke/struggle.

2024 WC - England in SF and South Africa (biggest choker) in F in West Indies
2025 CT - got to play on one ground in UAE - weakened Aus in SF and NZ in F (second biggest choker)
2026 WC - England in SF and NZ in F (second biggest choker) at home

I request this not to be merged because it needs to be pointed out. While India's recent 3 ICC wins seem impressive on paper, if you dig deep it takes the sheen off quite a bit. We have to go back to 2013 for India's last win in SENA and even there the F became a short T20 because of rain. This thread isn't mean to devalue India's achievements - very transparently it is a good achievement to win when things are in your favor. The question remains if India can win ICC trophies in SENA and more importantly beat their nemesis Australia en route?
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They beat Aussies in 2024 T20 WC super 8
They beat Aussies in 2025 CT semis

So what's the point of making this thread?
 
sweep_shot said:
India get many perks. Venue perks, scheduling perks etc. Even crucial umpiring decisions go in their favor.

This is why I cannot take Indian wins seriously.

When other teams win, it is far more credible because they win without perks.

Australia never needed perks to win ICC trophies and they won 10 trophies.
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So esteemed bro @sweep_shot
What happened in the 2012 WC - U-19 ...
What perks did India exactly get to reach the finals & win it?
what perks did the co- finalist & host nation Australia not get that it lost to India in the finals in Townsville?
 
Ab Fan said:
Australia is a bogey team for everyone in World Cup knockouts.

Atleast India have beaten them in big games in 2007, 2011, 2024 and 2025 knockouts. Those were all big moments and India have won. Other teams like NZ, SA, Pak almost always loses to Aus in knockouts.

Talking specifically about Finals is absurd because India met Australia in Finals only once in 2023 WC in recent years. You can’t be basing any argument on that one game.
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It isn't one though, it is actually 2 that happened within a space of 4-5 months.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Agree with that.
It was like a proper world cup win actually.

Pakistan defeated West Indies in a final and weren't ona flukey run. 2-3 years from that, they won the 50 overs world cup slaying all major nations along the way.
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Dude - u basically agreed with what you cherry picked out of the post because I was honest enough to praise your team - Pak for their wonderful win in the 1989 90 Nehru cup.


You didn't respond to the other half a dozen facts & points in my original post.
Anyways to each their own..cheers 🥂
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Deep diving into India's recent wins we notice an interesting pattern: no Australia in finals and no SENA conditions where India typically choke/struggle.

2024 WC - England in SF and South Africa (biggest choker) in F in West Indies
2025 CT - got to play on one ground in UAE - weakened Aus in SF and NZ in F (second biggest choker)
2026 WC - England in SF and NZ in F (second biggest choker) at home

I request this not to be merged because it needs to be pointed out. While India's recent 3 ICC wins seem impressive on paper, if you dig deep it takes the sheen off quite a bit. We have to go back to 2013 for India's last win in SENA and even there the F became a short T20 because of rain. This thread isn't mean to devalue India's achievements - very transparently it is a good achievement to win when things are in your favor. The question remains if India can win ICC trophies in SENA and more importantly beat their nemesis Australia en route?
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As much as I wanted to respond your name suggests not to take you seriously 🤣 Goodluck with the meltdown kbyechamp.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Agree with that.
It was like a proper world cup win actually.

Pakistan defeated West Indies in a final and weren't ona flukey run. 2-3 years from that, they won the 50 overs world cup slaying all major nations along the way.
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And got phaintad by India....Imran started the tradition...Baboo Aan Bobby following it :bobs
 
Mesozoic said:
What Sharjah? 🤡

India knocked out Australia in 2024 and 2025 en route winning those tournaments unbeaten.

I Know you're a low quality poster with no wit nor logic but atleast get the premise correct before creating these low quality threads..
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Indians are using Sharjah final vs Australia as sign of dominance in this thread to hide their pathetic record in ICC WC knockouts vs Aus and yet you mock Pak wins vs India in Sharjah. Hypocrisy with a capital H.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Indians are using Sharjah final vs Australia as sign of dominance in this thread to hide their pathetic record in ICC WC knockouts vs Aus and yet you mock Pak wins vs India in Sharjah. Hypocrisy with a capital H.
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India won 2007 and 2011 by beating Australia in the knockouts.

If that's "pathetic", then there is a certain team that has never won a single ICC knockout game against Australia in their entire history. As I said ... you're not funny nor good at this. Just giving second hand embarrassment to us here.
 
shah9425 said:
They beat Aussies in 2024 T20 WC super 8
They beat Aussies in 2025 CT semis

So what's the point of making this thread?
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Australia didn't send their full team for CT 2025.

Regarding 2024 World T20, Aussies never took T20 seriously. Their focus seem to be ODI WC and Test.
 
It is true Australia played as a red hot team in some of the finals. This does not mean the sheen is 'off' when a team wins final in which Australia could not make it. In some cases enroute final also India have defeated Australia in both early stages as well as knockouts. Other teams have also won finals in ICC tournaments in which Australia could not make it to the finals. In 2017 CT, the remark made by the commentator was 'Cummins gives away runs like a philanthropist.' We know later Cummins became a great player.
 
maha3us said:
It is true Australia played as a red hot team in some of the finals. This does not mean the sheen is 'off' when a team wins final in which Australia could not make it. In some cases enroute final also India have defeated Australia in both early stages as well as knockouts. Other teams have also won finals in ICC tournaments in which Australia could not make it to the finals. In 2017 CT, the remark made by the commentator was 'Cummins gives away runs like a philanthropist.' We know later Cummins became a great player.
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Australia lost to India even in 2023 in the first round.
 
Mesozoic said:
India won 2007 and 2011 by beating Australia in the knockouts.

If that's "pathetic", then there is a certain team that has never won a single ICC knockout game against Australia in their entire history. As I said ... you're not funny nor good at this. Just giving second hand embarrassment to us here.
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Let's talk ODI WC - 2011 QF has already been discussed. India's strongest ever team at home vs Australia's weakest ODI WC squad. Aus returned the favour in 2015 SF and then destroyed them in 2023 WC F at home. WTC and ODI WC back to back in a span of 4-5 months. Bringing in other teams is irrelevant to this thread - create a new one there.

Point stands: India have never beaten Aus in an ICC tournament final. 3-0 and counting....
 
sweep_shot said:
Australia didn't send their full team for CT 2025.

Regarding 2024 World T20, Aussies never took T20 seriously. Their focus seem to be ODI WC and Test.
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I can consider Ind fans argument about WTC F 2023 and it somewhat cancels CT 2025 in terms of weakened sides but 2024 T20 WC was not a knockout and as you said T20 is less relevant in the grandscheme of things. From 2007 to 2024, India did not win anything in T20 for 17 years despite IPL.
 
The simple hypocrisy of those who downplay Pakistan's superior HTH vs Ind has been spectacularly exposed in this thread. These same posters are arguing that Sharjah final is a great win vs Aus because Sachin smashed Kasprowicz and some no name bowlers. Yet when you show them the mirror about 88 vs 81 including massive margins in ODI and Test it is saar ICC events saar knockouts saar.
 
Australian cricket is in a decline. They have not many new talents coming up...else they would not be bringing back Renshaw and Steve Smith in T20s. So I think once likes of Cummins, Hazelwood and Starc retires...they will be a mediocre side for many years to come. I expect them to not win any ICC event atleast for next 2 decades.

The way India is playing, they will be defacto team in all future events. The onus is on teams like Pak, SL and BD to stop them as cricket is no.1 sport in these countries like in India. However, they always hide behind SENA teams and want them to do dirty job for them.

#NehiChalega

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
Australian cricket is in a decline. They have not many new talents coming up...else they would not be bringing back Renshaw and Steve Smith in T20s. So I think once likes of Cummins, Hazelwood and Starc retires...they will be a mediocre side for many years to come. I expect them to not win any ICC event atleast for next 2 decades.

The way India is playing, they will be defacto team in all future events. The onus is on teams like Pak, SL and BD to stop them as cricket is no.1 sport in these countries like in India. However, they always hide behind SENA teams and want them to do dirty job for them.

#NehiChalega

:kp
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Aren't you British? Why do you care how Ind does?
 
One of the reason india consistently improved was because they played against Australia competitively unlike pakistan whose entire focus was just on India. Since 2000 india has won 22 tests and Australia 21 tests.l against each other No other country comes remotely close to this. Same way in the last 15 years India has more wins against Australia in ICC events. All Pakistan fans do is hide behind Australia instead of asking " why can't we compete against Aussies like that" it is a shame you need Australian team to make yourself feel better.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
One of the reason india consistently improved was because they played against Australia competitively unlike pakistan whose entire focus was just on India. Since 2000 india has won 22 tests and Australia 21 tests.l against each other No other country comes remotely close to this. Same way in the last 15 years India has more wins against Australia in ICC events. All Pakistan fans do is hide behind Australia instead of asking " why can't we compete against Aussies like that" it is a shame you need Australian team to make yourself feel better.
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On one side indians say that Pakistan is weak ass team and on other hand mock their losses to USA and Zim.....First decide what you want
 
Rajdeep said:
Australian cricket is in a decline. They have not many new talents coming up...else they would not be bringing back Renshaw and Steve Smith in T20s. So I think once likes of Cummins, Hazelwood and Starc retires...they will be a mediocre side for many years to come. I expect them to not win any ICC event atleast for next 2 decades.

The way India is playing, they will be defacto team in all future events. The onus is on teams like Pak, SL and BD to stop them as cricket is no.1 sport in these countries like in India. However, they always hide behind SENA teams and want them to do dirty job for them.

#NehiChalega

:kp
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What's problem in renshaw and smith in t20s? They are better than overrated green and Cooper connoly
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
The simple hypocrisy of those who downplay Pakistan's superior HTH vs Ind has been spectacularly exposed in this thread. These same posters are arguing that Sharjah final is a great win vs Aus because Sachin smashed Kasprowicz and some no name bowlers. Yet when you show them the mirror about 88 vs 81 including massive margins in ODI and Test it is saar ICC events saar knockouts saar.
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You can't win against them...... I already said they have power to show RP singh bigger than mitchell starc.....
 
Katwalindian said:
What's problem in renshaw and smith in t20s? They are better than overrated green and Cooper connoly
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Its going backwards than looking ahead. You think likes of Rohit & Kohli are not good enough for T20Is? Ofcourse they cake walk into most teams. But India discarded them looking forward. Aussies going back bcoz no new talent coming up.
 
Rajdeep said:
Its going backwards than looking ahead. You think likes of Rohit & Kohli are not good enough for T20Is? Ofcourse they cake walk into most teams. But India discarded them looking forward. Aussies going back bcoz no new talent coming up.
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Smith is not same right now plus renshaw was beast in bbl..... plus india have lot more talent....they can make three t20 teams soo its like comparing apple to oranges
 
Katwalindian said:
On one side indians say that Pakistan is weak ass team and on other hand mock their losses to USA and Zim.....First decide what you want
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Just pointing out the irony. These fans are using Australia , a team thst tormented pakistan the most to mock India which has been the best team against Australia. Won 4 test series in a row against Australia.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Just pointing out the irony. These fans are using Australia , a team thst tormented pakistan the most to mock India which has been the best team against Australia. Won 4 test series in a row against Australia.
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Yeah Aus tormented pakistan lot more....1999, 2021 come to mind....
 
Inds are needlessly touchy. To win 3 ICC Trophies in 3 years is a good achievement. Did they win in familiar conditions and not SENA? Yes. Did they need Australia out of the way in finals for it? Yes. That does not make their achievement meaningless. If they can back it in 2027 I will be the first to congratulate them but if they lose will Ind posters accept what I am saying?
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
I am talking about finals there. CT 2025 was a weak Aussie side - I know you will say 2023 WTC Indian side had players missing but even if we take only ODI WCs then, India have no knockout matches in SF or F. 2011 QF at home is bottom of the barrel. Even then Aus have 2003, 2023 WC F and 2015 SF.
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No harm in admitting Aus have India’s number in finals

We have never beaten them in odi finals ever.

T20 maybe we have a shot as we are a far better t20 side than them.

ODI has always been aus’s best suit.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Inds are needlessly touchy. To win 3 ICC Trophies in 3 years is a good achievement. Did they win in familiar conditions and not SENA? Yes. Did they need Australia out of the way in finals for it? Yes. That does not make their achievement meaningless. If they can back it in 2027 I will be the first to congratulate them but if they lose will Ind posters accept what I am saying?
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Even if India makes it tot he final vs odi
I doubt India can beat Aus.

In other formats India have a chance but not in odi vs Aus.

Old dead format kings. Aus are the kings of the dead format odi.
 
Whats the fascination with SENA conditions disclaimer? Has any SEN won in SC, except for Ozzies who are what they are in the finals? Plus the fact that India did Oz in 25 or 24 WC's when India came across Oz in the knockouts? Surely to progress to finals you have to beat the oppos in the knockouts, quarters, semis etc unless you are England and won the lottery with rain and got the finals.....

As for SENA, India won it's first world cup in an E, its first T20 in a S and it's first solo CT in an E.

Extremely narrowed view akin to PCT only winning an ICC tourney in E or if it rains in A
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Just pointing out the irony. These fans are using Australia , a team thst tormented pakistan the most to mock India which has been the best team against Australia. Won 4 test series in a row against Australia.
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Only in dead format odi vs India.

Kings of dead format.

As a Pakistani fan, I know it’s hard for us to admit how good India has been but truth is bitter.
 
Rajdeep said:
Australian cricket is in a decline. They have not many new talents coming up...else they would not be bringing back Renshaw and Steve Smith in T20s. So I think once likes of Cummins, Hazelwood and Starc retires...they will be a mediocre side for many years to come. I expect them to not win any ICC event atleast for next 2 decades.

The way India is playing, they will be defacto team in all future events. The onus is on teams like Pak, SL and BD to stop them as cricket is no.1 sport in these countries like in India. However, they always hide behind SENA teams and want them to do dirty job for them.

#NehiChalega

:kp
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Also it’s a myth that SA are good in many sports

Apart from rugby union which is played by like 5 countries at best, they are pretty trash in most sports even with access to all high quality peds, nutrition, training support and facilities plus infrastructure lmao.

At best maybe 3 or 4 sports they are good at.
 
kron said:
And Aus dint beat full strength India side in 2023 either
And neither did they ever beat full strength Indian team in tests since 2014 in a test series and wtc final
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But those things don't count for bitter sore losers. Aussies can win however and no one can question but only Indian wins can be questioned.
 
kron said:
Even if India makes it tot he final vs odi
I doubt India can beat Aus.

In other formats India have a chance but not in odi vs Aus.

Old dead format kings. Aus are the kings of the dead format odi.
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Not the 2023 australia a total rubbish washed up side. India went with a.long tail.and Kela. Any team that has washed up labs and past by sell date Smith should not be winning one day trophies. Australia wins seamlessly when the overall.balance is good. 2015 i agree good team. Will beat us 7 out of 8 times
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Bottom line is India just cannot beat Aus in ICC finals 3-0 and India have a much lower success rate in SENA in ICC tournament wins and their recent 3 wins are a result of both these factors. I still give Ind credit for winning in favorable conditions.
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Oh thanks for the credit....

I am sure this is what ICT was waiting for, your validation.

Now RoKo can retire peacefully.
 
kron said:
And Aus dint beat full strength India side in 2023 either
And neither did they ever beat full strength Indian team in tests since 2014 in a test series and wtc final
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Yes India were without Bumrah, Ashwin, Rahul, Shreyas & Pant in the WTC 2023 final.

India were without Aussie basher Hardik Pandya in WC 2023 final.
 
India’s best ever odi sides were 2011 and 2023 team

Imo thanks to moron rohit’s selections and injuries to pant and pandya we lost the final.

Even the best version of Indian teams
Would beat most Aus title winning sides barring 2015,2003 and 2007

In sena conditions or even Asian conditions tbh.

In dead format odi


In t20 and tests India can win vs them anywhere

But again vs best ever Aus side of 2003 ish I think India would lose.
 
sweep_shot said:
Because it is Micky Mouse T20 (a format Aussies don't care much about). :inti

If it is a WTC final or an ODI WC final, Aussies should win.
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Which is the format Bangla can win any cup in? They haven't even won Asia cup ever. And your beloved Pakistan haven't even won the Asia cup for nearly 15 years now.

What format can these teams win any cups in, in the near future or ever?
 
Sachin fan said:
Which is the format Bangla can win any cup in? They haven't even won Asia cup ever. And your beloved Pakistan haven't even won the Asia cup for nearly 15 years now.

What format can these teams win any cups in, in the near future or ever?
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After Pakistan lodged complaint against Bangladesh ... not sure what these guys will do. COming out from hiding haha.
 
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