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Azeri leader says he will fight 'to the end' if Nagorno-Karabakh talks with Armenia fail [Post #166]

Recognizing a country doesn't mean you support their stance or claims, Turkey support Armenia's position over Karabakh but has diplomatic relations with Armenia. There are numerous Muslim countries that support Pakistan's stance on Kashmir but also recognize India as a state. Pakistan can recognize Armenia the way it recognizes the other 200 countries around the world without getting all chummy with them.
 
Many of you might not know, Armenia has an expatriate population in India. There are historical ties between the two countries, political and cultural. I am not going to justify any irrational comment on twitter but in Calcutta and Bombay Armenian residents are strongly integrated with local population.
 
Many of you might not know, Armenia has an expatriate population in India. There are historical ties between the two countries, political and cultural. I am not going to justify any irrational comment on twitter but in Calcutta and Bombay Armenian residents are strongly integrated with local population.

lol there only like 100 to 150 Armenians in India, they're literally not even 0.0000000000000001% of India's population of 1.3 billion people, that's the definition of a fringe minority, so any claims of "historical political and cultural" ties is laughable at best. Armenia has nothing in common with India, a few hundred people in a large country doesn't means their connection, that would like saying India has cultural ties with Iceland just because a few Indians live there.

You can support a country without conjuring up some imaginary relation to them.
 
lol there only like 100 to 150 Armenians in India, they're literally not even 0.0000000000000001% of India's population of 1.3 billion people, that's the definition of a fringe minority, so any claims of "historical political and cultural" ties is laughable at best. Armenia has nothing in common with India, a few hundred people in a large country doesn't means their connection, that would like saying India has cultural ties with Iceland just because a few Indians live there.

You can support a country without conjuring up some imaginary relation to them.

Lol that 0.0000000000000001% must have had a big impact on India if they are the reason why Indians are so actively supporting Armenia on social media.
 
Armenia, Azerbaijan accuse each other of cross-border attacks, civilian toll climbs

BAKU/YEREVAN (Reuters) - Armenia and Azerbaijan accused each other on Tuesday of firing directly into each other’s territory beyond the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict zone, as the worst regional fighting since the 1990s raged for a third day and civilian deaths mounted.

Dozens have been reported killed and hundreds wounded since clashes between Azerbaijan and its ethnic Armenian mountain enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh broke out on Sunday in a new eruption of a decades-old conflict.

In a sign that fighting was spreading, Armenia’s foreign ministry reported the first death in Armenia proper - a civilian it said was killed in an Azeri attack in the town of Vardenis more than 20 km (12 miles) from Nagorno-Karabakh.

The Armenian defence ministry said an Armenian civilian bus caught fire in the town after being hit by an Azeri drone. It was not clear if the reported civilian death was from that incident.

Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev said 10 civilians had been killed by Armenian shelling since Sunday. There was no official information about casualties among Azeri servicemen.

Nagorno-Karabakh is a breakaway region that is inside Azerbaijan but is run by ethnic Armenians and is supported by Armenia. It broke away from Azerbaijan in a war in the 1990s, but is not recognised by any country as an independent republic.

An all-out war could drag in major regional powers Russia and Turkey. Moscow has a defence alliance with Armenia, which is the enclave’s lifeline to the outside world, while Ankara backs its own ethnic Turkic kin in Azerbaijan.

The Kremlin said Moscow was in constant contact with Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan over the conflict. Any talk of providing military support for the opposing sides would only add fuel to the fire, it said.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for an immediate ceasefire and de-escalation in phone calls with the leaders of Azerbaijan and Armenia, government spokesman Steffen Seibert said.

COUNTER-ATTACKS

The Armenian defence ministry said in a statement that Azeri armed forces opened fire on a military unit in Vardenis, but that the border with Nakhchivan, an autonomous republic inside Azerbaijan, was less tense.

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry said that from Vardenis the Armenian army had shelled the Dashkesan region inside Azerbaijan. Armenia denied those reports.

Azerbaijan on Sunday reported the death of five members of a single family. Armenia said on Tuesday that a 9-year-old girl was killed in shelling, while her mother and a brother were wounded.

A mother and her child were killed in Martuni on Sunday, the defence ministry of Nagorno-Karabakh said.

The clashes have reignited concern over stability in the South Caucasus region, a corridor for pipelines carrying oil and gas to world markets.

Armenia is considering the possibility of concluding a military-political alliance with Nagorno-Karabakh, Lilit Makunts, an MP from the ruling My Step alliance, wrote on her Facebook page.

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry said both sides had attempted to recover lost ground by launching counter-attacks in the directions of Fizuli, Jabrayil, Agdere and Terter - Armenian-occupied areas of Azerbaijan that border Nagorno-Karabakh.

Armenia reported fighting throughout the night, and said that Nagorno-Karabakh’s army had repelled attacks in several directions along the line of contact.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...er-attacks-civilian-toll-climbs-idUSKBN26K0KN
 
Actually that's a weak argument cause the whole world recognizes Armenia, just cause we recognize Armenia doesn't mean we recognize their claims over Karabakh :facepalm: Even Turkey and Azerbaijan recognize Armenia as a state. By recognition we're talking about the Armenian state not the disputed lands.

Its not an argument so cant be weak or strong. Im giving you the reason.

Armenia became independent after the fall of the Soviet Empire in the early 90's. At this time, Pakistan was supporting freedom movement in Kashmir. Armenian militants decided to take land by force and have conintued occupation of this land to this day. This made Pakistan not to recognise this new country.

It's not a big deal, Pakistan choose it's self interests like every other nation. Pakistan is an independant nation not a sheep who will follow others but will do whatever it takes to stregthnen it's position.

Besides it will make no positive difference if Pakistan recognises or not. Not to Armenia and not to Pakistan.
 
Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev hails Pakistan's support over conflict with Armenia

(Karachi) President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev hailed Pakistan and Turkey's continued support for Azerbaijan over recent conflict with Armenia. He added, "We have seen who our real brothers are. These are the people of Turkey and Pakistan."

On Tuesday, the newly appointed Pakistani Ambassador Bilal Hayee conveyed greetings of President Arif Alvi and Prime Minister Imran Khan to the Azerbaijan president.

Hayee said that Pakistan supports the people of Azerbaijan on Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and it wants to deepen economic cooperation, strengthen defense relations and bring the peoples of the two countries closer together.

Pakistan's support true demonstration of brotherhood

Aliyev said that he held several meetings with PM Imran Khan and reaffirmed the strategic and fraternal relations between the two countries.

He stated that Azerbaijan has always supported Pakistan in all matters, including the Kashmir issue. "This mutual support reflects the fraternal nature of our cooperation. I hope the relations between our countries will be strengthened further," he maintained.

Ilham Aliyev said there is great potential for both countries for stimulating mutual trade and build more active investment relations. "We are grateful to Pakistan for its resolute position on the issues of Azerbaijan's territorial integrity."

"Pakistan does not recognize Armenia due to Armenia's occupation of Azerbaijani lands. This is a true demonstration of brotherhood," the Azerbaijan president said.

Aliyev said that Armenia's long-term aggression and occupation has led to the destruction of their infrastructure and cultural. "They have destroyed our historical monuments, our mosques. The mosques that have not yet been destroyed are used to keep animals. They are insulting the whole Muslim world," he remarked.

"We see that those who are with us today are the countries that have openly expressed their positions - brotherly Turkey and brotherly Pakistan," Ilham Aliyev said.

FO statement

A statement issued by Foreign Office said Pakistan is deeply concerned about the deteriorating security situation in Nagorno-Karabakh region after Armenian forces' fired shells on Azerbaijan's civilian populations.

The Armenian forces have attacked the villages of Terter, Aghdam, Fizuli and Jabrayil region and Pakistan considers it reprehensible and most unfortunate, it stated. "This could compromise peace and security of the entire region. Armenia must stop its military action to avoid further escalation," read the statement.

"Pakistan stands with the brotherly nation of Azerbaijan and supports its right of self-defence," the FO statement said.

We support Azerbaijan’s position on Nagorno-Karabakh, which is in line with the several unanimously adopted UN Security Council resolutions, it added.

The conflict

Border clashes broke out after Armenian forces ”allegedly targeted Azerbaijani civilian settlements and military positions in Upper Karabakh region.

Both sides accused each other of initiating deadly clashes that claimed at least 23 lives over a decades-long territorial dispute and threatened to draw in regional powers, Russia and Turkey.

Recent clashes could initiate a fresh war between long-standing rivals Azerbaijan and Armenia which have been locked in a territorial dispute over the Armenia-backed breakaway region of Nagorny Karabakh.

https://www.brecorder.com/news/4002...-pakistans-support-over-conflict-with-armenia
 
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Didnt know that even Armenia is not recognized by Pakistan. Isnt NK Armenian? so why support the Azeris here?
 
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Didnt know that even Armenia is not recognized by Pakistan. Isnt NK Armenian? so why support the Azeris here?

NK belongs to Azerbijan according to Int Law. It was illegally occupied in th early 90's and since the Azers have have always insited they will libertate their land. Not sure why so many are suprised these events.

Azerbaijan will take back the land, if not in this conflict , the next.

I dont support either side as it's too complext to do so.
 
NK belongs to Azerbijan according to Int Law. It was illegally occupied in th early 90's and since the Azers have have always insited they will libertate their land. Not sure why so many are suprised these events.

Azerbaijan will take back the land, if not in this conflict , the next.

I dont support either side as it's too complext to do so.

But it has always been ethnically Armenian. Only through the Soviets did the Azeris got that piece of land. Now the Armenians fought and occupied what belongs to them, though its illegal. But why would Pakistan not recognise Armenia?They got back what's their, similar to how Pakistanis see Kashmir
 
But it has always been ethnically Armenian. Only through the Soviets did the Azeris got that piece of land. Now the Armenians fought and occupied what belongs to them, though its illegal. But why would Pakistan not recognise Armenia?They got back what's their, similar to how Pakistanis see Kashmir

I know which is why I said it's complicated. Armenia has a long history of fighitng invaders and has lasted the test of time. I too believe the territory should have been given to Armenia but we can go back in history and pick out mistakes towards any people. We have to stick to what is Int law now, otherwise it would open a can of worms.

Pakistan was supporting freedom fighters in Kashmir in the early 90's when Armenia gained indpendence but at the same time, they invaded NK and occupied the land. Pakistan was left with no choice, it couldn't recognise a new nation which turned to occupation instantly while fighting the Indian occupation.

However there is a bigger picture, a more powerful hand at play here. Ill let you figure this one out.
 
But it has always been ethnically Armenian. Only through the Soviets did the Azeris got that piece of land. Now the Armenians fought and occupied what belongs to them, though its illegal. But why would Pakistan not recognise Armenia?They got back what's their, similar to how Pakistanis see Kashmir

I know which is why I said it's complicated. Armenia has a long history of fighitng invaders and has lasted the test of time. I too believe the territory should have been given to Armenia but we can go back in history and pick out mistakes towards any people. We have to stick to what is Int law now, otherwise it would open a can of worms.

Pakistan was supporting freedom fighters in Kashmir in the early 90's when Armenia gained indpendence but at the same time, they invaded NK and occupied the land. Pakistan was left with no choice, it couldn't recognise a new nation which turned to occupation instantly while fighting the Indian occupation.

However there is a bigger picture, a more powerful hand at play here. Ill let you figure this one out.

It wasn't always ethnically Armenian. During the Turkic Khanate, Karabakh was Azeri majority. The demographics of NK shifted throughout history between the two ethnic groups and this is something an Armenian told me. Even now there are Azeri majority districts. Also under UN laws it's Azerbaijani land.

That said the solution should an independent binational state, neither part of Armenia nor Azerbaijan - it could serve as a buffer.
 
It wasn't always ethnically Armenian. During the Turkic Khanate, Karabakh was Azeri majority. The demographics of NK shifted throughout history between the two ethnic groups and this is something an Armenian told me. Even now there are Azeri majority districts. Also under UN laws it's Azerbaijani land.

That said the solution should an independent binational state, neither part of Armenia nor Azerbaijan - it could serve as a buffer.

Depends how far you want to go back.



Armenia should give this land up or it will lose it all while being destroyed.

Azerbaijan were given weapons by Israel in the 1991 war with Armenia due to a few hundreds Jews living there. Now it would be wise for them to move away from the terrorist state and join forces with other nations such as Turkey.
 
Depends how far you want to go back.



Armenia should give this land up or it will lose it all while being destroyed.

Azerbaijan were given weapons by Israel in the 1991 war with Armenia due to a few hundreds Jews living there. Now it would be wise for them to move away from the terrorist state and join forces with other nations such as Turkey.

yeah but the demographics always changed. At the end of the day they're almost the same people that speak different languages and follow different religions, Azeris aren't foreign to the region they're genetically identical to Armenians and Iranians except for the language their ancestors adopted a few centuries ago so ancient Armenia is as much their history as it is the modern day Republic of Armenia's.
 
I have been to Azerbaijan quite a few times and one thing is quite certain that the relationship between Armenians and Azeris is very bitter. Much more bitter than India/Pakistan, in India/Pakistan there is no real hatred between average people, its the Governments that use this card to rally up election support however Armenians and Azeris quite literally hate each other at root levels.

On topic, I understand that region has Christian dominance and people are Armenians ethnic but land belongs to Azerbaijan as per international treaties and resolutions. If this land is handed over to Armenia or land becomes a new republic then there would be no justification of similar situation in Kashmir not being resolved. Kashmir has muslim majority and are being occupied by Indian forces.

I'm always with the people rather than the land. On principle, I want the people of Karabakh to be with Armenians and Kashmir to be with Pakistan. If one supports one stance and opposes the other its simply hypocrisy. I always believe there cannot be peace in any land if the people in there are suppressed and not free, that principle applies everywhere.
 
I have been to Azerbaijan quite a few times and one thing is quite certain that the relationship between Armenians and Azeris is very bitter. Much more bitter than India/Pakistan, in India/Pakistan there is no real hatred between average people, its the Governments that use this card to rally up election support however Armenians and Azeris quite literally hate each other at root levels.

On topic, I understand that region has Christian dominance and people are Armenians ethnic but land belongs to Azerbaijan as per international treaties and resolutions. If this land is handed over to Armenia or land becomes a new republic then there would be no justification of similar situation in Kashmir not being resolved. Kashmir has muslim majority and are being occupied by Indian forces.

I'm always with the people rather than the land. On principle, I want the people of Karabakh to be with Armenians and Kashmir to be with Pakistan. If one supports one stance and opposes the other its simply hypocrisy. I always believe there cannot be peace in any land if the people in there are suppressed and not free, that principle applies everywhere.

Then its time for you to oppose Turkey.. but Pakistan doesn't even recognize Armenia, I doubt they will care what people of Karabakh have to say, hypocrisy is the middle name of geopolitics.(goes for all of us).
 
I have been to Azerbaijan quite a few times and one thing is quite certain that the relationship between Armenians and Azeris is very bitter. Much more bitter than India/Pakistan, in India/Pakistan there is no real hatred between average people, its the Governments that use this card to rally up election support however Armenians and Azeris quite literally hate each other at root levels.

On topic, I understand that region has Christian dominance and people are Armenians ethnic but land belongs to Azerbaijan as per international treaties and resolutions. If this land is handed over to Armenia or land becomes a new republic then there would be no justification of similar situation in Kashmir not being resolved. Kashmir has muslim majority and are being occupied by Indian forces.

I'm always with the people rather than the land. On principle, I want the people of Karabakh to be with Armenians and Kashmir to be with Pakistan. If one supports one stance and opposes the other its simply hypocrisy. I always believe there cannot be peace in any land if the people in there are suppressed and not free, that principle applies everywhere.

There's a big difference. First of all the UN resolutions stipulate that Karabakh is Azerbaijan's land whereas the UN resolutions vis a vis Kashmir stipulate that the people of Kashmir shall decide in a plebiscite to either join Pak or India.
 
yeah but the demographics always changed. At the end of the day they're almost the same people that speak different languages and follow different religions, Azeris aren't foreign to the region they're genetically identical to Armenians and Iranians except for the language their ancestors adopted a few centuries ago so ancient Armenia is as much their history as it is the modern day Republic of Armenia's.

I know this too but what is your solution?

Also why do you think this has flared up now?
 
Then its time for you to oppose Turkey.. but Pakistan doesn't even recognize Armenia, I doubt they will care what people of Karabakh have to say, hypocrisy is the middle name of geopolitics.(goes for all of us).

Pakistan not recognising Armenia has nothing to do in the current situation.

I do agree hypocrisy is the bedrock of geopolitics and world would be a far better place if there were no hypocrisy.
 
I know this too but what is your solution?

Also why do you think this has flared up now?

The Armenias and Azerbaijanis are too proud to ever retreat from their positions, I think the only solution is a unilateral withdrawal and they Karabakh gets autonomy as a semi independent binational state (as in a country for 2 nations not just 1), it could either be completely independent but defer defence, finance and foreign policy to the other 2 states like how Andorra does the same with France and Spain.

Another solution would be following the Northern Ireland model, it could stay part of Azerbaijan but the ethnic Armenians would be allowed to hold either Armenian or Azerbaijani citizenship.

EDIT: Why did it flare up now? I heard it has something to do with Oil and gaspipelines but I'm not sure.
 
Iran has a lot of Azerbaijanis, I wonder how they feel about Iran supporting Armenia over them especially when they are of the same sect.
 
But it has always been ethnically Armenian. Only through the Soviets did the Azeris got that piece of land. Now the Armenians fought and occupied what belongs to them, though its illegal. But why would Pakistan not recognise Armenia?They got back what's their, similar to how Pakistanis see Kashmir

NK is Armenian, however the Armenians also control seven districts surrounding NK, which had very few Armenains before the war.
 
Iran has a lot of Azerbaijanis, I wonder how they feel about Iran supporting Armenia over them especially when they are of the same sect.

I asked an Armenian from Iran, he said the there are two kinds of Azeris in Iran. One are the ethnonationalist separatists that want a union with a Azerbaijan and obviously support Azerbaijan, they make up a significant minority. The second are Iranianan-Azeris who primarily identify as Iranian first and are loyal to the state so they support what's in Iran's interests, they're the majority right now.

Also Azeris are very well integrated in Iran, like intermarriage is very common. I've heard in places in Tehran everyone is mixed and half Azeri half Persian is an extremely common mix, there's also the fact that a lot of prominent Iranian government officials are Azeri including Ayatollah Khamenei. So they're situation seems very similar to Pashtuns in Pakistan.
 
But it has always been ethnically Armenian. Only through the Soviets did the Azeris got that piece of land. Now the Armenians fought and occupied what belongs to them, though its illegal. But why would Pakistan not recognise Armenia?They got back what's their, similar to how Pakistanis see Kashmir

Actually that's a weak argument cause the whole world recognizes Armenia, just cause we recognize Armenia doesn't mean we recognize their claims over Karabakh :facepalm: Even Turkey and Azerbaijan recognize Armenia as a state. By recognition we're talking about the Armenian state not the disputed lands.

Pakistan has a knack of sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong. Why doesn’t Pakistan recognise Armenia? Ummah kay taykaydaar bann tay hai!

I think its kinda stupid the way Pakistan makes enemies like this I mean for... and I don't know what reasons. Pakistan not recognising Armenia is just lame when even Turkey does.

It just seems very petty and immature
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Its very hard to figure out what Pakistan consider its national interests and how it makes its policies.

The reason for not recognizing Armenia is that, at a very low cost Pakistan gets excellent relations with Turkey and Azerbaijan, and that comes in handy. Such as in FATF. As well as weapon sales, and support for Pakistan's Kashmir position.

Pakistan does not have much to trade with Armenia, so very limited loss there.
 
Ottawa probing allegations Canadian tech used in Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict

The federal government said it is investigating allegations that made-in-Canada imaging and targeting systems are being used by Azerbaijan in a growing conflict with Armenia.

Questions are being raised about gear by L3Harris Wescam, a company in Burlington, Ont., that makes sensor systems containing laser designators to paint targets for laser-guided bombs launched by drones or fighter aircraft.

Arms-control advocates have documented the sale of Wescam sensor systems to Turkey, a staunch ally of Azerbaijan.

Hostilities between Armenia and Azerbaijan, two former Soviet republics, have escalated over the past three days, with dozens killed and injured in heavy fighting.

“We are aware of the allegations made that Canadian technology is being used in this conflict,” Global Affairs spokesman Michel Cimpaye said in a statement to The Globe and Mail on Tuesday.

“The Minister of Foreign Affairs immediately directed our officials to investigate these claims.”

Earlier this week, Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne issued a joint statement with his British counterpart voicing “deep concern” over reports of large-scale military action in Nagorno-Karabakh, a disputed territory between Azerbaijan and Armenia, and calling on both sides to “disavow violence."

In the latest incident on Tuesday, Armenia said one of its warplanes was shot down by a Turkish fighter jet in what would be a major escalation of the violence. Both Turkey and Azerbaijan denied it.

Turkey uses Wescam sensor systems to equip various military drones. L3Harris Wescam’s proprietary graphical overlay is visible on footage of air strikes released by the Turkish military, and its gear is visible on drones operated by the Turks.

Turkey has been accused of violating international humanitarian law with indiscriminate air strikes that harm civilians, including in northeast Syria.

At least one of the same type of drones appears to be active in the Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict.

In July, Azerbaijan’s Defence Minister announced the country would purchase Turkish drones. Defense News, a global website and magazine, reported at the time that Azerbaijan was interested in Bayraktar TB2 drones, manufactured by a joint venture that includes Turkey’s Baykar Technologies, which routinely include Wescam imaging and targeting sensor systems.

Footage of missile strikes by Azerbaijani military from Sunday posted on the internet contain a graphical overlay on the video that bears a very strong resemblance to the proprietary graphical overlays of systems manufactured by L3Harris Wescam. Turkish defence contractor Baykar’s official Twitter account has tweeted expressions of support for Azerbaijan including the flags of both countries and the statement: “We are one nation: two states.”

Kelsey Gallagher, a researcher with Project Ploughshares, a Canadian arms-control group, said Azerbaijan’s military appears to be using Canadian gear.

“Judging by segments of the graphical overlay visible in Azerbaijani airstrike footage, it appears that the Azeri Air Force is employing Canadian-made Wescam systems in the conflict.

“There’s no public record of Canada exporting these sensors to Azerbaijan. On the other hand, we have recently seen Turkey hand off Wescam hardware to its allies in Libya, in glaring contravention of Canadian and international export controls. This leaves the worrying yet likely conclusion that Turkey could be repeating this behaviour with Azerbaijan."

The Armenian National Committee of Canada, a grassroots organization representing the Armenian diaspora in the country, said in a statement Tuesday that it believes “Canada is effectively becoming complicit in the crimes committed by Azerbaijan and Turkey.”

Officials at Wescam and its parent company, L3Harris Technologies, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Turkish embassy in Canada, asked whether TB2 drones are being used in the conflict, did not immediately answer but instead sent links to stories that it said document “Armenia’s aggression against Azerbaijan.”

NDP foreign affairs critic Jack Harris urged the government to conduct a “full investigation as quickly as possible” and pay close attention to what kind of restrictions and conditions are placed on Wescam exports to Turkey.

He’s concerned that Turkey may be diverting Wescam technology to Azerbaijan in violation of the conditions of the export permit from Canada.

Last October, Ottawa announced a freeze on issuing new export permits for military shipments to Turkey, echoing similar moves by European countries after incursions by the Turks in northern Syria to attack Kurds.

In April, the federal government said it would resume accepting export permits, but said companies should expect that requests to ship Group 2 items would be denied. Group 2 is one of nine categories of military goods and includes the imaging and sensor systems that Wescam manufactures. The government said, however, that there would be exceptions for North Atlantic Treaty Organization “co-operation programs.”

Project Ploughshares said Statistics Canada data show exports to Turkey of the kind Wescam makes dropped off after the moratorium, but began trending upward again in the spring.

The federal government Tuesday declined to say whether it was concerned that Canadian military technology might have been diverted to Azerbaijan.

“We are monitoring the ongoing situation very closely, and all new permit applications for controlled items, regardless of the destination, will continue to be reviewed under Canada’s robust risk assessment framework,” said Mr. Cimpaye, the Global Affairs spokesman.

Source: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/wor...ons-canadian-tech-used-in-azerbaijan-armenia/.
 
Know next to nothing about this conflict however I do know that both Azerbaijan and Armenia are two countries overcome by poverty and corruption so this conflict will help no one other than the manufacturers of Russian weapons and military hardware. Hope the fighting ends soon.
 
I don't get it they make weapons than have a problem when they are used :20:

I think it is a strategy for them to show they don't expect their weapons to be used. More for public image. In the end nothing will come of it, as otherwise they wouldn't be able to get any future sales.
 
Azerbaijan's president has vowed to fight on until Armenian forces leave disputed territory, on the fourth day of fierce fighting in the region.

"We only have one condition: Armenian armed forces must unconditionally, fully, and immediately leave our lands," President Ilham Aliyev said.

More than 100 deaths have been reported in the heaviest fighting in years over the Nagorno-Karabakh region.

Officially part of Azerbaijan, it is governed by ethnic Armenians.

The two former Soviet republics fought a war in 1988-1994 over the territory. Although Armenia backs the self-declared republic it has never officially recognised it.

What are Armenia and Azerbaijan fighting over?

It is unclear what caused the renewed fighting, which is the heaviest since the 1994 ceasefire, and there are growing fears international powers could be dragged into the conflict.

On Wednesday French President Emmanuel Macron said he was "extremely concerned by the warlike messages" coming from Turkey, a staunch ally of Azerbaijan.

Turkey says it is "fully ready" to help Azerbaijan recover the enclave.

Meanwhile, Armenia's defence ministry released a picture of an Armenian SU-25 jet it said had been shot down by a Turkish F-16 on Tuesday. Turkey has rejected the allegation as "cheap propaganda" and Azerbaijan says Armenia is lying about the cause.
 
"Pakistani troops fighting in Azerbaijan against Armenia, says report"

https://zeenews.india.com/world/pak...-against-armenia-says-report-2313361.html/amp

:)) how reliable is this? Sounds like masala news. Apparently somebody heard a telephonic conversation between locals from Azerbaijan in which they mentioned the presence of Pakistani troops in their villages.

The indian source says it all really.

Media channels really need some checking on, not sure how they get away with some claims. I don't mean India alone, but generally worldwide. Always read reports from 'unnamed source', 'anonymous to protect identity'. I guess just throwing terms in protects the channel against claims.

The article you linked just takes it to another.

The telephonic conversation, telecasted by Free News.AM, has claimed that the locals were heard telling each other about the presence of Pakistani troops into their areas.
:facepalm:
 
Armenia-Azerbaijan: Both sides defy Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire calls

Azerbaijan and Armenia have defied calls for a ceasefire after the worst fighting in decades between the two over a disputed territory.

The US, France and Russia jointly condemned the fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh, in the southern Caucasus.

The three chair a group dedicated to resolving the conflict in the region, which is officially part of Azerbaijan but governed by ethnic Armenians.

But Turkey - an ally of Azerbaijan - dismissed demands for a ceasefire.

Heavy shelling persisted overnight in the region's main city, despite mounting international concern.

Azerbaijan and Armenia fought a war in 1988-94 over the territory. Armenia backs the self-declared republic but has never officially recognised it.

Years of negotiations have never resulted in a peace treaty. At least 100 people have reportedly been killed with hundreds wounded in the latest flare-up.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54366616
 
Armenia-Azerbaijan: Both sides defy Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire calls

Azerbaijan and Armenia have defied calls for a ceasefire after the worst fighting in decades between the two over a disputed territory.

The US, France and Russia jointly condemned the fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh, in the southern Caucasus.

The three chair a group dedicated to resolving the conflict in the region, which is officially part of Azerbaijan but governed by ethnic Armenians.

But Turkey - an ally of Azerbaijan - dismissed demands for a ceasefire.

Heavy shelling persisted overnight in the region's main city, despite mounting international concern.

Azerbaijan and Armenia fought a war in 1988-94 over the territory. Armenia backs the self-declared republic but has never officially recognised it.

Years of negotiations have never resulted in a peace treaty. At least 100 people have reportedly been killed with hundreds wounded in the latest flare-up.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54366616

Bbc trying very hard to show it as a disputed territory.
 
Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: Armenia 'ready' for ceasefire talks

Armenia's foreign ministry has said it "stands ready to engage" with France, Russia and the US on halting six days of fighting with its neighbour Azerbaijan.

Casualties have mounted in the southern Caucasus with both sides accusing each other of launching deadly attacks.

The conflict around the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh erupted on Sunday.

The enclave is officially part of Azerbaijan but run by ethnic Armenians.

The two former Soviet republics went to war over the territory between 1988 and 1994, eventually declaring a ceasefire, and they have never reached a settlement over the dispute.

France, Russia and the US, which co-chair the OSCE Minsk mediation group, have called for a ceasefire, but so far Azerbaijan has not given a positive response to proposed talks.

In the latest fighting, Azerbaijan forces said they had made further advances, but accused Armenia of artillery attacks on four villages, causing civilian casualties.

Armenia says it has shot down seven drones flying near the capital, Yerevan, but the claim has been rejected by Azerbaijan.

In a joint statement on Thursday, the presidents of France, Russia and the US called for an "immediate cessation of hostilities between the relevant military forces".

Armenia's foreign ministry responded on Friday, saying it was ready to engage with the three OSCE Minsk Group co-chairs "to re-establish a ceasefire regime based on the 1994-1995 agreements".

Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev has so far rejected talks, and his main ally, Turkey, has said a lasting ceasefire depends on "Armenians' withdrawal from every span of Azerbaijani territory".

Nagorno-Karabakh - key facts:

A mountainous region of about 4,400 sq km (1,700 sq miles)

Traditionally inhabited by Christian Armenians and Muslim Turks

In Soviet times, it became an autonomous region within the republic of Azerbaijan

Internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan, but majority of population is ethnic Armenian

Self-proclaimed authorities are not recognised by any UN member, including Armenia

An estimated one million people displaced by war in 1988-94, and about 30,000 killed

Separatist forces captured some extra territory around the enclave in Azerbaijan

Stalemate has largely prevailed since a 1994 ceasefire

Turkey openly supports Azerbaijan

Russia has a military base in Armenia
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Pakistan on Friday rejected "speculative and baseless" media reports claiming the Pakistan Army was fighting alongside Azerbaijani forces against Armenia in the breakaway Nagorno-Karabakh region.

"Such reports are irresponsible," Foreign Office spokesman Zahid Hafeez Chaudri said in a statement.

Armenian and Azerbaijani forces are currently engaged in the heaviest fighting in years over Karabakh, an ethnic Armenian province that broke away from Azerbaijan in the 1990s during the collapse of the Soviet Union. The long-simmering conflict erupted on Sunday with both sides blaming each other for the outbreak of violence.

A report published by TimesNowIndia and a few other media outlets this week claimed Prime Minister Imran Khan sent troops to the disputed territory to fight alongside the Turkish military and Azerbaijan army in Agdam.

The report quoted a telephone conversation between two locals in the area who mentioned the presence of Pakistanis in the territory.

"On Agdam’s side, they have gathered Pakistani soldiers and have taken them towards Agdam," the locals were heard telling each other, according to these media reports.

Reiterating Islamabad's position on the issue, the FO spokesman said Pakistan was deeply concerned over the deteriorating security situation in the Nagorno-Karabakh region.

"The intensive shelling by Armenian forces on Azerbaijan's civilian populations is reprehensible and most unfortunate. This could compromise the peace and security of the entire region. Armenia must stop its military action to avoid further escalation."

Pakistan supports Azerbaijan’s position on Nagorno-Karabakh, which is in line with the several unanimously adopted United Nations Security Council resolutions, Chaudri said.

On Wednesday, Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev had thanked Pakistan, Turkey and Afghanistan for their support in the fighting against Armenian forces.

Aliyev said Pakistan, Afghanistan and Turkey had all demonstrated support but added that Azerbaijan’s army did not need external help.
 
Armenia running wild with false flag stories? First Turkey and now Pakistan involvement? Seriously :facepalm:
 
France struggles for Karabakh peace breakthrough amid fierce fighting

YEREVAN/BAKU (Reuters) - A French attempt to relaunch peace talks over Nagorno-Karabakh showed no sign of a breakthrough on Saturday as Azerbaijan blamed Armenia for re-igniting their decades-old conflict.

Nagorno-Karabakh, an ethnic Armenian enclave inside Azerbaijan, said Azeri forces had again launched rockets towards its main city, Stepanakert, a week after the opposing sides began pounding each other with tanks and missiles.

The clashes are the worst since the 1990s, raising the risk of a wider regional war that could draw in Russia and Turkey amid deepening concern about stability in the South Caucasus, where pipelines carry Azeri oil and gas to world markets.

“Fierce battles continue along the entire front,” the Azeri defence ministry said on the seventh day of fighting with ethnic Armenian forces.

French President Emmanuel Macron spoke on Friday with President Ilham Aliyev of Azerbaijan and Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan of Armenia - which backs Nagorno-Karabakh - and said later in a statement he had proposed a new way to restart talks.

“The president of Azerbaijan placed the entire responsibility on the leadership of Armenia for the break-off of negotiations and the armed confrontation,” Aliyev’s press service said. Armenia says it was Azerbaijan that reopened the conflict by launching a major offensive on Sept. 27.

Armenia had said on Friday it was willing to engage with Russia, the United States and France - co-chairs of the so-called Minsk Group of the OSCE security organisation - on renewing a ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh.

But Aliyev told Al Jazeera in an interview on Friday that the Minsk group had failed for the past three decades to make progress over the dispute.

He said Azerbaijan was not ignoring ceasefire calls, but this could only be achieved if ethnic Armenian forces withdrew from Azeri territories - a reference to Nagorno-Karabakh and seven surrounding regions they have controlled since the 1990s.

“(The) conditions must be that they withdraw from the territories. We need our territories back by peaceful means and we demonstrated for 28 years our willingness to have a peaceful settlement,” Aliyev said.

Some 200 people have been reported killed in the past week and the toll may be considerably higher, as Azerbaijan has not disclosed its military losses.

Violence first broke out over Nagorno-Karabakh in 1988, when both Armenia and Azerbaijan were still part of the Soviet Union, and some 30,000 people were killed before a 1994 ceasefire.

The International Committee of the Red Cross voiced alarm at civilian deaths and injuries, including of children.

“People have been in touch with the ICRC, terrified for themselves and their families and at a loss as to where to go or what to do to stay safe,” it said. It added it was concerned about the risk of a surge in COVID-19 cases from people hiding for hours in shelters or crowding together with poor sanitation.

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Syrian recruit describes role of foreign fighters in Nagorno-Karabakh

A Syrian fighter sent into combat with Azerbaijani forces in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh has detailed the extent of foreign involvement in the new conflict with Armenia that, after six days of clashes, is taking on a regional dimension.

The deployment of 1,000 Syrian fighters working for a private Turkish security firm, as well as Ankara’s outspoken support for Azerbaijan in the worst fighting between the two neighbours since 1994, confirms Turkey’s rise as a regional power – and threatens to upset the fragile status quo in the Caucasus, long seen as Russia’s domain.

The fresh fighting showed no signs of abating on Friday as Armenia accused Azerbaijan of striking civilian infrastructure in Stepanakert, the main city in Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as targeting artillery fire at a bus carrying Russian and Armenian journalists.

Azerbaijan rejected a statement from Armenia saying Yerevan was ready to work with mediators for a ceasefire, saying Armenia must first withdraw its troops.

Ankara is now facing off with Moscow in three different theatres: the two countries support opposite sides in Syria, Libya and now Nagorno-Karabakh.

Turkey has longstanding cultural and economic ties with Azerbaijan. Russia has a military alliance with Armenia, but also maintains links to Baku’s ruling elite and sells weapons to both sides.

The fresh fighting and presence of hostile Syrian forces so close to its borders will also alarm Iran.

Several men in Syria’s last opposition stronghold of Idlib province told the Guardian this week that over the last month military commanders and brokers who claimed to represent Turkish security companies had offered them work guarding observation posts and oil and gas facilities in Azerbaijan on three- or six-month contracts.

They were offered around 10,000 Turkish lira (£1,000) a month – a huge sum of money for Syrians trapped by a decade of war and poverty.

Mustafa Khalid, who asked that his real name not be used because he was not authorised to speak to media, confirmed the previous reports, telling the Guardian he signed up on 18 September and was now stationed at a post on the line of contact which has come under sustained artillery fire since last Sunday.

The 23-year-old from Idlib city said he travelled as part of a contingent of 1,000 Syrian men from the Turkish-backed Sultan Murad, Suleiman Shah and Al Hamza divisions which left the Hawar Kilis border crossing with Turkey for a military base in Gaziantep on 23 September.

The next day they flew to Istanbul and then on to Azerbaijan via Turkish military cargo planes. Data from the Flight Radar website, which tracks aircraft movements, as well as geo-located pictures and coordinates sent to the Guardian, confirm his account.

Syrians posted to Nagorno-Karabakh appear be wearing the blue uniforms that are standard issue to Azerbaijani border guards.

“I was hesitant to come here at the beginning because I had no idea about this country and I don’t speak the language. I knew there were skirmishes between the two countries, but I didn’t know that I was coming to war. I thought it was just guard work,” Khalid said.

“I came here to make money and have a better life back in Syria where the living conditions are miserable. I consider this a job, nothing else.”

Around 200 people have already been killed in the clashes, including at least 10 Syrians and 30 civilians.

Both Turkey and Azerbaijan have denied the presence of Syrians in Nagorno-Karabakh. They have accused Armenia of deploying Syrian and Iraqi Kurdish militants to the area, but have not produced proof.

On Friday, the French president, Emmanuel Macron – already at odds with his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, on several regional issues – said intelligence reports had established that 300 fighters from “jihadist groups” in Syria had passed through Turkey on the way to Azerbaijan, saying “a red line has been crossed” and demanding an explanation.

A template for the Syrian deployment to Nagorno-Karabakh was set last December, when the Guardian first reported that Ankara was facilitating the movement of Syrian mercenaries to Libya.

Between 10,000 and 16,000 Syrians from rebel groups in the Turkish-backed Syrian National Army (SNA) umbrella have rotated on short deployments to the north African state’s desert battlefields this year – including Khalid, who worked there for four months as part of a high-ranking Syrian commander’s personal guard.

Some factions of the SNA have been accused by rights groups of abducting and raping women, and other war crimes such as looting, in previous Turkish-backed offensives against Kurdish groups in Syria.

Turkish intervention in Libya has turned the tide of the war in favour of the Ankara-supported Government of National Accord at the expense of renegade general Khalifa Haftar, who is backed by Moscow.

“The interesting thing about the Turkish-Russian relationship is that despite the fact the two countries have clear differences on many issues, they are usually good at finding at least some common ground. With every added challenge, however, that gets more difficult,” said Sinan Ülgen, the chair of EDAM, an Istanbul-based think tank.

“Moscow has called for de-escalation in Nagorno-Karabakh so far… Saying that, there will be a red line for them somewhere. If this new incident escalates it will upset a fragile balance.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-role-of-foreign-fighters-in-nagorno-karabakh
 
Ok so after looking around I found out that tanks are obsolete in modern warfare

So with the help of Turkish drones Azeris destroyed Armenian tanks before going on the offensive
than Azeri tried a tank assault but Armenians destroyed these tanks with the help of their Russian made AT Kornett ATGM (basically modern RPG)

Surely newer generation of military schools and generals are watching this war closely
 
Ok so after looking around I found out that tanks are obsolete in modern warfare

So with the help of Turkish drones Azeris destroyed Armenian tanks before going on the offensive
than Azeri tried a tank assault but Armenians destroyed these tanks with the help of their Russian made AT Kornett ATGM (basically modern RPG)

Surely newer generation of military schools and generals are watching this war closely

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Armenians using the weapon I mentioned
 
Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: Major cities hit as heavy fighting continues

Azerbaijan's second-largest city, Ganja, has been shelled by Armenian forces, as heavy clashes continue over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh enclave.

The enclave is officially part of Azerbaijan but run by ethnic Armenians.

The self-proclaimed authorities there said they hit Ganja's military airport after Azerbaijani forces shelled the region's capital, Stepanakert.

Azerbaijan says no Ganja military sites were hit. More than 220 people have died since clashes began a week ago.

Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war over Nagorno-Karabakh in 1988-94, eventually declaring a ceasefire. However, they have never reached a settlement over the dispute.

The current fighting is the worst seen since the ceasefire and the two former Soviet republics have been blaming each other.

There are fears that the actual death toll among the militaries from all sides as well as civilians could be much higher, as casualty claims have not been independently verified.

Azerbaijan's military says its forces have retaken control of seven villages since last Sunday, while Nagorno-Karabakh says its troops have "improved" their frontline positions.

Earlier this week, Armenia said it stood "ready to engage" with mediators from France, Russia and the US to try to agree a ceasefire.

Azerbaijan, which is openly backed by Turkey, has demanded the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent areas seized by ethnic Armenian troops.

Turkey condemned the shelling of Ganja, accusing Armenia of "targeting civilians".

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Azerbaijan will destroy sites inside Armenia from which cities are under fire: presidential aide

BAKU (Reuters) - Azerbaijan will destroy military targets in Armenia from which Armenia is firing on Azeri cities, an aide to Azeri President Ilham Aliyev said on Sunday.

Azerbaijan said earlier that a civilian had been killed in its second city of Ganja by Armenian rocket fire. Armenia denied the attack.

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Azerbaijan's second largest city has been attacked by missiles from Armenia as the conflict ramps up, an aide to the Azerbaijani president claimed.

The development marks a sharp escalation in the war that broke out a week ago in the South Caucasus despite calls from Russia, the US, France and the EU to call a ceasefire.

Until now, the main fighting had been between Azerbaijan and the separatist territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, an ethnic Armenian enclave inside Azerbaijan that is also known as Artsakh.

That now threatens to spill over into a direct war between the two nations.
Nearly 200 servicemen from Nagorno-Karabakh have died so far, according to officials, while Azerbaijani officials said 22 of its civilians have been killed and 74 injured.
 
Armenians, Azeris accuse each other of striking civilian areas

YEREVAN/BAKU (Reuters) - Armenia and Azerbaijan accused each other on Monday of attacking civilian areas on a ninth day of fighting, the deadliest in the South Caucasus region for more than 25 years.

Hundreds of people have been killed in the latest outbreak of war over Nagorno-Karabakh, a mountain enclave that belongs to Azerbaijan under international law but is populated and governed by ethnic Armenians.

The fighting intensified over the weekend, and prospects for a ceasefire appeared remote after an uncompromising speech from Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev on Sunday.

In a televised address to the nation, Aliyev said Azeri forces were advancing and retaking lands that they lost to ethnic Armenians in the 1990s - though Armenia disputes these gains.

He demanded that Armenia set a timetable for withdrawing from Nagorno-Karabakh and surrounding Azeri territories, and said Azerbaijan would not cease military action until that happened.

“Azerbaijan has one condition, and that is the liberation of its territories,” he said. “Nagorno-Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan.”

Speaking immediately afterwards, Armenian Defence Ministry official Artsrun Hovhannisyan said: “I don’t think that there is any risk for Yerevan (the Armenian capital), but anyway we are in war.”

The fighting has raised international concern about stability in the South Caucasus, where pipelines carry Azeri oil and gas to world markets, and about the possibility other regional powers could be dragged in -- Azerbaijan is supported by Turkey, and Armenia has a defence pact with Russia.

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NINTH DAY OF FIGHTING

On Monday, Nagorno-Karabakh said Azeri forces launched rocket strikes on its administrative centre, Stepanakert, while Azerbaijan said Armenia fired missiles at several towns outside the breakaway region.

“The enemy is firing rockets at Stepanakert and Shushi. The Defence Army response will not be long in coming,” said Vahram Pogosyan, a spokesman for the Nagorno-Karabakh leader.

Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman Shushan Stepanyan said: “Tense fights are in progress.”

Azerbaijan said Armenia had been launching missile attacks against densely populated areas and civilian infrastructure in Azerbaijan. The Azeri defence ministry said its radar system recorded that launches were made from the territory of Armenia.

“It is fake and complete misinformation that Armenia opened fire on Azeri strongholds,” said Hovhannisyan, the Armenian defence ministry official.

The clashes are the worst since the 1990s, when some 30,000 people were killed, and are spreading beyond the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave.

Ceasefire calls from Russia, France, the United States and the European Union have produced no result. Aliyev said Azerbaijan must take matters into its own hands after waiting in vain for three decades for diplomatic progress.

“The fighting has essentially put to bed the prospect of any near-term resolution to the dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh,” said analysts Alexander Stronell and Yohann Michel of the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) in London.

If there were all-out war between the two former Soviet republics, Azerbaijan would have a clear advantage. It has 81,950 regular troops and paramilitary forces, compared with 49,100 for Armenia, according to the IISS.

Azerbaijan has a “qualitative and quantitative advantage” and seems to have gained the momentum by taking control of the air, the two analysts said, but added that it was too early to be sure of the extent of any territorial gains.

Michel said it was likely that Azerbaijan had destroyed at least 30-40 enemy tanks with drones, while losing some of its own. But to control the rugged, mountainous territory, it would need to advance with its own infantry, tanks and armoured personnel carriers, he said.
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Looks like Armenia is losing? In this modern PR warfare news one cannot be sure anymore
 
Looks like Armenia is losing? In this modern PR warfare news one cannot be sure anymore

Appears so, they have been pushed back in three sectors. That too in mountain terrain.
 
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Looks like Armenia is losing? In this modern PR warfare news one cannot be sure anymore

It's confusing, both sides are claiming victory on social media. But today Armenia admitted they made "tactical withdrawals" from some areas. So that doesn't sound too good for them.
 
Tehran, Iran – With Armenia and Azerbaijan locked in a fresh conflict over the contested region of Nagorno-Karabakh, neighbouring Iran finds itself in a delicate balancing act, with political, historical and ethnic considerations.

Iran’s official stance, after having tried to resolve the long-running conflict in previous decades through diplomatic means, remains one of mediation, calling for an immediate ceasefire and dialogue.

Iran also recognises several United Nations resolutions that stipulate Nagorno-Karabakh, which is controlled by ethnic Armenians backed by Armenia, is part of Azerbaijan and that occupied Azeri lands must be returned.

The region broke away from Azerbaijan in a war during the late 1980s and early 1990s but is not recognised by any country as an independent country, including Armenia.

Iran, which shares borders with both Armenia and Azerbaijan, last week reassured Azerbaijan that it recognises its territorial integrity and that it holds an important place in Iranian foreign policy.

In this photo released by an official website of the office of the Iranian Presidency, Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani, right, shakes hands with Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev during their meeting at the Saadabad Palace in Tehran, Iran, Wednesday, Nov. 1, 2017 [Iranian Presidency Office via AP]
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani also had a phone call with Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashynian to call for conflict resolution “through political discourse and international laws”.

However, there have been allegations that Iran supports Armenia, which in turn is supported by Russia. Recently, videos circulating on social media purportedly showed military equipment being transferred to Armenia via trucks passing through an Iranian border pass.

Iran quickly denied the allegations, saying they were “baseless rumours” aimed at smearing relations with Azerbaijan. Iranian state television broadcast footage from the Nordooz border terminal where the vehicles in question were.

They were shown to be Russian Kamaz trucks, which a local official said had been purchased by Armenia before the conflict and were being transported through Iran. The trucks were shown to be carrying vehicle parts.

In this photo released by an official website of the office of the Iranian Presidency, President Hassan Rouhani, left, and Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan shake hands during a welcome ceremony at the Saadabad Palace in Tehran, Iran, Feb. 27, 2019 [Office of the Iranian Supreme Leader via AP]
Meanwhile, several rockets and shelling from the Nagorno-Karabakh fighting have landed on Iranian soil, with several shells hitting a residential area close to the border for the first time, injuring a six-year-old, on Thursday.
Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Saeed Khatibzadeh reacted to the incident, saying the country “will not tolerate” the conflict spilling into its borders.

The involvement of other countries in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, and their relations with Iran, makes the issue even more complicated.

Israel, for instance, has developed close ties with Azerbaijan and sells Baku military equipment.

Assistant to the president of Azerbaijan, Hikmet Hajiyev, said last week that Azeri forces have been using Israeli-made attack drones in the conflict. In response, Armenia recalled its ambassador from Israel.

Turkey, Baku’s strongest ally in the conflict, has thrown its unequivocal supported behind Azerbaijan.

French President Emmanuel Macron said on Friday that Turkey had sent Syrian fighters drawn from “jihadist groups” to fight for Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh and that it had “crossed a red line”. Turkey and Azerbaijan deny the allegations.

Considering the various and opposing vested interests in the region, Iranian politician Mohammad Javad Jamali believes resolving the conflict is now more difficult than it was before.

“We believe those who foment the killings, especially the US and Israel, would like the fires of conflict to remain aflame,” the former senior member of the Iranian parliament’s national security and foreign policy commission told Al Jazeera.

According to Jamali, members of the OSCE Minsk Group, especially the United States, have failed in their stated goal of ending the conflict.

The group, co-chaired by France, Russia and the US, was formed in 1992 to reach a peaceful, negotiated resolution to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Jamali believes the clash can only be resolved through peaceful means, specifically via a UN-led effort that would consider the intricate geopolitical, historical and ethnic factors involved.


“The only ones who will be hurt by this are the people of the region,” he said. “This conflict cannot go on forever in such a strategic area of the region”.

Mahmoud Ahmadi Bighash, a current member of the parliamentary national security and foreign policy commission, also believes the conflict cannot be resolved through anything but negotiations.

“The two countries must put an end to fighting through peaceful means and negotiations that do not include other countries, like the US and Israel, that don’t want the region to be peaceful,” he told Al Jazeera. “Fighting in the region will certainly be to the detriment of our country as well, and I believe we must work toward ending the conflict.”

‘Psychologically we are one nation’

Parts of modern-day Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey were once part of the Persian Empire, with communities spread on either side of the modern boundaries.

As a result, many of the ethnic Azeris who live across Iran, especially in the provinces of Ardabil and East Azerbaijan bordering Azerbaijan, feel a close kinship with people across the border.

“In terms of political divides and official borders we are two separate countries, but psychologically and religiously we are one nation,” says 42-year-old Soleiman, a resident of Tabriz, the capital of Iran’s East Azerbaijan Province.

“It’s like there’s a fight going on in your brother’s house, you would look at their problem as your problem,” he told Al Jazeera, requesting his last name be withheld to protect his privacy.

Soleiman, who was a child when Nagorno-Karabakh broke away from Azerbaijan in a bloody conflict, agrees with the UN resolutions calling for the freeing of Azeri lands, saying that Armenian troops should withdraw immediately.

“No war anywhere in the world has ever been good for anyone, and I sincerely hope this conflict would be resolved without military fighting as soon as possible.”

Several Iranian cities are also home to Armenian communities who feel just as strongly about the long-running conflict.

“It’s not the first time that the people of Artsakh have been disturbed by Azerbaijan, the first one being in 1992, right after Artsakh was declared an independent territory,” said Tehran resident Armond Ghazarian, using the Armenian name for the contested territory.

Twenty-six-year-old Ghazarian, whose Armenia-born father moved to Iran in 1993, said centuries ago, the area now known as Nagorno-Karabakh was called Kachen after the Armenian family who ruled the territory.

“It breaks my heart because I know the Armenians of Artsakh want to live in peace, and Azerbaijan is the puppet that the government of Turkey is using with the intention of eventually finishing the Armenian Genocide,” said Ghazarian, who was born in Tabriz.

Armenia says approximately 1.5 million Armenians had been systematically murdered during and shortly after World War I by the Ottoman government, an account that is officially recognised by more than 30 governments, including the US, Russia, and Germany. Turkey vehemently denies accusations of genocide, saying a few hundred thousand Armenians had died as part of the war.

Demonstrations in Iran
In the past week, several videos were published on social media showing small demonstrations in at least four cities, including Tehran and Tabriz, in support of Azerbaijan.

“Karabakh belongs to us and will continue to belong to us,” protesters can be heard chanting in one video.

Last week, imams of Friday prayers in four predominantly Azeri provinces, namely West Azerbaijan, East Azerbaijan, Ardebil and Zanjan, issued a joint statement in support of Baku.

Azerbaijan is acting in “full compliance” with the law, Islamic law and four UN Security Council resolutions, they said.

Former MP Jamali said imams hold a “non-diplomatic and non-administrative” place. They usually try to reflect the views of their people and are free to express their opinions, he said.

“But certainly, the stance of the Islamic Republic is the one announced by the officials,” he told Al Jazeera.

“Indeed we respect both our neighbouring countries, especially as we have both Azeri Turkic and Armenian people in our country,” Jamali said, “and our political efforts have always been aimed at improving relations with our neighbours.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/5/iran-nk
 
Assad blames Turkey for Nagorno-Karabakh fighting, Russia sees 'terrorism' risk

YEREVAN/BAKU (Reuters) - Syrian President Bashar al-Assad accused Turkish counterpart Tayyip Erdogan of being the main instigator in the deadliest fighting between Armenian and Azeri forces for more than 25 years.

In an interview published on Tuesday that is likely to exacerbate international frictions over the clashes in the South Caucasus, Assad also said militants from Syria were being deployed to the conflict area.

Turkey has denied involvement in the fighting in and around Nagorno-Karabakh, a mountain enclave that belongs to Azerbaijan under international law but is governed by ethnic Armenians, and has dismissed accusations that it sent mercenaries to the area.

But Assad told Russian news agency RIA: “He (Erdogan) ... was the main instigator and the initiator of the recent conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh between Azerbaijan and Armenia.”

Reiterating accusations first levelled by French President Emmanuel Macron that Turkey has sent Syrian jihadists to fight in the conflict, Assad said: “Damascus can confirm this.”

Assad appeared to offer no evidence for his allegation. Ankara, which backs rebels trying to oust him, did not respond immediately but has described similar accusations as part of attempts by Armenia to create “dark propaganda” about Turkey.

The fighting that broke out on Sept. 27 has increased concern that a wider conflict could be triggered, dragging in Turkey, which has expressed solidarity with Azerbaijan, and Russia, which has a defence pact with Armenia.

The head of Russia’s SVR Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin, underlined Moscow’s concerns by warning that Nagorno-Karabakh could become a launch pad for “international terrorist organisations” to enter Russia and other countries.

But Russian news agency TASS also quoted him as saying in a statement that he expected Armenia and Azerbaijan to return to the negotiating table.

LONG-RUNNING CONFLICT

The fighting is the latest in a decades-old conflict that is closely watched abroad, partly because of Nagorno-Karabakh’s proximity to pipelines that carry Azeri gas and oil to Europe.

Nearly 300 people have been reported killed - and many more are feared dead - in the worst fighting since a 1991-94 war that killed about 30,000.

Azerbaijan says Azeri cities outside Nagorno-Karabakh have been struck, and both sides say the other has hit civilian areas. Each denies targeting civilians.

Armenia’s defence ministry said the situation was now “relatively calm”, but it remained tense. The Azeri defence ministry told the army to be ready to launch “large-scale” strikes on military infrastructure if Armenia fired short-range Russian-made Iskander missiles.

Nagorno-Karabakh said 244 of its servicemen and 19 civilians had been killed since Sept. 27 and many more have been wounded.

The Azeri prosecutor’s office said 27 Azeri civilians had been killed in the renewed fighting. Azerbaijan has not provided details of its military casualties.

Ceasefire appeals led by the United States, Russia and France, which have for years led mediation efforts, have failed to halt the fighting.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said during a visit to Azerbaijan’s capital, Baku, on Tuesday that international peace efforts had achieved no concrete results in decades and a ceasefire alone would not end the fighting.

“The whole world now needs to understand this cannot go on like this,” Cavusoglu said after talks with Azeri President Ilham Aliyev, who hailed Turkey’s support and Ankara’s “stabilising role in the region.”

Armenia has said it will engage with Washington, Paris and Moscow on peace moves. Azerbaijan says Armenia must set a timetable to withdraw from Nagorno-Karabakh and surrounding Azeri territories, and wants Turkey involved in peace efforts.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ting-russia-sees-terrorism-risk-idUSKBN26R0T2
 
Nagorno-Karabakh: Iran warns of 'regional war' as fighting rages

Iran has warned that renewed fighting between its neighbours Azerbaijan and Armenia could escalate into a wider regional war.

President Hassan Rouhani said he hoped to "restore stability" to the region following days of heavy clashes over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh enclave.

The enclave is officially part of Azerbaijan but run by ethnic Armenians.

The current fighting is the worst seen in decades, and both sides have blamed each other for the violence.

"We must be attentive that the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan does not become a regional war," President Rouhani said on Wednesday.

"Peace is the basis of our work and we hope to restore stability to the region in a peaceful way," he added.

President Rouhani also said it was "totally unacceptable" for any stray shells and missiles to land on Iranian soil.

His comments followed reports that shells had landed on villages in Iran, just across from its northern border with Armenia and Azerbaijan.

"Our priority is the security of our cities and villages," President Rouhani said.

Iranian Border Guards Commander Qasem Rezaei also said his forces had been placed "in necessary formation" across from the fighting.

"Since the beginning of the conflict... a number of artillery shells and rockets have hit the territory of [Iran]," he said, according to the Tasnim news agency.

"Our border guards are vigilant and have moved into the necessary formation. They are fully monitoring and controlling the borders," he added.

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New fighting as Russia, U.S. and France seek Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire

YEREVAN/BAKU/GENEVA (Reuters) - Azerbaijan and ethnic Armenians fought new clashes on Thursday before talks at which the United States, France and Russia will discuss how to secure a ceasefire and avert a wider war in the South Caucasus.

Azeri Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov will meet U.S., Russian and French envoys in Geneva on Thursday and Armenia’s foreign minister, Zohrab Mnatsakanyan, is expected to meet officials form the three countries in Moscow on Monday.

The talks mark the start of a concerted drive by the three powers to halt fighting that flared on Sept. 27, increasing concerns about the security of pipelines in Azerbaijan that carry natural gas and oil to Europe.

Washington, Paris and Moscow are co-chairs of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe’s (OSCE) Minsk Group that has led mediation in decades of conflict over the mountain enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Under international law, Nagorno-Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan but it is populated and governed by ethnic Armenians, who broke away in a 1991-94 war that killed about 30,000.

“The position of the United States has been clear and has not changed: both sides must cease hostilities immediately and work with the Minsk Group Co-Chairs to return to substantive negotiations as soon as possible,” a U.S. spokesman in Geneva said.

Hours before the talks were due to start, Azerbaijan said the city of Ganja, deep inside the former Soviet republic, had been shelled by Armenian forces.

One civilian had been killed in Azerbaijan’s Goranboy region and other villages and towns were fired on by ethnic Armenian forces, it said.

Azeri authorities say 30 civilians have been killed and 143 wounded since Sept. 27 but have not disclosed information about military casualties.

Nagorno-Karabakh said its main administrative centre, Stepanakert, had been shelled and that 30 servicemen had been killed, taking its military death toll to 350 since Sept. 27. It says 19 civilians have also been killed and many wounded.

Following the latest reports of fighting, Armenia said it had dismissed the head of its National Security Service in a presidential decree. It gave no reason.

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FEARS OF A WIDER WAR

The fighting has raised international concern that Turkey, a close ally of Azerbaijan, and Russia, which has a defence pact with Armenia, could be sucked into the conflict.

The warring sides have ignored repeated ceasefire calls and the Azeri and Armenian leaders have been at odds over their conditions for halting fighting.

Azeri President Ilham Aliyev’s main demand is for Armenia to set a timetable for a withdrawal from Nagorno-Karabakh and surrounding Azeri territories, and wants Turkey involved in peacemaking.

He told Euronews in an interview that Bayramov’s attendance at the Geneva talks “shows who wants negotiations.”

Azerbaijan’s foreign ministry dismissed calls for a unilateral ceasefire which it said “maintain the status quo based on occupation.”

Armenia has ruled out a withdrawal from territory it considers historic homelands. It has also accused Turkey of military involvement in the conflict and says it has sent in mercenaries, allegations denied by Ankara.

“Our position has been and remains that the Karabakh issue cannot be solved through violence,” Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan told Euronews.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, who has accused the Minsk Group of neglecting the crisis for decades, said in comments published on Thursday that Ankara would continue to support “our Azerbaijani brothers with all our resources.”

“I renew my call for the international community to ... take steps to end Armenia’s occupation of Azeri lands,” he told Qatar’s The Peninsula newspaper.
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Moscow talks raise hopes of a ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh conflict

BAKU/YEREVAN (Reuters) - Azeri and ethnic Armenian forces fought new clashes on Friday, while plans to hold talks in Moscow raised hopes of ending the deadliest battles in the South Caucasus for more than 25 years.

The Armenian and Azeri foreign ministers were expected to attend the talks in the Russian capital later on Friday, a day after France, Russia and the United States launched a concerted peace drive at a meeting in Geneva.

“We are moving towards a truce soon even if the situation is still fragile,” French President Emmanuel Macron’s office said after he spoke to the Armenian and Azeri leaders.

The Armenian government said Friday’s talks would focus exclusively on a cessation of hostilities and humanitarian issues, which it identified as exchanges of bodies and prisoners of war.

If the warring sides’ foreign ministers meet, it will be the first direct contact known to have taken place between Armenia and Azerbaijan since new fighting broke out in the former Soviet republics’ decades-old conflict on Sept. 27.

More than 400 people have been killed in the fighting in and around Nagorno-Karabakh, a mountain enclave which under international law belongs to Azerbaijan but is populated and governed by ethnic Armenians.

The fighting has raised fears that Turkey, an ally of Azerbaijan, and Russia, which has a defence pact with Armenia, will be dragged into the conflict. It has also increased concern about the security of oil and gas pipelines in Azerbaijan that carry natural gas and oil to Europe.

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry said there had been fierce clashes with ethnic Armenian forces during the night along the line of contact that divides the two sides.

Stepanakert, the city ethnic Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh consider the capital of an independent state, was being shelled, the enclave’s defence ministry said.

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CEASEFIRE CALLS

Fighting has continued despite the talks in Geneva on Thursday, details of which have not been released.

Azeri Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov agreed to attend the Geneva talks with French, U.S. and Russian envoys. Armenian Foreign Minister Zohrab Mnatsakanyan did not take part but was expected to meet officials from the three powers in Moscow on Monday.

Washington, Paris and Moscow have led mediation over Nagorno-Karabakh for almost three decades as co-chairs of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe’s Minsk Group. A ceasefire has been violated repeatedly since the end of a 1991-94 war that killed about 30,000 people.

Azerbaijan said on Thursday that 31 Azeri civilians have been killed and 164 wounded since Sept. 27. It has not disclosed information about military casualties.

Nagorno-Karabakh said on Friday 376 of its military personnel and 22 civilians had been killed since Sept. 27.

Azeri President Ilham Aliyev’s main demand for a ceasefire is for Armenia to set a timetable for a withdrawal from Nagorno-Karabakh and surrounding Azeri territories.

Armenia has ruled out a withdrawal from territory it considers its historic homelands. It has also accused Turkey of military involvement in the conflict and sending in mercenaries, allegations denied by Ankara.

In a sign of alarm in the region, the head of a six-country military alliance led by Russia and including Armenia, warned on Thursday that the group could intervene if Armenian sovereignty were threatened.
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Real update is...

Azer's are using drones to pound the Armenians who have no answer. Azeris have taken some land but only small sectors on the outskirts of their occupied land.

Russia has said it cannot intervene as the fighting is on occupied land.

Turkey is sticking to helping Azeris take back their land.

Both parties will meet Russia soon but nothing will come of it, the fighting will go on.
 
Nagorno-Karabakh: Armenia and Azerbaijan agree ceasefire

Armenia and Azerbaijan have agreed a temporary ceasefire in the conflict in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced the agreement just before 03:00 local time (01:00 BST), following 10 hours of talks in Moscow.

The two countries will now begin "substantive" talks, he said.

More than 300 people have died and thousands displaced since the latest violence in the long-running conflict broke out on 27 September.

The hostilities will be halted from midday (08:00 GMT) on Saturday, to allow an exchange of prisoners and the recovery of dead bodies.

Nagorno-Karabakh is run by ethnic Armenians although it is officially part of Azerbaijan.

The two former Soviet republics have blamed each other for the latest outbreak of violence - the worst in decades.

Russia has a military base in Armenia and both are members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) alliance.

However, Moscow also has good relations with Azerbaijan.

What's the latest on the ground?
On Friday the Armenian defence ministry said fighting continued through the day, despite the talks being held in Moscow.

On Thursday, Armenia accused Azerbaijan of deliberately shelling a historic cathedral in Nagorno-Karabakh. Pictures showed serious damage at the Holy Saviour Cathedral in Shusha city (known as Shushi in Armenian).

At the same time, Azerbaijan said that its second-largest city, Ganja, and the region of Goranboy had been shelled by Armenian forces, with at least one civilian killed.

Speaking to the BBC earlier this week, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan warned of a "genocide" in the region, and said it was "Armenia, land of Armenians".

The clashes have displaced half of Nagorno-Karabakh's population - about 70,000 people - officials said.

The region's main city, Stepanakert, has suffered several days of shelling with residents sheltering in basements and much of the city left without power.

Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war over Nagorno-Karabakh in 1988-94, eventually declaring a ceasefire. However, they never reached a settlement in the dispute.

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Nagorno-Karabakh: Armenia and Azerbaijan shaky ceasefire in force

A temporary ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan has begun following nearly two weeks of fierce fighting in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

However, less than an hour into the truce, which came into force at midday local time (08:00 GMT), each side accused the other of breaking it.

Armenia and Azerbaijan also accused each other of bombarding civilian areas ahead of the ceasefire.

The truce aims to enable an exchange of prisoners and the recovery of bodies.

More than 300 people have died and thousands been displaced since the latest violence in the long-running conflict broke out on 27 September.

Nagorno-Karabakh is run by ethnic Armenians although it is officially part of Azerbaijan.

The two former Soviet republics have blamed each other for the latest outbreak of violence - the worst in decades.

What's the latest on the ground?

Armenia's defence ministry said Azeri forces had launched an attack five minutes after the truce had been due to come into effect, with ethnic Armenian forces responding. Azeri forces were also bombarding a town, the defence ministry said.

Meanwhile Azerbaijan's defence ministry said Armenia was "blatantly violating the ceasefire regime" and firing into the Azeri regions of Terter and Agdam. Armenia denied this.

There was also intense fighting ahead of the ceasefire. The self-declared ethnic Armenian authorities in Nagorno-Karabakh said Azerbaijan fired missiles at civilian neighbourhoods of the main city, Stepanakert, while Armenia accused Azeri forces of intensifying drone strikes.

For its part, Azerbaijan said Armenia had shelled populated areas near Nagorno-Karabakh and said it was returning fire.

On Thursday, Armenia accused Azerbaijan of deliberately shelling a historic cathedral in Nagorno-Karabakh. Pictures showed serious damage at the Holy Saviour Cathedral in Shusha city (known as Shushi in Armenian).

At the same time, Azerbaijan said that its second-largest city, Ganja, and the region of Goranboy had been shelled by Armenian forces, with at least one civilian killed.

Speaking to the BBC earlier this week, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan warned of a "genocide" in the region, and said it was "Armenia, land of Armenians".

The clashes have displaced half of Nagorno-Karabakh's population - about 70,000 people - officials said.

Stepanakert has suffered several days of shelling with residents sheltering in basements and much of the city left without power.

Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war over Nagorno-Karabakh in 1988-94, eventually declaring a ceasefire. However, they never reached a settlement in the dispute.

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Armenia Azerbaijan: Reports of fresh shelling dent ceasefire hopes

There have been reports of fresh shelling in Nagorno-Karabakh, just hours after a ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan came into force.

Blasts hit Stepanakert, the disputed region's capital, on Saturday evening, say eyewitnesses and Armenian media.

Both sides had previously accused the other of continuing bombardments in other areas.

After two weeks of fighting, the two countries agreed to a temporary truce during talks in Moscow on Friday.

The now-fragile ceasefire was to allow the two countries to exchange prisoners and recover bodies from the recent bout of fighting.

More than 300 people have died and thousands been displaced since the latest violence in the long-running conflict broke out on 27 September.

Nagorno-Karabakh is run by ethnic Armenians although it is officially part of Azerbaijan.

The two former Soviet republics have blamed each other for the latest outbreak of violence - the worst in decades.

How did the ceasefire come about?
It was agreed after 10 hours of talks in the Russian capital, Moscow. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the two countries would now begin "substantive" talks.

However, Armenian Foreign Minister Zohrab Mnatsakanyan later described the talks as "rather difficult" and said Armenia wanted Nagorno-Karabakh to be recognised internationally as an independent state.

Self-declared Karabakh officials echoed this call and accused Azerbaijan of using ceasefire talks as cover to prepare fresh attacks.

Meanwhile, Azeri Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov said not enough pressure had been put on Armenia during the talks and the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh could not remain as it was.

Azerbaijan expected to take control of more territory and the ceasefire would last only as long as it took for the Red Cross to arrange for bodies to be exchanged, he said.

Turkey, which backs Azerbaijan, said the truce was Armenia's "last chance" to withdraw forces from the disputed territory.

Russia has a military base in Armenia and both are members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) alliance.

However, Moscow also has good relations with Azerbaijan.

What's the latest on the ground?
Armenia's defence ministry said Azeri forces had launched an attack five minutes after the truce had been due to come into effect, with ethnic Armenian forces responding. Azeri forces were also bombarding a town, the defence ministry said.

Meanwhile Azerbaijan's defence ministry said Armenia was "blatantly violating the ceasefire regime" and firing into the Azeri regions of Terter and Agdam. Armenia denied this.

There was also intense fighting ahead of the ceasefire. The self-declared ethnic Armenian authorities in Nagorno-Karabakh said Azerbaijan fired missiles at civilian neighbourhoods of the main city, Stepanakert, while Armenia accused Azeri forces of intensifying drone strikes.

For its part, Azerbaijan said Armenia had shelled populated areas near Nagorno-Karabakh and said it was returning fire.

On Thursday, Armenia accused Azerbaijan of deliberately shelling a historic cathedral in Nagorno-Karabakh. Pictures showed serious damage at the Holy Saviour Cathedral in Shusha city (known as Shushi in Armenian).

At the same time, Azerbaijan said that its second-largest city, Ganja, and the region of Goranboy had been shelled by Armenian forces, with at least one civilian killed.

Speaking to the BBC earlier this week, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan warned of a "genocide" in the region, and said it was "Armenia, land of Armenians".

The clashes have displaced half of Nagorno-Karabakh's population - about 70,000 people - officials said.

Stepanakert has suffered several days of shelling with residents sheltering in basements and much of the city left without power.

Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war over Nagorno-Karabakh in 1988-94, eventually declaring a ceasefire. However, they never reached a settlement in the dispute.

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There have been reports of fresh shelling in Nagorno-Karabakh, just hours after a ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan came into force.

Blasts hit Stepanakert, the disputed region's capital, on Saturday evening, say eyewitnesses and Armenian media.

Both sides had previously accused the other of continuing bombardments in other areas.

After two weeks of fighting, the two countries agreed to a temporary truce during talks in Moscow on Friday.

The now-fragile ceasefire was to allow the two countries to exchange prisoners and recover bodies from the recent bout of fighting.

More than 300 people have died and thousands been displaced since the latest violence in the long-running conflict broke out on 27 September.
 
Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire strained by new fighting reports

BAKU/YEREVAN (Reuters) - Azerbaijan and ethnic Armenian forces accused each other on Monday of launching new attacks in and around Nagorno-Karabakh, increasing strains on a two-day old humanitarian ceasefire intended to end heavy fighting over the mountain enclave.

Russia, which brokered the ceasefire, appealed for both sides to respect it and Luxembourg reiterated European Union calls for Turkey, an ally of Azerbaijan, to do more to secure an end to hostilities that have killed hundreds of people.

The fighting, the deadliest over Nagorno-Karabakh in over 25 years, is being watched closely abroad partly because of the proximity of the fighting to Azeri gas and oil pipelines and the risk of regional powers Turkey and Russia being dragged in.

Both Ankara and Moscow are under growing pressure to use their influence in the region to end the fighting.

The humanitarian ceasefire is meant to allow ethnic Armenian forces and Azerbaijan to swap prisoners and bodies of people killed in two weeks of fighting over Nagorno-Karabakh, which is internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but governed and populated by ethnic Armenians.

But the ceasefire has frayed quickly. Azerbaijan said on Sunday it launched airstrikes against an Armenian regiment, following what it said was an Armenian rocket attack on an apartment building. Armenia denied carrying out such an attack.

On Monday, Azerbaijan’s defence ministry said Armenian forces had tried to attack its positions around the Aghdere-Aghdam and Fizuli-Jabrail regions, and were shelling territories in the Goranboy, Terter and Aghdam regions inside Azerbaijan.

Nagorno-Karabakh said its forces had inflicted losses on Azeri forces and that large-scale military operations were continuing in the Hadrut area of the mountain enclave.

Reuters could not independently verify the reports.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Russia, which has a defence pact with Armenia, was monitoring the events and asked Azeri and ethnic Armenian forces to respect the ceasefire.

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APPEALS TO TURKEY

Zohrab Mnatsakanyan, Armenia’s foreign minister, met Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Moscow. He accused Azerbaijan of acting to expand Turkey’s influence in the region and of using pro-Turkish mercenaries - charges Ankara has denied.

Accusing Azerbaijan of ceasefire violations, Mnatsakanyan said: “We want the ceasefire, we want verification mechanisms on the ground, which will indicate the perpetrator, which will demonstrate the party, which is not faithful to this ceasefire.”

Speaking before a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Berlin, Luxembourg’s foreign minister, Jean Asselborn, urged Turkey to do more to end the latest flare-up of the decades-old conflict.

“Turkey has not called for a truce yet, and I believe they are completely wrong with this position,” Asselborn said.

“I think the message from Luxembourg will be a call on Turkey, a NATO member, to help arrange a ceasefire quickly.”

Azeri President Ilham Aliyev repeated calls for Turkey, which has voiced strong support for Azerbaijan since the fighting began, to be involved in peacemaking. Mediation has for years been led by France, Russia and the United States.

“Even if many Western countries do not want to accept it, Turkey’s word is big, it’s fully independent,” he said.

The renewed fighting is the worst since a 1994 ceasefire ended a war over Nagorno-Karabakh that killed at least 30,000.

Azerbaijan said 41 Azeri civilians had been killed and 207 wounded in the fighting since Sept. 27. Azerbaijan has not disclosed information about military casualties.

Nagorno-Karabakh has said 429 of its servicemen and more than 20 civilians have been killed in the fighting.
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Humanitarian crisis feared as Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire buckles

YEREVAN/BAKU (Reuters) - Armenia and Azerbaijan accused each other on Tuesday of violating a humanitarian ceasefire agreed three days ago to quell fighting over Nagorno-Karabakh, drawing warnings from international groups of a humanitarian crisis in the region.

A Reuters cameraman witnessed shelling in the town of Martuni in Nagorno-Karabakh, a mountain enclave which is internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but governed and populated by ethnic Armenians.

A Reuters television crew in Terter in Azerbaijan also said the city centre was being shelled earlier on Tuesday.

The Russian-brokered ceasefire, aimed at allowing the sides to swap prisoners and bodies of those killed, is buckling, dimming peace prospects after deadly clashes broke out on Sept. 27..

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry said Armenian forces were shelling the Azeri territories of Goranboy and Aghdam, as well as Terter, and “grossly violating the humanitarian truce”.

“Azeri armed forces are not violating the humanitarian ceasefire,” defence ministry spokesman Vagif Dargiahly said.

Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman Shushan Stepanyan denied the accusation. She said Azeri forces had resumed military operations after an overnight lull, “supported by active artillery fire in the southern, northern, northeastern and eastern directions”.

The flare-up of fighting is the worst since a 1991-94 war over Nagorno-Karabakh that killed about 30,000.

It is being closely watched abroad partly because it is close to Azeri gas and oil pipelines to Europe, and Turkey and Russia risk being dragged in. Russia has a defence pact with Armenia, while Turkey is allied with Azerbaijan.

Turkey is not involved in the mediation, which has been led by France, Russia and the United States. Ankara says it backs Azerbaijan’s offensive to “retake its occupied lands.

Nationalist Turkish politician Devlet Bahceli, whose party supports President Erdogan’s AKP in parliament, accused the West and Russia of blocking Turkey from the talks and described the moves proposed so far, including the ceasefire, as “traps”.

Azerbaijan must secure Nagorno-Karabakh by “hitting Armenia over the head over and over again”, Bahceli said.

Armenian President Armen Sarkissian told Bild newspaper he was concerned about Turkey’s behaviour during the crisis and urged the international community to do more to condemn Ankara - which has denied military involvement in Nagorno-Karabakh.

“I worry because, firstly, there is a third party involved. If it were only about Nagorno-Karabakh and Azerbaijan, I would be much more hopeful that the conflict can be contained,” he said.

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DEAD AND WOUNDED

The death toll has continued to rise, meanwhile. Ethnic Armenian officials in Nagorno-Karabakh said their military death toll was 542, up 17 from Monday.

Azerbaijan has reported 42 Azeri civilian deaths and 206 wounded since Sept. 27. It has not disclosed military casualties.

Martin Schuepp, Eurasia regional director for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), said his organisation was in “continuous discussions” to facilitate the handover of detainees or bodies of those killed but no meaningful agreement had been reached.

“The security situation has also been such for us and our teams that it has not been possible for us to access all locations that might have been affected,” Schuepp said.

The conflict is also worsening the spread of COVID-19 across both countries, Tarik Jasarevic told a United Nations briefing in Geneva.

Armenia’s new cases had doubled over the past 14 days as of Monday, while new infections were up approximately 80% over the past week in Azerbaijan, Jasarevic said, warning of “direct disruption to health care and a further burden on health systems that are already stretched during the COVID pandemic.”

With tens of thousands of people potentially needing assistance over the next three months, the ICRC has issued an appeal for another 9.2 million Swiss francs ($10.10 million) to fund its humanitarian efforts in the region, Schuepp added.
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About 600 people are now reported to have died in clashes between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces over the mountain enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh
 
Nagorno-Karabakh tensions rise sharply, Azerbaijan warns over pipelines

YEREVAN/BAKU (Reuters) - Azerbaijan accused Armenia on Wednesday of trying to attack its gas and oil pipelines and warned of a “severe” response as tensions rose sharply around a fraying ceasefire in the mountain enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Armenia hit back by saying Azeri forces wanted to seize control of the tiny territory in the South Caucasus, which is governed by ethnic Armenians, and accused Azerbaijan and its ally Turkey of “aggression” despite Saturday’s ceasefire deal.

The angry rhetoric prompted Russia to appeal again for both sides to observe the humanitarian ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh, which is internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan.

But Moscow and Turkey also exchanged recriminations over the fighting that has killed more than 500 people since Sept. 27.

Fears are growing that the two big regional powers could be sucked into a conflict that is being fought close to Azeri pipelines which carry gas and oil to international markets.

“Armenia is trying to attack and take control of our pipelines,” Azeri President Ilham Aliyev said in an interview with Turkish broadcaster Haberturk.

“If Armenia tries to take control of the pipelines there, I can say that the outcome will be severe for them,” he said.

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry said separately that it would destroy all military facilities in Armenia that targeted Azeri civilian locations.

The Armenian defence ministry has denied firing on civilian targets, but said it reserved the right to target any military installations and combat movements in Azerbaijan.

It said on Wednesday that the Azeri side had opened fire towards the territory of Armenia and destroyed military equipment.

In a televised speech after Aliyev spoke, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said the situation in the conflict area was “very difficult” and that Azerbaijan and Turkey did not want “to stop their aggression”.

Azerbaijan was trying to occupy Nagorno-Karabakh, he said, using similar language to Azeri leaders who say Armenian forces are occupying the territory.

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NEW CEASEFIRE VIOLATIONS

The fighting in one of the former Soviet Union's "frozen conflicts" is the worst since a 1991-94 war in which about 30,000 people were killed as the enclave broke away from Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan has greater firepower than the Armenian forces and says it has made territorial gains since the latest fighting broke out on Sept. 27. Nagorno-Karabakh has acknowledged some setbacks but says the situation is “under control”.

The ceasefire, brokered by Russia, was meant to allow the sides to swap prisoners and bodies of those killed, but the continued fighting has hindered those efforts.

The Kremlin and the Russian defence and foreign ministers issued new appeals for Azerbaijan and Armenia to observe the ceasefire as it buckled on Wednesday.

Russia has, with the United States and France, long led mediation over Nagorno-Karabakh by the OSCE security watchdog’s “Minsk Group”. Moscow has a defence pact with Armenia and is worried by Turkey and Azerbaijan suggesting the conflict could be solved militarily.

“We do not agree with the position voiced by Turkey, that was also expressed several times by President Aliyev,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

Lavrov said it would be right to deploy Russian military observers on Nagorno-Karabakh’s line of contact, which separates the two sides, but that it was up to Azerbaijan and Armenia to decide.

Despite criticism from NATO allies of its stance in the conflict, Turkey reiterated its support for Azerbaijan.

In a speech to lawmakers from his ruling AK Party in parliament, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said the Minsk Group was stalling in dealing with the conflict, and said Nagorno-Karabakh must be given back to Azerbaijan.

Erdogan also denied media reports that Turkey has sent Syrian fighters to Azerbaijan.
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Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire hopes sink as death toll rises

BAKU/YEREVAN (Reuters) - Hopes of a humanitarian ceasefire ending fighting over Nagorno-Karabakh sank further on Thursday as the death toll mounted and Armenia and Azerbaijan accused each other of launching new attacks.

Armenia accused Turkey of blocking flights carrying emergency aid from using its airspace, and Azerbaijan’s president warned of “new victims and new bloodshed” from fighting over the mountain enclave that broke out on Sept. 27.

Azeri President Ilham Aliyev demanded that Armenia “halt attempts to capture liberated territories back” and said his country would take all regions of Nagorno-Karabakh if Armenia “acts negatively.”

Last Saturday’s ceasefire, aimed at letting the sides swap detainees and bodies of those killed in the clashes, has had little impact on the fighting around Nagorno-Karabakh, a mountain territory internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but populated and governed by ethnic Armenians.

In the deadliest flare-up since a 1990s war killed about 30,000 people, 604 Nagorno-Karabakh defence personnel have been killed, ethnic Armenian authorities say.

On Thursday, three Azeri civilians were killed and three were wounded during a funeral in Azerbaijan’s Terter region when an artillery shell fell on a cemetery, presidential aid Hikmet Hajiyev said on Twitter.

That would add to Azeri estimates provided on Wednesday that 43 civilians had so far been killed. Baku does not disclose military casualties. The prosecutor’s office said earlier on Thursday that two civilians had been wounded in shelling of the Aghdam area.

The Armenian prosecutor-general’s office said Azeri drones had killed two soldiers in the Vardenis region of Armenia on Wednesday, raising the Armenian military death toll to five. The servicemen were not involved in military action, it said.

A tweet from Nagorno-Karabakh’s ombudsman accused Azerbaijan of using heavy rockets to target civilian infrastructure in the town of Stepanakert.

Reuters could not independently verify the reports.

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HUMANITARIAN CONCERNS

International organisations, including the International Committee of the Red Cross, have warned that the conflict, coming on top of the COVID-19 pandemic, could leave tens of thousands of people in need of aid over coming months.

Zareh Sinanyan, Armenian High Commissioner for Diaspora Affairs, said the delivery of 100 tonnes of aid from the United States was being delayed as Turkey had prohibited Armenia-bound humanitarian aid flights over its airspace.

Armenia’s civil aviation committee was told on Wednesday the Qatar Airways flight from Los Angeles was cancelled but gave no reasons, said the committee’s head, Tatevik Revazyan.

“We have grounds to claim that Turkey closed the air route deliberately,” Revazyan told Reuters, adding alternative routes over Russia or Georgia were being sought.

Turkey’s foreign ministry, which handles airspace issues, was not immediately available to comment.

Aside from humanitarian concerns, fears are growing of Russia and Turkey being sucked in. Turkey’s military exports to its ally Azerbaijan have risen six-fold this year, data shows, and Armenia has a defence pact with Russia.

In a phone call on Wednesday with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, Russian leader Vladimir Putin expressed concerns about the participation of Middle East fighters in the conflict, though Turkey and Azerbaijan deny the presence of such fighters.

The fighting is also close to Azeri pipelines which carry natural gas and oil to international markets. Aliyev accused Armenia on Wednesday of trying to attack the pipelines, a charge that Armenia denied.
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New clashes in Nagorno-Karabakh; Pompeo says Turkey makes situation worse

YEREVAN/BAKU (Reuters) - Armenian and Azeri forces fought new clashes on Friday, defying hopes of ending nearly three weeks of fighting over the Nagorno-Karabakh enclave, and U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blamed Turkey for inflaming the situation by arming the Azeris.

The worst outbreak of violence in the South Caucasus since Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war over the enclave in the 1990s, the fighting risks creating a humanitarian disaster, especially if it draws in Russia and Turkey.

Nagorno-Karabakh is internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but populated and governed by ethnic Armenians.

Turkey has increased military exports sixfold this year to its close ally Azerbaijan. Russia, is close to both sides but has a defence pact with Armenia. News agency RIA reported the Russian navy had started planned military exercises in the Caspian Sea.

There were further signs on Friday that a Russian-brokered ceasefire agreed last Saturday to allow the sides to swap detainees and the bodies of those killed had all but broken down.

Armenia and Azerbaijan each accused the other of launching attacks, and each said it had the upper hand.

Armenian defence ministry official Artsrun Hovhannisyan said Azerbaijan had conducted artillery bombardments of Nagorno-Karabakh from the north, “with total disregard for the humanitarian truce”. He added that Azeri forces had been repelled and had suffered significant losses.

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry said Nagorno-Karabakh forces had been forced to retreat and Azeri forces retained the advantage along the line of contact that divides the sides.

Reuters could not independently verify the reports.

Baku also accused Yerevan of a missile attack on Ordubad in Nakhchivan autonomous province, a region which belongs to Azerbaijan but is surrounded by Armenia and Iran. Armenia denied such an attack.

The Nagorno-Karabakh defence ministry reported 29 more military casualties, bringing to 633 the number of servicemen killed since fighting broke out on Sept. 27. Azerbaijan does not disclose military casualties. The Azeri prosecutor-general’s office said 47 civilians had been killed and 222 wounded.

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Nagorno-Karabakh: Civilians hit amid Armenia Azerbaijan conflict

Armenia and Azerbaijan have accused each other of attacking residential areas as the conflict over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region rages on.

Azerbaijan said an Armenian missile had killed at least 13 civilians in Ganja, a city far from the front lines.

Armenia meanwhile accused Azerbaijan of shelling residences in Stepanakert.

It is the capital of the Nagorno-Karabakh region, internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but run by ethnic Armenians.

A six-year war over the territory ended in 1994 with a ceasefire but not a peace treaty.

Fighting flared last month and has killed hundreds of people. Both sides signed a Russian-brokered truce last weekend, but the conflict has continued.

What happened overnight?

Officials in Azerbaijan announced on Saturday that at least 13 people had been killed and more than 40 injured after a missile struck populated areas in Ganja, the second-largest city in the country.

About 100 rescuers are working to reach people believed to be trapped under the rubble, BBC Azeri reported.

A foreign ministry statement accused Armenia of "deliberate and indiscriminate targeting of civilians".

Armenian officials denied the attack, and accused Azerbaijan of attacking civilian areas.

Defence ministry spokeswoman Shushan Stepanyan posted a video on Facebook which she said showed devastation in the Nagorno-Karabakh region.

"At night, once again violating the humanitarian ceasefire, the Azerbaijani Armed Force struck with missiles at [civilians]... including the capital Stepanakert."

What's the latest on the ground?

In a televised address on Saturday, Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev denied attacking civilians while accusing Armenia of destroying or damaging "more than 2,000 houses" in Azerbaijan.

He also said that his country's forces had taken the city of Fuzuli and seven villages in Nagorno-Karabakh.

"Our revenge is on the battlefield," he said. "The Azerbaijani army is achieving its goal, no force can stop us."

On Thursday, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said his country had suffered "numerous casualties" on the battlefield, but added that despite "losses of manpower and equipment", Armenian forces were still in general control and had inflicted "numerous losses of manpower and equipment on the enemy".

"This is not a statement of despair or desperation. I provide this information because I am committed to tell our people the truth," he said.

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Pakistan on Saturday rejected as "baseless and unwarranted" a claim by Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan that Pakistani special forces were reportedly fighting alongside the Azerbaijani army in the two countries' conflict over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

In a statement, the Foreign Office (FO) asked the leadership of Armenia to halt its "irresponsible propaganda" and reiterated support for Azerbaijan's right to self-defence.

The Armenian leader, in an interview with Russian news agency Rossiya Segodnya on Thursday, had stated that Pakistani forces, alongside Turkish troops, were taking part in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.

He was asked whether his country had any proof for the claim that "foreign mercenaries and terrorists" were fighting on the Azerbaijani side.

"According to some reports, special forces of the Pakistani army are also involved in the hostilities," Pashinyan said in his response, according to a transcript of the interview provided by the Armenian prime minister's office.

Reacting to his statement, the FO said Pakistan "categorically reject these baseless and unwarranted comments" by Pashinyan that had referred to "some unsubstantiated reports".

The press release noted that Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev had also clarified his stance on the matter, stating that Azerbaijani forces were "strong enough to defend their homeland" and did not need the help of foreign forces.

"It is regrettable that [the] leadership of Armenia, to cover up its illegal actions against Azerbaijan, is resorting to irresponsible propaganda, which it must stop," the FO said.

It stated that Pakistan has consistently extended diplomatic, moral and political support to Azerbaijan and "will continue to stand by the brotherly nation of Azerbaijan and support its right of self-defence against any aggression".

"We believe that long-term peace and normalisation of relations between the two parties would depend on complete and comprehensive implementation of the UN Security Council resolutions and withdrawal of Armenian forces from Azerbaijani territories," the statement emphasised.

Earlier this month, the FO spokesperson had rejected "speculative and baseless" media reports claiming the Pakistan Army was fighting alongside Azerbaijani forces against Armenia.

His statement had come after a report published by TimesNowIndia and a few other media outlets claimed that Prime Minister Imran Khan had sent troops to the disputed territory to fight alongside the Turkish military and Azerbaijan army in Agdam.

Decades-long conflict
The decades-long Nagorno-Karabakh conflict re-erupted on September 27 and has so far killed more than 700 people, including nearly 80 civilians.

The mountainous western region of Azerbaijan has remained under separatist Armenian control since a 1994 ceasefire ended a brutal war that killed 30,000.

Armenia, which backs Nagorno-Karabakh but does not recognise its independence, has admitted that Azerbaijani forces have made important gains along the front in the past week.

On Saturday, a missile strike levelled a row of homes in Azerbaijan's second city of Ganja, killing 12 and injuring more than 40 people in their sleep in a sharp escalation of the conflict.

The early hours attack, which saw a second missile strike another part of Ganja and a third reach the nearby strategic city of Mingecevir, came hours after Azerbaijani forces shelled the ethnic Armenian separatist region's capital Stepanakert.

The seeming ***-for-tat attacks further undermine international efforts to calm a resurgence of fighting between Christian Armenians and Muslim Azerbaijanis before it draws in regional powers Russia and Turkey.
 
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Nagorno-Karabakh: Armenia accuses Azerbaijan of violating new truce

Armenia has accused Azerbaijan of violating a humanitarian ceasefire in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh within minutes of it coming into force.

A truce had been agreed to start at midnight local time (20:00 GMT Saturday).

But an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman said Azerbaijan broke the ceasefire after just four minutes by firing artillery shells and rockets.

Azerbaijan is yet to respond to the allegations.

The decision on the ceasefire was taken in line with agreements that led to a ceasefire being signed last weekend. However, clashes continued despite that accord.

Fighting flared last month over a region internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but which is run by ethnic Armenians. Hundreds have died.

This is the worst violence in the region since a six-year war over the territory ended with a ceasefire in 1994.

Earlier on Saturday, both nations continued to trade accusations over violations of the Russian-brokered truce agreed last weekend and doubts are likely to remain following the latest statements.

What is the latest agreement?
Both nations confirmed the humanitarian truce, although few other details were given.

Azerbaijan's foreign ministry said the decision was based on statements by the presidents of the US, France and Russia, representing the OSCE Minsk Group - a body set up in 1992 and chaired by the three countries to mediate the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Anna Naghdalyan, spokesperson for Armenia's foreign ministry carried the same statement in a tweet, adding it welcomed efforts towards a "ceasefire and de-escalation of tension" in the conflict zone.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who negotiated last weekend's accord, spoke to counterparts in both countries on Saturday and said they needed to "strictly follow" the earlier agreement.

What is the latest on the ground?
"The enemy fired artillery shells in the northern direction from 00:04 to 02:45, (20:04 to 22:45 GMT Saturday) and fired rockets in the southern direction from 02:20 to 02:45," Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman Shushan Stepanyan said on Twitter.

Azerbaijan accused Armenia of a missile strike in the early hours of Saturday that killed at least 13 civilians and injured 45 in Ganja, a city far from the front lines.

A foreign ministry statement accused Armenia of "deliberate and indiscriminate targeting of civilians".

Armenian officials denied the attack, and accused Azerbaijan of attacking civilian areas.

Ms Stepanyan posted a video on Facebook which she said showed devastation in the Nagorno-Karabakh region, accusing the Azerbaijani Armed Forces of striking at civilians with missiles in areas including the Nagorno-Karabakh capital, Stepanakert.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54586437.
 
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Tuesday said that Pakistan believes in restoring Azerbaijan's territorial integrity and sovereignty over the Nagorno-Karabakh region.

The minister expressed these views during a phone call with his Azerbaijani counterpart, Jeyhun Bayramov. In a statement, the Foreign Office (FO) said that the two discussed bilateral relations and the ongoing conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the breakaway region.

Nagorno-Karabakh, mainly inhabited by ethnic Armenians and backed by Yerevan, has been the scene of deadly clashes since September 27.

"The foreign minister expressed deep concern on the deteriorating security situation in Nagorno-Karabakh and expressed full solidarity with the brotherly nation of Azerbaijan and its people at this difficult time," the statement said.

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

Qureshi also expressed concern over the "reprehensible targeting and killing of civilians by Armenian forces and hoped for a peaceful resolution to the crisis in accordance with United Nations Security Council resolutions".

He also recognised Azerbaijan’s valuable support to Pakistan on the Kashmir issue at various international forums, including the OIC Contact Group on Jammu and Kashmir. He briefed his counterpart on the grave human rights violations and other repressive actions being perpetrated by Indian occupation forces in occupied Jammu &Kashmir, the statement said.

Meanwhile, Bayramov appreciated Pakistan’s support to Azerbaijan and briefed Qureshi on the latest situation.

During the phone call, the two ministers expressed satisfaction at the state of bilateral relations and agreed to further strengthen cooperation in areas of mutual interest, including trade and economic, cultural and educational fields.

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

Qureshi also reiterated his invitation to Bayramov to visit Pakistan, the FO statement said.

On Sunday, Prime Minister Imran Khan, on the occasion of Azerbaijan's Independence Day, had paid tribute to "Azeri forces valiantly defending their territorial integrity".

"Pakistan stands with Azerbaijan in its quest to resolve Nagorno-Karabakh issue as per UN Security Council resolutions," he had said.

Decades-long conflict

The decades-long Nagorno-Karabakh conflict re-erupted on September 27 and has so far killed more than 700 people, including nearly 80 civilians.

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

The mountainous western region of Azerbaijan has remained under separatist Armenian control since a 1994 ceasefire ended a brutal war that killed 30,000.

Armenia, which backs Nagorno-Karabakh but does not recognise its independence, has admitted that Azerbaijani forces have made important gains along the front in the past week.

A ceasefire in territory of Nagorno-Karabakh was under severe strain on Tuesday after new clashes between Azeri and ethnic Armenian forces.

Officials in Nagorno-Karabakh reported new artillery battles on Tuesday morning and said fighting was particularly intense in southern areas of the conflict zone.

Azerbaijan’s defence ministry also reported fighting in several areas, including disputed territory close to the line of contact that divides the sides.
 
Global powers push to end Nagorno-Karabakh fighting

YEREVAN/BAKU (Reuters) - Armenia’s president headed to Brussels for talks with the European Union and NATO military alliance on Wednesday in a renewed drive to end the heaviest fighting since the 1990s over the mountain enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.

As part of a wide diplomatic push from major global powers, the Azeri and Armenian foreign ministers also flew to Moscow for talks with Russia, which has brokered two ceasefires but failed to end clashes killing hundreds of people in the last month.

The warring sides’ foreign ministers then go to Washington for talks on Friday involving U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, which has raised hopes of a breakthrough.

Both sides reported new fighting on Wednesday in and around Nagorno-Karabakh, a breakaway territory within Azerbaijan that is populated and controlled by ethnic Armenians.

Azerbaijan denied one of its military planes was shot down.

The fighting has raised fears of a wider war in the South Caucasus drawing in Russia and Turkey, an ally of Azerbaijan, and increased concern about the security of pipelines in Azerbaijan that carry Azeri gas and oil to world markets.

Armenian President Armen Sarkissian was due to meet NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell and European Council President Charles Michel in Brussels, his office said.

“It is expected that the leadership of NATO and the European organisations will do everything possible to stop Azerbaijan’s and NATO-member Turkey’s military actions, which will help bring to life the ceasefire agreements,” it said.

Armenia, which has a defence pact with Russia, has accused Turkey of sending mercenaries to fight in the conflict.

Turkey has denied this, and says it has no direct role in the fighting. But its tough rhetoric has increased strains in relations with Russia and with Turkey’s NATO allies, who have ignored Azeri calls for Ankara to have a peacemaking role.

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FIGHTING RAGES

Azerbaijan says Armenian forces are the aggressors in the conflict, and its main condition for ending fighting is an Armenian withdrawal from Nagorno-Karabakh. Armenia rules this out and accuses Azerbaijan of making a land grab.

Azeri Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov flew to Moscow for “consultations with the Russian side”, and Armenian Foreign Minister Zohrab Mnatsakanyan was due to meet Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. It was unclear if the foes’ ministers would meet directly.

Mediation has for decades been led by Russia, France and the United States under the auspices of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) security and rights watchdog. Its so-called Minsk Group is also expected to be represented at Friday’s talks in Washington.

In the latest flareups, Azerbaijan said an Armenian regiment had been “forced out of action” and that fighting continued in several areas near the line of contact in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman Shushan Stepanyan said the town of Martakert in Nagorno-Karabakh was under heavy fire.

The sides’ reports are often contradictory and hard to verify. Each accuses the other of attacking civilian targets and aid groups fear a humanitarian crisis.

Azerbaijan says its forces, which are boosted by increased military spending in the past few years and are making heavy use of drones, have made territorial gains.

Nagorno-Karabakh says it has repeatedly repulsed attacks and that the situation is under control despite the worst bloodshed since violence broke out as the Soviet Union collapsed, resulting in a war that killed about 30,000 people.
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Nagorno-Karabakh peace hopes slim before Washington talks

BAKU/YEREVAN (Reuters) - Hopes of ending nearly a month of bloodshed in the mountain enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh looked slim on Thursday as Azeri and ethnic Armenian forces fought new battles on the eve of talks in Washington.

Plans for U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to meet the foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia on Friday raised hopes this week that the two former Soviet republics would agree to end their deadliest fighting since the mid-1990s.

But those hopes have been dented by the continued heavy fighting in and around Nagorno-Karabakh, a breakaway territory that is inside Azerbaijan but controlled by ethnic Armenians, and by angry rhetoric from both sides.

Hundreds of people have been killed since fighting flared on Sept. 27, raising fears of a wider war drawing in Turkey and Russia and increasing concern about the security of pipelines in Azerbaijan that carry Azeri gas and oil to world markets.

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said on Wednesday he could see no diplomatic resolution of the long-running conflict at this stage.

In a transcript of comments to the Nikkei newspaper published on Thursday, Azeri President Ilham Aliyev said the prospects of reaching a peace settlement were “very remote”.

Reiterating Azerbaijan’s main condition for ending the fighting, Aliyev demanded promises that his country will be handed back control of Nagorno-Karabakh, which broke away as the Soviet Union collapsed.

“So our main objective at these discussions will be to find out whether the Armenian leadership is ready to liberate our territories or not, and if ready, then when?” he said.

Armenians regard Nagorno-Karabakh as part of their historic homeland and accuse Azerbaijan of making a land grab in the recent fighting.

Aliyev said he would not rule out “cultural autonomy” for ethnic Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh but not say what he meant by this.

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Nagorno-Karabakh: Nearly 5,000 dead in conflict, Putin says

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that almost 5,000 people have been killed in fighting between Azerbaijan and Armenian forces over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

This is far higher than the death toll given by the two sides.

Mr Putin said that he speaks to the two sides several times a day, and would not be taking sides in the conflict.

He said that Moscow disagrees with Turkey - which supports Azerbaijan - over the conflict.

The Russian president also called on the United States to assist in seeking peace in the region.

Armenia and Azerbaijan have accused each other of violating humanitarian ceasefires in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Fighting flared last month over the territory, which is internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but run by ethnic Armenians.

This is the worst violence in the region since a six-year war over the territory ended with a ceasefire in 1994.

What did Putin say?
Russia is in a military alliance with Armenia and has an army base in the country. But it also has close ties with Azerbaijan.

"There are a lot of casualties from both sides, more than 2,000 from each side," the Russian president told a televised meeting, adding that the number was "nearing 5,000".

This is far higher than previous estimates, with the most recent official death toll at under 1,000.

Nagorno-Karabakh's governing authorities said 874 of its military personnel and 37 civilians have lost their lives since 27 September. Azerbaijan says 61 Azeri civilians have been killed, but has not announced its military casualties.

Mr Putin added that he was in "constant" communication with Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev and would not be taking sides.

"I talk to them on the phone several times a day," he said.

Mr Putin said he disagreed with Turkey over the conflict, adding that Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan "might seem tough, but is a flexible politician and reliable partner for Russia".

Turkey has vowed to send soldiers and provide military support for Azerbaijan if requested.

Mr Putin also called on the US to "work in unison" with Russia to end the fighting.

Talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan are expected to take place in Washington on Friday, when US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is due to meet the foreign ministers of the two countries.

The US, Russia and France are co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk mediation group, which has called for a ceasefire.

What's the latest in Nagorno-Karabakh?
Despite a Russian-brokered truce agreed at the weekend, the fighting has continued and hundreds have died.

Azerbaijan reported fighting in several areas on Thursday, and accused Armenia of firing three ballistic missiles into Azerbaijan. Armenia denied this.

Armenia also reported fighting in multiple locations, while officials said the town of Martuni and nearby villages had been shelled.

Armenia's prime minister has said there is no diplomatic solution "at this stage".

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54652704.
 
Pompeo to meet Armenian, Azeri ministers over Nagorno-Karabakh fighting

BAKU/YEREVAN (Reuters) - Azerbaijan and ethnic Armenian forces clashed in several areas of Nagorno-Karabakh on Friday, hours before talks were due to start in Washington to try to end the deadliest fighting in the mountain enclave for over a quarter of a century.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was scheduled to meet the foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia in a new attempt to end nearly a month of bloodshed in which Russian President Vladimir Putin said 5,000 people may have been killed.

The collapse of two Russia-brokered ceasefires has also dimmed hopes of a quick end to fighting that broke out on Sept. 27 over Nagorno-Karabakh, a breakaway territory which is within Azerbaijan but is controlled by ethnic Armenians.

World powers want to prevent the fighting sparking a wider war that draws in Turkey and Russia, and are concerned about the security of pipelines in Azerbaijan that carry Azeri gas and oil through the South Caucasus to world markets.

In the latest clashes, Azerbaijan’s defence ministry reported fighting in several areas, including territories close to the line of contact that divides the sides.

Armenia’s defence ministry also reported fighting in several areas and said the town of Martuni in Nagorno-Karabakh was shelled again during the night.

Pompeo is expected to hold separate talks with Azeri Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov and Armenian Foreign Minister Zohrab Mnatsakanyan. It is not clear whether the two former Soviet republics’ ministers will meet directly.

“I very much hope that our American partners will act in unison with us and will help the settlement,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday, adding that he speaks to leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan several times a day by phone.

Putin said Moscow believed more than 2,000 people had been killed on each side during the recent flare-up. The decades-old conflict led to a 1991-94 war in which about 30,000 people were killed and Azerbaijan’s troops were pushed out.

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Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: 'Execution' video prompts war crime probe

Videos of a potential war crime have emerged as fighting rages around the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh between Azerbaijan and ethnic Armenians.

One video posted on a messaging app shows what appears to be two Armenians in military uniforms being captured by troops from Azerbaijan.

A second video seemingly shows the same Armenians being shot with their hands behind their backs.

Armenian authorities have identified the men as Benik Hakobyan, 73, and 25-year-old Yuri Adamyan. Azerbaijan has dismissed the videos as fake.

Europe's top human rights watchdog, the Council of Europe, has said it has received the video and will investigate all alleged human rights abuses.

Fighting erupted on 27 September around the Caucasus enclave, which is recognised internationally as part of Azerbaijan but under Armenian control. Clashes quickly escalated into a large-scale conflict, with indiscriminate shelling of towns and cities and alleged use of banned cluster munitions.

A ceasefire was announced on 10 October and then again on October 18, but attacks have continued. Several thousand people are said to have died and shelling has killed civilians in both Armenia and Azerbaijan. Tens of thousands have fled their homes.

What is fact, what is fake?
Combatants on both sides have released images and videos showing prisoners of war (POWs) and the bodies of opposition soldiers.

The BBC has studied several videos circulated by the two warring sides on social media, allegedly showing prisoners of war being harmed or killed. Only these two videos were verifiably what they purported to be.

One clip widely circulating on Telegram channels, that claims to show an Azerbaijani POW being shot dead by Armenian soldiers, is actually a video from Russia that first appeared on social media sites in 2013. Others lack enough detail to be verified.

The pair of videos that the BBC has verified were posted on an anonymous Russian-language pro-Azerbaijan channel on Telegram messenger last week.

What happens in the videos?
The first video appears to show Armenians Benik Hakobyan and Yuri Adamyan being taken prisoner.

In the video, someone speaking Russian with a heavy Azerbaijani accent orders the men to walk forwards, surrender any weapons and raise their hands. He speaks to the other soldiers in Azerbaijani, telling them not to hit the captives.

The younger prisoner, Yuri Adamyan, removes a helmet and his jacket before putting his hands in the air and walking out of shot.

Although the older man, Benik Hakobyan, is wearing a military-style camouflage jacket, it's unclear whether he is a soldier. He is pushed to the ground and appears to moan in pain.

The first video was followed by a second that shows the apparent execution of the two men.

The prisoners appear to have their hands bound behind them and are draped in the flags of Armenia and the unrecognised republic of Nagorno-Karabakh.

They are sitting on a small wall and can be seen moving slightly. Then someone orders in Azerbaijani: "Aim at their heads." Multiple shots are heard and the prisoners slump to the ground.

Videos rejected as fake
The BBC has confirmed that the man giving commands in both videos is a native Azerbaijani speaker with a regional accent. The prisoners from the first video also appear to be the men being executed in the second as they are wearing the same clothes.

Azerbaijan's defence ministry quickly denied these were their troops and called the videos a provocation. The clips were deleted shortly afterwards.

The following day, Azerbaijan's prosecutor general announced that an investigation had concluded the videos were fake.

But are they genuine?
The BBC has studied the clips and confirmed that they were filmed in Hadrut, a town that has seen intense fighting. It is in southern Nagorno-Karabakh, near Fuzuli.

It's likely the videos were recorded at some point between 9-15 October. Azerbaijan announced that Hadrut had been taken on 9 October, although it later emerged that, while they had taken some strategic heights around the town, fierce fighting was still going on for control of the town itself on 12 October.

The first videos actually showing the Azerbaijan army in the town centre appeared on 15 October. The POW videos both appeared for the first time on 15 October.

Bellingcat open-source investigators were the first to publish their analysis into the authenticity of the videos.

The location of the first video is the side of the road in the northern part of Hadrut (39°31'25.9"N 47°01'40.8"E).

In the picture above, there are four buildings that appear in the video that can be matched to structures in a satellite view of the region.

The execution clip seems to be filmed at a park approximately a kilometre away in the south of the town.

By cross-referencing a still from the video before the men were shot with a satellite view of the town and footage from a local TV report, it is possible to identify the exact location as the park next to Mkrtchyan Street (39°30'53.4"N 47°02'01.8"E).

Bellingcat identified the same locations and time periods for both videos and confirmed that helmets and rifles seen on the soldiers matched those used at least in some instances by Azerbaijani servicemen.

They wrote that their analysis "would appear to indicate that these two men were indeed Armenian combatants who were captured between October 9 and October 15 by Azerbaijani soldiers, possibly special forces, and likely executed a short time later".

Online commentators from Azerbaijan have questioned the authenticity of the clip, by pointing out the apparent lack of blood as a result of the shooting, but military experts interviewed by the BBC say the video looks genuine.

"Hollywood gives a poor reflection of what gunshot wounds look like," said Rob Lee, a military expert from the Department of War Studies at King's College London.

The BBC spoke to a former British military intelligence officer who agreed to talk on condition of anonymity due to security reasons. They said: "These are real bullets, this is a real killing. This is genuine, and I don't see any reason to assume it's staged."

Brain matter could be seen coming out of a gunshot wound, the officer said.

What does Armenia say?
Armenia's human rights defender, Arman Tatoyan, has officially labelled Azerbaijan's execution of two prisoners of war an "undeniable war crime".

"In these videos, members of the Azerbaijani army humiliate prisoners of war and then brutally kill them with extreme cynicism," he wrote on Facebook.

He said Armenia's representatives at the European Courts of Human Rights had already asked for copies of the videos. Mr Tatoyan said he would share the clips with the UN human rights commissioner, the Council of Europe and other international bodies.

A spokesperson for the Council of Europe's commissioner for human rights, Dunja Mijatovic, confirmed that the materials had been received and the commissioner was "closely following the situation and she will look into all allegations of grave human rights violations and take actions when she deems appropriate".

A spokesperson from the International Committee of the Red Cross told the BBC that although the organisation followed up on all such allegations, it did not speak publicly about specific incidents.

Nagorno-Karabakh human rights ombudsman Artak Beglaryan told the BBC that the men in the videos were two locals. He said Benik Hakobyan was not a soldier but a civilian from Hadrut and Yuri Adamyan was likely a serviceman from a neighbouring village.

Since the appearance of the video from Hadrut, both sides have released statements identifying several prisoners of war. Azerbaijan showed two Armenian captives receiving medical attention and the Armenians produced images of an Azerbaijani prisoner undergoing treatment at a hospital in Karabakh.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54645254.
 
Nagorno-Karabakh: Fighting continues, Baku issues Russia warning

Fighting has continued on Sunday between Azerbaijan and ethnic Armenian forces over the mountainous enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh with both sides blaming each other for blocking a peaceful settlement to the conflict.

Armenia accused Azerbaijani forces of shelling civilian settlements on Sunday, a claim that Baku denied.

Azerbaijan said it was ready to implement a ceasefire provided Armenia withdrew its forces.

The clashes yesterday and today in and around Nagorno-Karabakh, a part of Azerbaijan populated and controlled by ethnic Armenians, came after US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo hosted foreign ministers of both countries in a new peace push on Friday.

The collapse of two Russia-brokered truces had already dimmed the prospect of a quick end to fighting that broke out on September 27 over Nagorno-Karabakh.

Blame game
Officials in Nagorno-Karabakh said Azerbaijani forces fired artillery on settlements in Askeran and Martuni in the night, while

Azerbaijan said its positions had been attacked with small arms, mortars, tanks, and howitzers.

“I am absolutely confident in the effectiveness of the peace negotiations but this also depends on the will of the Armenian side to take part in them,” said Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev.

“Why can Azerbaijani and Armenian people live together in Georgia, Russia, Ukraine, and other countries but not in Nagorno Karabakh?” he added in a Fox News interview reprinted by the Azertag News Agency.

Armenian President Armen Sarkissian accused Baku of being “aggressively stubborn and destructive”.

On Sunday, the defence ministry of the Nagorno-Karabakh region said it had recorded another 11 casualties among its forces, pushing the military death toll to 974 since fighting with Azeri forces erupted.

World powers want to prevent a wider war that draws in Turkey, which has voiced strong support for Azerbaijan, and Russia, which has a defence pact with Armenia.

Differences over the conflict have further strained relations between Ankara and its NATO allies, with Pompeo accusing Turkey of fuelling the conflict by arming the Azerbaijani side. Ankara denies it has inflamed the conflict.

Armenian call for Russian involvement
Sarkissian, in comments reprinted by the Armenpress news agency, called on “global players” to step in immediately to help negotiate a ceasefire.

“In the context of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Russia is a trusted and pro-active mediator between the conflicting sides. Russia plays a crucial role here,” he said.

Azerbaijan’s Aliyev said it was “very hazardous” for Armenia to want Russian military support in the conflict and that third parties should not get involved militarily.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he hoped that the US would help Moscow broker a solution to the conflict.

Azerbaijan says 65 Azerbaijani civilians have been killed and 298 wounded but has not disclosed its military casualties.

About 30,000 people were killed in a 1991-1994 war over Nagorno-Karabakh.

Armenians regard the enclave as part of their historic homeland; Azeris consider it illegally occupied land that must be returned to their control.

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