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Azhar Ali and Mohammad Hafeez refuse to join training camp due to Mohammad Amir #83

He is coming back.

Lets see his haters when he takes wickets. I for one hope we won't hear Ramiz's constant irritating tired out cliches and he boycotts the commentary. Same with the moral brigade here.
 
He is coming back.

Lets see his haters when he takes wickets. I for one hope we won't hear Ramiz's constant irritating tired out cliches and he boycotts the commentary. Same with the moral brigade here.

And lets see the reaction of fans if their hero 'accidentally' drops a easy catch, misses a simple runout or bowls a no ball
 
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And lets see the reaction of fanboys if their hero 'accidentally' drops a easy catch, misses a simple runout or bowls a no ball

He's not my hero, infact noone in the team is.

My view was simple, he has done his time and deserves to be back. Anyone who's against that can show their high morals by not cheering his wickets when he inevitably takes them. If he drops a catch or gets run out then nothing to it, unless you're suggesting he's still planning to fix? In which case I urge you to contact ICC's anti corruption panel in haste.

Lastly, this is not an Indian matter, as your people remind us on every turn when its the other way around. Keep out of it.
 
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Yeah raise your voice and trash your cricket board in the media so they listen to you. Normally Indians would be making an absolute mockery of Hafeez and Azhar, just to show how professional their board is and how their players would never dare to do such shenanigans. Just because its Muhammad Amir's case here, they automatically get the urge to defend whatever Hafeez/Azhar etc are upto here.

Hypocrisy.

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Jesus Christ, why are you sounding so angry and frustrated?

And when has the bolded part happened?

We are supporting Hafeez and Azhar because they are standing up against a fixing cheat.
 
Jesus Christ, why are you sounding so angry and frustrated?

And when has the bolded part happened?

We are supporting Hafeez and Azhar because they are standing up against a fixing cheat.

Noone would begrudge them their 'right', atleast not me. However there is a way to do it, talk to the PCB privately instead of making a public tamasha. When our own captain is doing that its a terrible example.
 
And lets see the reaction of fans if their hero 'accidentally' drops a easy catch, misses a simple runout or bowls a no ball

Those things won't stand out because the Pakistani Team is renowned for doing all of them on a daily basis.

Most recent example being this idiot:

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Update:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My principle stance wil remain always that *whoever wil damage the pride & integrity of Pakistan should not get it back ever at any cost</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/680626376282640384">December 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My principle stance wil remain always that *whoever wil damage the pride & integrity of Pakistan should not get it back ever at any cost</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/680626376282640384">December 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Amir is here to stay , Hafeez is trying to do face saving thats all.good on him if he feels that by tweeting this and taking U-Turn of joining camp makes him feel calm than let it be.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My principle stance wil remain always that *whoever wil damage the pride & integrity of Pakistan should not get it back ever at any cost</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/680626376282640384">December 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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The question is who is he to decide that? If he has notions about a moral high ground a player has to achieve, then something is not right.
 
More so ever a dangerous precedent will be set in the future.

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The PCB would appear weak if they allow it to happen which for obvious reasons they cant afford as it shall be equated to Pakistan Cricket Springs. :))
 
If we can welcome Zardari and Nawaz and live under them.

What's the ruckus about?

Cry honey, and go stand in a corner.

Amir will play because we are used to this.
 
In my view, we can lose Hafeez for Amir but not Azhar which of course means that losing both for Amir is out of question.

Well I think Amir is a good talent but not the second coming of Wasim as some portray him to be. I also don't subscribe to theory that he would have been the number one bowler today if he wouldn't have been banned. So far he hasn't shown anything that he is a bigger talent than someone like Starc or Boult (will probably never be close to the former in ODIs) but even if he's at their level, he's still miles better than what we've got included Wahab 'bang it short' Riaz, so his ability is not an issue. He already looks a better bowler than any of our current pacers.

As far as losing Hafeez is concerned, he has been a comprehensive player in the last 5 years but he's nearly 35 now and doesn't bowl anymore. He has been brilliant as Test opener this year but he is not consistent enough in ODIs and T20s.

Azhar on the other hand is our second/third best Test batsman and is on course to playing 100 Tests for Pakistan. So if it is between Hafeez and Amir, I can sacrifice Hafeez for someone who can lead our bowling attack for 10 years, but not Azhar.

That's not what you said, you said I was happy to lose BOTH for Amir.

I said Hafeez can be sacrificed because he has no long term future at 35 but Azhar is only 30 and next Test captain. Completely different things.

I specifically said Hafeez check the post again
 
Mohammad Amir made a reference to this in his video statement today.
 
So seems Hafeez held a grudge to the end:

In his presser today:

'To me, the biggest disappointment and hurt of my career were when I and Azhar Ali took a principled stand on this issue, but we were told by the board chairman that if we don't want to play, fine, but the concerned player will play"

“I was and I am still against fixers. I never wanted fixers to be given a second chance. I was told by the then PCB chairman to mind my own business and that those fixers would be given a second chance no matter what. I was devastated to hear that"
 
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