Azhar Ali and Mohammad Hafeez refuse to join training camp due to Mohammad Amir #83

[ads101]

Statements are official now. This, from Express Tribune.

Then it looks likely this stuff is true (I guess it could still be false reporting lol). Very surprised, don't think Azhar has the luxury of making such a stand. Hafeez can get away with it a bit and they'll tolerate it. Azhar's ODI captaincy and participation in LOI in general will probably be under threat now. Especially when the likes of Malik are waiting in the wings as a suitable LOI captaincy replacement.

 

[Mamoon]

Still why should we drop Hafeez for Amir it's setting a bad precedent where you support cheats over honest players even if he is better than all other bowlers in our side currently it does not mean that the bowlers who have taken more wickets than him in domestic are not better than him we could try them instead.

I am just giving an example. I have already said that dropping players to accommodate Amir isn't the solution, because it is bad for the dressing room and we don't have replacements.

I think some people in this thread are showing their double standards: apparently, ignoring Amir for a few players sets a wrong precedence and shows that the PCB is weak, but on the flip side, it is fine to drop a few players and bow down to Amir?

 

[MenInG]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1015786/azhar-hafeez-refuse-to-train-alongside-amir/

akistan left-arm pacer Muhammad Amir’s return to international cricket was once again hindered by ODI captain Azhar Ali and right-hand batsman Muhammad Hafeez’s denial to train alongside the disgraced player.

According to the Express News, Azhar and Hafeez informed head coach Waqar Younis regarding their reservations during a meeting today.

PCB issues show cause notice to Hafeez over remarks against Amir

“I will not move away from my stance and go back to the camp until Amir is there” said Hafeez.

Azhar seconded Hafeez’s standing and said that if the Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shahryar Khan calls him only then he will go back to the camp.

“I am not willing to play alongside a player who caused disgrace to my country,” said Azhar.

Shoaib Malik ready to play alongside Muhammad Amir

Meanwhile, a meeting is taking place between Waqar, bowling coach Mushtaq Ahmed, chief selector Haroon Rasheed and T20 captain Shahid Afridi.

The players are currently undergoing fitness training in Lahore till January 7, 2016.

Amir has been in the limelight ever since he returned to the domestic fold after his five-year ban; recently making waves at the Bangladesh Premier League where he dismissed established batsmen and compatriots Shahid Afridi, Misbahul Haq and Mohammad Hafeez.

PCB seeks legal advice over Amir visa issue

The left-armer’s inclusion was already reported to not go down too well with Hafeez, who had voiced concerns over sharing a dressing room with Amir, claiming that the 23-year-old let his country down during the spot-fixing scandal.

The ODI captain Azhar has now jumped the train and is taking sides with Hafeez on the issue.

 

[HuzaifaE]

Integrity yes but not at the cost of dropping the quality of your team.

Pietersen has always been a headache. England tolerated him for a long time, that text-gate happened in 2012 and he played for England till 2013/2014, but he they axed when he started to decline and showed no improvement in behavior. You can drop a declining Pietersen when you have Cook and Root in your team, and the results have shown that England haven't missed Pietersen in any way.


Who will we replace Azhar and Hafeez at this point? We don't have Roots, Williamsons, Smiths and Kohlis in domestic cricket.

You will always have headaches, divisions and instability if you chase quality without integrity over stamping your authority and gaining respect in the long term with short term losses. No we don't have a Williamson in the wing, but we have players willing to abide by the PCB's decision to allow Amir back unlike the experienced heads revolting and expecting the PCB to bend for them, including our captain. I believe in respect for maturity, not experience - its a coincidence both go hand in hand a lot of the time, this isn't one of those cases though. I understand the concerns you have in regards to team quality headaches and I want you to understand mine with a cricket board showing its weakness and ineptness.

 

[aukhan]

Respect to both Hafeez and Azhar. They are standing for what they believe in.

 

[zabalestmsm]

Integrity yes but not at the cost of dropping the quality of your team.

Pietersen has always been a headache. England tolerated him for a long time, that text-gate happened in 2012 and he played for England till 2013/2014, but he they axed when he started to decline and showed no improvement in behavior. You can drop a declining Pietersen when you have Cook and Root in your team, and the results have shown that England haven't missed Pietersen in any way.


Who will we replace Azhar and Hafeez at this point? We don't have Roots, Williamsons, Smiths and Kohlis in domestic cricket.

Integrity at any cost... There must be no compromise here.. Even if some so called quality players have to be sacrificed then let it be... How can u think twice about integrity?

Azhar and Hafeez arent Root and Kohli anyways that we have to worry about their loss especially when we have to choose between moderation and extremism...

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Statements are official now. This, from Express Tribune.

So Mr Azhar, does this mean you won't play with Saeed Ajmal, Shahid Afridi and Hafeez as well?

Double standards as usual. He wants the PCB chairman to call him back so its a good trick to show everyone in the company that you're important.

 

[ads101]

Yes which is why I disagree this notion that Azhar is pulling off a stunt to miss tough away tours. Why will he risk that? He has always come across as a very respectable and dignified individual and if he doesn't want to play with a fixer, we should respect that.

Don't think Afridi and Misbah will create problems; Afridi has 3 months of international cricket left and Misbah will retire this year too, besides didn't he have a chat with Amir in the BPL or something?

Yeah I disagree azhar would do such a thing to miss a tough tour, that's unfair.

I don't think Misbah and Afridi are opposed to Amir return, they know he'll strengthen their sides. But if they did (they probably don't), and acted like Azhar and Hafeez have, think Amir's return would be much harder. Heck I think if Afridi said flat out he didn't want Amir back to international cricket, Amir would be out at least until afridi retired.

 

[Mamoon]

You will always have headaches, divisions and instability if you chase quality without integrity over stamping your authority and gaining respect in the long term with short term losses. No we don't have a Williamson in the wing, but we have players willing to abide by the PCB's decision to allow Amir back unlike the experienced heads revolting and expecting the PCB to bend for them, including our captain. I believe in respect for maturity, not experience - its a coincidence both go hand in hand a lot of the time, this isn't one of those cases though. I understand the concerns you have in regards to team quality headaches and I want you to understand mine with a cricket board showing its weakness and ineptness.

I respect your views on this matter, but for me PCB has only two options: convince these players to forgive Amir; don't select Amir, unfortunately.

 

[winchester]

'Azhar Ali acha larka hai Azhar Ali ko smjhaya jaye k Amir jese khiladi poori duniya main bohot kam hote hain. Azhar or Amir dono Pakistan k liye bohot zuroori hain. Hafeez na khelta tou na khelay koi bara masla nhi' -
Mohammad Yousuf

 

[Adijazz1706]

The NZ tour is a LOI only tour and neither Hafeez nor Azhar will do well here, Hafeez more so. Amir should do pretty well though. Have Malik as ODI captain instead of Azhar. He isn't the best captain anyway.

 

[Pakpak]

Azhar has been an atrocious captain, Hafeez is a cheating tax evading, robbing his country of millions chucker.

Good riddance.

 

[Mamoon]

So Mr Azhar, does this mean you won't play with Saeed Ajmal, Shahid Afridi and Hafeez as well?

Double standards as usual. He wants the PCB chairman to call him back so its a good trick to show everyone in the company that you're important.

I think those three cannot be equated to Amir.

Ajmal and Hafeez are cheats, but there cheating didn't negatively impact the team. They won matches for their team with their chucking. Similarly, Afridi with his ball-tampering etc. didn't hurt his team; instead, he wanted to help. None of them accepted payments behind the back of the team.

In that sense, Amir didn't hurt his team either - he didn't underperform and only bowled a no-ball, but he did take a risk by deliberately conceded an extra run. We could have lost that match by 1 run.

In addition, Hafeez might be a tax-evader, but that's a personal issue - has nothing to do with cricket.

 

[zabalestmsm]

PCB has two options now;

1. Axe these two players and prefer moderation/merit over some players..
2. Succumb to some players' unfair demands and axe Amir...

 

[ahsan88]

Miandad comes out in support of Hafeez & Azhar Ali.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

The NZ tour is a LOI only tour and neither Hafeez nor Azhar will do well here, Hafeez more so. Amir should do pretty well though. Have Malik as ODI captain instead of Azhar. He isn't the best captain anyway.

It could be a blessing in disguise. But I am afraid that the PCB will give into this curse of Player power.

 

[ads101]

So Mr Azhar, does this mean you won't play with Saeed Ajmal, Shahid Afridi and Hafeez as well?

Double standards as usual. He wants the PCB chairman to call him back so its a good trick to show everyone in the company that you're important.

Honestly don't think azhar cares about that sort of thing.

Think perhaps he feels as ODI captain he needs to voice his opinions somewhat. Perhaps on the behalf too of domestic players/other younger players in the team who are not in the position to do so.

Azhar is also one of the few players left in the team who experienced playing alongside the fixers (he was there on the England tour). Bet the fixing going around while he was in the team didn't sit well with him.

 

[zabalestmsm]

Miandad must be axed as well lol...

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Yes, you are right. He deserves another chance, but not as a hero.

Let him earn the respect of his teammates and the country; don't serve it to him on a silver platter, but fanboys will be fanboys.

The thing is...These guys aren't giving him the chance to earn the respect of teamates and the country.
It's an accurate reflection of Pakistan society. Progress can never be achieved without forgiveness. Everyone is so full of resentment and hatred towards people in this society. I understand he shouldn't be given everything on a silver platter but he didn't exactly to Absolutely Nothing to redeem himself in the past 5 years

 

[Mamoon]

Integrity at any cost... There must be no compromise here.. Even if some so called quality players have to be sacrificed then let it be... How can u think twice about integrity?

Azhar and Hafeez arent Root and Kohli anyways that we have to worry about their loss especially when we have to choose between moderation and extremism...

They aren't but we don't have adequate replacements. What's the point of strengthening your bowling at the expense of weakening your batting?

 

[dauntless]

'Azhar Ali acha larka hai Azhar Ali ko smjhaya jaye k Amir jese khiladi poori duniya main bohot kam hote hain. Azhar or Amir dono Pakistan k liye bohot zuroori hain. Hafeez na khelta tou na khelay koi bara masla nhi' -
Mohammad Yousuf

Moyo is a legend what he said is absolutely right hafeez is not important player anyway.Azhar has to realized what amir done was past.he should forgive amir.

 

[HuzaifaE]

I think those three cannot be equated to Amir.

Ajmal and Hafeez are cheats, but there cheating didn't negatively impact the team. They won matches for their team with their chucking. Similarly, Afridi with his ball-tampering etc. didn't hurt his team; instead, he wanted to help. None of them accepted payments behind the back of the team.

In that sense, Amir didn't hurt his team either - he didn't underperform and only bowled a no-ball, but he did take a risk by deliberately conceded an extra run. We could have lost that match by 1 run.

I agree with your take on Ajmal and Hafeez (but in the sense that they acted unknowingly) but Afridi falls into the same category as Amir in an important aspect - Shaming the face of the country by willfully acting against the law (Afridi most certainly did that) which is the main thing the anti-Amir crowd is chanting.

 

[Mamoon]

The thing is...These guys aren't giving him the chance to earn the respect of teamates and the country.
It's an accurate reflection of Pakistan society. Progress can never be achieved without forgiveness. Everyone is so full of resentment and hatred towards people in this society. I understand he shouldn't be given everything on a silver platter but he didn't exactly to Absolutely Nothing to redeem himself in the past 5 years

Yes this is also true. It has been established already that their stance is rigid and aggressive, but is the aftermath that is debatable - how to tackle this situation. As far as I am concerned, dropping them or any player who does not agree with Amir's return is not the solution.

 

[winchester]

If Pakistan go to New Zealand without Amir and lose which is likely than people are going to believe it would be because of Amir's absence

Azhar needs to keep that in mind

Never is a strong word when you and the person you are up against have a ten year career infront of them.

Particularly if that player happens to be the best fast bowler in your country atm

 

[Yatoo]

I have decided right now. If Pakistan doesn't select Amir, I'll start supporting India.

 

[Mamoon]

I agree with your take on Ajmal and Hafeez (but in the sense that they acted unknowingly) but Afridi falls into the same category as Amir in an important aspect - Shaming the face of the country by willfully acting against the law (Afridi most certainly did that) which is the main thing the anti-Amir crowd is chanting.

There is a key difference - Afridi cheated to help his team win, unlike Amir.

 

[Barragan]

The NZ tour is a LOI only tour and neither Hafeez nor Azhar will do well here, Hafeez more so. Amir should do pretty well though. Have Malik as ODI captain instead of Azhar. He isn't the best captain anyway.

This won't happen.

Amir will be included, but will only be picked in the T20 team and hafeez might be dropped from the T20 team.

Don't think Amir will play in the ODI's, just T20I's.

 

[ads101]

So Mr Azhar, does this mean you won't play with Saeed Ajmal, Shahid Afridi and Hafeez as well?

Double standards as usual. He wants the PCB chairman to call him back so its a good trick to show everyone in the company that you're important.

Chucking is also not the same as fixing. Both Hafeez and Ajmal were cleared to bowl, that's why they were allowed to bowl. Testing regulations changed and they weren't found clear to bowl anymore hence banned. Was completely fair that they were bowling when testing procedures say they were legal. That's not their fault. Hafeez especially was marginal.

Afridi's got up to some bad stuff but he didn't take money to fix matches. That's a worse crime. He was still actively trying to win. Match fixing, Spot fixing even you are jeopardising your team's chances to win. And as Mazhar Majeed put it, the no balls could serve as a proof that greater fixes could be done in other matches. Ball tampering happens with teams and they are punished.

 

[zabalestmsm]

They aren't but we don't have adequate replacements. What's the point of strengthening your bowling at the expense of weakening your batting?

We shouldnt even think about strengthening or weakening our team etc in the first place when it comes to integrity, merit and moderation...

 

[dauntless]

Azhar has been an atrocious captain, Hafeez is a cheating tax evading, robbing his country of millions chucker.

Good riddance.

Hafeez can be good riddance but Azhar is an important player for overseas. Let see next episode of this drama

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Total Chaos this! It'll be good to see how the PCB will handle this.I think they will try and convince the players who are boycotting Amir.Though I respect Azhar for his stand,he is going to lose this one.

 

[dauntless]

I have decided right now. If Pakistan doesn't select Amir, I'll start supporting India.

Same here man

 

[Firebreaker]

Yeah Hafeez is as bad as Messi.

 

[aukhan]

I have decided right now. If Pakistan doesn't select Amir, I'll start supporting India.

Well just to let you know no body cares if you support Pakistan or not.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

I think those three cannot be equated to Amir.

Ajmal and Hafeez are cheats, but there cheating didn't negatively impact the team. They won matches for their team with their chucking. Similarly, Afridi with his ball-tampering etc. didn't hurt his team; instead, he wanted to help. None of them accepted payments behind the back of the team.

In that sense, Amir didn't hurt his team either - he didn't underperform and only bowled a no-ball, but he did take a risk by deliberately conceded an extra run. We could have lost that match by 1 run.

In addition, Hafeez might be a tax-evader, but that's a personal issue - has nothing to do with cricket.

The thing is that Mr Azhar Ali said that Aamir disgraced the country. But then so did Ajmal, Afridi and Hafeez with the last two getting banned by the ICC as well.
I did feel ashamed when Afridi bit the ball or did something with the pitch and I also felt bad when Ajmal was proven to be a chucker which meant for other teams that Ajmal won most matches for Pak, especially in Tests, by cheating.

Aamir is not the first one but yet these double standards by Pakistanis. If they are this committed then also do not play with the other seniors who disgraced Pakistan several times.

 

[Salman]

Aamir has spent more time and effort in anti match fixing campaigns and education at grass roots level since serving his time then any of these guys put together.

When was the last time you heard Azhar, Hafeez or even Misbah regularly visiting young cricketers to talk about the dangers of getting caught up in fixing?

 

[Yatoo]

Well just to let you know no body cares if you support Pakistan or not.

Nobody told u to care.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Chucking is also not the same as fixing. Both Hafeez and Ajmal were cleared to bowl, that's why they were allowed to bowl. Testing regulations changed and they weren't found clear to bowl anymore hence banned. Was completely fair that they were bowling when testing procedures say they were legal. That's not their fault. Hafeez especially was marginal.

Afridi's got up to some bad stuff but he didn't take money to fix matches. That's a worse crime. He was still actively trying to win. Match fixing, Spot fixing even you are jeopardising your team's chances to win. And as Mazhar Majeed put it, the no balls could serve as a proof that greater fixes could be done in other matches. Ball tampering happens with teams and they are punished.

The point is that they all disgraced the country. This is what Azhar basically said to the media.

 

[Mamoon]

The thing is that Mr Azhar Ali said that Aamir disgraced the country. But then so did Ajmal, Afridi and Hafeez with the last two getting banned by the ICC as well.
I did feel ashamed when Afridi bit the ball or did something with the pitch and I also felt bad when Ajmal was proven to be a chucker which meant for other teams that Ajmal won most matches for Pak, especially in Tests, by cheating.

Aamir is not the first one but yet these double standards by Pakistanis. If they are this committed then also do not play with the other seniors who disgraced Pakistan several times.

I think you are focussing too much on his choice of words - yes, 'disgraced the country' is a broad term, but what he essentially means is that he does not want to play with someone who indulged in fixing and accepted payments behind the team's back.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Aamir has spent more time and effort in anti match fixing campaigns and education at grass roots level since serving his time then any of these guys put together.

When was the last time you heard Azhar, Hafeez or even Misbah regularly visiting young cricketers to talk about the dangers of getting caught up in fixing?

This.

How many times do they want to punish Aamir? Does he have to commit suicide now to be eligible for forgiveness from these pure and honest cricketers?

 

[ads101]

The thing is...These guys aren't giving him the chance to earn the respect of teamates and the country.
It's an accurate reflection of Pakistan society. Progress can never be achieved without forgiveness. Everyone is so full of resentment and hatred towards people in this society. I understand he shouldn't be given everything on a silver platter but he didn't exactly to Absolutely Nothing to redeem himself in the past 5 years

Depends how you look at it.

You could see that people are ready to forgive the corrupt extremely easy in Pakistan. I mean look at Pakistan's President and politics in general. Forgiving a fixer now could result in fixing in the future. A five year ban could be well worth the risk of significant money earned in betting especially if there's no guarantee you'd be a automatic fixture in the team. We already took a lenient stance before, maybe if we'd been a bit tougher we wouldn't have had the trio indulge in fixing in the first place.

We are kidding ourselves if we think every other country would be more lenient. I think a lot if not most would have adopted a no tolerance stance to fixing and banned all three for life (at least from international cricket).

 

[winchester]

Moyo is a legend what he said is absolutely right hafeez is not important player anyway.Azhar has to realized what amir done was past.he should forgive amir.

Hafeez knows this

And with these T-20 leagues he maybe doesn't even care anymore

The only loser here is Azhar

 

[Mamoon]

Aamir has spent more time and effort in anti match fixing campaigns and education at grass roots level since serving his time then any of these guys put together.

When was the last time you heard Azhar, Hafeez or even Misbah regularly visiting young cricketers to talk about the dangers of getting caught up in fixing?

Well, maybe because they don't need to considering they haven't indulged in fixing? Besides, you are forgetting that the PCB MADE Amir do these anti-match fixing campaigns as part of his rehab program. He didn't do it out of his own accord.

 

[Rana]

As someone mentioned. Only the fans can voice their concerns when Pakistan get thrashed in NZ. When they smash 450 in 50 overs, and Pakistan fold at 250 every time, then you will realize how far behind we are.

For once PCB, take your fans into consideration

 

[Firebreaker]

Well, maybe because they don't need to considering they haven't indulged in fixing? Besides, you are forgetting that the PCB MADE Amir do these anti-match fixing campaigns as part of his rehab program. He didn't do it out of his own accord.

But ICC said that Amir helped them ACSU and went to repent his sins...........

 

[dauntless]

Throw hafeez out of the team and thank you sir for your service

 

[aniket1911]

If true then they can't be crucified for this.they are very much within their rights to voice their reservation against amir.

Inclusion of amir is not 'be all and end all' for Pakistan team tbh.

 

[Mamoon]

But ICC said that Amir helped them ACSU and went to repent his sins...........

Well because the asked him to help them. I don't think Saint Amir is doing all of this because he is now the champion of morality.

 

[ads101]

The point is that they all disgraced the country. This is what Azhar basically said to the media.

Disagree. Hafeez and Ajmal caught chucking didn't 'disgrace the country'. Just their actions were found illegal with the new testing procedures. If anything the shame was on the old testing procedures and why they showed such different results to the new ones.

Afridi did disgrace the country. He got punished for it.

Think however Azhar is using the term disgrace for something bigger. Ball tampering or messing up the pitch isn't even in the same realm as fixing in terms of disgrace. And fixing is a a lot harder to forgive or tolerate.

 

[HuzaifaE]

If true then they can't be crucified for this.they are very much within their rights to voice their reservation against amir.

Inclusion of amir is not 'be all and end all' for Pakistan team tbh.

What part of "cricket board bending its back to a handful of protesters (among dozens who have no issue with Amir) ruins your board's integrity" doesn't make sense?

 

[khalil1986]

Well because the asked him to help them. I don't think Saint Amir is doing all of this because he is now the champion of morality.

Deluded people will believe what they want, as if Amir would have said nah can't be bothered helping.

 

[Mamoon]

Deluded people will believe what they want, as if Amir would have said nah can't be bothered helping.

Yes, fanboys will be fanboys.

 

[Slog]

You forgot to mention that in opposition Amir is a messiah sent from above who has never wronged anyone and has been taken advantage of his entire life.

It truly is mind boggling

I don't mind Amir returning but the way he is painted as some moral Superman and others are attacked to defend him makes me puke

 

[Mamoon]

Yes that is the biggest issue. I don't understand why he is now praised for his attitude and character. What has he done to earn these plaudits?

 

[hadi123]

Oh no
The more players unwilling to play with him, the more unlikely it is for him to play.
In Tests, maybe don't pick him cos Azhar Ali is likely our next captain and our test line up is settled anyway.

In ODI's and T20s though, we need Aamir badly.
In ODI's I can't see Azhar Ali lasting long anyway, I reckon he will get sacked as captain soon, if not dropped from ODI's altogether and Hafeez is already 35 so maybe wait a few years to get Amir back.

In T20s, Afridi is our captain and he is fine with Aamir, Azhar Ali doesn't play T20s and I would drop Hafeez from the T20 squad as he has been doing rubbish in that format anyway.

Conclusion:
Can't see Amir playing tests for a very long time
Can see Amir playing ODI's after 2-3 years
Can see Amir playing T20s in foreseeable future

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[timeflies]

PCB will not axe two senior players, especially with one being captain of our ODI side just to get Amir back. They're probably imagining how it would look to the outside world. I can already see twisted headlines being made of that. Yes I know he has completed his sentence and has done his job to deserve another chance but that's not how its going to be portrayed and I don't think PCB will be willing to take that step. They need to find a way to settle this among the players or it'll become a little more difficult for Amir.

 

[Ahson8]

'Azhar Ali acha larka hai Azhar Ali ko smjhaya jaye k Amir jese khiladi poori duniya main bohot kam hote hain. Azhar or Amir dono Pakistan k liye bohot zuroori hain. Hafeez na khelta tou na khelay koi bara masla nhi' -
Mohammad Yousuf

Lol at the last line.

 

[khalil1986]

It truly is mind boggling

I don't mind Amir returning but the way he is painted as some moral Superman and others are attacked to defend him makes me puke

Exactly the clamour for Amir is mind boggling, Amir will never really be respected the same way and I am happy for him to be included in team as long as he is performing but his rope should be short as soon as he messes up will give him the boot back to domestic to start again.

Hope he gets zero leniency if he doesn't perform.

 

[GreenKnightRises]

lol. who needs rubbish Azhar anyway. good riddance if he doesn't play

BTW I don't think Misbah would say something like that, he is smart and calm enough to deal such case.

 

[khalil1986]

Yes that is the biggest issue. I don't understand why he is now praised for his attitude and character. What has he done to earn these plaudits?

Absolute zilch, he hasn't even truly confessed but just done what was required of him to get in the good books.

 

[Slog]

Exactly the clamour for Amir is mind boggling, Amir will never really be respected the same way and I am happy for him to be included in team as long as he is performing but his rope should be short as soon as he messes up will give him the boot back to domestic to start again.

Hope he gets zero leniency if he doesn't perform.

My issue is that others are having mud thrown at them like being called tax cheaters (incorrect) or whatever because they oppose him. Do they read what they type. Amir freakin went to jail and you are using a moral argument to support his case

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Solution to all this:Sharyar Khan sits down with Azhar,Hafeez,Misbah,Afridi,Younis,Shoaib and Amir and discuss the solution.

 

[Balthazar]

This is getting funnier now with fans comparing fixers with the chuckers.

 

[aniket1911]

What part of "cricket board bending its back to a handful of protesters (among dozens who have no issue with Amir) ruins your board's integrity" doesn't make sense?

If those handful of protesters involve your ODI captain then it does make sense and also its funny that 3 national players in team are considered "handfull" . Its not ruining PCB's integrity if anything it just amplifies it by understanding what the team wants and significant amout of players doesn't want him in the team.

 

[Ankit007]

Was Hafeez part of the team when fixing happened? If so then it is understandable what they are doing. It just wouldn't feel right to play with the fixers again.

Its understandable even if he was not. Come on boy

 

[Salman]

Well, maybe because they don't need to considering they haven't indulged in fixing? Besides, you are forgetting that the PCB MADE Amir do these anti-match fixing campaigns as part of his rehab program. He didn't do it out of his own accord.

He was speaking publicly about the dangers way before the PCB got involved with his rehab program, still stick by what i said, don't recall much efforts given to anti matching fixing education by Azhar, Hafeez, Misbah or anyone else by that matter, apart from maybe a paid advert somewhere but that's about it.

 

[Mamoon]

lol. who needs rubbish Azhar anyway. good riddance if he doesn't play

BTW I don't think Misbah would say something like that, he is smart and calm enough to deal such case.

Yes, a Test batsman with an average of 44 and 9 hundreds before entering his peak years is rubbish. I didn't know we had all-time greats waiting in the ranks in domestic cricket, who are also happy to play with Saint Amir.

 

[Mamoon]

He was speaking publicly about the dangers way before the PCB got involved with his rehab program, still stick by what i said, don't recall much efforts given to anti matching fixing education by Azhar, Hafeez, Misbah or anyone else by that matter, apart from maybe a paid advert somewhere but that's about it.

I don't see the need of doing all that when you haven't been owned while fixing like Amir was and got your backside banned for 5 years.

 

[#GreenRoars]

What the hell is wrong with them?? Errrggggg

 

[Mamoon]

Absolute zilch, he hasn't even truly confessed but just done what was required of him to get in the good books.

Yes. He only confessed after playing all his cards and all the campaigns and other superficial nonsense has been part of his ICC/PCB rehab. I fail to understand what's the big deal here.

 

[khalil1986]

My issue is that others are having mud thrown at them like being called tax cheaters (incorrect) or whatever because they oppose him. Do they read what they type. Amir freakin went to jail and you are using a moral argument to support his case

Just the way people tick unfortunately and will use any means to justify what they want.

 

[khalil1986]

Yes. He only confessed after playing all his cards and all the campaigns and other superficial nonsense has been part of his ICC/PCB rehab. I fail to understand what's the big deal here.

Even still I don't recall seeing him in any clip which he has confessed seen him beat around the bush but that's about it but than again I haven't had any concern of what they have been doing as don't care about any individuals.

 

[#GreenRoars]

This is getting ridiculous now

 

[Boi]

Respect to both of them for taking a stand and sticking to their principles. I can very much understand why it would be hard for Azhar to accept Amir's return, seen as though it was Azhar's debut tour where he had to deal with all that, that came with the trio's fixing.

Interesting to see how PCB deals with this though. Will they bow down to the public pressure of asking for Amir's return and put these two on a stick or will these stands being taken have any effect?

 

[osee_bhai]

Once again, this showcases the poor judgement of the PCB. How did they not take the senior players, or atleast the captains, and have an open discussion with them about Amir before the camp. Or have Amir directly speak to them and plead his allegiance? Once again the PCB have been shown to be reactionary, with no planning/insight whatsoever.

"This is my decision and we are open to discuss with the PCB..." Azhar.

That means PCB haven't even discussed the issue with our ODI and future Test captain! I really think this whole thing could have been avoided if the players had a chance to express themselves properly.

 

[khalil1986]

What the hell is wrong with them?? Errrggggg

This sums it up really, nothing is wrong with them.

They have a stance which they are within their rights to have.

 

[Shafi]

PCB should act smart way. Leave Amir for 2-3 tours and check the performance of Hafeez and Azhar. Most likely both will fail as batsmen and especially Azhar as captain. Then PCB can drop both of them and choose Malik as a captain and a promising batsman to replace these two clowns.

 

[HuzaifaE]

This sums it up really, nothing is wrong with them.

They have a stance which they are within their rights to have.

Absolutely, but if they think they should get to govern the politics and decision making of the international side based on their wishes via protests, they should be left empty handed.

 

[Shafi]

Looks like Azhar and Hafeez don't care whether we are no. 9 or 12. As long they get paid they are not care about winning and ranking. Selfish!!!

 

[Abdullah719]

Once again, this showcases the poor judgement of the PCB. How did they not take the senior players, or atleast the captains, and have an open discussion with them about Amir before the camp. Or have Amir directly speak to them and plead his allegiance? Once again the PCB have been shown to be reactionary, with no planning/insight whatsoever.

"This is my decision and we are open to discuss with the PCB..." Azhar.

That means PCB haven't even discussed the issue with our ODI and future Test captain! I really think this whole thing could have been avoided if the players had a chance to express themselves properly.

This is a good point. I know it is an unusual case but the PCB should have had some discussions, etc, when they were aware that some players had reservations. Now again we're becoming a circus in public and it will look like the team is fragmented. No PR sense.