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Babar Azam in T20Is - Waqar Younis or Mickey Arthur's thinking?

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Waqar Younis suggesting that he would prefer 3 hard hitters in the top 3 in the Pakistan batting order in T20Is, but Mickey Arthur preferring Babar Azam to be at the top of the order and holding the innings together.

Thoughts and whose thinking is better regarding Babar Azam in T20Is?
 
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Mickey's obviously. You need an anchor in the side who the other batsmen can bat around m.
 
I think this will help Babar develop his power game more.

Like Arthur's idea more because if Babar is there it allows the others to play around him...if Pakistan scores in excess of 160-170+ with our bowling attack we usually win. Stats back this as well.

Now if we were to find an explosive opener aka Sherjeel Khan type, different story (can't wait for him to be unbanned, don't know if he will be picked again though?!)
 
He used to play Asad shafiq in t20s and dropped sharjeel after he scored a 23 ball 50.
 
Let the results of the team under their tenure as coach serve as a benchmark for their cricketing analysis.
 
For a team like Pakistan, Babar is perfect at 1-down. With Babar in the side, we will always have a chance of posting a par score (which is 160 nowadays). I'd rather have a more flamboyant opener though, but it hasn't been easy for us to find one (or keep one out of trouble once we have found one).
 
While I agree with Waqar in principle, he is talking a big game now while doing very little to change our timid batting as coach

easy to talk when you have no responsibility
 
Usually Waqar does the opposite of what he says.

Once you ask him what he has done he will start blaming A till Z.
 
For a team like Pakistan, Babar is perfect at 1-down. With Babar in the side, we will always have a chance of posting a par score (which is 160 nowadays). I'd rather have a more flamboyant opener though, but it hasn't been easy for us to find one (or keep one out of trouble once we have found one).

I agree for a team like Pakistan, Babar is gold and should be opening the innings. For Indian team, I would never get him anywhere near our T20 team.
 
I agree for a team like Pakistan, Babar is gold and should be opening the innings. For Indian team, I would never get him anywhere near our T20 team.

Btw I hate mannish Pandey who is more like Babar. Hopefully our selectors would choose someon3 like hooda or Sarfraz khan or Samson or pant over mannish.
 
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Its a very good move , babaar should be opening , he is not a power hitter , batting on top will be better for him.
 
Waqar knows nothing about batting. During his tenure as captain and as coach he shuffled the batting order consistently. No batsman knows where he will bat the next game except openers. Remember guys this WAQAR played Bilal Asif as an opener
 
Waqar and MISBAH didn’t leave one proper batsman in the LOI side for the future for all the years they were responsible for. Don’t take things seriously when Waqar talks about batting, is as simple as that.
 
I will go with Waqar's way even though he used to do the opposite when he was coach. Talat or Sarfaraz can play that anchor role if needed.
 
Opening with Babar in ODIs & T20s is the right move till Sharjeel returns. It will ensure we can put up good totals consistently.
 
Every t20 side has an anchor.
Root and Kohli were both highest run getter in last t20 world cup.
Eng for example chased down 230 only due to root. He scored 83 and anchored the chase. Had there been another hitter after openers their chase would have ended before starting
Top 3 of ind are not six hitters. And they are able to score match winning totals. Add to that baber can score at a sr of 175 when needed. We saw that against nz and wxi
 
In an ideal world we would have had Fakhar Zaman and Sharjeel Khan opening the batting for us in T20s but nehow since that didn’t happen Babar is the best other option since Pakistan doesn’t have any other hard hitting openers that are good enough for international cricket.
 
Waqar knows nothing about batting. During his tenure as captain and as coach he shuffled the batting order consistently. No batsman knows where he will bat the next game except openers. Remember guys this WAQAR played Bilal Asif as an opener

Don't forget giving 39 year old Rifatullah Mohmand debut.

How can he talk about a hard hitting top order when he was playing Azhar Ali, Ahmed Shehzad, Mohammad Hafeez and Bilal Asif as our top four against teams like Zimbabwe ?
 
If we had 3 guys like Fakhar they could occupy the top 3 and Babar wouldn't even be in contention for a spot in the top order. But sadly we live in the real world. The only other hard hitting opener in contention so far is Sahibzada Farhan who I like but he isn't international material as of now.
 
Agree with mickey Babar can bat through and the likes of fakhar and ali can smash it

Every team needs a solidifier who the team can blaze around Babars our man
 
Mickey's of course.

Been saying for a while now that Babar has got to open in T20s, and thankfully Mickey has done just that. The results are in front of us.

Shehzad's spot is pretty much gone now.
 
Without using any judgement - I'll take opposite of WY's suggestion .... even if it's a choice between picking T20 openers - Sharjeel or Azhar. That guy is clueless personified -

As player - he had a tango with the guy who should have been closest to him - and bad blood started when he agreed to be the bunny of Karachi block - read Javed, Shoaib, Muztaba, Tauseef, Anwar ... to oust Wasim from Captaincy.

As Captain - we have seen 2003 WC
As Coach - 3 bites is enough pie
As a Commentator - suffering every day .......

Personally, I would take Babar as opener (without Arthur's chice) because apart from him all other hitters are lefti. Also, against popular myth, I actually think Babar is a fantastic T20/ODI player - it's the other end that's filled with Azhar, Imam, Shehzad, Haris, Sarfraz, MoHa, Malik ..... exposing him.

I have analyzed his batting enough (even before that dot ball stat, one can check my post (s) - I wrote every time that his balance & range of strokes are fantastic for rotating strike). At present he is like 53/127 stats T20 player - if I take runs/innings (average is inflated for Not outs), it comes around 38/125+ stats; which in a linear plot reads like 38 of 29 at an average game - that's resulting PAK's average total to around 170 (It's inflated for last few games in NZ & against WI, but so is Babar's stats).

If I make his stats like 35 of 23 (that takes SR over 150) - net, net it's 3 runs less for 6 balls saved .... don't think this Shehzad, Sarfraz, MoHa, Malik model batting line up is good enough to take that 167 (170-3) to 190 with their dynamism for those extra 6 balls. But, if that selfish guy's average of 53, comes to 35 level at say 150 SR, this wonderful No. 1 team will struggle to play out 20 overs more often than comfort, in fact often enough for alarming .... They use similar logic in base ball as well - putting batting average in co-relation to Home runs. I heard once Alex Rod saying that, - at present, I am hitting around 50+ home runs/season with a batting average of less than 0.300 - I can try to take that average to 0.325, or even 0.350, but it'll reduce Home Run significantly - I don't think that helps us (NY Yankees) much.

Babar is fantastic asset for PAK team, best since MoYo by some distance and Arthur should protect him against vultures. He is reaching 50 at around 35-38 balls, which is 12th/13th over, and that's perfect for an opener with that average - one out of 5 innings, if he can bat for 50+ balls, his last 12-15 balls will earn 24-29 runs at least; rest is the job of the No. 6 to 10, who are quite good at instant hitting.

Fix where it needs to be fixed - Babar is fine as opener. 2 down, one to go.
 
Though Waqar is usually clueless about picking right players, I agree to him here.

Babar has only played at a SR of over 112 against weakened teams who've visited Pakistan.

He's not a T20 player in general.

Heck he even lost us two ODIs during Australian tour when he batted at SR of 60s/70s while chasing 330+
 
You have to look at the pieces in front of you.

Yes, in an ideal world you can use Waqar's approach but the players have to be right. It can't be a bunch of no-name sloggers getting pushed in front of Babar Azam for the hell of it.

With what Mickey has to work with, Babar as opener makes a lot of sense and is the correct move.
 
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