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I knew has bottled it against quality teams / on the big stage, but did not imagine it to be so bad. Should not bat in the top 3 in T20s.#sochnabhimanahai
We are not allowed to have anyone else captain besides him.
No one caresI knew has bottled it against quality teams / on the big stage, but did not imagine it to be so bad. Should not bat in the top 3 in T20s.
Thats not the point. The point is that he has been hyped to the moon. all we hear is Babar is the best, Babar has a fantastic record. Even people saying he is the number 1 bat in world cricket, how can you get such a label with these poor stats?What's the point of all these threads when he's been made captain now. Let's just back the guy and the team.
He struggled in back to back T20 WCs and was exposed big time on the ODI WC, that are 3 tournaments. Asia cup is a tournament and it is an important one. Fact is he flopped in 4 tournaments.Since when is Asia cup a major event. No one cares about that cup. It's all about ICC tournament where he has struggled over the last 2 events.
That's what you get with obsessed fans they'll hype their favs to the moon and back.Thats not the point. The point is that he has been hyped to the moon. all we hear is Babar is the best, Babar has a fantastic record. Even people saying he is the number 1 bat in world cricket, how can you get such a label with these poor stats?
Babar Azam was the highest scorer in 2020 t20 WC, but yes he struggled. At least be honest. As I said he flopped in the WC and the last t20 WC. Asia cup is a rubbish tournament with only India being a top team. I can bet if he performed in those Asia cups you tune would change to something along the line it's a nothing tour tournament.He struggled in back to back T20 WCs and was exposed big time on the ODI WC, that are 3 tournaments. Asia cup is a tournament and it is an important one. Fact is he flopped in 4 tournaments.
He was the highest scorer in t20 WC I hope you stick to your words regarding stats.That's what you get with obsessed fans they'll hype their favs to the moon and back.
What's absurd is that they'll know all these stats and despite that they'll go full guns blazing against those who say anything about that player.
I'm not one of those who takes sides of players and so on and so forth.He was the highest scorer in t20 WC I hope you stick to your words regarding stats.
You mean WT20 in 2021, he has a pathetic SR. All he does when in so called form is consume deliveries get a 50 and get out. Pakistan does not win that many trophies, so Asia cup is indeed a big trophy for Pak. But his failures in big matches even in his so called great T20 2021 is for all to be seen.Babar Azam was the highest scorer in 2020 t20 WC, but yes he struggled. At least be honest. As I said he flopped in the WC and the last t20 WC. Asia cup is a rubbish tournament with only India being a top team. I can bet if he performed in those Asia cups you tune would change to something along the line it's a nothing tour tournament.
You done need an anchor in T20s. All he does is make sure to increase the RRR to 12 plus once he gets out. Look at his SR in WT20 2021 60 but with a very poor SR. Normally once you have such an average SR should increase as well.I would rather open with Saim and Haris. Babar needs to be he anchor at number 3 where he can play with his slow SR.
No please keep Haris away from the side... he is nothing more than a tulla player.I would rather open with Saim and Haris. Babar needs to be he anchor at number 3 where he can play with his slow SR.
I really like the look of Haris and I think he needs to be persisted with. Go and watch the highlights of his innings in the qualifiers in PSL 2023.No please keep Haris away from the side... he is nothing more than a tulla player.
I think Babar and Saim opening duo would be the best one as we have seen in PSL.
Sorry can't discuss with someone who is not honest you said he flopped when stated he was the highest run scorer now it's his Sr which I agree wasn't good enough, but to say he flopped is something else.You mean WT20 in 2021, he has a pathetic SR. All he does when in so called form is consume deliveries get a 50 and get out. Pakistan does not win that many trophies, so Asia cup is indeed a big trophy for Pak. But his failures in big matches even in his so called great T20 2021 is for all to be seen.
Fair enough. I agree he needs to improve I was just pointing out that the poster said he flopped while he was the leading scorer.I'm not one of those who takes sides of players and so on and so forth.
I support the team Pakistan and not just individuals. Yes at times there are some who deserve to be in the team but aren't that can be annoying yet I'm not biased towards any player.
Babar IMO by going with those stats has to improve and become a better player as he can do as those stats don't justify his ability or quality.
To be completly fair to Bobby (and this is coming from his critic) batting wise he's done well in 2021 and even in the world cup 2023, the other events were poor.Found this post from another poster.
On what is the hype actually based?
Should a player with these stats even bat in the top 3?
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You think he'll improve his sr?Sorry can't discuss with someone who is not honest you said he flopped when stated he was the highest run scorer now it's his Sr which I agree wasn't good enough, but to say he flopped is something else.
Asia cup is a rubbish trophy even if we win it a million times it doesn't matter. I would swap a million Asia cups for a test series win against any of the top teams.
No the plan is that he gets a 50. That will be 50 out of 160-170 runs we need to get.To be completly fair to Bobby (and this is coming from his critic) batting wise he's done well in 2021 and even in the world cup 2023, the other events were poor.
The alarming this is his SR. People need to focus on that.
Someone of his caliber will he a huge liability with the sr he carries.
If he wants people do the fast scoring, bring fakhar, saim, sharjeel and actual strikersNo the plan is that he gets a 50. That will be 50 out of 160-170 runs we need to get.
Others will do the fast scoring. We’ve got this bro.
No point trying to work this out anymore. They want paid holidays. No accountability. Everyone’s in it for themselves, why not I guess?If he wants people do the fast scoring, bring fakhar, saim, sharjeel and actual strikers.
What is up with this friendship clique. Stleast he could have chosen Winner friends instead of losers
He's the highest scorer because he's mostly an opener, again impressive that he managed to top the chart in 2021, but his competition would have been other openers.He was the highest scorer in t20 WC I hope you stick to your words regarding stats.
Yeah, Sharjeel is a "winner" with the following record vs the major sides:If he wants people do the fast scoring, bring fakhar, saim, sharjeel and actual strikers.
What is up with this friendship clique. Stleast he could have chosen Winner friends instead of losers
I hope he does improve his SR because he clearly has the ability to bat a bit quicker but due to selfishness and lack of courage he doesn't.You think he'll improve his sr?
One thing that's been consistent in Bobby is his abysmal sr. In 2021 it cost us the semi final( Alongside hasan, Shaheen, Hafeez and rauf)
I never said his Sr was great did I say? So spare is a needless topic.He's the highest scorer because he's mostly an opener, again impressive that he managed to top the chart in 2021, but his competition would have been other openers.
And news flash in t20, openers try to utilise the PP and tend to get out. They don't hog the strike and waste the first 4 overs
Imad had an economy of 8.33 in that game compared to 10, 11 and 13. But his one over realesed pressure from the game so fair enough.I hope he does improve his SR because he clearly has the ability to bat a bit quicker but due to selfishness and lack of courage he doesn't.
You forgot to add Imad in there who was also pathetic after we had them on the ropes.
His over gave the momentum back to Australia till shadab outperformed again on a big stage.Imad had an economy of 8.33 in that game compared to 10, 11 and 13. But his one over realesed pressure from the game so fair enough.
And yeah I hope he improves his SR as well. For the sake of Pakistan atleast.
Captain Azam will bat at whatever position he likesFound this post from another poster.
On what is the hype actually based?
Should a player with these stats even bat in the top 3?
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Real pakistani fans never believed in the hype.Found this post from another poster.
On what is the hype actually based?
Should a player with these stats even bat in the top 3?
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Sharjeel the fixer hack is struggling in Ramadan tournaments while unknown club level players are scoring tons for fun. This is after he was humiliated in sindh league where he was one of the worst players along with leading his side to lose all the matches, but here you have posters who think he's better than Babar lol. Naseem as a batsmen alone will outperform him comfortably.Yeah, Sharjeel is a "winner" with the following record vs the major sides:
ODIs:
23 matches, average 27
T20Is:
16 matches, average 26
One of the biggest failures to play 35+ matches for Pakistan, a failed hack who on top of being a rubbish batsman, was a liability in the field and also a match fixer.
But he should have been backed by Babar.
As I keep saying, the quality of posting on this forum is sinking faster than Titanic. It seems that the reappointment of Babar as captained has caused severe psychological issues to multiple posters.
Yes real Pakistani fans believe is hacks and fixer like akmal, sharjeel etcReal pakistani fans never believed in the hype.
It was mostly when Bobby came commentators hyped him to the moon with the king stands tall yet again nonsense.
After that as he got more connected in political affairs, it just became endless drama over endless drama
Found this post from another poster.
On what is the hype actually based?
Should a player with these stats even bat in the top 3?
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Yes real Pakistani fans believe is hacks and fixer like akmal, sharjeel etc
Brother you're not understanding.Yes real Pakistani fans believe is hacks and fixer like akmal, sharjeel etc
But I am not a real fan because of babar anyway. You are the real fan for supporting fixers and mentally strong beasts.Real Pakistani fans can also count how many hundreds Babar has scored against Uganda
Chacha, let your blind hate for Imad go.His over gave the momentum back to Australia till shadab outperformed again on a big stage.
Sharjeel had his chance for Pakistan and flopped every time pretty much. Just because he had 1 decent series 8 years ago doesn't mean he comes back to the team. Have you even seen him play recently?Brother you're not understanding.
Sharjeel is a striker, so is fakhar, so is saim, you can have just fakhar and saim open if you wish,
But the reason I quoted sharjeel is because he was the only opener to not struggle in Australia where historically we've been poor, but you can exclude him.
I also included usman Khan and haris for the same reason, Babar and rizzu aren't t20 players.
I want the best for Pakistan mate. That's all. I'm thinking from a t20 perspective, rizwan innings in psl final, he struggled and played this way against medicore bowlers, what do you think will happen when he faces tougher bowlers? Guess what a repeat of 2022 wc.
The winner thing was more so a referral to his past games mate.Sharjeel the fixer hack is struggling in Ramadan tournaments while unknown club level players are scoring tons for fun. This is after he was humiliated in sindh league where he was one of the worst players along with leading his side to lose all the matches, but here you have posters who think he's better than Babar lol. Naseem as a batsmen alone will outperform him comfortably.
But I am not a real fan because of babar anyway. You are the real fan for supporting fixers and mentally strong beasts.
His fans are deluded beyond belief. He was never good enough to begin with and they are crying for him in 2024.Sharjeel the fixer hack is struggling in Ramadan tournaments while unknown club level players are scoring tons for fun. This is after he was humiliated in sindh league where he was one of the worst players along with leading his side to lose all the matches, but here you have posters who think he's better than Babar lol. Naseem as a batsmen alone will outperform him comfortably.
I don't think he has done well in wc23.If he has played well ,he must have won 2 matches atleast on his performance.He went missing against aus,eng ,sa.pak must have won 2 out of those 3 matches. Against eng in a less pressure match too,he went missing.To be completly fair to Bobby (and this is coming from his critic) batting wise he's done well in 2021 and even in the world cup 2023, the other events were poor.
Real Pakistani fans should believe in the hype of Imad Wasim and Sharjeel Khan.Real pakistani fans never believed in the hype.
It was mostly when Bobby came commentators hyped him to the moon with the king stands tall yet again nonsense.
After that as he got more connected in political affairs, it just became endless drama over endless drama

But Babar and everyone was to balme but not Imad. Ok makes sense. We should say anything about your heros even though when it's a fact. Just a reminder which you clearly don't like shadab the rubbish cricketer comfortably outperformed Imad on a big stage.Chacha, let your blind hate for Imad go.
Cricket is a team sport. A bad failure reflects the entire team.
Matthew wade was Destroying us but we had a chance of get him out, if we did we might have made it more competitive, instead we dropped him and he tonked 3 sixes ending the game.
Imad can't be the be all and end all of everything that's bad In cricket (Metaphorical btw, again this statement is not literal).
He didn't win anything for Pakistan so not sure where you got this from? The only thing he ever won was humiliation, if that's what you are applying than I do apologize.The winner thing was more so a referral to his past games mate.
I said winners like, key word like
Bro not everything is literal and to the point.
His cocky pre-tournament pressers,I don't think he has done well in wc23.If he has played well ,he must have won 2 matches atleast on his performance.He went missing against aus,eng ,sa.pak must have won 2 out of those 3 matches. Against eng in a less pressure match too,he went missing.
Since you watch uganda I am sure you can tell us some of their players without a Google search. It's probably good you watch uganda their players would have more talent than Imad and some of your other favorites. Let us know what players to keep an eye out for this WC. Thanks in advance.This is why I prefer to watch Uganda. They don't have any fixers like other teams. It's just a shame that they always get bullied by Babar Azam.
His cocky pre-tournament pressers,
“Top 4? That’s too low for us. We are going for the final”.
Yeah I mean your playing a World Cup against Nepal, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Thailand, Brazil, Nigeria, Iceland, Columbia and Azerbaijan
Shadab outperformed imad in that game? That's why I didn't bring him up?But Babar and everyone was to balme but not Imad. Ok makes sense. We should say anything about your heros even though when it's a fact. Just a reminder which you clearly don't like shadab the rubbish cricketer comfortably outperformed Imad on a big stage.
He did well enough stats wise. Obviously it still reflects his biggest weakness which is that he is not a match winner by any means.I don't think he has done well in wc23.If he has played well ,he must have won 2 matches atleast on his performance.He went missing against aus,eng ,sa.pak must have won 2 out of those 3 matches. Against eng in a less pressure match too,he went missing.
Shadab outperformed imad in that game? That's why I didn't bring him up?
And even said imad was one of the contributing factors in the defeat?
What else do you want me to say? Let your predjuice aside for once before going into attack mode lol.
Ik you want me to say the words " Imad is the sole reason and Babar zindabad, but sorry mate I stick to facts as to what happened in 2021 sf."
So you're using my logic against me, but that logic does not apply for usman because you don't rate him?Sharjeel had his chance for Pakistan and flopped every time pretty much. Just because he had 1 decent series 8 years ago doesn't mean he comes back to the team. Have you even seen him play recently?
Fakhar had a million chances and flopped at opening for Pakistan in t20s where his numbers and performances were million times worse than Babar and rizwan. Again as in the Psl he was the worst opener in the tournament against those mediocre bowlers. What chance does have have against better bowlers? I am using the same logic you used for rizwan.
Saim is young and for loads of potential he should open alongside Babar who are our 2 most in form openers currently.
I don't rate Usman while haris needs to develop few brain cells.
El Classico
Bowlers from these countries could do a better job than Imad Wasim as an ODI bowler vs the top 5 sides.His cocky pre-tournament pressers,
“Top 4? That’s too low for us. We are going for the final”.
Yeah I mean your playing a World Cup against Nepal, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Thailand, Brazil, Nigeria, Iceland, Columbia and Azerbaijan
I agree. Sharjeel was always a flat footed slogger with no potential at international level. His fielding was shambolic to say the least and provided comic relief. To top it off a fixer and an unfit player, but he's better than one of our greats.His fans are deluded beyond belief. He was never good enough to begin with and they are crying for him in 2024.
Sharjeel was given a fair chance by PCB after he returned. He got multiple PSL seasons to showcase his skills and he did nothing.
He even played a couple of T20Is in 2021 and failed like always.
He is one of the most unlikable players to play for Pakistan. Poor performer, poor fitness, corrupt.
He has zero redeeming qualities and if you are Sharjeel fan it says a lot about your mindset.
El Classico
Pakistan v Uganda
You said you watch them play great news for you
Yeah that’s why he DELETED Peshawar Zalmi and Multan Sultans a few weeks ago.Bowlers from these countries could do a better job than Imad Wasim as an ODI bowler vs the top 5 sides.
Average of 60. It will put a part-timer to shame.
Pay per view bruv. Elite superstars on show.What channel?
Seems like you forget what you write after 2 mins I sated a fact about the game and you said let your hate fo for Imad even though you agreed. Sorry to say you don't make any sense at all.Shadab outperformed imad in that game? That's why I didn't bring him up?
And even said imad was one of the contributing factors in the defeat?
What else do you want me to say? Let your predjuice aside for once before going into attack mode lol.
Ik you want me to say the words " Imad is the sole reason and Babar zindabad, but sorry mate I stick to facts as to what happened in 2021 sf."
Since you watch uganda I am sure you can tell us some of their players without a Google search. It's probably good you watch uganda their players would have more talent than Imad and some of your other favorites. Let us know what players to keep an eye out for this WC. Thanks in advance.
Theirs a lot of games where he has, many of them you can watch on the sports central channel, but noHe didn't win anything for Pakistan so not sure where you got this from? The only thing he ever won was humiliation, if that's what you are applying than I do apologize.
Yes. They were 50 over games.Yeah that’s why he DELETED Peshawar Zalmi and Multan Sultans a few weeks ago.
I want you to be consistent with your logic. It's got nothing to do with Usman. I didn't say I agree with you logic or your views on how to rate players and neither do I want to be rating some of the players you rate.So you're using my logic against me, but that logic does not apply for usman because you don't rate him?
Okay
I've never spent as much time on PP as the last couple of days. Gives me pleasure to see agenda driven people getting humiliatedI actually feel sorry for such posters as they are clearly fueled with hate or no knowledge of the game.
Masaba sending down ROCKETS which Bobsy will carve to the boundary!Their captain is Brian Masaba. Watch out for him because he'll be bowling to Babar in the next series.
His fans do bhangra because he scored 3 fifties in losing causes in Australia on pitches where Warner was scoring 150+ for fun and Australia had racked up 350+.I agree. Sharjeel was always a flat footed slogger with no potential at international level. His fielding was shambolic to say the least and provided comic relief. To top it off a fixer and an unfit player, but he's better than one of our greats.
I actually feel sorry for such posters as they are clearly fueled with hate or no knowledge of the game.
Imad has an economy of 8.33 In the game but he realesed pressure so fair enough.Seems like you forget what you write after 2 mins I sated a fact about the game and you said let your hate fo for Imad even though you agreed. Sorry to say you don't make any sense at all.
What? According to this logic everyone is a match winner than. Thanks for clarifying your criteria.Theirs a lot of games where he has, many of them you can watch on the sports central channel, but no
Sharjeel has not single handidely won games in an 11 man team game. I'm sorry that he isn't a Superman.
He was bowling to ODI/Test batsmen playing with 120 balls to score runs.Yes. They were 50 over games.
It seems like this will continue because they get a kick out of it.I've never spent as much time on PP as the last couple of days. Gives me pleasure to see agenda driven people getting humiliated
Masaba sending down ROCKETS which Bobsy will carve to the boundary!
High octane cricket! Finally Babar will get that cherished hundred against the mighty Uganda
Brother, Discussing babar's stats in cups isn't agenda driven.I've never spent as much time on PP as the last couple of days. Gives me pleasure to see agenda driven people getting humiliated