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Not surprised Lehman got away with it...Absolute joke.
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Ball-tampering: Steve Smith suspended for a Test, Cameron Bancroft handed 3 demerit pts [Update#677]
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Wasn't it obvious - sponsors have pressed button, so Sutherland is behaving appropriately, but at the same time he can't make people upset, who has few aces under their sleeve as well.
This is what I posted few hours back - before this PC
Lehman has an advantage - Smith can call his name, but he also should have someone's name above sitting at CA - I don't think, he'll be squeezed enough so that he starts calling names above .......
I might be proven wrong, but let's wait and see - my hunch is Lehman won't be sacked, rather he would step down; things will be defused in a year or two and he'll be back at CA in some Capacity .... add to that PLs & SLs contract.
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Except he hasn't resigned, or even offered to do so. I find it unbelievable he didn't know what was happening, particularity with the video of him and the sub.
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If Lehman has any sense then he should step down.
May be Lehman saw the tampering in giant screen and quickly reacted to the situation and send Handcomb to convey to Bancroft that what he was doing was not acceptable . Bancroft reacted to this and stuffed things up. So genuinely Lehman may not be aware, but did react to the situation.
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I also did consider that perhaps Lehman had seen it on the screen and reacted, told the guys to hide whatever it is away from the camera.
On the other hand, originally you couldn't see what was in his hand, he had his hand over the ball and was rubbing it, cameras didn't pick anything up, commentators didn't really react. At this point Lehmann was sending messages from the walkie talkie, even though we hadn't seen anything yet. So, perhaps he did know what was in his pocket.
On the other hand, originally you couldn't see what was in his hand, he had his hand over the ball and was rubbing it, cameras didn't pick anything up, commentators didn't really react. At this point Lehmann was sending messages from the walkie talkie, even though we hadn't seen anything yet. So, perhaps he did know what was in his pocket.
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Ball-Tampering scandal: Not the TV Crew, Fanie de Villiers first caught Australians cheating
Proof this has been going on for a while and everyone in the Australian team was in on it. Anybody who understands the game knows on which pitches it is likely to reverse. Through Fannie's input the camera crew were able to catch Bancroft with the yellow tape.
While everyone is applauding the television crew at Cape Town for exposing the Australian cricketers tampering the ball during the third day of the 3rd Test against South Africa, it was former South Africa cricketer Fanie de Villiers who played a major role in catching Australians red-handed. De Villiers, who was in the commentary team during the Test, told Australian radio station RSN927 that he had tipped off the camera crew that caught Cameron Bancroft rubbing the ball with a piece of yellow tape which the batsman then tried to conceal.
"We actually said to our cameramen: 'Go out. Have a look, boys. They are using something.' It's impossible for the ball to get altered like that on a cricket wicket where we knew there is a grass covering on. It's not a Pakistani wicket where there are cracks every centimetre," he said.
"I said earlier that if they could get reverse swing in the 26th, 27th, 28th over, then they are doing something different from what everyone else does," he added.
According to De Villiers, it took the cameramen an hour and a half of searching before they caught Bancroft in the act.
Bancroft admitted he panicked when he saw close-up images of himself on the big screen, leading him to try to conceal the tape in his underwear, an image shown around the cricketing world.
"I was nervous about it because with hundreds of cameras around that's always the risk," Bancroft said when he admitted to using the tape to rub against the ball.
https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/bal...ers-first-caught-australians-cheating-1829286
Proof this has been going on for a while and everyone in the Australian team was in on it. Anybody who understands the game knows on which pitches it is likely to reverse. Through Fannie's input the camera crew were able to catch Bancroft with the yellow tape.
While everyone is applauding the television crew at Cape Town for exposing the Australian cricketers tampering the ball during the third day of the 3rd Test against South Africa, it was former South Africa cricketer Fanie de Villiers who played a major role in catching Australians red-handed. De Villiers, who was in the commentary team during the Test, told Australian radio station RSN927 that he had tipped off the camera crew that caught Cameron Bancroft rubbing the ball with a piece of yellow tape which the batsman then tried to conceal.
"We actually said to our cameramen: 'Go out. Have a look, boys. They are using something.' It's impossible for the ball to get altered like that on a cricket wicket where we knew there is a grass covering on. It's not a Pakistani wicket where there are cracks every centimetre," he said.
"I said earlier that if they could get reverse swing in the 26th, 27th, 28th over, then they are doing something different from what everyone else does," he added.
According to De Villiers, it took the cameramen an hour and a half of searching before they caught Bancroft in the act.
Bancroft admitted he panicked when he saw close-up images of himself on the big screen, leading him to try to conceal the tape in his underwear, an image shown around the cricketing world.
"I was nervous about it because with hundreds of cameras around that's always the risk," Bancroft said when he admitted to using the tape to rub against the ball.
https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/bal...ers-first-caught-australians-cheating-1829286
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By that logic, England should've been investigated for their bowling in the last few years. I remember them being accused of getting the ball to swing in the 20-odd over mark couple of years ago too.
There is no question that this was not the "first time".
There is a reason Darren Lehmann is not fired already. They want him to stay quiet, which he wouldn't have if they fired him - that would have ended his career in cricket forever, with humiliation. Leaving him well motivated to go public. Right now, CA will take the bad publicity for not firing him - that's a better option than having him 'go rogue'.
There is no way that this was the "first time". And there is absolutely no way, that the bowlers in the team were unaware. That's simply not possible.
There is a reason Darren Lehmann is not fired already. They want him to stay quiet, which he wouldn't have if they fired him - that would have ended his career in cricket forever, with humiliation. Leaving him well motivated to go public. Right now, CA will take the bad publicity for not firing him - that's a better option than having him 'go rogue'.
There is no way that this was the "first time". And there is absolutely no way, that the bowlers in the team were unaware. That's simply not possible.
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What's the worst case scenario if Lehmann was fired? Elaborate?
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Sly dig at Pakistan for no reason
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Only if you believe cracks on a cricket pitch are a bad thing. They have made for great test cricket in India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh over the last few years.
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It was not Yellow Tape, it was Sandpaper.
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If Lehmann is fired, he would be humiliated and have no incentive to stay quiet. He could well go public with further information on how Aus team has cheated before. And more players were involved. Do you believe the fiction that none of the bowlers knew that the ball was being messed with to help them?
CA would be forced to act against guys like Starc, Hazelwood. Maybe even more. Potentially, Aus team would be exposed for systematically cheating over a longer period of time. It would absolutely devastate Cricket Australia's brand value in its home market. They simply cannot take that kind of risk.
Its much preferable for them to parrot a story that only 3 players were involved, and this was the only time it happened. Be seen as acting tough on the players. And then move on.
Imagine a fired off Lehmann going on a news TV show with a tell-all interview. CA can't afford that. That's why they are going through the trouble of supporting his 'innocence'. Even though they are taking a lot of short-term PR hits for not sacking him.
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are all aware of this, of course they can't ban everyone else AUS will compete with WI/ Bdesh/ ZIM in lower tier.
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are all aware of this, of course they can't ban everyone else AUS will compete with WI/ Bdesh/ ZIM in lower tier.
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Except no one is believing the official story!
Aussie for their faults are not snitches! How many Aussie players do you know come out and snitch on their colleagues?
The reason Lehman did not get fired because Smith has claimed the coach was not involved! Firing Lehman would've meant further lies exposed only to reveal the extent of the plot. It is nothing but damage control.
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It's not a dig. He is saying that Pakistani wickets are the only wickets where the conditions of the balls can naturally result in reverse swing - ala - no need to ball tamper!
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"I lied, I panicked – I'm sorry" : Cameron Bancroft
Banned Test opener Cameron Bancroft has admitted he “lied and panicked” on that fateful day in Cape Town, acknowledging he will now live a lifetime of regret. Bancroft fronted the press upon his arrival in Perth today after he was sent home by Cricket Australia and banned from international and Australian domestic cricket for nine months for his part in attempting to artificially alter the condition of the ball with sandpaper in the third Test against the Proteas.
The 25-year-old, heartbroken by the events that have unfolded in the past five days, expressed his deep regret for his actions, apologised to the Australian public and fans, and asked for forgiveness as he picks up the pieces of his shattered career.
“I want to say that I am very sorry,” Bancroft said. “I love the game of cricket and playing for my nation and my state there is no greater pride for me. “I am extremely disappointed and regret my actions. "I am sorry to the people who have looked up to me around the world, especially the kids. I know I’m a role model and haven’t acted like one in this instance. “I understand that I have let people down and I understand the disappointment in the broader community. “Words don’t mean much in these circumstances, so I will focus on my actions and my conduct going forward.
“Not a second has gone by since last Saturday evening when I haven’t wanted to turn back time and do the right thing in the lunch break. “It is something I will regret for the rest of my life. It is something I will look to improve on and earn the respect back of the community. “All I can do in the short term is ask for forgiveness, I hope you can allow it in your hearts to allow me to progress on that journey. “For now, I will do the best to contribute to the community.”
When asked about why he told reporters after play last Saturday evening that he used sticky tape to rough up the ball, which was later discovered to be sandpaper by CA’s internal investigation into the incident, Bancroft said: “Yes, I lied about the sandpaper and I panicked in that situation, and I’m very sorry.” The 25-year-old fought back tears as he explained how he had lost that which matters most to him – playing Test cricket for his country. “Through the last few days and sitting in my own company the thing that breaks my heart the most is the fact I’ve just given up my spot in the team to somebody else for free,” he said. “People know that I’ve worked so hard to be able to get to this point in my career and to know that I’ve given somebody else an opportunity for free is devastating to me. “I know it’s going to be a difficult journey back, but the moment I step foot outside this room is the moment I take steps forward to earning that respect back and get back that dream I’ve had as a kid growing up, and that’s playing Test cricket for Australia.”
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/cam...ks-sandpaper-smith-warner/2018-03-29?mode=amp
Banned Test opener Cameron Bancroft has admitted he “lied and panicked” on that fateful day in Cape Town, acknowledging he will now live a lifetime of regret. Bancroft fronted the press upon his arrival in Perth today after he was sent home by Cricket Australia and banned from international and Australian domestic cricket for nine months for his part in attempting to artificially alter the condition of the ball with sandpaper in the third Test against the Proteas.
The 25-year-old, heartbroken by the events that have unfolded in the past five days, expressed his deep regret for his actions, apologised to the Australian public and fans, and asked for forgiveness as he picks up the pieces of his shattered career.
“I want to say that I am very sorry,” Bancroft said. “I love the game of cricket and playing for my nation and my state there is no greater pride for me. “I am extremely disappointed and regret my actions. "I am sorry to the people who have looked up to me around the world, especially the kids. I know I’m a role model and haven’t acted like one in this instance. “I understand that I have let people down and I understand the disappointment in the broader community. “Words don’t mean much in these circumstances, so I will focus on my actions and my conduct going forward.
“Not a second has gone by since last Saturday evening when I haven’t wanted to turn back time and do the right thing in the lunch break. “It is something I will regret for the rest of my life. It is something I will look to improve on and earn the respect back of the community. “All I can do in the short term is ask for forgiveness, I hope you can allow it in your hearts to allow me to progress on that journey. “For now, I will do the best to contribute to the community.”
When asked about why he told reporters after play last Saturday evening that he used sticky tape to rough up the ball, which was later discovered to be sandpaper by CA’s internal investigation into the incident, Bancroft said: “Yes, I lied about the sandpaper and I panicked in that situation, and I’m very sorry.” The 25-year-old fought back tears as he explained how he had lost that which matters most to him – playing Test cricket for his country. “Through the last few days and sitting in my own company the thing that breaks my heart the most is the fact I’ve just given up my spot in the team to somebody else for free,” he said. “People know that I’ve worked so hard to be able to get to this point in my career and to know that I’ve given somebody else an opportunity for free is devastating to me. “I know it’s going to be a difficult journey back, but the moment I step foot outside this room is the moment I take steps forward to earning that respect back and get back that dream I’ve had as a kid growing up, and that’s playing Test cricket for Australia.”
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/cam...ks-sandpaper-smith-warner/2018-03-29?mode=amp
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Sussex - Bancroft will not be our oversees player this season.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Cameron Bancroft will not be joining <a href="https://twitter.com/SomersetCCC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SomersetCCC</a> as an overseas player this season. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SSN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SSN</a> <a href="https://t.co/fx8vImyouq">pic.twitter.com/fx8vImyouq</a></p>— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/979343136047747073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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At least he's been honest. He made a mistake and now has to pay the price of it.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today I lodged the paperwork with Cricket Australia and will be accepting the sanction handed down. I would love to put this behind me and will do whatever it takes to earn back the trust of the Australian public. Thank you to all those who have sent messages of support</p>— Cameron Bancroft (@cbancroft4) <a href="https://twitter.com/cbancroft4/status/981441426230792193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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All three banned players have accepted their sanctions
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It's always the AWAY team that gets caught ball tampering. Any ball tampering done by home team is swept under the carpet by broadcasters...lol
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The said thing is the Australian media is as much to blame for all this mess. They started it
For years opposition would go to Australia and be humiliated and intimidated by the Australian public and media. After SA bullied Australia in Australia the Australian media went out of their limbs to publicly humiliate Faf. They don't like SA winning there, never have, anything to try and discredit us was high on their agenda. Faf of course got the support that he rightly deserved. It was totally humiliating for the Australian media when a David Warner footage surfaced applying lip gloss to a cricket ball which they buried. Of course they didn't run with that. It didn't suit their narrative.
I remember a show by Mbangwa on Supersport prior to the Aussies coming here, it was along the lines of how farely the Australian's are treated here by the media and public at large. Whereas in Australia the media are the first instigators and lay the platform for the Australian team to intimidate the opposition, with their fans later joining in.
In hindsight that show rallied the nation, it set the agenda. The Australian's were under so much scrutiny, our fans made life difficult for them. Absolutely humiliated Warner. They mentally disintegrated after. Going forward they'll know South Africa is an away tour, it's not their home country. Any dirty tricks down under will be returned in kind.
The sad part in all of this of course is that cricket is the ultimate loser. Our very own Tristan Holme wrote a great article about the culture of shaming. Give it a read.
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Nicely written and I totally approve how the whole of South Africa united to give The Australian cricket team hell on earth. This also seemed to empower the South African cricketer to play to their best and win the series.
Yes! I will read Tristan's article right away!
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Well, SA fans were pretty savage in the final Test:
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That's pathetic really, poor guy paid the price. No point kicking him while he's down.
Is it stupidity to try and tamper with the ball with around 25 cameras pointing around you?
OF COURSE! BOWL TEMPERING ISN'T NEW ,BUT EVEN AFTER PLAYERS KNOWING HOW TECH HAS CHANGED CRICKET ,IS IT NOT STUPID TO TRY AND TEMPER BALL FOR POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE AT REALLY HIGH CHANCES OF SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES?
Through out our years of watching cricket ,we have seem players do some wierd stuff to temper the bowl.and always i feel atleast this will be an end to it.... But this hasnt beeb working well.
When we saw afridi chewing the ball like he was a kid ,Then we saw faf cleaning the ball with mint like it was diamond ring and later rubbing it on zippers as if he couldn't have shined his zips with anything else
Of course almost every country has thier fair share of ball tempering but EVERYONE KNOWS NOW THAT YOU CANT HIDE ANYTHING FROM CAMERAS NOWDAYS ON FIELD OF CRICKET.
Around 26 cameras cover cricket feed,Yet we keep watching one after another ball temering saga
And here it is most hyped AUSTRALIAN BALL TEMERING SAGA!!!! But, after what example CA has set by punishing smith and warner ,is it too much to ask that this may be the last potential ball tempering scandal we see in next 10 years?
Only time will tell ,but as sad as it is to see australian cricket go through this,one thing is certain ,it has set an example out of ball tempring punishments.
Regardless of people making points about whole AUS team involveved in scandal and CA not really doing gr8 ,i think they have done thier best to ensure REST OF CRICKETERS WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE TRYING TO TEMPER THE BALL FROM NOW ON.and greater punishment will be expected if anyone to do so ,thus overall ball tempering may be farsight,atleast for now THAT IS
OF COURSE! BOWL TEMPERING ISN'T NEW ,BUT EVEN AFTER PLAYERS KNOWING HOW TECH HAS CHANGED CRICKET ,IS IT NOT STUPID TO TRY AND TEMPER BALL FOR POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE AT REALLY HIGH CHANCES OF SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES?
Through out our years of watching cricket ,we have seem players do some wierd stuff to temper the bowl.and always i feel atleast this will be an end to it.... But this hasnt beeb working well.
When we saw afridi chewing the ball like he was a kid ,Then we saw faf cleaning the ball with mint like it was diamond ring and later rubbing it on zippers as if he couldn't have shined his zips with anything else
Of course almost every country has thier fair share of ball tempering but EVERYONE KNOWS NOW THAT YOU CANT HIDE ANYTHING FROM CAMERAS NOWDAYS ON FIELD OF CRICKET.
Around 26 cameras cover cricket feed,Yet we keep watching one after another ball temering saga
And here it is most hyped AUSTRALIAN BALL TEMERING SAGA!!!! But, after what example CA has set by punishing smith and warner ,is it too much to ask that this may be the last potential ball tempering scandal we see in next 10 years?
Only time will tell ,but as sad as it is to see australian cricket go through this,one thing is certain ,it has set an example out of ball tempring punishments.
Regardless of people making points about whole AUS team involveved in scandal and CA not really doing gr8 ,i think they have done thier best to ensure REST OF CRICKETERS WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE TRYING TO TEMPER THE BALL FROM NOW ON.and greater punishment will be expected if anyone to do so ,thus overall ball tempering may be farsight,atleast for now THAT IS
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Disgraced Steve Smith and David Warner should not be allowed to play in England – Darren Gough
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July 5 (Reuters) - Cricket Australia (CA) has denied reports that former Australia captain Steve Smith and batsman David Warner’s suspensions had been relaxed to allow them to participate in domestic first-class cricket ahead of the 2019 World Cup.
CA handed 12-month bans to Smith and Warner while batsman Cameron Bancroft received a nine-month suspension after the trio were found guilty of ball-tampering during the third test against South Africa in March.
“At no stage have we, or are we considering lessening the current sanctions in place for respective players in relation to the incident in South Africa,” a spokesperson from CA told cricket.com.au.
“The CA Code of Conduct does not allow for reversal or lessening of sanctions once players have fully accepted the charges.
“The current articles published are purely speculative.”
Media reports suggested that Smith and Warner could be allowed to play in the Sheffield Shield for the 2018-19 season, but CA’s bans do not end until late March, with the final scheduled from March 28-April 1.
Bancroft should be available for selection for Western Australia for the final four rounds of matches, which start in late February.
The ban does not prevent the trio from playing domestic cricket overseas and Warner and Smith are currently playing in the inaugural Global T20 Canada league.
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL4N1U11WF
CA handed 12-month bans to Smith and Warner while batsman Cameron Bancroft received a nine-month suspension after the trio were found guilty of ball-tampering during the third test against South Africa in March.
“At no stage have we, or are we considering lessening the current sanctions in place for respective players in relation to the incident in South Africa,” a spokesperson from CA told cricket.com.au.
“The CA Code of Conduct does not allow for reversal or lessening of sanctions once players have fully accepted the charges.
“The current articles published are purely speculative.”
Media reports suggested that Smith and Warner could be allowed to play in the Sheffield Shield for the 2018-19 season, but CA’s bans do not end until late March, with the final scheduled from March 28-April 1.
Bancroft should be available for selection for Western Australia for the final four rounds of matches, which start in late February.
The ban does not prevent the trio from playing domestic cricket overseas and Warner and Smith are currently playing in the inaugural Global T20 Canada league.
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL4N1U11WF
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Suspended batsman Bancroft enjoys low-key return to club cricket
A buoyant Cameron Bancroft believes he is now in a positive frame of mind after grappling with the tumultuous ball-tampering scandal.
The 25-year-old played his first cricket match on West Australian soil on Saturday since receiving a nine-month suspension from international and state cricket for his role in the Cape Town sandpaper saga.
Captaining his local club Willetton, Bancroft made just a 13-ball four in his team's crushing nine-wicket one-day victory over Midland-Guildford
But he starred in the field with three sharp catches in the slips, the highlight being a spectacular diving snare to his left.
Unlike banned former leaders Steve Smith and David Warner, Bancroft has kept a low profile and stayed mostly away from cricket since being suspended.
Last month, the former Test opener was in Melbourne completing a yoga teaching training course.
"Learning to detach myself from this guy that was a professional cricketer ... it's who I thought I was as a person," Bancroft told reporters.
"The more I have been able to let that go and understand who I am certainly breaks the anxiety that you put yourself under as a professional sportsman.
"Dealing with those challenges has been difficult, but part of the journey."
Bancroft had to receive an exemption from the West Australian District Cricket Council to be allowed to play in the WA Premier Cricket League while serving his ban. As captain, he has enjoyed mentoring his Willetton teammates.
"It's an opportunity for me to give back. I had a lot of fun out there," he said.
It will be bittersweet for Bancroft when Australia returns to Test cricket against Pakistan in the UAE, but he is taking the development in his stride.
"There have been times I haven't played cricket and sat there and wondered how I got here," he said.
"I can't be there right now but it's a great opportunity for those players."
Bancroft's ban ends on December 29 but he will be back in action for Willetton on Sunday in a 50-over match against Fremantle.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...y-return-to-club-cricket-20181007-p50873.html
A buoyant Cameron Bancroft believes he is now in a positive frame of mind after grappling with the tumultuous ball-tampering scandal.
The 25-year-old played his first cricket match on West Australian soil on Saturday since receiving a nine-month suspension from international and state cricket for his role in the Cape Town sandpaper saga.
Captaining his local club Willetton, Bancroft made just a 13-ball four in his team's crushing nine-wicket one-day victory over Midland-Guildford
But he starred in the field with three sharp catches in the slips, the highlight being a spectacular diving snare to his left.
Unlike banned former leaders Steve Smith and David Warner, Bancroft has kept a low profile and stayed mostly away from cricket since being suspended.
Last month, the former Test opener was in Melbourne completing a yoga teaching training course.
"Learning to detach myself from this guy that was a professional cricketer ... it's who I thought I was as a person," Bancroft told reporters.
"The more I have been able to let that go and understand who I am certainly breaks the anxiety that you put yourself under as a professional sportsman.
"Dealing with those challenges has been difficult, but part of the journey."
Bancroft had to receive an exemption from the West Australian District Cricket Council to be allowed to play in the WA Premier Cricket League while serving his ban. As captain, he has enjoyed mentoring his Willetton teammates.
"It's an opportunity for me to give back. I had a lot of fun out there," he said.
It will be bittersweet for Bancroft when Australia returns to Test cricket against Pakistan in the UAE, but he is taking the development in his stride.
"There have been times I haven't played cricket and sat there and wondered how I got here," he said.
"I can't be there right now but it's a great opportunity for those players."
Bancroft's ban ends on December 29 but he will be back in action for Willetton on Sunday in a 50-over match against Fremantle.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...y-return-to-club-cricket-20181007-p50873.html
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Tensions rise over hearing into ball-tampering bans
Cricket Australia's plan this week to deliberate on reducing the suspensions handed to three players over their involvement in the ball-tampering scandal threatens to inflame relations with the players' association in an already tumultuous period.
As revealed by Fairfax Media, the CA board will convene via a phone hook-up early this week to debate whether the bans of Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft should be cut.
Steve Smith and David Warner have been playing grade cricket while serving their bans.
Steve Smith and David Warner have been playing grade cricket while serving their bans.
This comes after the Australian Cricketers' Association had lodged a submission calling for a rethink in the wake of the Longstaff review, which the ACA says provided new and compelling evidence that CA - and not just the players involved - contributed to the atmosphere that prompted the events of the Cape Town Test in March.
ACA chiefs Al Nicholson and Greg Dyer and their board had planned to meet the CA board to discuss their submission before a call was made.
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This could have been worked into a meeting urged in the Longstaff report to occur within 30 days of the public lodging of the report, in a bid to begin a healing process between the two bodies after an ugly two years featuring a pay war and friction over the culture of the sport. However, that meeting won't be held for another week, with the CA board to convene in the meantime to determine a range of options around the year-long bans of Smith and Warner, and the nine-month ban handed to Bancroft.
It's understood the players' association still hopes to speak at least by phone to CA before the board meets but that appears unlikely. It's believed CA will only call the ACA if it feels it needs clarity or more information on its submission. CA will otherwise inform the ACA, most likely by phone, of its verdict before it is made public.
There are those in cricket circles who see the handling of this issue as a test case for how the two parties plan to rehabilitate their relationship.
The CA directors could opt to reject calls for the bans to be lifted or they could consider at least allowing the three men to return early to first-class cricket and play for their states.
Bancroft is due back on December 29, where he technically could be in line for Test selection, so an immediate easing of that sanction would allow him to have vital game time before Christmas.
There is a view among some CA officials that it would be unfair on Bancroft if all three bans were lifted now, for he has proportionally served more time than Warner and Smith. It's understood one option could be to allow him to return now and Warner and Smith to wait until the Shield resumes in late February to return for NSW.
There is also the matter of the Big Bash League to consider, for Smith and Warner have been banned from the entire tournament.
Unlike Bancroft, Warner and Smith do not have state contracts but, given the opportunity to return, they would be like any player chosen from outside the squad - they would play for match fees and then be upgraded to a contract once they qualified.
While Smith, Warner and Bancroft were consulted about the ACA's submission, the association has led the charge to have the bans cut. The players have insisted they have only been focused on playing grade cricket in their respective states, with Warner and Smith attracting strong crowds.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...into-ball-tampering-bans-20181118-p50grn.html
Cricket Australia's plan this week to deliberate on reducing the suspensions handed to three players over their involvement in the ball-tampering scandal threatens to inflame relations with the players' association in an already tumultuous period.
As revealed by Fairfax Media, the CA board will convene via a phone hook-up early this week to debate whether the bans of Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft should be cut.
Steve Smith and David Warner have been playing grade cricket while serving their bans.
Steve Smith and David Warner have been playing grade cricket while serving their bans.
This comes after the Australian Cricketers' Association had lodged a submission calling for a rethink in the wake of the Longstaff review, which the ACA says provided new and compelling evidence that CA - and not just the players involved - contributed to the atmosphere that prompted the events of the Cape Town Test in March.
ACA chiefs Al Nicholson and Greg Dyer and their board had planned to meet the CA board to discuss their submission before a call was made.
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This could have been worked into a meeting urged in the Longstaff report to occur within 30 days of the public lodging of the report, in a bid to begin a healing process between the two bodies after an ugly two years featuring a pay war and friction over the culture of the sport. However, that meeting won't be held for another week, with the CA board to convene in the meantime to determine a range of options around the year-long bans of Smith and Warner, and the nine-month ban handed to Bancroft.
It's understood the players' association still hopes to speak at least by phone to CA before the board meets but that appears unlikely. It's believed CA will only call the ACA if it feels it needs clarity or more information on its submission. CA will otherwise inform the ACA, most likely by phone, of its verdict before it is made public.
There are those in cricket circles who see the handling of this issue as a test case for how the two parties plan to rehabilitate their relationship.
The CA directors could opt to reject calls for the bans to be lifted or they could consider at least allowing the three men to return early to first-class cricket and play for their states.
Bancroft is due back on December 29, where he technically could be in line for Test selection, so an immediate easing of that sanction would allow him to have vital game time before Christmas.
There is a view among some CA officials that it would be unfair on Bancroft if all three bans were lifted now, for he has proportionally served more time than Warner and Smith. It's understood one option could be to allow him to return now and Warner and Smith to wait until the Shield resumes in late February to return for NSW.
There is also the matter of the Big Bash League to consider, for Smith and Warner have been banned from the entire tournament.
Unlike Bancroft, Warner and Smith do not have state contracts but, given the opportunity to return, they would be like any player chosen from outside the squad - they would play for match fees and then be upgraded to a contract once they qualified.
While Smith, Warner and Bancroft were consulted about the ACA's submission, the association has led the charge to have the bans cut. The players have insisted they have only been focused on playing grade cricket in their respective states, with Warner and Smith attracting strong crowds.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...into-ball-tampering-bans-20181118-p50grn.html
Bans stand for suspended players
Unanimous decision from Cricket Australia Board means bans for Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft will remain.
Steve Smith and David Warner will not return to top-level cricket until the current home summer is completed after the Cricket Australia Board unanimously agreed not to alter penalties imposed over the ball-tampering incident.
CA's Board met yesterday to consider a submission lodged by the Australian Cricketers' Association on behalf of the banned pair and their teammate Cameron Bancroft, which called for the suspension to be immediately lifted and the three players be allowed to resume their careers.
The ACA cited findings in the recently released Ethics Centre review that drew links between CA's corporate culture and the ‘win without counting the cost' mindset of the Australia men's team as "new evidence" that was sufficient to see the penalties set aside.
However, after a telephone hook-up of CA Board members during which the union's submission was considered in detail and discussed at length, it was decided that the sanctions that were imposed by the board, and accepted by all three players, last March should stand.
Interim Chair Earl Eddings said in a statement that the ACA's submission - which the union has confirmed was lodged with the knowledge, but not at the behest of, the three players – placed unnecessary extra scrutiny on the banned trio.
He also announced that no further calls for the penalties to be altered will be considered by the Board.
"The Cricket Australia Board has carefully considered all elements of the ACA submission and has determined that it is not appropriate to make any changes to the sanctions handed down to the three players," Eddings said today.
"Despite the absence of any recommendation regarding the sanctions in the recently released Ethics Centre Review, the Board has deliberated on the ACA's submission at length. "We have reconsidered the sanctions as they apply to each of Steve, David and Cameron in light of the ACA's submission and the Ethics Centre Review and Recommendations.
"The original decision of the Board to sanction the players was determined after rigorous discussion and consideration.
"CA maintains that both the length and nature of the sanctions remain an appropriate response in light of the considerable impact on the reputation of Australian cricket, here and abroad.
"Steve, David and Cameron are working hard to demonstrate their commitment to cricket and have our continued support to ensure their pathway to return is as smooth as possible.
"We believe the ongoing conversation about reducing the sanctions puts undue pressure on the three players – all of whom accepted the sanctions earlier this year - and the Australian men's cricket team.
"As such, the Cricket Australia Board does not intend to consider further calls for amendments to the sanctions.
"Though we recognise that this decision will be disappointing for the ACA, we thank them for their submission.
"Our commitment to continue building a strong relationship between CA and the ACA in the interests of cricket in Australia remains and we look forward to meeting with them shortly to that end."
In calling for the bans - that were imposed under CA's Code of Conduct after the ICC had announced penalties for Smith and Bancroft - to be lifted, the ACA indicated it would be "relentless" in its campaign to have the three players immediately reinstated to all forms of cricket.
Among the 42 recommendations contained in the Ethics Centre Review (of which all but one was deemed by CA to be worthy of consideration or already in train) was that representatives from CA and the ACA meet within a month to help repair the two bodies' fractious relationship.
That meeting is expected to take place in coming weeks.
Bancroft's nine-month suspension will end in late December, meaning he could be selected for the Perth Scorchers' KFC Big Bash League match against the Hobart Hurricanes on December 30.
Smith and Warner's bans were for 12 months respectively, which means they will not be available for selection for Australia, New South Wales or their BBL outfits until March 30.
Which is two days after the JLT Sheffield Shield Final – this Australian summer's final scheduled match – begins.
The three players were charged, and found to be in breach of Article 2.3.5 of the CA Code of Conduct in that their conduct during the third Test against South Africa last March, when sandpaper was taken on to the field with the intent of altering condition of the ball:
• was contrary to the spirit of the game; • was unbecoming of a representative or official; • is or could be harmful to the interests of cricket; • and/or did bring the game of cricket into disrepute
After the Board announced the 12-month bans for Smith and Warner (as well as restrictions on the pair's future eligibility for future team leadership roles) and nine months for Bancroft, the trio were afforded the opportunity to appeal the penalties and put their case to an independent commissioner.
However, they waived their right to engage in that process and agreed to accept the punishments as handed down by the Board.
In the wake of the independent review of CA's culture conducted by the Ethics Centre and released publicly last month, then CA Chairman David Peever has stood down from the Board along with former Australia captain Mark Taylor who was the longest-serving CA Director.
In addition, Executive General Managers of Team Performance (Pat Howard) and Broadcasting, Digital Media and Commercial (Ben Amarfio) have departed CA in recent weeks resulting in an executive restructure under newly installed Chief Executive, Kevin Roberts.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ban...eron-bancroft-sheffield-shield-aca/2018-11-20
Unanimous decision from Cricket Australia Board means bans for Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft will remain.
Steve Smith and David Warner will not return to top-level cricket until the current home summer is completed after the Cricket Australia Board unanimously agreed not to alter penalties imposed over the ball-tampering incident.
CA's Board met yesterday to consider a submission lodged by the Australian Cricketers' Association on behalf of the banned pair and their teammate Cameron Bancroft, which called for the suspension to be immediately lifted and the three players be allowed to resume their careers.
The ACA cited findings in the recently released Ethics Centre review that drew links between CA's corporate culture and the ‘win without counting the cost' mindset of the Australia men's team as "new evidence" that was sufficient to see the penalties set aside.
However, after a telephone hook-up of CA Board members during which the union's submission was considered in detail and discussed at length, it was decided that the sanctions that were imposed by the board, and accepted by all three players, last March should stand.
Interim Chair Earl Eddings said in a statement that the ACA's submission - which the union has confirmed was lodged with the knowledge, but not at the behest of, the three players – placed unnecessary extra scrutiny on the banned trio.
He also announced that no further calls for the penalties to be altered will be considered by the Board.
"The Cricket Australia Board has carefully considered all elements of the ACA submission and has determined that it is not appropriate to make any changes to the sanctions handed down to the three players," Eddings said today.
"Despite the absence of any recommendation regarding the sanctions in the recently released Ethics Centre Review, the Board has deliberated on the ACA's submission at length. "We have reconsidered the sanctions as they apply to each of Steve, David and Cameron in light of the ACA's submission and the Ethics Centre Review and Recommendations.
"The original decision of the Board to sanction the players was determined after rigorous discussion and consideration.
"CA maintains that both the length and nature of the sanctions remain an appropriate response in light of the considerable impact on the reputation of Australian cricket, here and abroad.
"Steve, David and Cameron are working hard to demonstrate their commitment to cricket and have our continued support to ensure their pathway to return is as smooth as possible.
"We believe the ongoing conversation about reducing the sanctions puts undue pressure on the three players – all of whom accepted the sanctions earlier this year - and the Australian men's cricket team.
"As such, the Cricket Australia Board does not intend to consider further calls for amendments to the sanctions.
"Though we recognise that this decision will be disappointing for the ACA, we thank them for their submission.
"Our commitment to continue building a strong relationship between CA and the ACA in the interests of cricket in Australia remains and we look forward to meeting with them shortly to that end."
In calling for the bans - that were imposed under CA's Code of Conduct after the ICC had announced penalties for Smith and Bancroft - to be lifted, the ACA indicated it would be "relentless" in its campaign to have the three players immediately reinstated to all forms of cricket.
Among the 42 recommendations contained in the Ethics Centre Review (of which all but one was deemed by CA to be worthy of consideration or already in train) was that representatives from CA and the ACA meet within a month to help repair the two bodies' fractious relationship.
That meeting is expected to take place in coming weeks.
Bancroft's nine-month suspension will end in late December, meaning he could be selected for the Perth Scorchers' KFC Big Bash League match against the Hobart Hurricanes on December 30.
Smith and Warner's bans were for 12 months respectively, which means they will not be available for selection for Australia, New South Wales or their BBL outfits until March 30.
Which is two days after the JLT Sheffield Shield Final – this Australian summer's final scheduled match – begins.
The three players were charged, and found to be in breach of Article 2.3.5 of the CA Code of Conduct in that their conduct during the third Test against South Africa last March, when sandpaper was taken on to the field with the intent of altering condition of the ball:
• was contrary to the spirit of the game; • was unbecoming of a representative or official; • is or could be harmful to the interests of cricket; • and/or did bring the game of cricket into disrepute
After the Board announced the 12-month bans for Smith and Warner (as well as restrictions on the pair's future eligibility for future team leadership roles) and nine months for Bancroft, the trio were afforded the opportunity to appeal the penalties and put their case to an independent commissioner.
However, they waived their right to engage in that process and agreed to accept the punishments as handed down by the Board.
In the wake of the independent review of CA's culture conducted by the Ethics Centre and released publicly last month, then CA Chairman David Peever has stood down from the Board along with former Australia captain Mark Taylor who was the longest-serving CA Director.
In addition, Executive General Managers of Team Performance (Pat Howard) and Broadcasting, Digital Media and Commercial (Ben Amarfio) have departed CA in recent weeks resulting in an executive restructure under newly installed Chief Executive, Kevin Roberts.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ban...eron-bancroft-sheffield-shield-aca/2018-11-20
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Facing the media for the first time after his tearful apology in March following the ball-tampering/sandpaper scandal in South Africa earlier this year, disgraced former Australian skipper Steve Smith today told reporters in Sydney that he had the opportunity to stop the plan for ball-tampering, but he did not and that was his leadership failure.
“I walked past something and had the opportunity to stop it and I didn’t do it,” Smith said as reported by The Sydney Morning Herald. “That was my leadership failure. There was potential for something to happen and it went on and happened out on the field. I had the opportunity to stop it at that point.”
When asked about what he did when he came to know about the plan, Smith said he didn’t want to know about it and walked away.
Elaborating further, Smith said as he walked in the room at lunch break at Newlands on day three of the third Test against South Africa, it was a potential for something to happen. It went out and happened on the field.
“It’s been documented pretty heavily what went on,” said Smith, who has not spoken about the specifics of the incident before. “In the room I walked past something and had the opportunity to stop it and I didn’t do it and that was my leadership failure. It was a potential for something to happen. It went out and happened on the field. I had the opportunity to stop it rather than say I didn’t want to know anything about it. That was my failure of leadership for that and I have taken responsibility for that.”
Smith also opened up about the turmoil-ridden phase after the scandal rocked Australian cricket.
“I’m going OK,” Smith said at the SCG. ”I’ve had tough days, I’ve had my ups and downs. But I’ve been really fortunate to have a close group of people around me to help me through those difficult times.
“There have been some dark days where I haven’t wanted to get out of bed and things like that. But I’ve had a close group of people around me to help me know that it’s OK. I’ve made a mistake and it was a big mistake and I’m trying to move on from that and improve as a person.”
The 29-year-old,, currently serving a 12-month ban from international cricket, turned out at a nets session against his New South Wales state-mates Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazzlewood and Pat Cummins to prepare them to face Virat Kohli‘s India n the upcoming four-Test series, during which Hazlewood felled him with a short ball.
Yesterday, Smith was barred from playing for Comilla Victorians in the upcoming edition of the Bangladesh Premier League (BPL), on account of a violation of the tournament rules.
The franchise was made aware of the development after other franchises objected to Smith being signed as a replacement player from outside the BPL draft, which breaks the rules of the league.
Smith last week led his club Sutherland to the New South Wales Premier T20 championship in his return to the Sydney Cricket Ground. His ban ends on March 29, 2019.
https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-it-steve-smith-on-ball-tampering-plan-781277
“I walked past something and had the opportunity to stop it and I didn’t do it,” Smith said as reported by The Sydney Morning Herald. “That was my leadership failure. There was potential for something to happen and it went on and happened out on the field. I had the opportunity to stop it at that point.”
When asked about what he did when he came to know about the plan, Smith said he didn’t want to know about it and walked away.
Elaborating further, Smith said as he walked in the room at lunch break at Newlands on day three of the third Test against South Africa, it was a potential for something to happen. It went out and happened on the field.
“It’s been documented pretty heavily what went on,” said Smith, who has not spoken about the specifics of the incident before. “In the room I walked past something and had the opportunity to stop it and I didn’t do it and that was my leadership failure. It was a potential for something to happen. It went out and happened on the field. I had the opportunity to stop it rather than say I didn’t want to know anything about it. That was my failure of leadership for that and I have taken responsibility for that.”
Smith also opened up about the turmoil-ridden phase after the scandal rocked Australian cricket.
“I’m going OK,” Smith said at the SCG. ”I’ve had tough days, I’ve had my ups and downs. But I’ve been really fortunate to have a close group of people around me to help me through those difficult times.
“There have been some dark days where I haven’t wanted to get out of bed and things like that. But I’ve had a close group of people around me to help me know that it’s OK. I’ve made a mistake and it was a big mistake and I’m trying to move on from that and improve as a person.”
The 29-year-old,, currently serving a 12-month ban from international cricket, turned out at a nets session against his New South Wales state-mates Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazzlewood and Pat Cummins to prepare them to face Virat Kohli‘s India n the upcoming four-Test series, during which Hazlewood felled him with a short ball.
Yesterday, Smith was barred from playing for Comilla Victorians in the upcoming edition of the Bangladesh Premier League (BPL), on account of a violation of the tournament rules.
The franchise was made aware of the development after other franchises objected to Smith being signed as a replacement player from outside the BPL draft, which breaks the rules of the league.
Smith last week led his club Sutherland to the New South Wales Premier T20 championship in his return to the Sydney Cricket Ground. His ban ends on March 29, 2019.
https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-it-steve-smith-on-ball-tampering-plan-781277
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