Bangladesh: Still cricket minnows?

[MRSN]

sure, you find solace that our bowling is just about average and better than bangladesh while our batting is below average including bangladesh

Not only our team standards have fallen, our fans are comparing themselves with Bangladesh who are on the rise. Not the best time for a Pak fan.

 

[MRSN]

Sarfy isnt capable, it doesnt have anything to do with intent Hes just a very limited batsman

2nd six of the innings just hit in 42nd over...

Well we have no right to downplay other teams until we have leader like Sarfraz and experienced players like Malik and rising talents like Hasan and Shadab.

BD teams is showing some fight which should be respected especially by Pak fans whose team crumbled in three overs from a winning position against same team with req rate of just 6.

 

[WengerOut]

Bangladesh are currently what India were some years ago. Good batting lineup but rubbish bowling. Certainly not minnows. But still below Pakistan.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Bangladesh are currently what India were some years ago. Good batting lineup but rubbish bowling. Certainly not minnows. But still below Pakistan.

Bowling is much harder to develop than batting. You need to develop bowling culture to produce talent, just have good attitude isn't

 

[Zaz]

Well we have no right to downplay other teams until we have leader like Sarfraz and experienced players like Malik and rising talents like Hasan and Shadab.

BD teams is showing some fight which should be respected especially by Pak fans whose team crumbled in three overs from a winning position.

This isnt a thread about pakistan and its ability or lack of Please report to another thread for that

Its about bangladesh and whether theyve improved to be considered one of the better teams or ate they still minnows

Theyve conceded 380 odd today Although they defo improved in their batting over the last few years their batting INTENT is still minnow level as well as their bowling

Mushfiqur looks like hes playing for a 100 no here

They shouldve gone for it a lot earlier than they have done

 

[Pete Rose]

Not only our team standards have fallen, our fans are comparing themselves with Bangladesh who are on the rise. Not the best time for a Pak fan.

to repeat what i said in the other thread:
Just to give you a comparison of who would be batting right now for Pakistan - based on selection
malik and sarfaraz,
malik and hafeez,
hafeez and sarfaraz
haris and hafeez

None of these combos inspire any faith

 

[MRSN]

This isnt a thread about pakistan and its ability or lack of Please report to another thread for that

Its about bangladesh and whether theyve improved to be considered one of the better teams or ate they still minnows

Theyve conceded 380 odd today Although they defo improved in their batting over the last few years their batting INTENT is still minnow level as well as their bowling

Mushfiqur looks like hes playing for a 100 no here

They shouldve gone for it a lot earlier than they have done

Well no one expected big from BD yet they have beaten WI and SA. They should have won the NZ game too if Mushfiq didn't mess up with Williamson run out. They are showing some good fight here as well even though they are chasing a huge total. BD team was not going to win the wc and no one expected them to either but they have shown some great and consistent improvements over the last few years which is taking them in right direction. This is why I feel they should be respected rather being ridiculed especially from a Pak fans. I don't think Pak fans have any right to ridicule ever emerging BD team until they sort out their own mess.

 

[Kianig89]

Bdesh vs Pakistan will be the litmus test the loser should get the minnow title till next meeting :ramiz

 

[DrSchultz]

Can our captain Sarfraz get into this Bangladeshi team? Please answer truthfully.

 

[Zaz]

Well no one expected big from BD yet they have beaten WI and SA. They should have won the NZ game too if Mushfiq didn't mess up with Williamson run out. They are showing some good fight here as well even though they are chasing a huge total. BD team was not going to win the wc and no one expected them to either but they have shown some great and consistent improvements over the last few years which is taking them in right direction. This is why I feel they should be respected rather being ridiculed especially from a Pak fans. I don't think Pak fans have any right to ridicule ever emerging BD team until they sort out their own mess.

No ones ridiculing them Its a comment on the thread title Yes theyve shown good fight and spirit Arguably punching well above their weight in this tourney

But those words though are for lesser teams arent they You wouldnt use those words for better team would u?

Pakistan for all there woes still came in hoping they can challenge for a win in the tourney

 

[Kianig89]

Can our captain Sarfraz get into this Bangladeshi team? Please answer truthfully.

What about Malik Hafeez imad Hassan why single out Sarfraz

 

[DrSchultz]

Which team in this world cup has a worse wicketkeeper batsman than Sarfraz.

 

[Kianig89]

Which team in this world cup has a worse wicketkeeper batsman than Sarfraz.

Tom Latham to start with

 

[Technics 1210]

Come on yaar, give credit where it is due. I personally have enjoyed watching Bangladesh in this WC, than any other team, in particular their batting. In fact I have a feeling Bangladesh will beat India!

 

[MRSN]

What about Malik Hafeez imad Hassan why single out Sarfraz

Becausr even BD have a better wk batsman than our who keeps hiding behind tailenders and plays a 32 balls 12 innings when req run rate is 8 in most important game

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bangladesh are currently what India were some years ago. Good batting lineup but rubbish bowling. Certainly not minnows. But still below Pakistan.

Agreed, was thinking the same thing about where India were a generation back. BD lack a convincing pace bowler, but their batting is much better quality than Pakistan's, although balance wise I would still prefer Pakistan's squad personally.

I don't know who started this thread but it looks somewhat pathetic now. OP should request it be closed or deleted. Or maybe just hold their hands up and eat their words.

 

[Zaz]

Will mushfiqur get his run a ball 100?

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

Bangladesh's batting is much better now.Their bowling is just awful they just need to find some good Pacers to compete with top teams consistently

 

[razazaidi]

What about Malik Hafeez imad Hassan why single out Sarfraz

Malik has played terribly this tournament, and the last and the one before that no doubt. Ideally he should have retired prior to the world cup. However, he is extremely fit, well respected in other countries, and walks into any t20 league without any issue. Cant say the same about Sarfaraz.

 

[narayanjan]

The current Bangladesh team is a fighting unit [that is all a fan can ask for]. The current Pakistan team are a bunch of amateurs [politely put].

 

[Kianig89]

Malik has played terribly this tournament, and the last and the one before that no doubt. Ideally he should have retired prior to the world cup. However, he is extremely fit, well respected in other countries, and walks into any t20 league without any issue. Cant say the same about Sarfaraz.

Yes he is respected as a player in other countries except Pakistan (performance wise) )

 

[Zaz]

So mushfiqur makes a run a ball 100 no and bangla lose by 50 odd runs But hes praised no end

Babar or the like wouldve been blasted for playing selfishly if this was pakistan...

 

[Ronaldo7]

I'm not saying BD are minnows but some comments on this forum contradict that. People say they're not minnows but start praising them just coz they showed "heart". )
That's minnow mentality.
They lost by 48 runs FGS. If that was Pakistan, they would have been criticised non stop coz they didn't go for the target.

 

[Kianig89]

So mushfiqur makes a run a ball 100 no and bangla lose by 50 odd runs But hes praised no end

Babar or the like wouldve been blasted for playing selfishly if this was pakistan...

Because Pakistan team has history and aura unlike Bdesh who sadly have nothing apart from once in a blue moon victories against topside Pakistan had gun batsman like Javed Zaheer Majid Mohsin Saleem Inzi Moyo unlike the Athar Ali Khans Javed Omer Belim Habib ul Bashar etal

 

[ak619]

So mushfiqur makes a run a ball 100 no and bangla lose by 50 odd runs But hes praised no end

Babar or the like wouldve been blasted for playing selfishly if this was pakistan...

If you're going to compare Bangladesh's best effort with Pakistan's best effort, then you have no choice but to also agree to the term that Pakistan and Bangladesh teams are equal in terms of capability.

Otherwise you cannot compare these two matches and innings.

 

[ak619]

I'm not saying BD are minnows but some comments on this forum contradict that. People say they're not minnows but start praising them just coz they showed "heart". )
That's minnow mentality.
They lost by 48 runs FGS. If that was Pakistan, they would have been criticised non stop coz they didn't go for the target.

I don't think most of the Pakistani fans would be upset if they lost to India after making 300-310 runs in 50 overs.

I think fans are angry because it was a huge defeat. Same with WI game. An absolute no-contest.

 

[Zaz]

I'm not saying BD are minnows but some comments on this forum contradict that. People say they're not minnows but start praising them just coz they showed "heart". )
That's minnow mentality.
They lost by 48 runs FGS. If that was Pakistan, they would have been criticised non stop coz they didn't go for the target.

Exactly Either say they are minnows and pat them on the back but if theyre not then rightly criticise mushfiqur and the like for not going hard enough for the target

Like i said thered be several threads on selfish innings if anybody else played an innings like musbfiqur did today but the reality is bangla are still seen as a lowly ranked team hence the praise for this no show

 

[naqizaidi]

Becausr even BD have a better wk batsman than our who keeps hiding behind tailenders and plays a 32 balls 12 innings when req run rate is 8 in most important game

Agree sarfraz plays bad inning but had this type of hundred scored by Sarfraz you would be labelling him selfish,plays for himself and all sort of rubbish. Sarfraz also score 97 against England. Also score 50 against England and don't say it wasn't great since you won against England was of small margin and the form asif and Malik has shown I am not sure whether we have got to 348.
I got your point you are frustrated but try to comprehend this your top 4 are not performing. In this era if your top 4 are not scoring hundred you aren't winning anything. Rather than blaming sarfraz for everything you should be criticizing imam and hafeez for Australia match as they were set and one of them should have scored 100. The top 4 need to take responsibility and score 100. They were doing it in Uae and even against England but come the Tournment your top 4 are suddenly nowhere to be found. And this is because of Sarfraz cmon get your act together. Blaming everything on Sarfraz won't do.

 

[10sion]

Don't know if we are minnows or not, but bowling wise, we definitely are bowling like minnows. This is just not a good enough bowling line up and the scary thing is, its not like we have left behind some amazing bowlers back home due to poor selection. These are some of the best that we have....just not good enough.

 

[leatherface58]

Very disrespectful thread considering the state of your own team mate.

 

[CricketDon]

Pakistan is the latest minnow in cricket. Bangladesh is officially ahead.

 

[ak619]

I don't agree with it but it's your opinion so I respect that.

Either way there is no denying that Pakistan and Bangladesh are separated by only 2-3 ranking points on the ICC table.

Although even I would put Pakistan one notch above Bangladesh.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Unless we find better bowlers we are minnows, you Pakistanis happy now

 

[Ronaldo7]

Either way there is no denying that Pakistan and Bangladesh are separated by only 2-3 ranking points on the ICC table.

Although even I would put Pakistan one notch above Bangladesh.

Yeah that's true. There's not much between bd and pak now. Pak are only slightly above.

 

[asfandyar]

Unless we find better bowlers we are minnows, you Pakistanis happy now

Pakistan is an acute minnow, whereas Bangladesh is a chronic minnow. Bangla need to win a trophy before they can leave minnow territory for good. Pakistan is already making huge inroads into minnowland and will soon become a chronic minnow (was saved by CT Trophy). Bangladesh overall is a better unit than Pakistan currently.

 

[asfandyar]

Yes. I mentioned in another thread that Pakistan-BD game could go either way. Pakistani bowling is superior while BD batting currently is superior.

Marginally. Will give away 330+ without sweating.

 

[dragon751]

But thats not Bangladeshs fault is it? Every Bangladeshis admits they were given test cricket miles too early. The standard of Bangladesh in 1999 would be the equivalent to Namibia today, they were hopeless but due to politics and a massive fanbasde they were given the holy grail.

In the last 7 or so years they've made good progress, 2007 WC they beat 2 good sides, 2011 they beat England and in 2015 they made the knock outs and very nearly beat one of the finalists. They've made the next step up now and IMO are a good ODI and t20 side. Test they still have some way to go I agree.

As for Ireland, simple fact is Ireland if given all the support we want could potentially after several years be like Zimbabwe from the late 90's, decent side with great work ethic who fight hard. Thats about it.

Bangladehs by virtue of their massive population could well be a force in cricket in a couple decades and could well challenge for world cups. Thats why they were given test cricket anyway, it sure as hell wasnt down to quality.

But, that aside, they're a good limited overs team who are a bit weak mentally, definitely not minnows IMO.

when did bangladesh beat a test team consistently except the one off at home after a decade of test status under tailor made home grounds ?

 

[dragon751]

Either way there is no denying that Pakistan and Bangladesh are separated by only 2-3 ranking points on the ICC table.

Although even I would put Pakistan one notch above Bangladesh.

all aspects takeninto consideration ... pak and bd are on the same level .... thats the neutral point of view

 

[dragon751]

Pakistan is the latest minnow in cricket. Bangladesh is officially ahead.

agreed

 

[Abdullah719]

No.

 

[Mainul]

Can our captain Sarfraz get into this Bangladeshi team? Please answer truthfully.

Everyone knows the answer.

 

[Abdullah]

I guess we will be playing for the best of the rest spot soon

 

[Hasan2K8]

IN short..since 2015

Chased down 322 in 41 overs against Windies, beat SA ranked 3rd in the world, narrowly lost to NZ. QF in WC 15, SF CT 17, only lost one odi series since 2014 at home, Asia cup finals 2016,18, ranked 7 and looking likely to go up.

Yet, some stereotypical people just have this ultra obsession against BD with this perception about BD cricket as if BD cricket is still stuck like in 2003. Narrow minded people stereotype others with the wrong perceptions.

It’s 2019. Bangladesh is a force in ODI, accept it and move on. By hating you won’t be able to degrade them down. BD not top 4 but definitely a force in ODI and with few more good pacers the team can be even better. In Asian conditions the bowling is fine and much suited with the cutters and spinners. BD batting in general is good and can get better.

 

[Ab Fan]

No but falls in third tier team.

Tier-1:-

India
Australia
England
South Africa

Tier-2:-

New Zealand
Pakistan

Tier-3:-

Sri Lanka
West Indies
Bangladesh

 

[Mueez]

No but falls in third tier team.

Tier-1:-

India
Australia
England
South Africa

Tier-2:-

New Zealand
Pakistan

Tier-3:-

Sri Lanka
West Indies
Bangladesh

I agree with this list except from SA being in tier 1 they need to be replaced by NZ.

 

[GrandMaster]

Everyone knows the answer.

Forget about Bangladesh team, Sarfaraz won't even get into Zimbabwe team. The answer is quite simple, he will fail the basic level fitness test.

 

[Ab Fan]

I agree with this list except from SA being in tier 1 they need to be replaced by NZ.

It is in recent times that NZ have turned the table. I am generalizing up things and hence will have to say, it's SA for so many years and no reason as to why they can't get things on line back. NZ will have to do this more often to replace SA. They have been doing well in last one year to replace SA from top tier but need this more often to swap things.

++ sweep_shot!

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Anybody who calls Bangladesh a minnow are either

a) biased
b) trolling
c) ignorant as to what a minnow is.

Potentially all three.

They've won Tests vs the top sides, reached the knock outs twice of ICC events in the last 4 years and have notched up several series wins. Even if most come at home, that still is impressive.

In no game this tournament have they been disgraced. I'm disappointed that today they never really bothered seriously chasing this since they're essentially knocked out now but twice chasing 380 they've batted for big totals, and they could easily have beaten NZ too.

A very solid side. Bowling is a big weakness though.

 

[Usman Chadda]

They're not a minnow, but the fact that England and Australia have both smashed them for 380+ scores tells you quite a bit. They cannot compete with the big guns at this point of time.

Pakistan and West Indies, at their lowest points right now, don't concede 380+ in two big games.

 

[Deewana]

I personally believe that Bangladesh are not minnows anymore but their mentality is still minow level their team never were in the game as they never truly went for the target, instead they settled for a respectable defeat

 

[Deewana]

and why are Pakistani Fans so sensitive on calling Bangla minows like icc have a minow quota and if bang moves out of it Pakistan would be the new minow
neither Pakistan nor Bang is a minow, Pak probably never will be a minow for that matter
Minows at their lowest form don't beat World cup favorites at their home (though we are terrible but still not a minow)
the only minows in this WC are Afg and only team close to being a minow is SL

 

[MMHS]

They're not a minnow, but the fact that England and Australia have both smashed them for 380+ scores tells you quite a bit. They cannot compete with the big guns at this point of time.

Pakistan and West Indies, at their lowest points right now, don't concede 380+ in two big games.

You understand that these sort of logic comes back to hurt you? In today’s game, even club teams won’t get bundled out for 107 in 21 overs, then lose it inside 14 overs .... that to a side that’s 8th-9th in ranking for last 3-4 years. Take out Amir, your attack is comparable to AFGs & Srilankans, and World Cup suddenly becomes big games after boasting batting in that bilateral series against England.

I thought I won’t post in this thread any more - I have changed my stance. Wait for spaces ....

 

[Usman Chadda]

You understand that these sort of logic comes back to hurt you? In today’s game, even club teams won’t get bundled out for 107 in 21 overs, then lose it inside 14 overs .... that to a side that’s 8th-9th in ranking for last 3-4 years. Take out Amir, your attack is comparable to AFGs & Srilankans, and World Cup suddenly becomes big games after boasting batting in that bilateral series against England.

I thought I won’t post in this thread any more - I have changed my stance. Wait for spaces ....

World Cup games are big games, and Bangladesh has been blitzed for two 380+ scores rather easily. That is very poor no matter how much you try to save face. Bangladesh does not have the ability to compete with the top four unfortunately, in their best period. That's a fact.

Not sure what Pakistan's low scores have to do with my post.

 

[Afhan Ali]

Bangladesh is a very good and fast improving cricket team

They will be a huge force in 2023 cricket world cup.

 

[Afhan Ali]

With some huge talented players like Das, Sarkar, Mehdi, Fizz, Saif and real experience player like Shakib and Mushi they will beat all team at home except India and they can also be competitive against SA and NZ away.

They will beat Pak, Sl, Win everywhere

 

[pillionrider]

Bangladesh are currently what India were some years ago. Good batting lineup but rubbish bowling.

This is pretty much it. Just like India with Sachin used to threaten to chase ridiculous totals, Bangladesh too realistically threaten, but often fall short. But the good thing is this eventually leads to a team that will actually start pulling off chases. For India, it was when Dravid was captain and Raina just joined the team. That's when the fear of a chase began to disappear. There were a few before this like the Natwest Final under Ganguly, but players like Uthappa, Raina started to add to the existing stalwarts to make it a more regular event.

Not sure about the BD talent coming through, but the current lot seems like a golden batting generation for BD, and it would be sad if they can't maximize it. Fans of the Fab 5 India often regret our test record which could have been much better.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Maybe in test but in Odi they are quite dangerous team.

 

[Mainul]

Even England got knocked out for 120 vs wi in wi. It was an one off. Get over it. But your bowling has been smashed 350+ many times against different sides. Once vs eng, aus and once for Ind in the warm up match.
Stop getting salty and accept the truth.
Also why do you keep on bringing pak into the discussion??? We're discussing bd not pak.

On topics yes our bowling is pathetic and weaker than Pakistan but our batting is stronger than Pakistan and also our player's psychology is better than that of Pakistan. Pakistani players are very much vulnerable when you put them under any pressure. That's why our ODI team is a nitch better than Pakistan.

 

[Ronaldo7]

On topics yes our bowling is pathetic and weaker than Pakistan but our batting is stronger than Pakistan and also our player's psychology is better than that of Pakistan. Pakistani players are very much vulnerable when you put them under any pressure. That's why our ODI team is a nitch better than Pakistan.

You've lost 3 out of the 6 matches you've played I don't understand where all of THIS is coming from. Currently we are better than you and that's a fact it's not even my opinion.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Let's be realistic. BAN beating anyone above them is:

1. Not considered a possibility
2. Always assumed an upset if they do

Racking up 300+ scores on roads against mediocre bowling means nothing.
Everyone scores 300 now. Even the Afghans do; heck even Scotland scored 300+ vs ENG. You need to have all-round quality for many years and a couple of trophies to be considered among the best.

Shakib is the ONLY world class player that they have.

Basically, they're still minnows.

 

[Mainul]

You've lost 3 out of the 6 matches you've played I don't understand where all of THIS is coming from. Currently we are better than you and that's a fact it's not even my opinion.

One match was washed out. We would have beaten Srilanka easily. That would have made 3 wins. NZ match was close, we could have won it had Mushfiqur didn't make that big mistake. We beat WI chasing 322 , Pakistan would have succumbed to that chase surely. These are real positives for us.

Let's not forget 4-0 in favor of us against you in last 4 encounters . It is more than enough to prove that we are better. Even I dont say that BD is much better, just a notch better.

About bold part, Do you want to look at what others including Pakistanis are thinking about it? Go to you tube , enter the comment sections of highlights of yesterday's match between Bangladesh vs Australia.

 

[Pakhs]

agreed

So the team that beat India and England in the last ICC tournament the two teams who are favorites to win the cup this time and also last time are suddenly minnow now?

No team is going to win the WC every time its held but Pakistan have very recently won the ICC tournament they are definitely not minnows by any definition.

 

[Pakhs]

One match was washed out. We would have beaten Srilanka easily. That would have made 3 wins. NZ match was close, we could have won it had Mushfiqur didn't make that big mistake. We beat WI chasing 322 , Pakistan would have succumbed to that chase surely. These are real positives for us.

Let's not forget 4-0 in favor of us against you in last 4 encounters . It is more than enough to prove that we are better. Even I dont say that BD is much better, just a notch better.

About bold part, Do you want to look at what others including Pakistanis are thinking about it? Go to you tube , enter the comment sections of highlights of yesterday's match between Bangladesh vs Australia.

Bangladesh will not win the WC and they have not won anything in history. Pakistan won the Last ICC tournament and they will also more or less do what Bangladesh are doing in this WC and most Pakistanis will not accept this performance and there will be backlash at home. The fact that you are comparing bad Pakistan team performance to prove how good Bangladesh are shows that you still think Bangladesh is a minnow team.

 

[Ronaldo7]

One match was washed out. We would have beaten Srilanka easily. That would have made 3 wins. NZ match was close, we could have won it had Mushfiqur didn't make that big mistake. We beat WI chasing 322 , Pakistan would have succumbed to that chase surely. These are real positives for us.

Let's not forget 4-0 in favor of us against you in last 4 encounters . It is more than enough to prove that we are better. Even I dont say that BD is much better, just a notch better.

About bold part, Do you want to look at what others including Pakistanis are thinking about it? Go to you tube , enter the comment sections of highlights of yesterday's match between Bangladesh vs Australia.

How many times are you going to mention 4-0??

3 out of those 4 MATCHES WERE IN 2015 FGS. OUR TEAM IS COMPLETELY NEW NOW.
The reason you're getting so much praise (despite losing) is because people still see you as the BD of 1990. You lost the match by 50 runs mate. It's a heavy defeat. We're obviously better than you.

 

[Ronaldo7]

About bold part, Do you want to look at what others including Pakistanis are thinking about it? Go to you tube , enter the comment sections of highlights of yesterday's match between Bangladesh vs Australia.

You know that someone has no evidence to back their claim when they have to use peoples' opinions to back them. People change their opinion after every match. They still see you as a minnow hence are praising you after your 100 run defeat vs eng and 50 run defeat vs aus.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Let's be realistic. BAN beating anyone above them is:

1. Not considered a possibility
2. Always assumed an upset if they do

Racking up 300+ scores on roads against mediocre bowling means nothing.
Everyone scores 300 now. Even the Afghans do; heck even Scotland scored 300+ vs ENG. You need to have all-round quality for many years and a couple of trophies to be considered among the best.

Shakib is the ONLY world class player that they have.

Basically, they're still minnows.

Disagree with both of those points. They are no longer considered an easy game for anyone. Yes the top teams would expect to beat them, but it would not be a big surprise any more if they lose.

Neither Bangladesh or Pakistan are minnows, but neither are they genuine competition for the top teams. Afghanistan is the only minnow in the current world cup, the rest of the teams all have to be taken as a threat.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Disagree with both of those points. They are no longer considered an easy game for anyone. Yes the top teams would expect to beat them, but it would not be a big surprise any more if they lose.

Neither Bangladesh or Pakistan are minnows, but neither are they genuine competition for the top teams. Afghanistan is the only minnow in the current world cup, the rest of the teams all have to be taken as a threat.

In that sense even Afghanistan aren't a minnow as they've given a tough time to SL, WI and BAN recently. Just being solid and holding your own doesn't mean you're not a minnow.
How many tournament finals has Bangladesh contested/won in recent years apart from that tri-series against WI and IRE?

I can't see Bangladesh beating ENG, NZ, AUS and IND in any game anytime soon so personally I'd be very surprised if they win.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

One match was washed out. We would have beaten Srilanka easily. That would have made 3 wins. NZ match was close, we could have won it had Mushfiqur didn't make that big mistake. We beat WI chasing 322 , Pakistan would have succumbed to that chase surely. These are real positives for us.

Let's not forget 4-0 in favor of us against you in last 4 encounters . It is more than enough to prove that we are better. Even I dont say that BD is much better, just a notch better.

About bold part, Do you want to look at what others including Pakistanis are thinking about it? Go to you tube , enter the comment sections of highlights of yesterday's match between Bangladesh vs Australia.

Similarly our match against AUS could've been won had we held onto our chances. Mistakes are what makes or breaks the match. And how can you say Pakistan would've succumbed to chase 323 that too against WI? I'll refresh your memory. Last month, PAK lost by 12 runs chasing 373 against ENG in ENG.

Also if you want to count those 2015 matches against us then let's look at the overall scores as well.
It stands at 31-5 in favour of PAK. Make of that what you will.

 

[SportsWarrior]

You've lost 3 out of the 6 matches you've played I don't understand where all of THIS is coming from. Currently we are better than you and that's a fact it's not even my opinion.

even in this tournament how is Pakistan better than BD? just because they won against England? BD have better run rate, more points at this stage. Even if Pak manages to win against SA, they will still be below BD. BD and Pak match will be a great one as they both are equally matched with BD having an edge in Batting and Pak in bowling

 

[Ronaldo7]

even in this tournament how is Pakistan better than BD? just because they won against England? BD have better run rate, more points at this stage. Even if Pak manages to win against SA, they will still be below BD. BD and Pak match will be a great one as they both are equally matched with BD having an edge in Batting and Pak in bowling

I'm not talking about this WC only I'm looking at it as an overall basis. We're overall better than BD. You'll find that out when we play them.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Bangladesh are a leggie or mystery bowler away from being proper contenders to win next WC. BD Batting core is solid and getting better. Bring back Taskin, groom Ibadat into the ODI format, try new pacers from the domestic. Need at least 3 more pacers to the option list of pacers before the next WC.
Taskin will spearhead the attack, there’s Fizz, Rubel is hit or miss but a good option for middle overs ONLY. So there’s 3 already, but need good few backups.A leg spinner is much needed though.

 

[SportsWarrior]

I'm not talking about this WC only I'm looking at it as an overall basis. We're overall better than BD. You'll find that out when we play them.

historically sure. on current form no. can Pak beat BD? sure. can Pak beat even India? sure.. just beating another team won't make that team a better one. That is only a result on that day. Pak has been dismal in the last six months and BD has been on the rise in the last six months. SO on current form BD is better. Historically Pak is better.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Bangladesh are a leggie or mystery bowler away from being proper contenders to win next WC. BD Batting core is solid and getting better. Bring back Taskin, groom Ibadat into the ODI format, try new pacers from the domestic. Need at least 3 more pacers to the option list of pacers before the next WC.
Taskin will spearhead the attack, there’s Fizz, Rubel is hit or miss but a good option for middle overs ONLY. So there’s 3 already, but need good few backups.A leg spinner is much needed though.

They don't need a mystery bowler. They need a good leggi, and couple of good fast bowlers.

 

[Ronaldo7]

historically sure. on current form no. can Pak beat BD? sure. can Pak beat even India? sure.. just beating another team won't make that team a better one. That is only a result on that day. Pak has been dismal in the last six months and BD has been on the rise in the last six months. SO on current form BD is better. Historically Pak is better.

Getting annihilated 3-0 against nz is dominating?? They've only beaten WI like 5times and a depleted sa side.

 

[Hasan2K8]

They don't need a mystery bowler. They need a good leggi, and couple of good fast bowlers.

A leg spinner is so important. BD only had two leggies as far as I can remember one was Alok Kapali another was called Jubair who got Kohli out with a googly in a test. But really need a decent leggie for the next WC on Subcontinent wickets good spin attack will be more crucial. SL didn’t have the best of Pace attack 2011 but still went final. Just need Taskin and few others to back up Fizz well.

 

[Varun]

Bangladesh at the deep end in the home test against Afghanistan.

 

[sweep_shot]

They are definitely playing like minnows/associates currently.

I really don't know what to say. Brainless performance.

 

[topspin]

As I've said on numerous occasions over the past 6 - 12 months, it's only a matter of time when Afghanistan overtakes Bangladesh in all forms of cricket. This test match (even if they end up losing) and those T20I losses is merely an indicator of how the team will fare and how they are compare to each other in the short to medium term.

The Afghans are already ahead in T20Is and I'm pretty sure they will go on to leap frog Bangladesh in ODIs by 2023 WC. They are also bound to overtake them in tests hosted in Asia within the next few years. By 2025 -2030, they will also be ahead in tests held outside Asia as well, if not sooner.

Bangladesh's future looks bleak and it is due to be compounded further, once Shakib has retired from internationals.

 

[Hyperion66]

In tests? Definitely yes.

Playing a truckload of below average finger spinners at home against a team that is playing their third test match. It can't get more defeatist than this.

Against bigger teams it is justified playing by your strength at home but playing zero pacers against a team that got test status like literally a few months back is outrageous, BD fans should be livid at their team management.

 

[saeed5646]

Match is not finished yet ....

Having said that shakib seems to lost passion playing test cricket .won't be surprised if he retire from test cricket in next 12 month