What's new

Bangladesh v England | 1st Test | Chittagong | Oct 20-24, 2016 | Day 3

Suleiman said:
England has a very long tail which has been the difference between them and SAF, Aus, India and us.

It was a huge challenge overcoming that in our recently concluded test series, making it all the more impressive.

Could very well be the difference here.
Click to expand...

Indian current test tail is deep too. Its the ODI tail which is rubbish.
 
Usman Chadda said:
'Poor test side' is a poor observation in itself. Bangladesh is a barely a test side at the moment. If you cannot dominate with the pitch in your favour and a host of spinners, then there is something seriously wrong with the mindset of every single player in the team.
Click to expand...
It was being said about our ODI side in the past, but not now.

I also think that the problem is in "mindset", not in the skill.Though bowling is not in the best mood without Mustafizur.Very often we can see brain freeze followed by adventurous stroke followed by losing wickets and let opposition in the game again. Latest example Shakib today.

I think BCB should arrange more test matches in a calendar year. Be it Zimbabwe be it West Indies, the more you play test matches the more mindset will develop.

And also more 4 day matches in the domestics.I don't think that other than these Bangladesh is not so far away from being a decent test side.
 
Last edited:
Game is running away.More than 150 target, no chance to win at all for Bangladesh.
 
Executioner said:
That's because Ashwin bats okay in tests bit forgets batting on LoIs. Very curious scenario.

He used to open the batting for his club I heard
Click to expand...

Doesnt forget batting.but hes not a big hitter.Can be used much better

Ashwin was an opener and Rohit was a spinner.Go figure :msd
 
Wow, Bangladesh need to seize the moment. You will not get a better opportunity to get a Test victory against a top Test side than this.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Indian current test tail is deep too. Its the ODI tail which is rubbish.
Click to expand...

England's tail is a bit better than India though. With Ash and Saha our tail does get stronger till 8, but the English tail seems to have a little more oomph in them. The English tail can counter-attack, and score 60-70 runs in no time. We dont have the same luxury.

India is going to have be really careful with the England batting lineup. Our bowlers cant get complacent once we have them 5-6 down. With Bairstow, Stokes and Woakes to follow, they can take a score of 200 to 300 within just more than half a session.
 
Executioner said:
That's because Ashwin bats okay in tests bit forgets batting on LoIs. Very curious scenario.

He used to open the batting for his club I heard
Click to expand...

Can't hit.

When its a low scoring game, he has won us matches with the bat.

Would have been a solid ODI AR for the 90s era. For this era, he is a useless ODI bat. Haha.

But I was talking about tail as in Jaddu, Bhuvi and Mishra all of whom can average 20s in test cricket.
 
Sidilicious said:
England's tail is a bit better than India though. With Ash and Saha our tail does get stronger till 8, but the English tail seems to have a little more oomph in them. The English tail can counter-attack, and score 60-70 runs in no time. We dont have the same luxury.

India is going to have be really careful with the England batting lineup. Our bowlers cant get complacent once we have them 5-6 down. With Bairstow, Stokes and Woakes to follow, they can take a score of 200 to 300 within just more than half a session.
Click to expand...

England tail > Indian tail.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Can't hit.

When its a low scoring game, he has won us matches with the bat.

Would have been a solid ODI AR for the 90s era. For this era, he is a useless ODI bat. Haha.

But I was talking about tail as in Jaddu, Bhuvi and Mishra all of whom can average 20s in test cricket.
Click to expand...

Don't think hes useless in ODIs.More like misused

He should be promoted when we need to consolidate.Has the ability to play on tough tracks under pressure.Can hit once set though not sixes

You can say hes the Rahane of bowlers :))
 
Saurav said:
Don't think hes useless in ODIs.More like misused

He should be promoted when we need to consolidate.Has the ability to play on tough tracks under pressure.Can hit once set though not sixes

You can say hes the Rahane of bowlers :))
Click to expand...

His Inzi level running goes against him. :))

Anyways, we need top 7 explosive bats. Not a bad idea to promote him during tough situations. Lost count of the number of times he would stay on the crease after batting screws up in the tough pitch and get out cos he is forced to hit out. Can be a sidekick to a good bat. Never be the main show in ODIs.
 
Mushfiq screwing our chances with his brainless captaincy.

First Shakib played that wild slog and now this. What will put Juniors learn?
 
In the past Bangladesh had arguably the best tail in the world. These days, even 50 runs is a big bonus
 
England only need 100 more runs to seal it.

Bangladesh need something special to win it from here.
 
Is this Bangladeshs best test performance against a good side since Multan 2003


(don't count Windies wins as they came effectively against Windies B due the player board fight which meant the established players sat out)
 
Slog said:
Is this Bangladeshs best test performance against a good side since Multan 2003


(don't count Windies wins as they came effectively against Windies B due the player board fight which meant the established players sat out)
Click to expand...

Probably. They have become a good side.

If they were even a bit cautious, England would have been staring down the barrel.

Now England on top.
 
This test has shown that Indja can win 4-0. Maybe rain will save England in the other test :))
 
Slog said:
Is this Bangladeshs best test performance against a good side since Multan 2003


(don't count Windies wins as they came effectively against Windies B due the player board fight which meant the established players sat out)
Click to expand...

Bangladesh took a 80 run lead against South Africa last year. Fizz took 4 on his debut. But match got rained off. Could have been very interesting otherwise on a turning pitch.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/817213.html

And even after the Multan Test there have been some good performances from Bangladesh here and there.

Almost beat Australia in 2005; Mashrafe dropped Ponting before he went on to score a match-winning 118*
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/238171.html

Vettori rescued New Zealand in 2008 in a match which all Bangladesh fans thought they would win
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/361758.html

South Africa bowled out for 170 following briliant spells of pace bowling from Shahadat Hossain
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/323947.html
 
Mike Atherton asks Athar about fast bowlers in Bangladesh and Athar mentions everyone except the greatest fast bowler Bangladesh has produced. :facepalm:
 
Slog said:
This test has shown that Indja can win 4-0. Maybe rain will save England in the other test :))
Click to expand...

England lost at Ahmedabad by a good margin as well. But went on to win the 2012 series 2-1.

England always struggle in the first test of any series.
 
Stokes has talen a massive stride forward as a batter here. We know he can smash good fast bowling but now he has got this clutch fifty on a turning wicket.
 
street cricketer said:
England lost at Ahmedabad by a good margin as well. But went on to win the 2012 series 2-1.

England always struggle in the first test of any series.
Click to expand...

They didn't seem to do badly vs NZ and Aus in 2015 or vs SL this year in the first Test of their series.
 
Dios said:
Mike Atherton asks Athar about fast bowlers in Bangladesh and Athar mentions everyone except the greatest fast bowler Bangladesh has produced. :facepalm:
Click to expand...

Whose that? Mortaza or Mustafizur?
 
Epic Double Rich Choclate Batting by Stokes, BD jobberies put to the sword
 
Stokes has stole the match from us literally.

This guy is really competitive, likes to perform under the pressure.

Perhaps that is the difference between us and top sides. We don't have that one single that one particular player that will raise his hands up and say "I want to be in, I will win the match for you"
 
Executioner said:
Stokes has stole the match from us literally.

This guy is really competitive, likes to perform under the pressure.

Perhaps that is the difference between us and top sides. We don't have that one single that one particular player that will raise his hands up and say "I want to be in, I will win the match for you"
Click to expand...

Shakib/ Tamim?
 
street cricketer said:
Talking about away series. It's something most English fans say often.
Click to expand...

Vs Pakistan and SA last year.

I think they're mixed, it's more a misconceived perception rather than reality; they do well sometimes and sometimes they don't.
 
Executioner said:
Stokes has stole the match from us literally.

This guy is really competitive, likes to perform under the pressure.

Perhaps that is the difference between us and top sides. We don't have that one single that one particular player that will raise his hands up and say "I want to be in, I will win the match for you"
Click to expand...

The match went from Bangladesh's grasp as soon as they conceded a lead in the first innings.
 
Bangladeshi bowlers allowed Stokes and Bairstow to get on to the back-foot too easily. Should've fired some more in like that and made them play on the front foot.
 
246 ahead. England are dangerous here because Woakes and Rashid can add forty more.
 
Rabbi's action is naturally suited for reverse swing. Harsh to judge him off this match as the pitch really didn't have much for the pacers. But I think I'd still prefer Fizz, Taskin, Shahid and Al-Amin for Tests.
 
Wanted Bangladesh to bring out the best of Khulna for the test series.

They have now given good practice to the English batsmen on turners.:(
 
Chef should declare here, get BAN in for a few overs with everyone round the bat.
 
Why does Mushfiqur not have any fielders in catching positions when number 8 and 9 are fresh in the crease?
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Shakib/ Tamim?
Click to expand...

Talking tests

Shakib is a genuine all-rounder. He has to work hard on both his disciplines. Thats why its difficult for him to be sharp in any particular discipline. No doubt he is the best allrounder of the modern era(2005 onwards) and our best player. His bowling is world class, batting is edgy but he can score runs under pressure.

Tamim has always been a hit and miss player like Hafeez, though he has improved a lot.

If Shakib and Tamim played for some other team, they would have had more success and they would have a positive mentality. But these 2 have always been on the losing side. And when you are always on the losing side its going to be difficult. These 2 possess immense potential.

Taskin is closest to the description. He has brought us wicket at crucial times, his death bowling has helped us salvage the match in very tight situations. But we need someone like that from the batting perspective.
 
Shakib bowling at least two rubbish deliveries an over. One down the legside and another rank long hop. Every over.
 
That was an epic review by Shakib :shakib

5-fer for him, doesn't still makeup for his retarted shot 2nd ball in the morning
 
15th 5-fer for Shakib. Second against England. He has 5-fers against all Test nations except Australia who he hasn't yet played against.
 
Good to see England also having to work hard vs a minnow.

They're punching above their weight these days.
 
Don't see Bangladesh winning

But I am heartened by the fact that we are going to take 20 wickets in a test match and that we fought for a good amount of time all that after 14 months break.

We are improving even in this format. Our next batch of players Shanto, Litton, Mosaddek, Miraz will be the group that will help us go far. For now it's about laying the foundation.

It's taking us a long time but it has to with our culture and the influx of T20s. But I am positive we will be decent in this format as well. That day ain't far.
 
Looks like boys are going to lose a tight battle for a horrible session. This match was lost probably on day 1, even before the toss - being host, it was a horrible decision to make it a 9 men team on that surface - Mushi & Hathura must explain why 2 pacers instead of Mosandek for one of them.

It's a great learning experience for this young team with few key moments. The harsh truth in Test cricket is you have to keep focus on every minute till the 40th wicket - boys got a bit excited with England at 106/5 & then 61/5 - basically you have won a Mickey Mouse game on that point, but not Test. Not reviewing Moeen was a mistake, but I won't go much on to that; neither on toss - rather the 3 blunders that cost us is team selection, dropping Jhony at 120/5 in 1st innings & finally losing the last pair at 221 on either side of the night.

Still miracles do happen & there is always something for a first time. I'll definitely watch tonight to cheer for the boys - you did make us happy, now there is a chance to make us proud. Whatever, the game must not go to day 5 - go after the Poms & target 294 in 80 overs or bust.
 
Last edited:
MMHS said:
Looks like boys are going to lose a tight battle for a horrible session. This match was lost probably on day 1, even before the toss - being host, it was a horrible decision to make it a 9 men team on that surface - Mushi & Hathura must explain why 2 pacers instead of Mosandek for one of them.

It's a great learning experience for this young team with few key moments. The harsh truth in Test cricket is you have to keep focus on every minute till the 40th wicket - boys got a bit excited with England at 106/5 & then 61/5 - basically you have won a Mickey Mouse game on that point, but not Test. Not reviewing Moeen was a mistake, but I won't go much on to that; neither on toss - rather the 3 blunders that cost us is team selection, dropping Jhony at 120/5 in 1st innings & finally losing the last pair at 221 on either side of the night.

Still miracles do happen & there is always something for a first time. I'll definitely watch tonight to cheer for the boys - you did make us happy, now there is a chance to make us proud. Whatever, the game must not go to day 5 - go after the Poms & target 294 in 80 overs or bust.
Click to expand...

Still we have a chance but don't think we should go all guns blazing. Scoring 294 in a day is difficult. Let's hope we bat well.

Only thing going in our favor is that England spinners don't have venom
 
Stokes is a great player in making


His career will look something like this after 100 matches, 45+ batting and 31-32 bowling average
 
FreakCricket said:
But he throws away, the way he got out is embarrassing.
Click to expand...

A lot of the runs he got today cane from the same shot he got out with today to pretty similar balls. You can't just cut off one of your major scoring shots because it's got a bit of risk to it.
 
Scary how similar English and Indian batting lineups are
 
Stokes proving me wrong here.

Thought he would work only in AUS or SA..
 
Stokes has proved a lot of people wrong. He took us to the cleaners in the first ODI and today he crippled us with both bat and ball.

He is someone who likes the challenge. He enjoys paying tough situations.
 
That WT20 final would always hurt him unless he wins it again for his team.
 
Hey UK PPers - highlights on ITV4 now !

What a lousy job ITV do of promotion, this is the first I've heard of this.
 
Markhor said:
Hey UK PPers - highlights on ITV4 now !

What a lousy job ITV do of promotion, this is the first I've heard of this.
Click to expand...


I heard about it a couple of days ago.

Sky sports coverage is much better watching the verdict right now.
 
My god, what was that dismissal from Shakib second ball of the day.

Absolutely suckered in. Enticed to hit over the top and if you miss it always looks terrible.
 
Markhor said:
My god, what was that dismissal from Shakib second ball of the day.

Absolutely suckered in. Enticed to hit over the top and if you miss it always looks terrible.
Click to expand...

Trust me that was the most shocking thing you would ever see in a cricket match. Everyone in the dressing room, crowd, even the opposition were shocked.

He gave away whatever advantage we had. Also it completely pummelled our confidence. A reason why Pakistan does so well in tests is because of the maturity of seniors like Misbah and YK.

Unfortunately our seniors haven't done any justice. Although to be fair, they themselves never had any mentorship. Worst part is they don't learn from their mistakes.
 
Game is far from over. Target will most likely be something under 300 which is very much gettable.

Bangladesh should have over 150 overs to make this and ideally what they need is one big partnership of over 100. Should they be able to achieve this I see no reason why they cannot go on to win the game.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

The Bald Eagle
Zimbabwe tour of Bangladesh (2025)
2 3
Replies
215
Views
5K
nish_mate
N
The Bald Eagle
  • Locked
England vs India | 1st Test | Headingley | June 20-24 | Pre-Match Discussion
2
Replies
80
Views
2K
Rajdeep
R
The Bald Eagle
Pakistan’s batting struggles persist as they finish Day 2 of the second Test at 76/4 in pursuit of 254 against the West Indies
7 8 9
Replies
668
Views
10K
Mamoon
Mamoon
Cricket Warrior
South Africa end Day 3 at 27/3 in their second innings, needing 148 to win the first Test against Pakistan
10 11 12
Replies
925
Views
17K
kron
K
FearlessRoar
Pakistan (230 & 157) defeat West Indies (137 & 123) by 127 runs in the first Test match to secure a 1-0 lead in the 2-Match series
3 4 5
Replies
336
Views
6K
Human786
H
Back
Top