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Bangladesh vs Pakistan Day 1| Bangladesh batsmen flourish after dismal day in the field for Pakistan

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Bangladesh tour really exposes our TTFs. Hope PCB will take correct decision in future which I highly doubt
 
It's very evident from the way we are batting and the selections we have made that we are playing for a draw. A draw is better than a loss :sachin
 
Junaid is hopeless. Can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have Imran Khan in the team over him. :facepalm:
 
Bangladesh had that young batsman called Shahriar Nafees who scored a century in his debut against australia.... I wonder where did he disappear ??
 
Mamoon said:
Sure, if being better than failed states and most of the African third world countries are concerned makes you feel good then go ahead.
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I am not talking about feeling good. Just refering to your exaggeration of everything without having anything to back it up. There are plenty of things we are even ahead of India, but obviously those things will hurt you a lot.
 
It is baffling that pak hasn't a single bowler who is decent enough to bowl with new ball
 
Mamoon said:
Sure, if being better than failed states and most of the African third world countries are concerned makes you feel good then go ahead.
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Because of corruption. You do not need talent to success. Prime example is China. They only know how to copy.
 
shaaik said:
Bangladesh had that young batsman called Shahriar Nafees who scored a century in his debut against australia.... I wonder where did he disappear ??
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He still plays domestic cricket. Unfortunately he had made a wrong move of joining ICL at the peak of his career and then it went downhill from there. Inconsistency was his downfall in the end to be honest. Still a great talent.
 
Mamoon said:
Sure, if being better than failed states and most of the African third world countries are concerned makes you feel good then go ahead.
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Pakistan has less overall poverty than India or Bangladesh, does this make you feel any better???
 
Shafi said:
Because of corruption. You do not need talent to success. Prime example is China. They only know how to copy.
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Also, BCB is way better and almost corruption free when selecting players, selecting coaches and improving domestic structures. Not like PCB keep selecting TTFs, no criteria to select proper coach, lack of fund .....
 
Shafi said:
Because of corruption. You do not need talent to success. Prime example is China. They only know how to copy.
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Thats a bit harsh on China as they have developments in many area. They can influence a powerful country like the US.I think Saudia Arab is an appropriate example.
 
shehwar said:
He still plays domestic cricket. Unfortunately he had made a wrong move of joining ICL at the peak of his career and then it went downhill from there. Inconsistency was his downfall in the end to be honest. Still a great talent.
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Yeh was such a wonderful prospect and a nice gentleman too. My fav bangladeshi player after Ashraful. And what happened to Aftab Ahmad. I think ICL accounted for his downfall as well.
 
Kakar said:
I am not talking about feeling good. Just refering to your exaggeration of everything without having anything to back it up. There are plenty of things we are even ahead of India, but obviously those things will hurt you a lot.
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The only things India is worse off at is due to its population size. Apart from that, in terms of education, technology and healthcare, things that actually matter and are important, they are years ahead of us and we will never be able to catch them. But yes, let's talk about how there is a lot more poverty there. If we had the same population, we would be officially a failed state now.
 
It's hard for me to watch these sub-standard bowlers not getting blasted out of the ground.
 
Bangladesh used to select players like Zulfi at early stage but not anymore. They invested on young players and that's why they are improving fast.
 
Babar and Junaid honestly need to go :facepalm:

Rahat would be so much better than Junaid. Babar needs to be dropped for Zafar.
 
As expected, the test matches could be boring draws unless one of the teams chokes and gifts away the match.
 
Yes BD have improved but have not improved a lot , this series is actually showing how bad pakistan have become especially in ODIs.
 
Ye senior citizen ko team mein shamil krnay ka idea kis ka tha, and then we ponder what's wrong with this team.
 
Mamoon said:
The only things India is worse off at is due to its population size. Apart from that, in terms of education, technology and healthcare, things that actually matter and are important, they are years ahead of us and we will never be able to catch them. But yes, let's talk about how there is a lot more poverty there. If we had the same population, we would be officially a failed state now.
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Sure. Whatever makes you sleep at night.
 
Mamoon said:
The only things India is worse off at is due to its population size. Apart from that, in terms of education, technology and healthcare, things that actually matter and are important, they are years ahead of us and we will never be able to catch them. But yes, let's talk about how there is a lot more poverty there. If we had the same population, we would be officially a failed state now.
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I have an idea to reduce their population, if india use suicide atom bomb.........

every thing will be fine after this.........according to you

& india will be include in Scandinavians
 
Mamoon said:
Lol, Pakistanis and the word 'talent'.
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Like I said apart from Wasim Akram we never had brilliant players but we still were among top 3. So the word talent is useless. Look at South Africa they are blessed with Donald, Steyn, Pollock.. and India has mediocre fast bowlers. But how many World cup India won.Its matter of applying what you know. Allamah Iqbal was more talented than Rabindranath but Rabindranath was more successful than him.
 
In Bangladesh, people go on about Mominul's Strike Rate. Why that is pertinent in Test Cricket, only Allah knows !

His Test SR is above 55, only Shakib is higher at 60. Tamim, Mushfiq, Mahmudullah all less than him.

Inshallah, if he scores a 100 tomorrow, that will be his 5th in only his 13th test. I shouldn't get ahead of events, I admit.
 
This is just typical bowling and fielding by a side that hasn't played First Class or Test cricket for months.

This is why every Test tour requires at least 2 First Class matches before the First Test.

Rusty and sloppy.
 
junaid.ahmed said:
I have an idea to reduce their population, if india use suicide atom bomb.........

every thing will be fine after this.........according to you

& india will be include in Scandinavians
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They are already doing much better than us in spite of having 1.2 billion people. We should be more worried about ourselves, can't even handle 180 million.
 
That wicket makes it honours even on 1st day as Bangladesh have scored at a snails pace and havent got away from us.
 
Pakistan back in the game. Good to see a non-chucking spinner from Pakistan.
 
Mamoon said:
The only things India is worse off at is due to its population size. Apart from that, in terms of education, technology and healthcare, things that actually matter and are important, they are years ahead of us and we will never be able to catch them. But yes, let's talk about how there is a lot more poverty there. If we had the same population, we would be officially a failed state now.
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Please stop watching too much Bollywood, India is still a 3rd World Country, We have high standards of Education and Health Care too in Main cities... We might be behind them now, but we can catch up if we put our house in Order, from 1960's to 1990's Pakistans GDP per capita was higher than Indias and Currency was stronger.. Its war on terrorism and high levels of corruption which has costed us severely... Even in the Mushys Era Pakistan was progressing, the Zardari era left Pakistan completely bankrupt..
 
Bangladesh banking on batting once to drown Pakistan under scoreboard pressure. This should definitely work against Hafeez as his career is dangling by a thread and he usually brings his true game to pressure situations
 
Mamoon said:
They are already doing much better than us in spite of having 1.2 billion people. We should be more worried about ourselves, can't even handle 180 million.
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But but you said only problems they have are because of population. Poverty rates are higher there so how are they doing bettet than us in that regard?
 
Imtiazk said:
In Bangladesh, people go on about Mominul's Strike Rate. Why that is pertinent in Test Cricket, only Allah knows !

His Test SR is above 55, only Shakib is higher at 60. Tamim, Mushfiq, Mahmudullah all less than him.

Inshallah, if he scores a 100 tomorrow, that will be his 5th in only his 13th test. I shouldn't get ahead of events, I admit.
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sorry sir...!!! :sanga
 
MSaad1237 said:
Pakistan has less overall poverty than India or Bangladesh, does this make you feel any better???
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Lol so now being less poor then Bangladesh makes you feel better? A country that was a part of Pakistan?

Of course, a country with 1.2 billion people will have more poverty than a country with 180 million people. Nothing to be proud of.
 
Honours even at the end of first day. Bad loss of Mominul at the end. But I will take 236 /4 with Shakib, Mushfiq, Shoumya and Shuvogoto still to come. The real tailenders.

Pakistan has the new ball though. Interesting.
 
Kakar said:
But but you said only problems they have are because of population. Poverty rates are higher there so how are they doing bettet than us in that regard?
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Indeed, since these two things are not related at all. I never said they are doing better than us in that regard, my point is that in spite of having so much poverty, they are excelling in fields like education, technology and healthcare compared to us. Way way ahead.
 
Mamoon said:
Lol so now being less poor then Bangladesh makes you feel better? A country that was a part of Pakistan?

Of course, a country with 1.2 billion people will have more poverty than a country with 180 million people. Nothing to be proud of.
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So BD worse than us makes sense because they were once our part. But we being worse than India doesn't even though we were once their part.

Oh. So China must be the poorest country in the world.
 
Mamoon said:
Lol so now being less poor then Bangladesh makes you feel better? A country that was a part of Pakistan?

Of course, a country with 1.2 billion people will have more poverty than a country with 180 million people. Nothing to be proud of.
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Why are you always so negative man?
 
Need to get Wahab on early tomorrow and try and run through banglas middle order mushy in next and hes been in good form in other formats so need to get rid of him early morning!
 
Pakistan have clawed back somewhat with that wicket, but I would still say we are comfortably ahead. Need to bat till tea and with Mushfiq and Shakib in the crease I think we can be hopeful. Not much confidence in Soumya or Hom though, especially the latter.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, because our players are more talented than their Australian and South African counterparts.
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Australia yes, South Africa and England are worse than even Zimbabwe considering so many facilities they have
 
Mamoon said:
Indeed, since these two things are not related at all. I never said they are doing better than us in that regard, my point is that in spite of having so much poverty, they are excelling in fields like education, technology and healthcare compared to us. Way way ahead.
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Excelling in education, health and technology for a selected few. Over 60% earn less than 2% per day. So all that advancement doesn't matter for them. First and foremost thing is the well being of your public.
 
Kakar said:
Excelling in education, health and technology for a selected few. Over 60% earn less than 2% per day. So all that advancement doesn't matter for them. First and foremost thing is the well being of your public.
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Less than 2 dollars*
 
Kakar said:
So BD worse than us makes sense because they were once our part. But we being worse than India doesn't even though we were once their part.

Oh. So China must be the poorest country in the world.
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Wrong example. We were not part of India; India and Pakistan came into existence because United India was partitioned. By the same logic when Sri Lanka was part of India if you go back in history.

However, Bangladesh was ours and we lost it because of our incompetence, and it's nothing to be proud of if we are better off than them in terms of poverty, but let's face it, they will overtake us soon in most aspects. They are on the rise while we are hitting new lows.
 
Kakar said:
Excelling in education, health and technology for a selected few. Over 60% earn less than 2% per day. So all that advancement doesn't matter for them. First and foremost thing is the well being of your public.
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Again, you cannot compare the rates and ratios when there is much a massive gulf in population. If we were to handle 1.2 billion people, we would have been officially recognized as a failed state now. Even if it's for 2% only, they are making far more advancements.

Well being of public? Should we talk about the well being of public in Pakistan?
 
Executioner said:
Pakistan have clawed back somewhat with that wicket, but I would still say we are comfortably ahead. Need to bat till tea and with Mushfiq and Shakib in the crease I think we can be hopeful. Not much confidence in Soumya or Hom though, especially the latter.
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The last wicket ensured the game is in balance. An early wicket tomorrow(or maybe 2) would mean Pakistan would be on top and if Bangladesh bat till Lunch tomorrow without losing one would mean they are on top
 
Mamoon said:
Wrong example. We were not part of India; India and Pakistan came into existence because United India was partitioned. By the same logic when Sri Lanka was part of India if you go back in history.

However, Bangladesh was ours and we lost it because of our incompetence, and it's nothing to be proud of if we are better off than them in terms of poverty, but let's face it, they will overtake us soon in most aspects. They are on the rise while we are hitting new lows.
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You need to smile more. Replacing Van Gough with some cuddly kitties would be a good start.
 
We need to bring stability in our country ASAP, to attract the investors and to improve the economy.. Pakistan has been affected badly by terrorism for over a decade now.. Progress comes with stability.
 
Executioner said:
Pakistan have clawed back somewhat with that wicket, but I would still say we are comfortably ahead. Need to bat till tea and with Mushfiq and Shakib in the crease I think we can be hopeful. Not much confidence in Soumya or Hom though, especially the latter.
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I don't think so u r conformably ahead on this track this is even steven anything under 350 we are ahead in the game..btw soumya is a quality player and cam counter attack don't know much about hom (is he a batsman or all rounder) ..always like mominul was surprised not seeing him play in the WC
 
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