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Bangladesh vs Pakistan: Who would win right now in ODIs and T20Is?

MMHS said:
More than that, A tour exchange was important.

A team tours are a net negative business - hardly any gate/tv/endorsement money but the expenses are quite high. So, every board arranges A/Age level tours on exchange basis - like BCB & CSAF exchanged 7 match OD series, BCB & AFC did for 5 match .... I think, our A team is going to UK this summer (in exchange, they'll come in winter). For PCB, biggest problem is that, they can't offer exchange tours - visitors won't come to PAK, PCB can't bear expenses of lower tier cricket in UAE ...

BCB agreed to send the development squad to PAK ........ PCB'll pay for it at some point, trust me.
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this shows how important it is for us to bring cricket back home.. but unfortuantely, that will take a looong time may be even 6 to 7 years.. the main reason behind pakistan's downfall is because of playing on dead pitches and poor atmosphere of uae..

BCB agreed to send the development squad to PAK ... heard about that but did nt bcb refuses to send the team so pcb cancelled the bd tour scheduled in july 2017?
 
As much as I think Bangladesh have progressed over the years, Pakistan will still beat BD in a 5 match series. If the series is played in BD, it will be a close contest but if played elsewhere, it will be one sided in favour of Pakistan.
 
MoJoJoJo said:
this shows how important it is for us to bring cricket back home.. but unfortuantely, that will take a looong time may be even 6 to 7 years.. the main reason behind pakistan's downfall is because of playing on dead pitches and poor atmosphere of uae..

BCB agreed to send the development squad to PAK ... heard about that but did nt bcb refuses to send the team so pcb cancelled the bd tour scheduled in july 2017?
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Up side down, for the last part - rest is ok straight.
 
Sri Lankan team just abused Bangladeshi team at Dhaka.

Bangladesh the 'Australia of 2000s' version 2 will be destroyed by Afghanistan and Ireland even.
 
BlueDoritos said:
Sri Lankan team just abused Bangladeshi team at Dhaka.

Bangladesh the 'Australia of 2000s' version 2 will be destroyed by Afghanistan and Ireland even.
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A consolation win in NewZealand after being thrashed in all matches is enough to provoke some people to open their mouth wide.....wide :amir3 open.
 
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Mainul said:
A consolation win in NewZealand after being thrashed in all matches is enough to provoke some people to open their mouth wide.....wide :amir3 open.
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Lol at consolation win.Take a look at the T20I rankings then Talk:))

Sri Lankan team just molested Bangladesh in their best format (ODI) , playing at home ground. All of Bangladesh's best players were playing.

A moment of silence for Bangladesh 'Australia of 2000s' version 2
 
BlueDoritos said:
Lol at consolation win.Take a look at the T20I rankings then Talk:))

Sri Lankan team just molested Bangladesh in their best format (ODI) , playing at home ground. All of Bangladesh's best players were playing.

A moment of silence for Bangladesh 'Australia of 2000s' version 2
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be Respectful.Bangladesh is playing good cricket and one match does not make them zero.
 
Let's not degrade bd on 1 match. They played superbly till now in this tri series
 
Mainul said:
A consolation win in NewZealand after being thrashed in all matches is enough to provoke some people to open their mouth wide.....wide :amir3 open.
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Atleast we won one match in NZ

What did BD,Sri Lanka and India win the last time they toured NZ?
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
Atleast we won one match in NZ

What did BD,Sri Lanka and India win the last time they toured NZ?
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Lol is that your benchmark now?

We at least won half of our games against NZ during the last decades or so. Whereas, you've lost like what 12 straight to them in ODI? I lost count.
 
Mainul said:
A consolation win in NewZealand after being thrashed in all matches is enough to provoke some people to open their mouth wide.....wide :amir3 open.
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Did Bangladesh manage even a consolation win in New Zealand?

There's a massive gulf between Pakistan and Bangladesh LOI sides. You got thrashed at home by a Sri Lankan side that just got beaten black and blue by Pakistan.
 
Bangladeshi fans are highly delusional. Every time, they step outside their home, they are truly embarrassed. With their joke of a bowling attack led by a trundler like Mustafiz, they will be smashed by Pakistan everywhere.

Don't be fooled by the NZ series. Pakistan's overseas limited over results are not worse than India's and they managed to win the CT.
Bangladesh on the other hand is still to win anything outside home.

Can't compare a team which has won away series in Australia,SA, and India and lifted two global trophies to a team which is still minnow outside home.

No biased reviews, just facts.
 
Bangladesh's batting is on par with Pakistan or maybe better in ODIs. Their bowling is pathetic.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Did Bangladesh manage even a consolation win in New Zealand?

There's a massive gulf between Pakistan and Bangladesh LOI sides. You got thrashed at home by a Sri Lankan side that just got beaten black and blue by Pakistan.
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I won't take any T20 win seriously in a bilateral.
There is not a massive gulf between two sides.Pakistan is ahead of Bangladesh but not so far.The CT win was like a fluke,not taking any credit away though. Pakistan is still a mediocre ODI team.They are exposed in NZ and will continue to be with Hafeez,Malik,Sarfraz,Shehzad in the team.
 
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Mainul said:
I won't take any T20 win seriously in a bilateral.
There is not a massive gulf between two sides.Pakistan is ahead of Bangladesh but not so far.The CT win was like a fluke,not taking any credit away though. Pakistan is still a mediocre ODI team.They are exposed in NZ and will continue to be with Hafeez,Malik,Sarfraz,Shehzad in the team.
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Pakistan is mediocre side... but a team that is dismissed for 82 and then loses by 10 wickets is world class?
 
Mainul said:
I won't take any T20 win seriously in a bilateral.
There is not a massive gulf between two sides.Pakistan is ahead of Bangladesh but not so far.The CT win was like a fluke,not taking any credit away though. Pakistan is still a mediocre ODI team.They are exposed in NZ and will continue to be with Hafeez,Malik,Sarfraz,Shehzad in the team.
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Bangladesh has achieved nothing for you to belittle the achievements of another country. Sri Lanka mauled you at your home, think about that before mocking others.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Bangladesh has achieved nothing for you to belittle the achievements of another country. Sri Lanka mauled you at your home, think about that before mocking others.
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What if those achievements being belittled aren't all that great?

Bangladesh also has minor achievements. For example, no other team has gone from being an Associate side to beating winning Test matches against 2 former #ranked sides as quickly as Bangladesh (within 18 years).
 
Shutdown Corner said:
What if those achievements being belittled aren't all that great?

Bangladesh also has minor achievements. For example, no other team has gone from being an Associate side to beating winning Test matches against 2 former #ranked sides as quickly as Bangladesh (within 18 years).
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Nice try at trolling lol.
 
I'm a Pakistani fan but I think reaction today is a bit OTT. Pakistan played well today to beat NZ and Bangladesh got smashed at home by Sri Lanka. But you can't say based on one good performance by Pakistan and one bad one by Bangladesh that Pakistan are still miles ahead of Bangladesh.
 
Mainul said:
I won't take any T20 win seriously in a bilateral.
There is not a massive gulf between two sides.Pakistan is ahead of Bangladesh but not so far.The CT win was like a fluke,not taking any credit away though. Pakistan is still a mediocre ODI team.They are exposed in NZ and will continue to be with Hafeez,Malik,Sarfraz,Shehzad in the team.
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Bangladesh getting to the CT semis was a fluke. Our wins versus SA,England ,and India weren't flukes.
 
Both are third tier teams, so it doesn't matter.

Top Tier: England, South Africa, Australia
Second Tier: India, New Zealand
Third Tier: Pakistan, Bangladesh
Fourth Tier: West Indies, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Ireland
 
Ocelot said:
Both are third tier teams, so it doesn't matter.

Top Tier: England, South Africa, Australia
Second Tier: India, New Zealand
Third Tier: Pakistan, Bangladesh
Fourth Tier: West Indies, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Ireland
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I'm sorry Australia is not first tier.
 
Ocelot said:
Both are third tier teams, so it doesn't matter.

Top Tier: England, South Africa, Australia
Second Tier: India, New Zealand
Third Tier: Pakistan, Bangladesh
Fourth Tier: West Indies, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Ireland
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Your list is mostly wrong. Assuming this is a list for ODI since you put BD in 3rd tire (in test, they are 4th tier) and you have included Afg and Ire in it.

Top should not include Australia and neither SA. Instead move up India to it. India's bowling in ODI might not be that strong compared to SA or AUS but batting is more than enough to makes up for it. Second tier should have both SA and AUS in them. 3rd should include NZ/Pak/Bd. the forth tier looks fine.
 
Bangladesh just got man-handled by Sri Lanka at home and they are third-tier while Sri Lanka are fourth-tier? This is not 2015 folks. Bangladesh have definitely improved and we are all happy to see that, but let them achieve something first then hype them to the moon.
 
Coping mechanism these days: we are better than Bangladesh and will beat them in all formats.
 
Mamoon said:
Coping mechanism these days: we are better than Bangladesh and will beat them in all formats.
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Yes yes, we really are so pathetic.

Ahhh the downfall of Pakistan cricket. Hopeless. From Imran Khan to Sarfraz Ahmed :facepalm:
 
backfootpunch said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] your thoughts?
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Sorry, just saw this. False bravado by certain posters aside, a series between these two teams in Asia will be a hot affair.

On traditional Bangladeshi wickets, they should win. They have a better spin attack and our batsman play spin like clowns. Their batsmen had a horror show the other day, but Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiq are better than any of our current batsmen.

On flat Asian wickets and outside Asia, we should win. Our pace attack is much better and their bowlers will not expose our rubbish batting unless the pitch is turning square.

Nonetheless, the gap between the two sides is far less than what is being projected in this thread. Clearly, getting massacred by New Zealand was not enough for some people to open their eyes.
 
Back to back defeats against Sri Lanka for Bangladesh. :ashwin

Are they even worst than Zimbabwe?! :fizz they shouldn't play Pakistan because their Mirpur record might get further embarrassing.
 
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LOL stop with the chest thumping, at least we don’t lose to SL.
 
Demolished by SL of all teams twice on their homeground and we were told that Pakistan cannot compete let alone win in Bangladesh. Either, Bangladeshi fans are highly delusional or SL overnight became the Australia of 2000s.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Demolished by SL of all teams twice on their homeground and we were told that Pakistan cannot compete let alone win in Bangladesh. Either, Bangladeshi fans are highly delusional or SL overnight became the Australia of 2000s.
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Haven't you read lately? Sri Lanka, having lost to freaking Zimbabwe earlier, are now a much improved team than the side that got thrashed 8-0 back in October. Bangladesh is failing because they put themselves under a lot of pressure, thinking they are better than they really are. Also the fact that their bowling attack is non-existent, besides Shakib.
 
Pakistani T20 team is light years ahead of Bangladeshi T20 team.

Afghanistan T20 team is better than Bangladesh T20 team.
 
Mamoon said:
Sorry, just saw this. False bravado by certain posters aside, a series between these two teams in Asia will be a hot affair.

On traditional Bangladeshi wickets, they should win. They have a better spin attack and our batsman play spin like clowns. Their batsmen had a horror show the other day, but Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiq are better than any of our current batsmen.

On flat Asian wickets and outside Asia, we should win. Our pace attack is much better and their bowlers will not expose our rubbish batting unless the pitch is turning square.

Nonetheless, the gap between the two sides is far less than what is being projected in this thread. Clearly, getting massacred by New Zealand was not enough for some people to open their eyes.
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We will beat them in every part of the world
 
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Please close this thread. I just saw 'T20s' in the thread title. Bangladesh will be never be able to beat this Pakistan side in a T20 game. Even in ODIs, Pakistan is a considerably superior team in every department.
 
I'd say realistically Bangladesh needs another 35-40 years to actually come at a level which might be acceptable to be considered a team that is competitive away from home at any formats of the game. Right now they're just minnows and nothing else!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
I'd say realistically Bangladesh needs another 35-40 years to actually come at a level which might be acceptable to be considered a team that is competitive away from home at any formats of the game. Right now they're just minnows and nothing else!
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Well said
 
Usman Chadda said:
Haven't you read lately? Sri Lanka, having lost to freaking Zimbabwe earlier, are now a much improved team than the side that got thrashed 8-0 back in October. Bangladesh is failing because they put themselves under a lot of pressure, thinking they are better than they really are. Also the fact that their bowling attack is non-existent, besides Shakib.
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Bangladesh team is falling because this team is filled with brainless players and lead by a captain who isn't the fit enough to play international cricket.

I've been saying it for quite sometime that Mashrafe needs to go. But his ******* keep saying he did this, he did that bla, bla, bla.


U've said that Bangladesh is falling because their players put themselves under a lot of pressure. I totally disagree with this point. Bangladeshi players r never under the threat of getting kicked out of the team, especially if they r one of the buddies of mashrafe.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
I'd say realistically Bangladesh needs another 35-40 years to actually come at a level which might be acceptable to be considered a team that is competitive away from home at any formats of the game. Right now they're just minnows and nothing else!
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If we keep selecting child beaters to represent our national team, we'll take 30/40 decades to get rid of our minnow tag provided that cricket survives as a game till then.
 
RainMan_ said:
Bangladesh team is falling because this team is filled with brainless players and lead by a captain who isn't the fit enough to play international cricket.

I've been saying it for quite sometime that Mashrafe needs to go. But his ******* keep saying he did this, he did that bla, bla, bla.


U've said that Bangladesh is falling because their players put themselves under a lot of pressure. I totally disagree with this point. Bangladeshi players r never under the threat of getting kicked out of the team, especially if they r one of the buddies of mashrafe.
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Jokes aside you guys are not that bad :)) But nowhere near the bragging levels. I am surprised Mashrafe is still the captain (!!!!!!!)

Do you guys even have a replacement for Tamim? [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
 
Pakpak said:
Jokes aside you guys are not that bad :)) But nowhere near the bragging levels. I am surprised Mashrafe is still the captain (!!!!!!!)

Do you guys even have a replacement for Tamim? [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
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There are few kids in U19 team definitely, but the real problem is bowling. Batting can be fixed somewhat, but need pacers. Team made the CT SF in UK, but that's based on solely batting, and spinners strangling the Kiwis - this won't work most times. At home, or in Asian condition, it's a good unit for ODI & Test as well.
 
Reality check for Bangladeshi posters.....

Maybe if they invited Nepal and hong kong for a tri series they might have some chance of winning a tournament..... the final would be close though between Nepal and Hong Kong....
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Reality check for Bangladeshi posters.....

Maybe if they invited Nepal and hong kong for a tri series they might have some chance of winning a tournament..... the final would be close though between Nepal and Hong Kong....
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Every sane Bangladeshi supporters got that reality check a long ago. Even I was really hopeful about our team. Our boys showed real improvement when they beat teams like pak, Ind and southafrica in back to serieses during 14/15 period.

Sadly we r again going back to our minnow days. Fizz was a good prospect. But even he is totally finished as a bowler. He has failed to add anything else in his bowling armory and he still depends on his 120 km/h slowers to take take wickets. Sadly those slowers aren't working as effectively as they did before because batters have already got accustomed to his slowers.
 
Pakpak said:
Jokes aside you guys are not that bad :)) But nowhere near the bragging levels. I am surprised Mashrafe is still the captain (!!!!!!!)

Do you guys even have a replacement for Tamim? [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
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I Don't think any team has as many brainless players as we have in our team. Most of our players start with a bang but sadly they can't sustain that for a long period because they don't have the intelligence to change their game according to the situation.

Mashrafe is a patriotic guy. It sells well in Bangladesh. He also writes in local newspapers. That's another plus point. I expect him to lead us in 2023 wc too.
 
Mamoon said:
Sorry, just saw this. False bravado by certain posters aside, a series between these two teams in Asia will be a hot affair.

On traditional Bangladeshi wickets, they should win. They have a better spin attack and our batsman play spin like clowns. Their batsmen had a horror show the other day, but Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiq are better than any of our current batsmen.

On flat Asian wickets and outside Asia, we should win. Our pace attack is much better and their bowlers will not expose our rubbish batting unless the pitch is turning square.

Nonetheless, the gap between the two sides is far less than what is being projected in this thread. Clearly, getting massacred by New Zealand was not enough for some people to open their eyes.
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I think Bangladesh has been given a huge reality check with the defeats they had in the recent tri series tournament they hosted - they're nowhere near as good as what most of their fans make them out to be.

They're a better test side than Pakistan but still way behind us in LOIs.
 
backfootpunch said:
I think Bangladesh has been given a huge reality check with the defeats they had in the recent tri series tournament they hosted - they're nowhere near as good as what most of their fans make them out to be.

They're a better test side than Pakistan but still way behind us in LOIs.
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no bd is not better
 
Sri Lanka’s test series victory over Pakistan was a royal fluke. 8 times out of 10 we would beat them in the UAE but due to a massive fluke, both those times happened in September/October.

Pakistan >> Bangladesh
 
saeed5646 said:
no bd is not better
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Pakistan's batting is genuinely minnow standard. Other than Azhar Ali they're all below average international test batsman.

Bangladesh has Tamim, Mominul and Shakib who are all better than our top 7 batters (except Azhar Ali).
 
backfootpunch said:
Pakistan's batting is genuinely minnow standard. Other than Azhar Ali they're all below average international test batsman.

Bangladesh has Tamim, Mominul and Shakib who are all better than our top 7 batters (except Azhar Ali).
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trust me we are not as bad as you guys your fast bowling is zim level azhar ,babar,asad shafiq and
sarfraz will double their batting average against current bd bowling attack
 
backfootpunch said:
I think Bangladesh has been given a huge reality check with the defeats they had in the recent tri series tournament they hosted - they're nowhere near as good as what most of their fans make them out to be.

They're a better test side than Pakistan but still way behind us in LOIs.
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Bangladesh is a weaker side in all 3 formats. Bangladesh has never won a test against Pakistan home or away.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Bangladesh is a weaker side in all 3 formats. Bangladesh has never won a test against Pakistan home or away.
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Bangladesh is clearly the better team in all formats. Bangladesh haven't won a test series against Pakistan because Pakistan always get fluke wins.
 
We are weaker in tests and T20s but not by a big margin. ODIs is where we are probably neck and neck.

In future tests between both nations I would expect a competitive match between Pakistan and Bangladesh but that is because our true weakness- weak pace attack won't get exposed in UAE or BD.
 
Executioner said:
We are weaker in tests and T20s but not by a big margin. ODIs is where we are probably neck and neck.

In future tests between both nations I would expect a competitive match between Pakistan and Bangladesh but that is because our true weakness- weak pace attack won't get exposed in UAE or BD.
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Bangladesh fans don't learn. You just got thrashed by Sri Lanka. Remember what Pakistan did to Sri Lanka recently in LOIs? Sri Lanka and Bangladesh are considerably weaker than Pakistan in LOIs, no matter where we play.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Bangladesh fans don't learn. You just got thrashed by Sri Lanka. Remember what Pakistan did to Sri Lanka recently in LOIs? Sri Lanka and Bangladesh are considerably weaker than Pakistan in LOIs, no matter where we play.
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Lanka played some really good cricket against us in the final. I am sure they could beat a lot of teams the way they performed.
 
Executioner said:
Lanka played some really good cricket against us in the final. I am sure they could beat a lot of teams the way they performed.
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I'm sure they were. However, Pakistan mauled them 8-0 in similar conditions recently. Same team. We are much inferior to the top 5, while being considerably stronger than the bottom 3. Weird place to be in as a team in ODIs. One of the best in the world in T20, no arguments whatsoever.
 
Usman Chadda said:
I'm sure they were. However, Pakistan mauled them 8-0 in similar conditions recently. Same team. We are much inferior to the top 5, while being considerably stronger than the bottom 3. Weird place to be in as a team in ODIs. One of the best in the world in T20, no arguments whatsoever.
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Pakistan should invite us to the UAE. A series between BD and Pakistan will be high profile and exciting

And lanka seems like a different team under Haturi. They are a lot more positive
 
Executioner said:
Pakistan should invite us to the UAE. A series between BD and Pakistan will be high profile and exciting

And lanka seems like a different team under Haturi. They are a lot more positive
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No way. We are finally getting rid of Hafeez and maybe, Malik too in the near future. You want them to become superstars again by bashing mediocre bowlers in UAE? Pakistan should only play the top 5 teams until both these dinosaurs are dropped from the team. Drastic measures.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Bangladesh is a weaker side in all 3 formats. Bangladesh has never won a test against Pakistan home or away.
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That is history, in Asian conditions Bangladesh would beat this Pakistan team comprehensively because Shakib would run through us.
 
saeed5646 said:
trust me we are not as bad as you guys your fast bowling is zim level azhar ,babar,asad shafiq and
sarfraz will double their batting average against current bd bowling attack
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Agreed their pace attack is awful however Shakib would run through this batting line up which is simply inept against spin which is what it really comes down to in SC conditions. Pakistan's pace attack in UAE + Bangladesh isn't good enough to take the pitch out of the equation and cause their batting problems.
 
Executioner said:
Pakistan should invite us to the UAE. A series between BD and Pakistan will be high profile and exciting

And lanka seems like a different team under Haturi. They are a lot more positive
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Lol. Pakistan vs Bangladesh will be high profile series in Bangladesh only. Majority of Pakistani fans outside this website don't care about a series with Bangladesh. :))
 
backfootpunch said:
Agreed their pace attack is awful however Shakib would run through this batting line up which is simply inept against spin which is what it really comes down to in SC conditions. Pakistan's pace attack in UAE + Bangladesh isn't good enough to take the pitch out of the equation and cause their batting problems.
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Shakib won't be able run through Pakistan's batting line up because he will either be on vacation or warming physio's bench.

Also before you talk about Pakistani and Bangladeshi pace attacks, just remember that even Wahab right now is capable of running through Bangladeshi batting line up in UAE, let's not go to Hasan or the others. :)
 
I don't think a captain like Sarfraz would let BD get away with wins here, he's not that sort of guy. He will be quite ruthless in these games.
 
RainMan_ said:
Pakistan has an Excellent bowling lineup. Do u really think that our batters will find it easy to handle bowlers like shadab on a dustbowl? Certainly not. Currently only our opening pair is better than Pakistan because we r lucky to have an Opener like Tamim in our line up.

Other than that Pakistan is ahead of us almost in every department. Have u watched the batting of out lower order batters? They can't even hold the bat bat properly.
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Your top order should handle the pakistani bowling attack on the pitches used in BD while they would most likely struggle. If there's a 5 match series, i think 3-2 in favour of BD. However, outside bD, i think Pakistan would thrash BD if they play to their potential.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Your top order should handle the pakistani bowling attack on the pitches used in BD while they would most likely struggle. If there's a 5 match series, i think 3-2 in favour of BD. However, outside bD, i think Pakistan would thrash BD if they play to their potential.
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Yes, Bangladeshi top order will easily handle the Pakistani bowling. They couldn't handle Chameera, Lakmal and Sri Lankan bowling, bundled out for 80 and 142 some days ago. But they'll surely handle Pakistani bowling confidently.
 
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