"Bangladeshi migrants are ‘termites’, will be removed from voter list" : BJP President Amit Shah

[Abdullah719]

"Bangladeshi migrants are ‘termites’, will be removed from voter list" : BJP President Amit Shah

Referring to illegal migrants from Bangladesh as “termites”, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) president Amit Shah on Saturday said that every one of them will be removed from electoral rolls.

“The infiltrators have eaten the country like termites,” he said at a public rally in Sawai Madhopur’s Gangapur town

Referring to the draft National Register of Citizens (NRC), recently published in Assam, Shah said, “The BJP government brought NRC and prima facie identified nearly 40 lakh illegal immigrants.”

The BJP government will pick out each and every “infiltrator”, he said. “BJP sarkaar ek-ek ghuspaithiye ko chun-chun kar matdata suchi se hatane ka kaam karegi. (BJP government will remove every infiltrator from the voters’ list). ”

He said Congress president Rahul Gandhi is demanding an account of the work done by the BJP but people want him to give an account of what four generations of the Gandhi family have done.

Later, while addressing the ‘Shakti Kendra conference’ of booth-level workers in Kota, Shah said the Congress and other Opposition parties may speak in favour of infiltrators by protesting against NRC but the Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led government cannot compromise on national security since the infiltrators “carry out” blasts and terrorist activities in the country.

He said Rahul Gandhi is daydreaming about coming to power in Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh but the BJP will retain power in these states.

Targeting the “lack of clarity” over leadership in the in Rajasthan Congress, Shah asked if former chief minister Ashok Gehlot or Sachin Pilot would be the party’s chief ministerial face in Rajasthan.

Shah alleged that in its four-and-a-half-year tenure, the Modi government had done more development work than what the Congress did in four-and-a-half generations.

Shah also addressed the Volunteers Meet of IT activists of the party in Kota.

Reacting to Amit Shah’s statement, RajasthanCongress chief Sachin Pilot said, “As far as daydreaming is concerned, BJP has mastered itself in this art and Amit Shah’s statement is based on arrogance on which he operates”.

Pilot also said that the Congress is well placed in Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh, all three of which go to polls later in the year.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...s-amit-shah/story-Z8BAAJiNd5MVa2Kr0bt6iJ.html

 

[proud_pakistani]

Pakistan giving citizenship to Afghanis and Bengalis while Indians calling them termites.

So who is intolerant u tell me?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Very irresponsible statement from bjp chief. even if they want to deport illegal immigrants, they should do it without the cheap statements.

 

[MenInG]

Maybe lost in translation? No one can be this stupid or is this the new Trump style "say it like u see it" being adopted by others

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Very irresponsible statement from bjp chief. even if they want to deport illegal immigrants, they should do it without the cheap statements.

I am with you on this. I feel bad for the illegal immigrants living in India and Delhi/NCR region. They should be asked to leave this country politely.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I am with you on this. I feel bad for the illegal immigrants living in India and Delhi/NCR region. They should be asked to leave this country politely.

Only those who don't have an adhaar card.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Asking illegal migrants to leave India and removing them from the voter list is nothing wrong.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

By calling them termites?

 

[cricketjoshila]

By calling them termites?

They are criminals. Law says they be arrested.

The phrase he use was "Dimak ki tarah kha gaaye" oft used phrase.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

By calling them termites?

Why not? You know his supporters will use that sort of language in private, might as well get it out in the open.

 

[PakLFC]

India can cry all it wants about Bangladeshis. They will continue crossing the border with complete ease. Congress and BJP accuse each other over such things. Truth is no one can stop the Bangladeshi silent invasion I can't see how India will differentiate between their own Bengalis from those crossing over.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India can cry all it wants about Bangladeshis. They will continue crossing the border with complete ease. Congress and BJP accuse each other over such things. Truth is no one can stop the Bangladeshi silent invasion I can't see how India will differentiate between their own Bengalis from those crossing over.

The border fencing is ongoing it will be completed by year end.

How do you think 4mn bangladeshis were identified in Assam?

If i am an Indian or my family was in India before the cut off date there would be some document of there existence from that time. College documents or school documents , Land records,rent record,police record,name in the electoral rolls,municipality or panchayat records,passport,ration card something atleast.

But if you can only show documents that show you are in India after 1971 then where was your existence or your family's existence for 20 plus years?

Its easy to identify the bengali dialect of bangladeshis.

 

[PakLFC]

The border fencing is ongoing it will be completed by year end.

How do you think 4mn bangladeshis were identified in Assam?

If i am an Indian or my family was in India before the cut off date there would be some document of there existence from that time. College documents or school documents , Land records,rent record,police record,name in the electoral rolls,municipality or panchayat records,passport,ration card something atleast.

But if you can only show documents that show you are in India after 1971 then where was your existence or your family's existence for 20 plus years?

Its easy to identify the bengali dialect of bangladeshis.

They will still find a way of getting through! Soon you'll be calling your country fenceistan in a few years time. I don't think you have deported 4 million Banglaeshi people from Assam after all these are the things politics is to be played over by the BJP and Congress. These migrants will argue that documents have been lost or some corrupt official will back them after being given money! You really are naive if you think there are no ways to get around such problems for migrants. Forget it, these people will never return just like the Afghanis in Pak won't! When you throw out migrants from next door they'll keep returning.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They will still find a way of getting through! Soon you'll be calling your country fenceistan in a few years time. I don't think you have deported 4 million Banglaeshi people from Assam after all these are the things politics is to be played over by the BJP and Congress. These migrants will argue that documents have been lost or some corrupt official will back them after being given money! You really are naive if you think there are no ways to get around such problems for migrants. Forget it, these people will never return just like the Afghanis in Pak won't! When you throw out migrants from next door they'll keep returning.

Documents can be lost. But their records from official record keeping would still be there.

If some corrupt official makes the document then again the serial no etc will reveal the time of creation of the document.

The 4mn will lose their voting rights and all other rights except the basic human rights. Many will be deported.

Once it gets into the mind of the immigrants that his life is hell here he will return to his country. And future immigrants will think twice before moving to a hostile country.

 

[PakLFC]

Documents can be lost. But their records from official record keeping would still be there.

If some corrupt official makes the document then again the serial no etc will reveal the time of creation of the document.

The 4mn will lose their voting rights and all other rights except the basic human rights. Many will be deported.

Once it gets into the mind of the immigrants that his life is hell here he will return to his country. And future immigrants will think twice before moving to a hostile country.

Tell me when they have been deported. Keep standing at the border afterwards as these people will be returning the next morning! They are not going anywhere I assure you. It is things like migrants that politics is to be played over otherwise there will be nothing to fight over. If they lived in faraway lands then you could permanently deport them. Can't do that to those people living next door. You may throw some out only to see that thousands more have replaced them

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Documents can be lost. But their records from official record keeping would still be there.

If some corrupt official makes the document then again the serial no etc will reveal the time of creation of the document.

The 4mn will lose their voting rights and all other rights except the basic human rights. Many will be deported.

Once it gets into the mind of the immigrants that his life is hell here he will return to his country. And future immigrants will think twice before moving to a hostile country.

There were several news articles which covered Modi administration's destruction of paper records when he won office.

As for Bangladeshis moving into a hostile country, Bengal was their country far before the immigrants welcomed from Pakistan based purely on their religion regardless of their historical or cultural ties to the region.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There were several news articles which covered Modi administration's destruction of paper records when he won office.

As for Bangladeshis moving into a hostile country, Bengal was their country far before the immigrants welcomed from Pakistan based purely on their religion regardless of their historical or cultural ties to the region.

Bangladeshis made their choice of joining Pakistan clear in 1947. They have nothing to do with India anymore.

Digitisation of records is not destruction of paper records. And that has been happening before modi came to power. Records are kept at various levels.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Tell me when they have been deported. Keep standing at the border afterwards as these people will be returning the next morning! They are not going anywhere I assure you. It is things like migrants that politics is to be played over otherwise there will be nothing to fight over. If they lived in faraway lands then you could permanently deport them. Can't do that to those people living next door. You may throw some out only to see that thousands more have replaced them

Well they will be facing a very hostile enviroment here. Border crossing will be very diffucult post the fencing and they may even be facing shoot orders.

Whoever crosses over will no more be able to get any basic services as govt is making it mandatory to link all basic services to be linked with biometric aadhar.

These are economic migrants. They came here for a easier and better life not for facing a more difficult one.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bangladeshis made their choice of joining Pakistan clear in 1947. They have nothing to do with India anymore.

In which case why did India intervene in the internal matter of East Pakistan vs West Pakistan in 1971?

 

[PakLFC]

Well they will be facing a very hostile enviroment here. Border crossing will be very diffucult post the fencing and they may even be facing shoot orders.

Whoever crosses over will no more be able to get any basic services as govt is making it mandatory to link all basic services to be linked with biometric aadhar.

These are economic migrants. They came here for a easier and better life not for facing a more difficult one.

There are millions of people facing hostility in India already so tell me something new. If so called terrorists can cross the LOC that the Indian army keeps crying about then migrants can do so any fencing as well I assure you. Government can introduce as many new schemes as it wants moreover your government could be changing very soon. Of course many are economic migrants, there are also Rohingya refugee's in India as well.

 

[Itachi]

In which case why did India intervene in the internal matter of East Pakistan vs West Pakistan in 1971?

To tackle the problem of refugee which went out of control in north east as the conflict between east Pakistan and west Pakistan grew intense.

 

[cricketjoshila]

In which case why did India intervene in the internal matter of East Pakistan vs West Pakistan in 1971?

Because Pakistan launched OP Chengiz Khan. Before that Indian Army didnot cross into Bangladesh.

Before that 10mn plus bangladeshis entered india illegally due to civil war. Pakistan should have kept its internal mstter internal only.

 

[imrankhannsu]

What an awful thing to say really

 

[BlackShadow]

It was actually a sound analogy, but as usual, media translation to English made it sound bad.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What an awful thing to say really

If you know anything about Amit Shah, he has said plenty of worse things, but no doubt they also sound bad only because they were translated into English.

 

[Itachi]

What an awful thing to say really

No one has taken more burden than the state of Assam and north east due to illegal migrants. Millions of lives lost during Assam revolution. The whole state went back a decade due to that. People lost precious part of their lifetime.

The analogy is correct.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No one has taken more burden than the state of Assam and north east due to illegal migrants. Millions of lives lost during Assam revolution. The whole state went back a decade due to that. People lost precious part of their lifetime.

The analogy is correct.

Dont forget us from west bengal. First they wanted partition and rioted killed and millions of hindus moved from there to west bengal. Then when they got in a fight with their own country 10mn came here. Even after they get independence they continue to come here.

 

[Saeed]

How can he say this about other human beings? I am extremely disappointed with Indian leadership.

 

[CricketCartoons]

reminds of nazi germany when jews were being dehumanized.

 

[TM Riddle]

Poor choice of words but I agree with the sentiment.

 

[Chrish]

With corrupt government, over-population, pollution and lack of cleanliness, Indian future is bleak anyways.

Illegal immigration can only cause so much damage to something that is already beyond repair.

 

[Yossarian]

If i am an Indian or my family was in India before the cut off date there would be some document of there existence from that time. College documents or school documents , Land records,rent record,police record,name in the electoral rolls,municipality or panchayat records,passport,ration card something atleast.

Documents can be lost. But their records from official record keeping would still be there.

If some corrupt official makes the document then again the serial no etc will reveal the time of creation of the document

One has to give credit where credit is due. Indian bureaucracy is unsurpassed. Historically, Indians have been renowned for their diligency when it comes to bureaucracy and record keeping. Even during British rule, it was this passion for booking amongst sections of Indian society is what kept the Raj going, is what allowed a relatively small number of Britishers to rule over such a large Indian population spread over a vast sub-continent.

So I agree with [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] . There will still be records somewhere or other, regardless of any upheavals, destructions of buildings, floods or natural disasters, riots etc.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Destroying files on Modi's orders: Have parts of Indian history been lost forever?

https://www.firstpost.com/politics/...indian-history-been-lost-forever-1593413.html

There was some concern over motives for destroying rather a large amount of records previously stored and referenced.

 

[imrankhannsu]

No one has taken more burden than the state of Assam and north east due to illegal migrants. Millions of lives lost during Assam revolution. The whole state went back a decade due to that. People lost precious part of their lifetime.

The analogy is correct.

Seems like the guy is not only an awful person when there are as awful people who agree to his logic

 

[InziRules]

I said this with regards to Afghans and Bengalis here, and I'll say it for India. It's ridiculously easy to live off the record in both India and Pakistan.

Tell me how many times a year you're asked for your ID even. The answer will be for things like renewing your car (Which illegal migrants won't have), for property taxes (Which illegal migrants won't pay) and for standardized work (Which illegal migrants won't do). Unless a government enters into every house (And no one has that sort of reach) to find migrants, they can do diddly squat.

All you're going to do is drive them even further underground.

 

[bluevision]

Harsh choice of words. But we don't need those migrants in our already overpopulated country. In many parts they've already changed the demographic, also playing the role of king-makers. And they are provided with voting cards/ration cards etc within a month of infiltration while the locals have to go thru the usual tedious process. No wonder a few certain political parties will be affected if the voting rights of these illegal immigrants are snatched or they get deported.

I will not even get into the kind of nuisance they bring along. BD is growing at a fast rate, sectors like manufacturing is creating ample job opportunities. I fail to understand why these immigrants are hell-bent on staying here!

 

[Eagle_Eye]

No one has taken more burden than the state of Assam and north east due to illegal migrants. Millions of lives lost during Assam revolution. The whole state went back a decade due to that. People lost precious part of their lifetime.

The analogy is correct.

Millions of lives lost? Post partition?

As small states, you are always vulnerable to demographic change in such a large federal union. Especially if you start doing well economically. Unless you control your own borders, the demographic change is almost an inevitability.

Dehumanising people is a very dangerous step, just put yourself in their shoes. I vaguely remember few years ago the open prejudice and violence in major cities of india like bengalore against north eastern people like you.

 

[bluevision]

I vaguely remember few years ago the open prejudice and violence in major cities of india like bengalore against north eastern people like you.

That was a result of widespread rumor on social media. The rumor was circulated purposefully as there were some ethnic clashes going on in Assam between the locals and illegal migrants. Mostly the low-wage workers (e.g.security guards, restaurant workers etc) panicked and started fleeing.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

For the good of everyone i think India should deport Bangladeshis to their own country and seal off the border.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BJP Gen Sec Ram Madhav in BBC Hard talk. Wonder how hard he tries to polish the international image. <a href="https://t.co/vS5ZubVit9">pic.twitter.com/vS5ZubVit9</a></p>— Aysha Renna (@AyshaRenna) <a href="https://twitter.com/AyshaRenna/status/1269875129086996481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[sweep_shot]

Poor comment from Amit Shah.

There are Indians in Bangladesh too. You can see it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indians_in_Bangladesh.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Nelson Mandela International Day, let us remember a legend who fought for social justice, freedom and equality till the last breath of his life. Nelson Mandela's struggles, values and message of peace will continue to be a source of inspiration for people around the globe.</p>— Amit Shah (@AmitShah) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmitShah/status/1284468151439159296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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[Pakpak]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Nelson Mandela International Day, let us remember a legend who fought for social justice, freedom and equality till the last breath of his life. Nelson Mandela's struggles, values and message of peace will continue to be a source of inspiration for people around the globe.</p>— Amit Shah (@AmitShah) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmitShah/status/1284468151439159296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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This has to be a joke

 

[MP2011]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Nelson Mandela International Day, let us remember a legend who fought for social justice, freedom and equality till the last breath of his life. Nelson Mandela's struggles, values and message of peace will continue to be a source of inspiration for people around the globe.</p>— Amit Shah (@AmitShah) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmitShah/status/1284468151439159296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Look at the temerity of this bigot.

 

[sweep_shot]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Nelson Mandela International Day, let us remember a legend who fought for social justice, freedom and equality till the last breath of his life. Nelson Mandela's struggles, values and message of peace will continue to be a source of inspiration for people around the globe.</p>— Amit Shah (@AmitShah) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmitShah/status/1284468151439159296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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LMAO!

Is his account hacked? I can't believe he wrote that.

 

[Rajdeep]

LMAO!

Is his account hacked? I can't believe he wrote that.

Nothing to LMAO really.

Standing up for social justice, freedom and equality is different from tolerating illegal immigrants. People like us who is closely associated with West Bengal knows how many illegal Bangladeshi immigrants lives in Bengal and how Mamta govt helped them to get fake voter ID.

Situation was so desperate, that Bangladeshi artists was campaigning for TMC in Kolkata before 2019 general election.

https://scroll.in/latest/920292/cen...ctor-campaigning-for-tmc-candidate-in-raiganj

Would you allow Indians to vote in Bangladeshi election?

Similarly we cant allow illegal Bangladeshis to vote in Indian election as well.

So the step by Amit Shah to remove illegal Bangladeshis from voting in an Indian election is totally fair.

So there is nothing to LMAO on it.

Pretty sure Nelson Mandella wouldnt either.

 

[sweep_shot]

Nothing to LMAO really.

Standing up for social justice, freedom and equality is different from tolerating illegal immigrants. People like us who is closely associated with West Bengal knows how many illegal Bangladeshi immigrants lives in Bengal and how Mamta govt helped them to get fake voter ID.

Situation was so desperate, that Bangladeshi artists was campaigning for TMC in Kolkata before 2019 general election.

https://scroll.in/latest/920292/cen...ctor-campaigning-for-tmc-candidate-in-raiganj

Would you allow Indians to vote in Bangladeshi election?

Similarly we cant allow illegal Bangladeshis to vote in Indian election as well.

So the step by Amit Shah to remove illegal Bangladeshis from voting in an Indian election is totally fair.

So there is nothing to LMAO on it.

Pretty sure Nelson Mandella wouldnt either.

There are illegal Indians in western countries too. They are on expired visas and stuffs. India should take them also.

 

[sweep_shot]

Nothing to LMAO really.

Standing up for social justice, freedom and equality is different from tolerating illegal immigrants. People like us who is closely associated with West Bengal knows how many illegal Bangladeshi immigrants lives in Bengal and how Mamta govt helped them to get fake voter ID.

Situation was so desperate, that Bangladeshi artists was campaigning for TMC in Kolkata before 2019 general election.

https://scroll.in/latest/920292/cen...ctor-campaigning-for-tmc-candidate-in-raiganj

Would you allow Indians to vote in Bangladeshi election?

Similarly we cant allow illegal Bangladeshis to vote in Indian election as well.

So the step by Amit Shah to remove illegal Bangladeshis from voting in an Indian election is totally fair.

So there is nothing to LMAO on it.

Pretty sure Nelson Mandella wouldnt either.

Also, I believe this "illegal Bangladeshi" thing is just an excuse. BJP and likes of Amit Shah just want to target Muslims. That's why we have seen Delhi riot, Kashmir oppression, mob lynching etc.

Like I said, India sends in plenty of illegals worldwide too. North America has many illegal Indians who steal jobs from local population. So, you shouldn't try to hold a moral high ground in this regard.

 

[Bigboii]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Nelson Mandela International Day, let us remember a legend who fought for social justice, freedom and equality till the last breath of his life. Nelson Mandela's struggles, values and message of peace will continue to be a source of inspiration for people around the globe.</p>— Amit Shah (@AmitShah) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmitShah/status/1284468151439159296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Hope he also take some of that inspiration

 

[sweep_shot]

There are at least 630,000 Indians who are undocumented, a 72 per cent increase since 2010, it said.

The increase in illegal Indian-Americans can be attributed to Indian immigrants overstaying visas, it said.

Nearly 250,000 Indians overstayed their visa in 2016 therefore becoming undocumented, it said.

[MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION]

Check this out. This is only for USA. Canada also has this problem and so do many other western countries.

If you are complaining about Bangladeshi illegals, you should also take back your own illegals. I think number will be easily in millions.

Here are more links for you:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...seek-asylum/articleshow/70822731.cms?from=mdr

https://theprint.in/opinion/not-jus...e-entering-donald-trumps-us-illegally/294202/

https://www.indianeagle.com/travelb...curity-to-deport-illegal-immigrants-from-usa/

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/8149...f-indians-have-risked-for-a-shot-at-life-in-u.

 

[Rajdeep]

[MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION]

Check this out. This is only for USA. Canada also has this problem and so do many other western countries.

If you are complaining about Bangladeshi illegals, you should also take back your own illegals. I think number will be easily in millions.

Here are more links for you:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...seek-asylum/articleshow/70822731.cms?from=mdr

https://theprint.in/opinion/not-jus...e-entering-donald-trumps-us-illegally/294202/

https://www.indianeagle.com/travelb...curity-to-deport-illegal-immigrants-from-usa/

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/8149...f-indians-have-risked-for-a-shot-at-life-in-u.

Why should Amit Shah (Union Home minister of India) care about illegal immigrants in USA/Western countries? If there are Indians living illegally abroad, its upto the govt of that country to take the necessary step. Their country...their law.

But in India...no Bangladeshis (illegal ones) will be allowed to vote. Shah is totally right here.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There are illegal Indians in western countries too. They are on expired visas and stuffs. India should take them also.

Do you know the estimate of illegal bangladeshi immigrants in India?

In states like Bengal and Assam its one of the biggest issues. Now Maharashtra Karnataka Delhi too are reporting these issues.

We dont have problems with BD. The only problem is BD people illegally getting into India as economic migrants.

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION]

Check this out. This is only for USA. Canada also has this problem and so do many other western countries.

If you are complaining about Bangladeshi illegals, you should also take back your own illegals. I think number will be easily in millions.

Here are more links for you:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...seek-asylum/articleshow/70822731.cms?from=mdr

https://theprint.in/opinion/not-jus...e-entering-donald-trumps-us-illegally/294202/

https://www.indianeagle.com/travelb...curity-to-deport-illegal-immigrants-from-usa/

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/8149...f-indians-have-risked-for-a-shot-at-life-in-u.

Let those countries prosecute these people according to their laws. Thats perfectly fair.

If any Indian is caught residing illegally in a foreign country Indians wont be giving excuse that millions of BD are residing in India. You seem to be giving that excuse.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why should Amit Shah (Union Home minister of India) care about illegal immigrants in USA/Western countries? If there are Indians living illegally abroad, its upto the govt of that country to take the necessary step. Their country...their law.

But in India...no Bangladeshis (illegal ones) will be allowed to vote. Shah is totally right here.

The issue is Massive in Bengal.Esp border districts where they are changing the demographics. India should be extremely hostile place for illegal immigrants. So much so that they fear to come here next.

 

[sweep_shot]

Let those countries prosecute these people according to their laws. Thats perfectly fair.

If any Indian is caught residing illegally in a foreign country Indians wont be giving excuse that millions of BD are residing in India. You seem to be giving that excuse.

First of all, I don't think these are all illegals. I think BJP is targeting Muslims all over India and this "illegal Bangladeshi" thing is an excuse.

My point is, illegal migration will likely always happen. There should be a civilized process to handle it. If you show hostility, it may not look good for your country's image.

I am against illegal migrations but I also support a civilized process to handle it.

 

[Babu Bhaiya]

Also, I believe this "illegal Bangladeshi" thing is just an excuse. BJP and likes of Amit Shah just want to target Muslims. That's why we have seen Delhi riot, Kashmir oppression, mob lynching etc.

Like I said, India sends in plenty of illegals worldwide too. North America has many illegal Indians who steal jobs from local population. So, you shouldn't try to hold a moral high ground in this regard.

India doesn't 'send' illegals worldwide. Those Indians you're talking about didn't swim across the sea to illegally enter those countries. North America or wherever these Indians are living on expired visas, those countries should deport them.

The number of illegal bangladeshis living in India is not in hundreds or thousands. Its in millions. In an already overpopulated country like India, we can't have these many people entering and living. Its just not feasible. They'll have to go back.

As far as the reference of termites, I don't think there is anything wrong. These many people have entered in our country, without any documents, using our resources when we have already so many problems with poverty, unemployment etc.

 

[Greenstorm]

I have said it before, this BJP government is a blessing for Pakistan. May Modi reign long.

 

[Abdullah719]

Three from Bangladesh lynched in Assam for ‘cattle smuggling’

Three Bangladeshi nationals alleged to be cattle smugglers were lynched by locals in southern Assam’s Karimganj district around midnight on July 18. Four others from across the border escaped.

Kumar Sanjit Krishna, the district’s Superintendent of Police said the incident happened at Bogrijan Tea Estate under Patharkandi police station near the 134 Battalion of the Border Security Force’s E Company. The area is close to the border with Bangladesh and about 1.5 km from the nearest police outpost.

“On inquiry, it was revealed that the said Bangladeshi nationals crossed the border with a motive to steal cows from the Bogrijan area. They were lynched by people yet to be identified,” he told The Hindu from district headquarters Karimganj on July 19.

A few items recovered from the three included Bangladesh-made biscuits and bread, rope, bag, wires and fence-cutters, Mr. Krishna said.

The police recovered the bodies of the three men and a process was on to hand them over to the Bangladeshi authorities via the Border Security Force.

This was the second such incident in Karimganj district in less than two months.

On June 1, a 43-year-old Bangladeshi national was lynched in Putni Tea Estate situated about 3 km from the India-Bangladesh border. The man was identified as Ranjit Munda and police quoted locals as saying he had come with five others — three Bangladeshis and two Indians — to steal cows from cattle farmers in the estate.

Verification of the man’s identity revealed he was from Sonaroopa Tea Estate on the other side of the fence. The body was later handed over to the Border Guards Bangladesh.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...ationals-lynched-in-assam/article32129223.ece

 

[Rajdeep]

First of all, I don't think these are all illegals. I think BJP is targeting Muslims all over India and this "illegal Bangladeshi" thing is an excuse.

My point is, illegal migration will likely always happen. There should be a civilized process to handle it. If you show hostility, it may not look good for your country's image.

I am against illegal migrations but I also support a civilized process to handle it.

Its not actually. Everyone in India is aware of the issue of Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants in Bengal & Assam. Even all political parties are aware of it but only speaks out when it suits them politically.

When left was in power in Bengal, the same Mamta Banerjee in 2005 walked out of parliament throwing paper on the chair demanding removal of illegal immigrants. The reason she did that because these illegal migrants were vote bank of Jyoti Basu and Mamta was in opposition.

https://youtu.be/Tc-ZthNre4I

Now when she is in power and these are her own vote banks, she wants them to stay back in India. Lol.

You think aam Indians are stupid and cant see the blatant hypocracy here?

There is Bengal election next year and I hope all those illegal voter id's are disbanded before that. But I guess its too late now.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If I call Indian immigrants to the UK as termites, I doubt Indians on this thread would say 'its harsh but true'.

BJP/RSS are lowlife extremists, for any government member to use such terms shows they are also backward fools.

I agree let the BJP win for another two elections, will be fun unless you are a Muslim in India.

 

[Pakpak]

I have said it before, this BJP government is a blessing for Pakistan. May Modi reign long.

BJP has managed to kick alive Kashmir after it was dormant and to be honest for us going nowhere. It has managed to alienate all its neighbours, it has managed to provoke China, it has managed to alienate it's Muslims, it also managed to humiliate itself against us last year.

Modi is the best agent Pakistan could ask for. Absolutely no doubt about it.

 

[Bigboii]

BJP has managed to kick alive Kashmir after it was dormant and to be honest for us going nowhere. It has managed to alienate all its neighbours, it has managed to provoke China, it has managed to alienate it's Muslims, it also managed to humiliate itself against us last year.

Modi is the best agent Pakistan could ask for. Absolutely no doubt about it.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

I have said it before, this BJP government is a blessing for Pakistan. May Modi reign long.

But awful for Muslims of India.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

The issue is Massive in Bengal.Esp border districts where they are changing the demographics. India should be extremely hostile place for illegal immigrants. So much so that they fear to come here next.

Some of those border districts like Mushiadabad had a Muslim majority before Partition.

 

[Itachi]

But awful for Muslims of India.

Removal of illegal immigration is the demand of Assamese people which includes Muslims too who have lived here for centuries. They also took part equally in assam agitation 1985.

Let Indian Muslims decide themselves.

 

[Itachi]

First of all, I don't think these are all illegals. I think BJP is targeting Muslims all over India and this "illegal Bangladeshi" thing is an excuse.

My point is, illegal migration will likely always happen. There should be a civilized process to handle it. If you show hostility, it may not look good for your country's image.

I am against illegal migrations but I also support a civilized process to handle it.

What you think doesn't matter. People have lost lives over this matter in 1980s in assam agitation. You don't have an ounce of idea what generations of people sacrificed for.

At least read about the subject before giving any judgement.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Removal of illegal immigration is the demand of Assamese people which includes Muslims too who have lived here for centuries. They also took part equally in assam agitation 1985.

Let Indian Muslims decide themselves.

Yea that's fine.

My comment was in response to another poster who said BJP was good for Pakistan. The reason that some Pakistanis think Modi is good for Pakistan, is that when BJP leaders openly insult Muslims, it validates the creation of Pakistan, causes Kashmiris to resent Indian rule, and hurts mainstream liberals who want a US (India) Canada (Pakistan) relationship with India. The only people in Pakistan who like Modi are the Far left, who could not win one seat with their views.

 

[Greenstorm]

But awful for Muslims of India.

Yea that's fine.

My comment was in response to another poster who said BJP was good for Pakistan. The reason that some Pakistanis think Modi is good for Pakistan, is that when BJP leaders openly insult Muslims, it validates the creation of Pakistan, causes Kashmiris to resent Indian rule, and hurts mainstream liberals who want a US (India) Canada (Pakistan) relationship with India. The only people in Pakistan who like Modi are the Far left, who could not win one seat with their views.

Indian Muslims were not doing great under previous governments either and they had it coming. A few hundred thousand Muslims anywhere in the world are usually a force to reckon with but strangely, millions of Indian Muslims have not been able to unite and pose resistance to hindutva at any level. It is embarrassing to see them getting overpowered by handful of malnourished hindutva goons. Modi is helping them realize the importance of two nation theory and the need for unity among Muslim brethren to pose a genuine threat to anyone who dares touching them.

Modi is good for Pakistan simply because he is bad for India. It is not about left or right.

 

[Rajdeep]

Indian Muslims were not doing great under previous governments either and they had it coming. A few hundred thousand Muslims anywhere in the world are usually a force to reckon with but strangely, millions of Indian Muslims have not been able to unite and pose resistance to hindutva at any level. It is embarrassing to see them getting overpowered by handful of malnourished hindutva goons. Modi is helping them realize the importance of two nation theory and the need for unity among Muslim brethren to pose a genuine threat to anyone who dares touching them.

Modi is good for Pakistan simply because he is bad for India. It is not about left or right.

Muslims in India has always done great in all spectrum of life. Unlike Pakistan where a minority cant dream of becoming leader of the country, we had our ex president being muslim and ex PM being Sikh. So a Pakistani version of treatment of minorities in India is bit like pot calling kettle thing considering we all know human rights violations there.

Modi is not making anyone realize anything. He is just asking to remove illegal immigrants from voters list. Thousands of Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants crosses the eastern border and takes refuge in Bengal/Assam. Mamta Banerjee gives them voter cards because they are her vote banks. Why would India allow Bangladeshis to vote in indian election? Mamta herself (when she was a part of BJP led NDA) in 2005 demanded in parliament to remove the illegal migrants because they were vote bank of left CPM that time.

It appears to me you have zero knowledge of Indian internal political issues and just playing to the gallery reading the title of the thread. Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants are real problem for India and Amit Shah is totally correct to get them removed from voters list.

 

[Greenstorm]

Muslims in India has always done great in all spectrum of life. Unlike Pakistan where a minority cant dream of becoming leader of the country, we had our ex president being muslim and ex PM being Sikh. So a Pakistani version of treatment of minorities in India is bit like pot calling kettle thing considering we all know human rights violations there.

Modi is not making anyone realize anything. He is just asking to remove illegal immigrants from voters list. Thousands of Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants crosses the eastern border and takes refuge in Bengal/Assam. Mamta Banerjee gives them voter cards because they are her vote banks. Why would India allow Bangladeshis to vote in indian election? Mamta herself (when she was a part of BJP led NDA) in 2005 demanded in parliament to remove the illegal migrants because they were vote bank of left CPM that time.

It appears to me you have zero knowledge of Indian internal political issues and just playing to the gallery reading the title of the thread. Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants are real problem for India and Amit Shah is totally correct to get them removed from voters list.

You are right, I have very little knowledge about Indian politics and neither do I care but I know that Muslims in India have been persecuted in one way or another for decades. In my post, I have not blamed Hindus or Modi for what they are doing to Muslims in India but criticism is towards Indian Muslims who thought they could live as equal citizens, despite being in minority, without sacrificing anything.

 

[Rajdeep]

You are right, I have very little knowledge about Indian politics and neither do I care but I know that Muslims in India have been persecuted in one way or another for decades. In my post, I have not blamed Hindus or Modi for what they are doing to Muslims in India but criticism is towards Indian Muslims who thought they could live as equal citizens, despite being in minority, without sacrificing anything.

Muslim population in India has only grown over the years. If there was persecution, why would there be an upsurge in percentage?

The reason Indian muslims didnt complain over the years because they never needed to. They actually get equal rights in India without any discrimination. In every field and spectrum in India, muslims get equal oppurtunity. Sports, cinema, politics everywhere. In some fields there are even quota for minorities.

Ofcourse there are incidents of cow lynchings and mob violence towards muslims. But even hindus face such similar mob violence (palgarh incident, kashmiri pandits, Asansol riots, Dhulagarh riots etc.) So does Sikhs (1985 genocide) and Christians. North eastern Indians regularly gets harrassed due to their looks etc.

But hooliganism and incidents happening in sylo does not equate to minorities not getting equal rights. Thats a very prismic way of looking at things.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If I call Indian immigrants to the UK as termites, I doubt Indians on this thread would say 'its harsh but true'.

BJP/RSS are lowlife extremists, for any government member to use such terms shows they are also backward fools.

I agree let the BJP win for another two elections, will be fun unless you are a Muslim in India.

There is a difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

Ank Indian immigrants to the UK are one of the most well off community with mid income near the top tier, it will be amusing that a pakistani origin guy will call them termites when pakistani origin community lacks far behind Indians in terms of income.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some of those border districts like Mushiadabad had a Muslim majority before Partition.

Situation reversed post partition due to migration.

 

[sweep_shot]

There is a difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

Ank Indian immigrants to the UK are one of the most well off community with mid income near the top tier, it will be amusing that a pakistani origin guy will call them termites when pakistani origin community lacks far behind Indians in terms of income.

Illegal Indian migrants are also present in west. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indian Muslims were not doing great under previous governments either and they had it coming. A few hundred thousand Muslims anywhere in the world are usually a force to reckon with but strangely, millions of Indian Muslims have not been able to unite and pose resistance to hindutva at any level. It is embarrassing to see them getting overpowered by handful of malnourished hindutva goons. Modi is helping them realize the importance of two nation theory and the need for unity among Muslim brethren to pose a genuine threat to anyone who dares touching them.

Modi is good for Pakistan simply because he is bad for India. It is not about left or right.

No wonder there is rise of muslimophobia in the world. Your posts tells exacty why.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Illegal Indian migrants are also present in west. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Thats the problen of that govt and country. Bangladeshis like you think this is some kind of an excuse.

 

[Mesozoic]

Illegal Indian migrants are also present in west. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Those 'western" countries can deport them or do whatever to them that's within the law. I'm sure no Indian will give lame excuses then like you're giving right now.

 

[sweep_shot]

Thats the problen of that govt and country. Bangladeshis like you think this is some kind of an excuse.

Those 'western" countries can deport them or do whatever to them that's within the law. I'm sure no Indian will give lame excuses then like you're giving right now.

Are you sure?

India started to complain when Trump decided to deport foreign Indian students. Check here: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-new-rules-for-foreign-students-idUSKBN24A202.

 

[Mesozoic]

Are you sure?

India started to complain when Trump decided to deport foreign Indian students. Check here: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-new-rules-for-foreign-students-idUSKBN24A202.

Read the article. Where does it say anything about "illegal" Indian immigrants ?

 

[sweep_shot]

Read the article. Where does it say anything about "illegal" Indian immigrants ?

You were talking about giving excuse. This was an excuse also.

By your logic, Trump can do anything he likes in his country. Then why did India raise concern?