Bangladesh's underrated pace attack

[Slog]

For ODIs in particular they are assembling a very talented and skilled pace bowling attack.
The attack is:

Mashrafe Mortaza - 31 years old and averaged of 31
Rubel Hossain - 25 years old average of 32
Taskin Ahmed - 20 year old with avg of 26
Mustafizur Rehman - 19 yr old with an avg of 9 (ofcourse will go up)

But these are 4 very talented bowlers with Mashrafe a proven performer and a senior statesman of the side and bowling attack.

Rubel had a good WC and seems to be a good option

Taskin I am impressed by and is very young right now so can improve leaps and bound

And Mustafizur has taken intl cricket by storm.

So a very young bowling attack and if they keep on improving they can def go on to become one of the top pace batteries in int'l cricket.

 

[Neferpitou]

Mediocre attack. None of them are talented and will be found out sooner rather than later.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Once Bangla bowlers start playing big cricketing nations, their bowling averages will start to increase.

A tour of Australia NZ and SA will take most of their averages past mid 30's.

 

[wasimjunior]

Mashrafe is a club bowler and his body is cracking now.

Was half decent around 2005... Awful now

 

[sshakir411]

they do seem to produce better quicks than India...although none of their bowlers is still extra ordinary...maybe the new guy but too early to call

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Rubel and Taskin are solid bets for long term.

Mustafiz can go either way in future.

Let them play a few series in different conditions before we can judge.

But definitely they are impressive as of now. They bowl in the right areas which is a big plus.

After Mashrafe took over, he backs their pacers well which has done wonders for them.

 

[Executioner]

I think its not only about how they are individually. Its about how they are lead by the captain.

I remember during the time when Bangladesh played ODIs under Shakib and Mushfiq. Spinners were always a go to option in the first 10 overs and also mid overs. Bringing up the pace bowlers were never exciting. These days, we get excited everytime a pace bowler is introduced.

Now three things:
1) Aggressive fields with slip and the occasional gully
2) A captain who puts full faith in his pacers. Picking 4 pacers tells a lot.
3) Heath Streak - impressive coach

Definitely the most all-round Pace battery in the SC. Taskin and Mustafiz should be drafted in tests

 

[Slog]

3) Heath Streak - impressive coach

yes heath streak is doing a good job and when you hear him speak it just seems he knows what he is talking abt

 

[Buffet]

BD had some other bowler in Test. Just one pace bowler but some one different.

BD can surely use talented pacers in longer format and field more than one pacer.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

I think its not only about how they are individually. Its about how they are lead by the captain.

I remember during the time when Bangladesh played ODIs under Shakib and Mushfiq. Spinners were always a go to option in the first 10 overs and also mid overs. Bringing up the pace bowlers were never exciting. These days, we get excited everytime a pace bowler is introduced.

Now three things:
1) Aggressive fields with slip and the occasional gully
2) A captain who puts full faith in his pacers. Picking 4 pacers tells a lot.
3) Heath Streak - impressive coach

Definitely the most all-round Pace battery in the SC. Taskin and Mustafiz should be drafted in tests

They are currently bowling well and they all seem to be in form. But to call them the best in SC is not right.

Rubel is nothing special. He is an effort bowler and currently bowling well. He is nothing special.

Mustafizur has a lot of talent. He reminds me of Left handed Bhuvaneshwar Kumar. Good swing bowler with a mean slower off cutter.

Mashrafe is ordinary.

Taskin is okay bowler.

There is no one in BD bowling attack that you would say "Lets watch out for this guy" other than Rehman. He is new and once teams analyze and comeback with better strategy, he will be exposed. Which means he needs to up his pace and retain his swing and accuracy.

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar looked unplayable in that Aane Do series. Where is he now? He is just a okay bowler as of 2015.

 

[PCP_1]

Heh @ pace. I didn't see even one BD ball over 131 km/h. Even if we consider the speed gun malfunctioning fiasco B Kumar was comfortay bowling at 132 to 134.

 

[pakistani pride]

BD had some other bowler in Test. Just one pace bowler but some one different.

BD can surely use talented pacers in longer format and field more than one pacer.

They need to win test matches to be taken seriously. Mashrafe and rubel will get spanked in tests.

The other 2 are young lets see how they develop. But if they can win test matches then surely they will be taken seriously.

 

[Executioner]

They are currently bowling well and they all seem to be in form. But to call them the best in SC is not right.

Rubel is nothing special. He is an effort bowler and currently bowling well. He is nothing special.

Mustafizur has a lot of talent. He reminds me of Left handed Bhuvaneshwar Kumar. Good swing bowler with a mean slower off cutter.

Mashrafe is ordinary.

Taskin is okay bowler.

There is no one in BD bowling attack that you would say "Lets watch out for this guy" other than Rehman. He is new and once teams analyze and comeback with better strategy, he will be exposed. Which means he needs to up his pace and retain his swing and accuracy.

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar looked unplayable in that Aane Do series. Where is he now? He is just a okay bowler as of 2015.

I meant all-round, not a world class pace attack. Meaning that we have some decent bowlers for opening(taskin, mashrafe and mustafiz), mid overs(rubel, taskin, mashrafe) and death(mustafiz and Rubel). Rubel bowls quick and reverse swing, Rehman and his cutters, can also swing the ball, Mashrafe is good at taking the pace of the ball, taskin is quick and get bounce.

 

[Hawkeye]

No one underrates it. There can be a case of overrate though, by some.

First, they don't have a Test class pace attack.

For ODIs, how skillful are the bowlers to not only bowl at 140kph consistently and also have variations for different conditions? Not that skilled and experienced.

Taskin was bowling early 130s, could have gone to 135kph at max. What was the pace of Rubel? Can he bowl 140 and 140+? And land the ball in the same area plus also have variations?

They are good in their home conditions so far. No need to hype them up.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

I meant all-round, not a world class pace attack. Meaning that we have some decent bowlers for opening(taskin, mashrafe and mustafiz), mid overs(rubel, taskin, mashrafe) and death(mustafiz and Rubel). Rubel bowls quick and reverse swing, Rehman and his cutters, can also swing the ball, Mashrafe is good at taking the pace of the ball, taskin is quick and get bounce.

They are still not the best in Subcontinent.

I rate Pak pace bowlers still the best.

Wahab/Rahat Ali are the best in SC right now along with Shami from India.
I would be tempted to put Rehman with the above pacers basing his performaces in the 2 ODI's. But Rehman needs to keep up the form and success for at least another 2 serie's for the world to take note of him. The series against SA will be a good test.

Pacers like Yadav, Sohail Khan, Taskin, Rubel blow hot and cold.

 

[Hawkeye]

It is the best attack BD has managed to assemble in their history, that I can say though.

 

[Stallion__]

Taskin is the real deal. He possess the quality to achieve consistent success at this level.

Rubel has improved a lot recently, still don't see him averaging much less than he currently do.

Mashrafe will go downhill now, he has past his best and don't possess the ideal fitness levels either.

Mustafiz is a tricky one. After first match, I thought he only have deceptive slower ball and will found out later on in his career. But in second match, he has shown that he can bowl his normal seam-up (with good wrist position having upright seam) at 130, and he is just 19. Surely potential is there, he just needs to keep improving. The problem with countries like Bangladesh and India which don't have fast bowling culture, is that when a young pacer appears at international level, he looks like he can make it big. But they are not handled and mentored properly, and they stop developing after certain stage. So despite showing early promise, they still fade away. Hopefully Mustafiz don't go that way.

 

[Slog]

It is the best attack BD has managed to assemble in their history, that I can say though.

Taskin and Mustafizur are only 20 and can improve a lot

 

[Executioner]

I think these guys will stay for a while.

The difference between now and pasts is the way Mashrafe deals with the pacers. He is a pacer so he knows how to handle one. Mushfiq can destroy the career of these cricketers easily. Also BCB is far more professional these days. Our bench strength is improving but i still feel that we need to improve our bowling in tests. But flat wicket, poor team selection, and mushfiq the captain has hindered the chances for Pacers excelling in tests

 

[Imran Hasan]

No one underrates it. There can be a case of overrate though, by some.

First, they don't have a Test class pace attack.

For ODIs, how skillful are the bowlers to not only bowl at 140kph consistently and also have variations for different conditions? Not that skilled and experienced.

Taskin was bowling early 130s, could have gone to 135kph at max. What was the pace of Rubel? Can he bowl 140 and 140+? And land the ball in the same area plus also have variations?

They are good in their home conditions so far. No need to hype them up.

Both Rubel & Taskin are regularly clocking 140 to 145 km/h . I guess you should have read about them more before commenting.

 

[BDwarriors]

Mashrafe is finish...taskin is only good bowler. BD never had good pace bowler. i enjoyed only when shanto used to bowling in 1997.

 

[proud_pakistani]

This attack is good for ODIs but will struggle in test cricket. Even in ODIs soon people will find out Mustahfiz. He will have to add a little more than cutters to his armory. I wont count Mashrafe too much. He is at the end of his career and was always mediocre and is probably a weak link in their attack. Rubel blows hot and cold. Not a huge fan of his, but he can bowl well at the death at times. Taskin though is a very good bowler and is the key to the future fast bowling of Bangladesh. If they manage him well, keep him fit he can serve Bangladesh very well.

 

[Dios]

Mohammad Shahid (a fine new-ball bowler) and Al-Amin Hossain (excellent at the death) can't get into the squad at the moment that's how good Bangladesh's pace attack is.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Taskin, Rubel , and another pace i think his name is Mohammad Shahid, they are real deals.
and inclusion of Mustafizur makes it more good. and i hope they can perform good in foreign conditions.

 

[PCP_1]

Yes very good pace attack. Especially Mustafizur, he could be the next best bowler to come out of Asia apart from his idol although it would be advisable not to emulate his off field activities.

 

[Executioner]

We have a good pace attack since we have the luxury of a fast-bowling captain Mashrafe.

I want a quality bowling attack in tests. Imagine Taskin and Mustafizur Rahman in tests! We would be winning tests like we do in ODIs.

 

[MRSN]

It's tough to decide who produces more mediocre trundlers..India or Bangladesh??

 

[Mainul]

BD had some other bowler in Test. Just one pace bowler but some one different.

BD can surely use talented pacers in longer format and field more than one pacer.

I am very much annoyed with Bangladesh management in this aspect. Why play just one pacer in test? Dumbest decision ever, when you have some capable pacers.

Bangladesh should come out of defensive attitude of playing 8 batsmen, one pacer in tests

 

[Tamed Giraffe]

Bangladesh only ever play tests at home on the flattest pitches that have nothing on offer for the pace bowlers. So it would make zero sense to have youngsters like mustafiz and taskin destroying their bodies bowling 25 overs in these types of wickets under the captaincy of mushfiqur who will bowl them to their graves.

When bangladesh get chances to play tests in conditions like SA, Australia or Eng then you will see the management play Taskin and Mustafiz. But for now in home conditions it wouldn't make any sense atm. Longevity and development should be the aim atm and bowling on roads wont teach these youngsters anything.

 

[Neferpitou]

It's tough to decide who produces more mediocre trundlers..India or Bangladesh??

Currently, we're in the lead.

 

[Varun]

They're way better than us, I'll tell you that much.

 

[Anik Sharma]

Heh @ pace. I didn't see even one BD ball over 131 km/h. Even if we consider the speed gun malfunctioning fiasco B Kumar was comfortay bowling at 132 to 134.

You simply don't WATCH BD VS Others match properly.
Taskin's Fastest delivery was 147 kph back in 14 Wes tour 3rd ODI. he regularly bowls in 135-138 pace. Sometime deliberately slower like 120-125. Rarely but effectively he reaches 140+ too.
And Rubels fastest delivery even in the last match was 142.5 something.
But yes Mash is more like a medium pacer now-a days. But that's it. No NEED to under rate any bowler. Please !!!!

Bro, plz watch the game again (Highlites).

 

[Slog]

Expectations for England series?

 

[Dios]

Would have loved to have seen The Fizz embarrass the English batsman but alas it was not to be. Hopefully, Taskin is cleared. Apparently the remedial work and the long hours he has been spending in the nets have made him a better bowler.

Mashrafe is hogging a place in the squad without contributing much with the ball but he is still handy in the right conditions and has a knack of getting crucial breakthroughs. What he has lost in pace and aggression he has somewhat made up for with accuracy and a much improved bowling IQ.

After Mashrafe retires, Bangladesh's pace attack should be:

Tests:
Mustafizur Rahman
Mohammad Shahid
Taskin Ahmed
Al-Amin Hossain
Abu Haider

Reserves: Mohammad Saifuddin, Towhidul Islam, Shuvashish Roy

ODIs:
Mustafizur Rahman
Taskin Ahmed
Rubel Hossain
Al-Amin Hossain
Mohammad Saifuddin

Reserves: Abu Haider, Shuvashish Roy, Kamrul Islam Rabbi

 

[troodon]

Mustafizur is class. Not a fit guy though.

Taskin is decent and good sometimes. Age is on his side.

Rubel is below average.

Mashrafe would not make it to the eleven of most sides.

Al Amin is mediocre.

Bangla slow spinners are still their strength.

 

[Suleiman]

Mustafizur Asian Shane Bond, less pace with more movement and friendlier.

 

[Executioner]

Our spinners barring Shakib is mediocre

Shakib as a bowler alone is world class

 

[HussainRx8]

Has Taskin cleared his test?

 

[nighthawk23]

Our spinners barring Shakib is mediocre

Shakib as a bowler alone is world class

What happened to Sohag Gazi?

 

[Ellipsism]

Mohammad Shahid (a fine new-ball bowler) and Al-Amin Hossain (excellent at the death) can't get into the squad at the moment that's how good Bangladesh's pace attack is.

Al-Amin is mediocre, Ahmed Shehzad was schooling him in the WT20. Doesn't that tell you something...

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Has Taskin cleared his test?

Results are pending.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Mohammad Shahid is an ordinary bowler. No pace, although he can crank it up to 140, but still no real pace. He is accurate though and can bowl the occaisional jaffa. But he's not at the class of a Mustafizur or Taskin.

 

[aloo paratha]

Al Amin looks like a mad chucker imo..

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Really like Mustafiz. Insha'Allah he will get fit soon.

Classy bowler.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Do they even have a pace attack?

One is made of glass and can barely ball 4 overs in consecutive days and the other is a chucker.

 

[Ab Fan]

Possibly just a matter of time when India gets shifted to 9th position in terms of pace bowling attack.

Currently it's ahead of Sri Lanka, West Indies and Bangladesh. So it's an all good going situation.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Do they even have a pace attack?

One is made of glass and can barely ball 4 overs in consecutive days and the other is a chucker.

Who's the chucker?

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Underestimate Mustafiz at your own peril. He will shine everywhere. He has plenty in his bowling but also a very good cricketing brain.

 

[New Yorker]

Al-Amin has already been reported and cleared. He has never been banned.

Bangladesh's pace attack in ODIs is miles better than Pakistan. You're awfully mouthy for a fan of a team that conceded the world record for highest runs in an innings.

We have fielded one the worlds worst performing ODI attacks in recent years. While Amir has been nothing more than decent on his return, we endlessly recycle garbage like Rahat and Wahab. Meanwhile The Fizz is nearly peerless at this stage in his career. Its him and Starc and Rabada at the top.

 

[Executioner]

Al Amin doesn't chuck, it seems like he does because of hyper extension

He was suspcted and passed the test with flying colours

 

[New Yorker]

Do they even have a pace attack?

One is made of glass and can barely ball 4 overs in consecutive days and the other is a chucker.

I didn't know Irfan played for Bangladesh

 

[JaDed]

Underestimate Mustafiz at your own peril. He will shine everywhere. He has plenty in his bowling but also a very good cricketing brain.

Don't think anyone is underestimating him but his fitness is in question considering he is a top LOI bowler needs to bowl more.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Can't believe I am seeing a day when Bangladeshis are undermining us for having an inferior pace attack - sigh.........

 

[saeed5646]

Al-Amin has already been reported and cleared. He has never been banned.

Bangladesh's pace attack in ODIs is miles better than Pakistan. You're awfully mouthy for a fan of a team that conceded the world record for highest runs in an innings.

wait till bangladesh tour in england then we will see what bangladesh bowler are made of

this is england recent record in odis at home and one away

408/9 vs New Zealand 2015

399/9 vs South Africa 2016

365/9 vs New Zealand 2015

350/3 vs New Zealand 2015

Bangladesh are home track bulley and are never tested outside asia in bilateral series so good luck than

and without fizz ban attack is weak unless chucker taskin and sunny returns

 

[saeed5646]

I didn't know Irfan played for Bangladesh

how can you miss Mashrafe mortaza he has gone through numbers of injuries

 

[New Yorker]

how can you miss Mashrafe mortaza he has gone through numbers of injuries

eh, you didn't see the irony?

 

[Xeeebon]

Not under rated...it was decent in the past but only for the last couple of years it's becoming good attack and wil be a force in the near future as the management had taken the necessary steps in the past to make a good bowling unit and now they are ripping fruits...

 

[Obstructing_the_field]

many biased comments... they r doing gr8 at home,,, beating teams for fun... and if they can do half the work away, they will be at par with most bowling attacks......

 

[Prince_]

Bangladesh are home track bulley and are never tested outside asia in bilateral series so good luck than

These days there aren't a whole lot of differences between pitces in limited overs Cricket, almost all of them r flat belters. Look at the way Newzealand thrashed Pakistan in UAE in 2014, but the same team got Banglawashed two times by Bangla.


This means, in limited overs Cricket if a team is crap it will lose badly no matter where it plays since this form of Cricket isn't as much dependent on pitch/conditions as test.

and without fizz ban attack is weak unless chucker taskin and sunny returns

At the moment Bangla has one of the best bowling attack in limited overs Cricket. Their bowlers r so much ahead of their Pakistani counterparts that their head to head comparison is almost laughable.


There shouldn't be any doubt about the fact Bangla has easily the best bowling attack from Asia even without fizz.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Ordinary lot.

 

[Prince_]

many biased comments... they r doing gr8 at home,,, beating teams for fun... and if they can do half the work away, they will be at par with most bowling attacks......

Indeed. In LOIs they will hammer teams like Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Zimbabwe even in away matches.......... They have quite a few world class players in their team.

 

[Obstructing_the_field]

Indeed. In LOIs they will hammer teams like Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Zimbabwe even in away matches.......... They have quite a few world class players in their team.

u missed india ... as i said ... dont be biased.....

Eng, Aus and Newzeland are on a different league .... SA, India, Bag are second league.... Pak WI are there at the bottom... so xcept the truth ... lol

 

[nighthawk23]

Indeed. In LOIs they will hammer teams like Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Zimbabwe even in away matches.......... They have quite a few world class players in their team.

They had a few good months of cricket in 2015 preceded by a 2014 where the only team they beat was Zimbabwe. I am not saying that they haven't improved but as of right now it is too early to draw a conclusion based on the small size of the sample data.

 

[HitWicket]

Indeed. In LOIs they will hammer teams like Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Zimbabwe even in away matches.......... They have quite a few world class players in their team.

2... And one of them looks like he won't be playing half the time.

 

[ethan hunt]

Bangladesh has to be the most overrated team on this forum.

Absolute rubbish in two formats and average in one .
The pace bowling is still pretty ordinary barring mustafiz who is more of a Limited overs bowler and perennially injured.
No test class bowlers to compete in test matches and lack of big hitters to win 20 over matches.
Will still struggle to take 20 wickets or contain sides on flat wickets .

 

[Prince_]

They had a few good months of cricket in 2015 preceded by a 2014 where the only team they beat was Zimbabwe. I am not saying that they haven't improved but as of right now it is too early to draw a conclusion based on the small size of the sample data.

Absolutely wrong. Bangla have improved leaps and bounds in recent years and there's no doubt about the fact that they have been playing incredibly well in limited overs Cricket for last couple of years.

U seem to have missed those series where Bangla team whitewashed a team like newzealand for fun.

Besides, keep in mind that they were the quarter finalist of last world cup, finalists of last two Asia cup and odi giants like India and South Africa have been hammered by them recently.


All these suggest that they have emerged as a strong odi side because of their constant good performance in LOIs, not because of few good months of cricket.

 

[Prince_]

2... And one of them looks like he won't be playing half the time.

Who told u? Injury is a part and parcel of modern day cricket where a top class player like him needs to play cricket throughout the year. His body is still quite fragile which is quite understandabl.

In next couple of years he'll get much stronger and with the experience he'll eventually understand the limitations of his body which will help him to keep himself free from injury for a longer period of time.

 

[MenInG]

For ODIs in particular they are assembling a very talented and skilled pace bowling attack.
The attack is:

Mashrafe Mortaza - 31 years old and averaged of 31
Rubel Hossain - 25 years old average of 32
Taskin Ahmed - 20 year old with avg of 26
Mustafizur Rehman - 19 yr old with an avg of 9 (ofcourse will go up)

But these are 4 very talented bowlers with Mashrafe a proven performer and a senior statesman of the side and bowling attack.

Rubel had a good WC and seems to be a good option

Taskin I am impressed by and is very young right now so can improve leaps and bound

And Mustafizur has taken intl cricket by storm.

So a very young bowling attack and if they keep on improving they can def go on to become one of the top pace batteries in int'l cricket.

Here is the topic of the thread.

 

[GenericBrand]

One's injured, one has to pass a test, another is on his last legs and one injured himself last year then proceeded to lose his central contract I believe (don't think he bowled a delivery since the 2015 WC or Pak series)

 

[nighthawk23]

Absolutely wrong. Bangla have improved leaps and bounds in recent years and there's no doubt about the fact that they have been playing incredibly well in limited overs Cricket for last couple of years.

U seem to have missed those series where Bangla team whitewashed a team like newzealand for fun.

Besides, keep in mind that they were the quarter finalist of last world cup, finalists of last two Asia cup and odi giants like India and South Africa have been hammered by them recently.


All these suggest that they have emerged as a strong odi side because of their constant good performance in LOIs, not because of few good months of cricket.

How does that disprove any of what i said lol?

The New Zealand series was in 2013. South Africa and India both toured during the aforementioned peak months of Bangla cricket in 2015. I will give you the Asian cup but they also finished last in the Asian Cup in 2014 when it was in ODI format.

 

[Anik Sharma]

How does that disprove any of what i said lol?

The New Zealand series was in 2013. South Africa and India both toured during the aforementioned peak months of Bangla cricket in 2015. I will give you the Asian cup but they also finished last in the Asian Cup in 2014 when it was in ODI format.

You guys are behaving as if BD wins 2/3 out per 10 games.
Which is massively underrated stats.
You see we won more than 60% in 12,13. That too against NZ, WES, SRI etc.
Most of the wins came against them.
That's true that 14' was poor for us as barring ZIM series we didn't won or achieve anyhing.
But 15' has been great.
And it was ok in the past when we used to won 2/3 games suddenly with top teams. But now we not only win against them..but also whitewash top class(top7) teams. Still you guys are behaving like BD is almost the same since 2005/6.

In last 4 season of cricket..
Where were you..when BD whitewashed NZ in last two serieses(7-0 overall)
Where were you..when BD won 3 of the last 6 serieses with WES.
Where were you..when BD won 3 of the last 5 encounters with ENG.

You only saw 2014 which was poor for BD.
But you are too arrogant to see our success in 2012,13 and 15 too.

And we are yet to start our 2016 ODI season.

 

[sshakir411]

Afghanistan has a better pace attack...and unlike the Bangladeshis they're actually quick

 

[Executioner]

Afghanistan has a better pace attack...and unlike the Bangladeshis they're actually quick

Then it implies that Afghanistan has the best pace attack in the world?

Since 2015 CWC, Bangladesh has the best average when it comes to bowling department "In the world". That is statistics ofcourse, and statistics doesn't speak much. But if Afghanistan bowling attack is supposedly better than ours then obviously they are among the best in the world?

And speaking of quick, Taskin and Rubel can bowl around the 90 MPH mark regularly and Fizz has gained pace in recent times and can reach even 90 MPH. Mortaza is slow ofcourse but if you have had 10 surgeries its great he is being able to bowl even at 130 when anyone else, probably wouldn't be able to bowl faster than a spinner.

Having said that, I won't deny that Afghanistan has an exciting pace attack. But if Taskin and Fizz returns to bolster our attack then we would surely have one of the better pace attacks in the world.

 

[Ind_Yeah]

Afghanistan has a better pace attack...and unlike the Bangladeshis they're actually quick

Toyger fans like quoting stats to make tall claims about their pace bowlers. By that yardstick Afghan bowlers are better than them.

Still, BD has much better batting than Afghans, so they should win that ODI series at least.

 

[Ind_Yeah]

Then it implies that Afghanistan has the best pace attack in the world?

Since 2015 CWC, Bangladesh has the best average when it comes to bowling department "In the world". That is statistics ofcourse, and statistics doesn't speak much. But if Afghanistan bowling attack is supposedly better than ours then obviously they are among the best in the world?

And speaking of quick, Taskin and Rubel can bowl around the 90 MPH mark regularly and Fizz has gained pace in recent times and can reach even 90 MPH. Mortaza is slow ofcourse but if you have had 10 surgeries its great he is being able to bowl even at 130 when anyone else, probably wouldn't be able to bowl faster than a spinner.

Having said that, I won't deny that Afghanistan has an exciting pace attack. But if Taskin and Fizz returns to bolster our attack then we would surely have one of the better pace attacks in the world.

That's why statistics can only be used as an indicator, not proof of quality. It is part of the context, and doesn't really tell the entire story.

 

[Executioner]

That's why statistics can only be used as an indicator, not proof of quality. It is part of the context, and doesn't really tell the entire story.

Ofcourse

Now let us get into context, you will see that since the world cup, our spinners have been ordinary sans Shakib. So who has been taking the wickets? Ofcourse, our pace bowlers. Lets look at the context once again, the condition of the pitches where mostly flat and nothing much for the pacers to use, be it world cup or wickets in Bangladesh.

Taking all that account I would say our pace attack looks rather potent, at full strength. Best in Asia in LOIs? Possibly. But not more than that. Lot of work left to do yet. Unfortunately we are really lacking a quality offie or even a leggie but hard to find either one of them, the former because ICC will ban basically anyone who bowls this way(yet someone like bhajji goes unscathed) and the latter being incredibly difficult feat to add and we don't have anyone who can coach a rookie leggie.

 

[sshakir411]

Then it implies that Afghanistan has the best pace attack in the world?

Since 2015 CWC, Bangladesh has the best average when it comes to bowling department "In the world". That is statistics ofcourse, and statistics doesn't speak much. But if Afghanistan bowling attack is supposedly better than ours then obviously they are among the best in the world?

And speaking of quick, Taskin and Rubel can bowl around the 90 MPH mark regularly and Fizz has gained pace in recent times and can reach even 90 MPH. Mortaza is slow ofcourse but if you have had 10 surgeries its great he is being able to bowl even at 130 when anyone else, probably wouldn't be able to bowl faster than a spinner.

Having said that, I won't deny that Afghanistan has an exciting pace attack. But if Taskin and Fizz returns to bolster our attack then we would surely have one of the better pace attacks in the world.

delusions galore.

before you lose your mind and get all emotional please read what I wrote again. Afghanistan pace attack is better than Bangladesh...I did not say Afghanistan's bowling is better. This is a fact and you can get as emotional as you want and write pages on pages but what I said will remain true.

 

[Ind_Yeah]

Ofcourse

Now let us get into context, you will see that since the world cup, our spinners have been ordinary sans Shakib. So who has been taking the wickets? Ofcourse, our pace bowlers. Lets look at the context once again, the condition of the pitches where mostly flat and nothing much for the pacers to use, be it world cup or wickets in Bangladesh.

Taking all that account I would say our pace attack looks rather potent, at full strength. Best in Asia in LOIs? Possibly. But not more than that. Lot of work left to do yet. Unfortunately we are really lacking a quality offie or even a leggie but hard to find either one of them, the former because ICC will ban basically anyone who bowls this way(yet someone like bhajji goes unscathed) and the latter being incredibly difficult feat to add and we don't have anyone who can coach a rookie leggie.

Here we go. Another Toyger fan, self-proclaiming their team as "best". And best in LOIs? Can't score 2 runs in 3 balls, with your "best" batsmen at the crease against a 90 pound rookie medium pacer. And claim to be best.

Face it, T20s - tum se na ho paayega

And ODIs, yes couple of good performances at home. But win an ODI series against a top 6 team outside the mudflats of Chittagong and then talk.

Bangladesh - Team is improving, fans are not. Same old story.

 

[Ind_Yeah]

Ofcourse

Now let us get into context, you will see that since the world cup, our spinners have been ordinary sans Shakib. So who has been taking the wickets? Ofcourse, our pace bowlers. Lets look at the context once again, the condition of the pitches where mostly flat and nothing much for the pacers to use, be it world cup or wickets in Bangladesh.

Taking all that account I would say our pace attack looks rather potent, at full strength. Best in Asia in LOIs? Possibly. But not more than that. Lot of work left to do yet. Unfortunately we are really lacking a quality offie or even a leggie but hard to find either one of them, the former because ICC will ban basically anyone who bowls this way(yet someone like bhajji goes unscathed) and the latter being incredibly difficult feat to add and we don't have anyone who can coach a rookie leggie.

And every informed bangladesh fan accepts that chucking is a HUGE problem at the domestic cricket level in Bangladesh. Clubs lean heavily on left arm chuckers to win games and umpires look the other way. Why doesn't Imad Wasim get called? or Ravi Ashwin? Or Jadeja? Oh yes, because they are not Bangladesh - the most scary cricket team in the world, whose bowlers have to be feared and stopped by a ICC, else they would win everything in sight. Delusions ki bhi had hoti hai

 

[HitWicket]

Then it implies that Afghanistan has the best pace attack in the world?

Since 2015 CWC, Bangladesh has the best average when it comes to bowling department "In the world". That is statistics ofcourse, and statistics doesn't speak much. But if Afghanistan bowling attack is supposedly better than ours then obviously they are among the best in the world?

And speaking of quick, Taskin and Rubel can bowl around the 90 MPH mark regularly and Fizz has gained pace in recent times and can reach even 90 MPH. Mortaza is slow ofcourse but if you have had 10 surgeries its great he is being able to bowl even at 130 when anyone else, probably wouldn't be able to bowl faster than a spinner.

Having said that, I won't deny that Afghanistan has an exciting pace attack. But if Taskin and Fizz returns to bolster our attack then we would surely have one of the better pace attacks in the world.

In international cricket Taskin will bowl a single ball at the 90mph mark every 3 or 4 games whilst Mustafizur has basically never hit the 90mph at all in his international career so far.