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NEW DELHI: In order to boost India’s chances against Pakistan Cricket Board's claim of $70 million for BCCI not honouring the bilateral series agreement, Indian board’s acting secretary Amitabh Choudhary has sent letter to all those who worked as board officials since 2014 – including former bosses Shashank Manohar, N Srinivasan, Sanjay Patel, Anurag Thakur and former IPL COO Sunder Raman – seeking evidence of all that transpired between them and the PCB during their tenures. It is understood that BCCI is trying to make a strong case against Pakistan by fishing out details of old correspondence between the two boards.

Sources said Choudhary has also sent a letter to the ICC, requesting them to furnish records of the board meetings that involved discussions on India-Pakistan bilateral series. BCCI hasn’t got any reply from the former bosses but sources said they would eventually come together and explain to the world that Pakistan’s position is untenable. Sources also said that the office-bearers, not the Committee of Administrators, are handling this issue.

When TOI contacted Choudhary, he simply said: “India has a strong case against Pakistan.”
Sources said India is trying to build a case around the argument that BCCI had pledged support to play Pakistan in writing on condition that India would get the vote of the neighbours in formation of the Big Three – comprising India, Australia and England – financial model. Since the model failed to take shape, leading to reduction in BCCI’s share of ICC revenues, the commitment to play Pakistan also stands cancelled.

ICC has constituted a three-member dispute resolution committee to look into PCB’s compensation claim against India for not honouring to play five bilateral series in an eight-year cycle (2015-2023). Source said that the hearing is supposed to take place later this year in October. As per the newly drafted FTP prepared by CoA, India have slots for Pakistan series, but it won’t happen till the clearance comes from the Indian government.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...against-pcb/articleshow/63824811.cms?from=mdr
 
Yawn! Not the first time we hear stuff like this and not the last
 
Btw, if this is the line to be taken by bcci, won't that intact mean that there was indeed a formal mou?.. Which ironically wasn't the case early on?
 
KevinFern said:
Btw, if this is the line to be taken by bcci, won't that intact mean that there was indeed a formal mou?.. Which ironically wasn't the case early on?
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Yup. If we believe the resident experts, they had us believe that case was already a victory for BCCI as the MOU has no legal standing.

Expect a lot of drama to happen when the hearings start. I hope PCB's legal team has done their homework. Time for BCCI to pay up.
 
This is a much different position than the Indian posters here have taken. Looks like the BCCI is taking the MoU seriously
 
I've been harping about it for months now.


When TOI contacted Choudhary, he simply said: “India has a strong case against Pakistan.”
Sources said India is trying to build a case around the argument that BCCI had pledged support to play Pakistan in writing on condition that India would get the vote of the neighbours in formation of the Big Three – comprising India, Australia and England – financial model. Since the model failed to take shape, leading to reduction in BCCI’s share of ICC revenues, the commitment to play Pakistan also stands cancelled.
 
rhony said:
I've been harping about it for months now.


When TOI contacted Choudhary, he simply said: “India has a strong case against Pakistan.”
Sources said India is trying to build a case around the argument that BCCI had pledged support to play Pakistan in writing on condition that India would get the vote of the neighbours in formation of the Big Three – comprising India, Australia and England – financial model. Since the model failed to take shape, leading to reduction in BCCI’s share of ICC revenues, the commitment to play Pakistan also stands cancelled.
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So basically you want to set up a bussines but your short of some money 💰💰💰

So you borrow some money from a friend 🤝 🤝 🤝

You promise to return it in the next 5 years and even signed an agreement 📝 📝 📝

Unfortunate for you that your bussiness fails 😢😢😢

Regardless of having the money you decide that you won’t pay back you friend 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
 
daytrader said:
This is a much different position than the Indian posters here have taken. Looks like the BCCI is taking the MoU seriously
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If BCCI had taken the MoU seriously, we wouldn't be witnessing this legal episode.
 
If they lose the case and BCCI has 2 choices - either pay the damages or arrange matches in UAE/India, I hope the latter happens.
 
Slim said:
ICC will deduct the damage from the handout/share they give to BCCI.
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Is that official? Has the ICC mentioned that? Because I do not seem have read anything about the enforcement part and how it will be done. The only thing that I can recall is that the ICC saying that the ruling will be final without appeals.
 
USofA said:
Is that official? Has the ICC mentioned that? Because I do not seem have read anything about the enforcement part and how it will be done. The only thing that I can recall is that the ICC saying that the ruling will be final without appeals.
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No, it isnt official. Neither BCCI planning to refuse the damages to PCB is. All we can do is form conjectures.
 
So the BCCI must be afraid of something that they are building up a strong case against the PCB. The first decision on the matter in October will be the last. No one will have the right to appeal against it, I believe.
 
Try all you want BCCI, there is no defence against not honouring the MOU :najam
 
oooh BCCI is scared , nothing will happen and PCB will not a get a dime rightly so.

PCB has no right to claim anything.
 
AMSS said:
If BCCI had taken the MoU seriously, we wouldn't be witnessing this legal episode.
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They should have! But it's BCCI, hypocrites who'll go back on their word anytime if Pakistan benefits in anyway. Honour is secondary for them greed is first
 
All this dramebaazi shows that PCB are not aware about the difference between MoU and a contract and they have been spending a million dollars or so clutching on straws.
 
PakLFC said:
So the BCCI must be afraid of something that they are building up a strong case against the PCB. The first decision on the matter in October will be the last. No one will have the right to appeal against it, I believe.
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BCCI is not incompetent board, they will make sure to have adequate legal evidence to protect own interest. Avoid giving out hard earned money as handout to incompetent boards. :srini
 
daytrader said:
They should have! But it's BCCI, hypocrites who'll go back on their word anytime if Pakistan benefits in anyway. Honour is secondary for them greed is first
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Did anyone ever doubt that? Money has always been primary for them, and that's the reason it is where it is today and the clout it enjoys.
 
Hitman said:
Did anyone ever doubt that? Money has always been primary for them, and that's the reason it is where it is today and the clout it enjoys.
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As if PCB always fights to protect honour and spirit of cricket... Lol. Every cricket board is a business entity first before anything else, if not then they are biggest fools.
 
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IndianFan2018 said:
As if PCB always fights to protect honour and spirit of cricket... Lol. Every cricket board is a business entity first before anything else, if not then they are biggest fools.
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Most of all, any Indian player found guilty of corruption was immediately banned by the BCCI and never recalled again. Now just have a look at the PCB in that regards.
 
Does anyone has any idea who is this bright lawyer who is taking up this matter on behalf of PCB ? What are his credentials ? Has he won any cases of international significance in his career ? I am no lawyer, but I can tell you that no lawyer worth his salt will take up a case like this. I suspect that the credentials of the lawyer is that he is a relative of some PCB bigwig.
 
PakLFC said:
So the BCCI must be afraid of something that they are building up a strong case against the PCB. The first decision on the matter in October will be the last. No one will have the right to appeal against it, I believe.
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You are correct. That is what the ICC has said. But they have not mentioned anything about enforcement of their decision. How is the decision going to be enforced? And by whom/who? That is what I am interested in.

Not sure why the ICC has not released any statements regarding this. Is it by design?
 
Hell will freeze over if the BCCI "loses" something and the PCB "wins" something.

If you're a betting man, you know which way you should go on this one.
 
Varun said:
Hell will freeze over if the BCCI "loses" something and the PCB "wins" something.

If you're a betting man, you know which way you should go on this one.
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Things havent been rosy for BCCI.

1) Pig 3
2) Losing out on revenue from the ICC's handouts
3) Asia Cup transfer to UAE

I hope if you are a betting man, you are more informed than you currently are.
 
This is just stupid, we all know this will be a cakewalk for BCCI... Even though I feel it was wrong to cancel the series vs Pakistan, I dont think it was BCCI's fault, it was due to government interference and BCCI is not a bigger entity than the Indian government.
 
Slim said:
Things havent been rosy for BCCI.

2) Losing out on revenue from the ICC's handouts

I hope if you are a betting man, you are more informed than you currently are.
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Errr BCCI probably have enough money to buy ICC and make them work under them 'officially'
 
Slim said:
Things havent been rosy for BCCI.

1) Pig 3
2) Losing out on revenue from the ICC's handouts
3) Asia Cup transfer to UAE

I hope if you are a betting man, you are more informed than you currently are.
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But they'll still slaughter the PCB, pun intended.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Errr BCCI probably have enough money to buy ICC and make them work under them 'officially'
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Is that why BCCI ended up sending their team to the champions trophy like wimps after making empty threats?

Varun said:
But they'll still slaughter the PCB, pun intended.
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If you believe that the judges presiding the case care about BCCI's millions then yes otherwise no.
 
emranabbas said:
So basically you want to set up a bussines but your short of some money ������

So you borrow some money from a friend �� �� ��

You promise to return it in the next 5 years and even signed an agreement �� �� ��

Unfortunate for you that your bussiness fails ������

Regardless of having the money you decide that you won’t pay back you friend ����������
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It’s like the friend was not willing to pay you money he was totally against it and considered it wrong however I told him if he agrees I will pay him little bribe and he changed his stance and lent me money.. Now I am not paying him bribe he is whining.

BCCI ain’t no saint however people are forgetting PCB was against big three and knew it will be bad for them still they got sucked in when BCCI offered then to play few series.. So PCB are not any saints either.. Ita just dirty business from all sides no one can take any high moral ground here it’s how businesses are run at top level.
 
Slim said:
Is that why BCCI ended up sending their team to the champions trophy like wimps after making empty threats?
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No, they didn't. They CoA imposed on them by the Supreme Court compelled them to do so.
 
IndianFan2018 said:
As if PCB always fights to protect honour and spirit of cricket... Lol. Every cricket board is a business entity first before anything else, if not then they are biggest fools.
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It’s a huge joke, PCB themselves knew big three was wrong and is against spirit of cricket however they sold their morales for few series against India..

People here are pretty dumb if they think businesses are run on morales it’s all about money and PCB were happy to let big three screw cricket as long as they got some share of the pie from India series..
 
big_gamer007 said:
It’s a huge joke, PCB themselves knew big three was wrong and is against spirit of cricket however they sold their morales for few series against India..

People here are pretty dumb if they think businesses are run on morales it’s all about money and PCB were happy to let big three screw cricket as long as they got some share of the pie from India series..
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Ha ha correct bro. Looks like PCB and fans are having very high expectations on this case. ICC can't do jack if BCCI is not willing to pay single penny to PCB :srini
 
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Hitman said:
No, they didn't. They CoA imposed on them by the Supreme Court compelled them to do so.
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CoA are the one who may say big say in this whole drama more than ICC in favour of PCB, only hope for PCB is our clowns CoA :srini
 
Hitman said:
That bloody term makes my blood boil.
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Good opportunity for PCB to squeeze some $ when CoA are on command, once BCCI administration gets full power back .... PCB can say permanent good bye to any $ coming out of Ind bilaterals :ashwin
 
Hitman said:
Most of all, any Indian player found guilty of corruption was immediately banned by the BCCI and never recalled again. Now just have a look at the PCB in that regards.
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The thread is about BCCI building a case against PCB and how they have changed their argument about the MoU validity. Try defending this with relevant arguments rather than changing the topic to corruption. These are 2 different topics, there are other threads on corruption, I'm sure you'll get your answers there
 
unfortunately for Pakistan ... an MoU is not a legally binding document anywhere in the world , so lets see where this "arbitration" ands up.
 
squarecut said:
All this dramebaazi shows that PCB are not aware about the difference between MoU and a contract and they have been spending a million dollars or so clutching on straws.
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Exactly and a lot of posters here seem to be as ignorant of the difference between a contract and an MoU...... its quite amusing
 
dragon751 said:
unfortunately for Pakistan ... an MoU is not a legally binding document anywhere in the world , so lets see where this "arbitration" ands up.
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I wish to say I'm sick and fed up with this psy ops and one-upmanship by Indian posters, and I'm absolutely sure you also have zero idea what is going to transpire.

Initially they were adamant ICC would never allow any panel between India and Pakistan.

Than this same jhoota newspaper Time of India quoted 'high BCCI official' that MoU does'nt stand legally as there are no letterheads, no tangible documentation and vice versa.

Now 'they'll build a strong case' as though they were sleeping till now. This playing with information won't help anyones cause.

I'm sick and fed up of reading these expert opinions just to defend their corrupt crony BCCI filled with politicians.
 
IndianFan2018 said:
BCCI is not incompetent board, they will make sure to have adequate legal evidence to protect own interest. Avoid giving out hard earned money as handout to incompetent boards. :srini
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Speak when the decision is made. India won't be the judge here:genius.
 
USofA said:
You are correct. That is what the ICC has said. But they have not mentioned anything about enforcement of their decision. How is the decision going to be enforced? And by whom/who? That is what I am interested in.

Not sure why the ICC has not released any statements regarding this. Is it by design?
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From what I know there is a while yet before any decision is made in October. Prior to that there will be developments I am sure. I assume the ICC will be the enforcers here seeing the are the leading organisation.
 
I seriously want this MOU saga to be done and dusted. Idc if it goes towards PCB or BCCI, but just get it done with it. They have been strectching this mess for over 4 years now :facepalm:
 
Considering there's no official "contract" and no Big 3, which actually was the basis of MOU, this is just a drama by ICC to let Pakistan learn a lesson the hard way and stop harping about it for years. For Pakistan, this is a good scenario as well as their next tv rights are.coming up in a couple of years. They will have enough time to formulate a strategy for the next cycle considering India is never going to agree for another series in the next cycle. There is no forced ftp anymore. Anybody can pick and choose. This committee could even be Manohar in collusion with BCCI just to end the sorry saga. Remember, Manohar was actually the BCCI president not too long ago and he wasn't in favor of a.series with Pak either.
 
So now Pakistanis are crying about the fact that BCCI is preparing for the upcoming meeting? So what were you expecting BCCI to do instead? Just cut a check and send you the cash?

In the world I live, we prepare before walking into any meeting. It's called professionalism.
 
Kazim_Pak86 said:
I wish to say I'm sick and fed up with this psy ops and one-upmanship by Indian posters, and I'm absolutely sure you also have zero idea what is going to transpire.

Initially they were adamant ICC would never allow any panel between India and Pakistan.

Than this same jhoota newspaper Time of India quoted 'high BCCI official' that MoU does'nt stand legally as there are no letterheads, no tangible documentation and vice versa.

Now 'they'll build a strong case' as though they were sleeping till now. This playing with information won't help anyones cause.

I'm sick and fed up of reading these expert opinions just to defend their corrupt crony BCCI filled with politicians.
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just go google the term "
moU' and you will learn the meaning oh great "expert sick of other experts"
 
Kazim_Pak86 said:
I wish to say I'm sick and fed up with this psy ops and one-upmanship by Indian posters, and I'm absolutely sure you also have zero idea what is going to transpire.

Initially they were adamant ICC would never allow any panel between India and Pakistan.

Than this same jhoota newspaper Time of India quoted 'high BCCI official' that MoU does'nt stand legally as there are no letterheads, no tangible documentation and vice versa.

Now 'they'll build a strong case' as though they were sleeping till now. This playing with information won't help anyones cause.

I'm sick and fed up of reading these expert opinions just to defend their corrupt crony BCCI filled with politicians.
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Hahaha, i was trying to find the right word for what indian posters are doing in MOU related threads and you just gave it. Psy Ops. On each and every thread they will try to repeat the same thing again and again.
 
dragon751 said:
just go google the term "
moU' and you will learn the meaning oh great "expert sick of other experts"
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So why was a panel set up for it? We were made to believe that a panel wont be set up for it.
 
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