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I haven't seen this fellow bat or bowl.

I don't care.

He is a legend for me cos he is a fusion of Ben Stokes and Chris Woakes.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you....

BEN FOAKES.

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Scored a 70 and 89* for England Lions against Afghanistan in a 4 day test in Abu Dhabi.

England Lions won.
 
How on earth is England producing so many WK batsmen and all-rounders? :facepalm:
 
One of the best keepers behind the stumps in the country as well

Stokes
Foakes
Woakes

Would be an interesting order for the commentators in the future.
 
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How on earth is England producing so many WK batsmen and all-rounders? :facepalm:

UK is going through a golden period in sports, bar international soccer they are doing well in all sports including Olympics. Read somewhere they invested heavily in infra during mid 90's and are reaping it's fruits now from 6-8 years.
 
:))) Legend in the making,seeing the amount of batsmen coming through their ranks i already feel jealous. Hameed,Jennings have already shown much more promise than our opening batsmen(who have been given chances)
 
UK is going through a golden period in sports, bar international soccer they are doing well in all sports including Olympics. Read somewhere they invested heavily in infra during mid 90's and are reaping it's fruits now from 6-8 years.

They are producing the best talent in cricket at the moment.
 
I think this guy should be in England's Ashes squad.

A very good wicketkeeper who can take off some pressure from Bairstow
 
I think Ben Foakes should be in the England squad for the Ashes. Not only because Stokes, Foakes and Woakes will cause a lot of laughs, but it looks like he is doing well recently; Australia is a long way away from England so they will take a back up keeper to Bairstow in case of injury; it's a shoot out between Buttler and Foakes one would think.
 
I think Ben Foakes should be in the England squad for the Ashes. Not only because Stokes, Foakes and Woakes will cause a lot of laughs, but it looks like he is doing well recently; Australia is a long way away from England so they will take a back up keeper to Bairstow in case of injury; it's a shoot out between Buttler and Foakes one would think.

There'll be an England lions tour at the same time so we'll have 30+ players in the country. Not sure if Buttler perhaps has a BBL contract lined up instead if he doesn't make the ashes squad.
 
I'd make him the specialist keeper batting at 8.

Bairstow is wasted at 7, he should focus on batting alone as he could be the answer to England's problems at 5.
 
How about Ben Foakes as wicket-keeper and Jonny Bairstow as a regular batsman in the England XI ?

I have heard that this Foakes is an excellent wicketkeeper who can bat as well. Do not understand what does butler offer as a specialist batter at number 7. They should play a full fledge keeper in Foakes and let Bairstow play as a batsman. His 60s and 70s will turn into hundreds.
 
No.Buttler and Bairstow are fine.If anything,Buttler should take the gloves instead of Bairstow.
 
Butler averages early 30 in test and FC whil Foakes is early 40s. Also he is a better gloveman than butler

I am not doubting Ben Foakes capability.But Jos Buttler has the ability to take the game away from the opposition single handedly like he did in the second test against Pakistan at Leeds.
 
I am not doubting Ben Foakes capability.But Jos Buttler has the ability to take the game away from the opposition single handedly like he did in the second test against Pakistan at Leeds.

There is no doubt about him taking the game away. However in tests Butler hasn't done that consistently, otherwise his average would be in the 40s like gilchirist. Secondly in terms of keeping, butler is not that good and that is why he is not getting the gloves in tests which puts more pressure on bairstow. It is not easy to keep and bat at number 5 in tests. Ben Foakes might not be as destructive as Butler but in terms of betterment for England team, there are 2 reasons:

1) better glovesman than butler which is so essential in tests. Plus a more reliable batsman
2) Can free up Bairstow
 
Play Bairstow, Buttler and Foakes

Cook
Any opener (won’t make a difference)
Root
Bairstow
Buttler
Stokes
Foakes (WK)
Woakes/Curran
Rashid
Broad
Anderson
 
Play Bairstow, Buttler and Foakes

Cook
Any opener (won’t make a difference)
Root
Bairstow
Buttler
Stokes
Foakes (WK)
Woakes/Curran
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

This should be England XI. Bairstow and Buttler have to take responsibility with the bat. They cant bat that low.
 
They can’t play Bairstow and butler both . Need to get someone who is a grinder like pope or Clarke . Root Bairstow stokes Curran/ woakes are good enough stroke players
 
Ben foakes is very good talent & developing well across all formats. He is best wicketkeeper in England currently.


Unfortunately he is unlucky to be playing in the same era as bairstow & buttler. Also joe clarke & ollie pope are also capable ( not great /second choice wk in their teams ) wk batsmen.
If he continue his good form then he will definitely find place in the team sooner rather than later.

But to get him in the team bairstow must leave wk batsmen duties and buttler should be purely seen as batsman rather than second choice wk in the team.
 
Bairstow should give up the gloves without a doubt. He makes the test team on batting merit. He should just concentrate on batting.
 
So he looks really athletic and all, the way he moves. A cool-looking keeper.

But he doesn't realize he's a baby in front of Rishabh Pant who has out-sledged Australia in Australia.

Twice.

Even the Australian PM welcomed Pant with - you're not gonna sledge me are you :))

He's in for it, the next time he walks in to bat :rabada2

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He is probably at the same level as Rizwan as a pure keeper. Not a bad batsman either, but unfortunately, you cannot keep Buttler out of the side.

Crawley also scored enough runs not to be dropped from the side, so there is no room for a permanent spot for Foakes which is a shame because he an outstanding WK.
 
Rishabh Pant and Ben Stokes – two of the biggest names of their respective teams – got into an heated argument in the middle of the pitch during the change of overs during the opening day of the second Test at Chennai on Saturday. While Joe Root was bowling, Pant was seen trying to delay proceedings in order to ensure that was the last over of the day. But that was not to be as Olly Stone was allowed by the umpires to squeeze in another over.


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He’s an outstanding keeper and was unlucky not to get a run in the team. But Jos Butter is clearly the number 1 keeper in test now. England have a rotation policy so he shouldn’t be disheartened as he will definitely get games due to the rotation policy.
 
He is probably at the same level as Rizwan as a pure keeper. Not a bad batsman either, but unfortunately, you cannot keep Buttler out of the side.
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Why can’t you? He averages about 32 with the bat.

I have been saying for two years that the best England side has Foakes behind the sticks.
 
This should be England XI. Bairstow and Buttler have to take responsibility with the bat. They cant bat that low.

I wouldn’t play Bairstow again in tests unless he opens. Crawley is #3 and Root is #4. Pope #6. Not sure how Buttler fits in.
 
Rishabh Pant and Ben Stokes – two of the biggest names of their respective teams – got into an heated argument in the middle of the pitch during the change of overs during the opening day of the second Test at Chennai on Saturday. While Joe Root was bowling, Pant was seen trying to delay proceedings in order to ensure that was the last over of the day. But that was not to be as Olly Stone was allowed by the umpires to squeeze in another over.


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There was a lot of chatter going around the bar and Pant was having none of it. He was waiting for them to calm down before he can resume his innings. English were 3 overs short
 
Why can’t you? He averages about 32 with the bat.

I have been saying for two years that the best England side has Foakes behind the sticks.

Buttler averages 50 in his last 9 Tests, he was one of England’s best players last summer.

He has finally worked his game out in Test cricket and he will not be dropped.

He is currently a very good Test batsman with the rare ability to turn the match on its head and play a high-impact innings, an ability that most players do not have.

It is the reason why England persisted with him in in spite of his lean patch in 2019 and why they will persist with him in the future.

Foakes is a steady player, but he is not someone who can pull off a magical innings out of nowhere.

If England are 150/6 while chasing 320, Foakes is unlikely to pull off a special, but Buttler might.

That is why he will always be ahead of Foakes in the pecking order.
 
When Buttler is not in the team and England lose, you always have that feeling of what would have happened had Buttler played, because he has that presence and that X factor about him.

He is the type of player that the opposition is always going to be wary of irrespective of his current form.

Kohli and the Indian camp would prefer to bowl to Foakes over Buttler on any given day, as would every single team.
 
Not related to ben Foakes but still i would say that:
If you have played cricket for 10-15 years and the only thing you can do is wicketkeeping then Shame on you :yk

Its really amazing how the past era keepers were overrated as if they were doing something special, avg 20 with the bat and spend all your time working on keeping and hurray you are a legend.
Sorry, not anymore. Enough of this **
 
Chance to be a hero in this game for Foakes - but can he support Root?
 
Played well this evening — come on Foakesy, stick around for Roooooot in the morning so he can take us over the line.
 
Really solid innings in this match from Ben Foakes to support Root’s magnificent match decider. Back to being safe as houses with the gloves as well. Foakes has now cemented his spot in the Test side.
 
Great to see him cement his place at last - a real keeper for England at last.
 
Joe Root walked off the field, bat raised, taking the acclaim of the Lord's crowd following his majestic, match-winning hundred.

It was a special moment for Root given what had gone before and he would go on to talk of the "unhealthy effect" the captaincy - relinquished a little under two months ago - ended up having on his personal life.

A short distance back, letting his former skipper take his bow alone was Ben Foakes: the junior partner in the unbroken 120-run sixth wicket stand that had helped secure victory over New Zealand in a fabulous first Test.

The records will show that Foakes contributed 32 runs from 92 balls to the partnership, compared to a run-a-ball 81 from Root. More importantly, they will show that he was there at the end.

The Surrey wicketkeeper came in with England still firmly up against it, more than 100 runs from victory with five wickets remaining and only the bowlers left to come. The fact they got across the line so comfortably in the end is down to Root's brilliance, yes, but also to the efforts of Foakes.

This is a big summer for Foakes. It is coming up to five years since he was named as part of England's touring party for the 17/18 Ashes. A year later he scored a century on debut in Sri Lanka, but he has never truly been given the chance to establish himself as first choice wicketkeeper in the Test side.

In fact, the match at Lord's was his first home Test, with the previous 11 all coming overseas.

Foakes' credentials as a pure gloveman have never been in doubt. His director of cricket at Surrey, Alec Stewart, a former England wicketkeeper himself, has repeatedly stated his belief that the 29-year-old is the best in the world behind the stumps.

With the bat though, he was seen as the third of three when compared to Jonny Bairstow and Jos Buttler, the men for whom he has acted as understudy at various points over the years. Given both are good 'keepers too, that was enough to give them the edge.

But with England having committed to Bairstow as a frontline batter and Buttler being left to flourish in the shorter formats for now, Foakes looks set for a decent run in the XI.

He did not exactly let the opportunity melt effortlessly into his gloves on the tour of the West Indies though, with unusual sloppiness behind the stumps and an average of just 19.20 across six innings, four of which were played on the flattest of pitches.

So, while his place was not under any real pressure going into the New Zealand series, he still had to prove he deserved to keep it long-term. Since his debut series in Sri Lanka, he had a Test average of 16.18 going into the series opener and there were questions over his ability to play top-class fast bowling.

An average of 98.75 in the County Championship this season, with an unbeaten century and two fifties, shows Foakes is more than capable of scoring runs against seam bowling but, as countless English batters have found in recent times, there is a big difference between county bowlers and those at Test level.

Tim Southee provided an example of that as he went wide on the crease to draw a nothing shot and a tame dismissal from Foakes, doing little to dispel the doubts, and though his glove work was back to his usual standard, he walked out in the second innings under that bit more pressure.

After all, it is not hard to envisage a scenario where a supposedly long run in the side is cut short due to a lack of runs.

Harry Brook has made a blistering start to the season with Yorkshire and a Test debut is surely a matter of 'when' rather than 'if'. Should England be desperate to get him into the XI against South Africa later in the summer, might they reconsider their stance on Bairstow? Give him back the gloves he was so disappointed to lose and slot Brook in at five?

Or perhaps Buttler's red-hot form in limited overs cricket continues. New director of England men's cricket Rob Key has been a very vocal supporter of Foakes' predecessor behind the stumps in the past, while Ben Stokes has spoken of how much he leaned on Buttler for advice when he first captained the side in Root's absence back in 2020.

Certainly, on paper, Buttler appears to fit better with the sort of adventurous cricket expected under Brendon McCullum and Stokes than he did under Chris Silverwood, where the focus was on batting long and wearing down the opposition. Might he be in line for a recall?

Neither scenario is particularly likely for the time being. But if Foakes isn't contributing with the bat then it won't be long before he is looking over his shoulder, especially if England persist with a line-up that sees the tail start at No 8.

That is why Foakes' second innings knock at Lord's was so important. The runs were important but more so was the manner in which he got them.

He battled through the third evening, looking like he was batting on a different surface to Root - no shame in that - but did what was required. He made sure he was there for the start of day four.

The player who came out on that fourth morning bore little resemblance to the one who had scratched around the previous evening though. There was a freedom and fluidity to Foakes' batting, he had located the pitch that Root was batting on and found it was to his liking too.

Gone was the nervousness of day three, replaced by a calm confidence as he punched, pulled to and - most pleasingly - drove through mid-on for four to help England to their target. All the while remaining secure in defence, never giving the Black Caps a sniff of the wicket that would have broken the game wide open.

Nobody could have asked anymore of Foakes but already focus will have turned to Trent Bridge and the second Test, that begins on Friday.

Much in the same way as McCullum and Stokes will view England's win, this is just the start - a good start, one that will no doubt instil confidence, but still just the first step on a long road.

High on the agenda for Foakes will be ending a run of 20 Test innings without a half-century. If he bats like he did on Sunday, there is every chance it doesn't become 21.

SKY
 
Foakes does need a milestone score soon, and I’m also interested to see over time how he bats with the tail.

Matt Prior is one of our best wicketkeeper-batsmen of the modern era — particularly because he was superb at marshalling the lower order and adding runs alongside them.
 
His glovework is superb and as error-free as it gets. Really think he should be England's No.1 keeper going forward. Besides the fact that its obvious that this Butler experiment in tests has been a massive failure, England (or any other side) should not underestimate the importance of a good wicketkeeper who makes minimal mistakes. One dropped catch can literally change the entire trajectory of a match. A 20 with the bat can oftentimes be far less detrimental to the team's cause than a dropped catch. And our boy Jos was literally dropping multiple sitters during the Ashes not too long ago.

There are only a handful of guys in the England side that merit a place based on what they bring to the table. And Foakes is one of them.
 
England have not named a vice-captain as of yet.

How about Ben Foakes?
 
His glovework is superb and as error-free as it gets. Really think he should be England's No.1 keeper going forward. Besides the fact that its obvious that this Butler experiment in tests has been a massive failure, England (or any other side) should not underestimate the importance of a good wicketkeeper who makes minimal mistakes. One dropped catch can literally change the entire trajectory of a match. A 20 with the bat can oftentimes be far less detrimental to the team's cause than a dropped catch. And our boy Jos was literally dropping multiple sitters during the Ashes not too long ago.

There are only a handful of guys in the England side that merit a place based on what they bring to the table. And Foakes is one of them.

Agreed. Picking your best keeper is an attacking option because he will take runs from the opposition by taking catches, and the batters will be intimidated facing spinners and will stay in the crease because he can get the bails off quick. Whereas Buttler had managed just one stumping in fifty-odd tests. Yes, he *might* get a counterattacking hundred but he has done that just twice in eighty tests. While putting down catches.
 
Agreed. Picking your best keeper is an attacking option because he will take runs from the opposition by taking catches, and the batters will be intimidated facing spinners and will stay in the crease because he can get the bails off quick. Whereas Buttler had managed just one stumping in fifty-odd tests. Yes, he *might* get a counterattacking hundred but he has done that just twice in eighty tests. While putting down catches.

Buttler for me, should have been dropped based on his glovework alone. But he made the selector's choice even easier by failing miserably with the bat.
 
Buttler for me, should have been dropped based on his glovework alone. But he made the selector's choice even easier by failing miserably with the bat.

Buttler is not good enough for tests in either department. Goodness knows how many tests he has lost with his drop machine antics.
 
Got the sense that Foakes matured a fair bit as a Test cricketer in the winning partnership with Joe Root. Look forward to seeing Ben batting for England at the weekend. He needs to start contributing 50s regularly in the lower order.
 
Looking to another good performance from him today. Well, not today if England bat. But given the state of our top order, he will be needed.
 
England Men’s Test wicketkeeper Ben Foakes has tested positive for COVID-19.

Foakes was unable to keep wicket yesterday on day three of the Third LV= Insurance Test at Headingley suffering from back stiffness. On a further medical assessment yesterday evening, he subsequently tested positive after administering an LFT COVID-19 test.

Details of his return to the England set-up will be announced in due course. However, it is hoped he will be fit for the LV= Insurance Test against India starting next Friday at Edgbaston.

Kent wicketkeeper/batter Sam Billings, subject to ICC approval, has been drafted in as a like-for-like COVID replacement and will go straight into the XI when the fourth day gets underway from 11.00am today. He will keep wicket.

The rest of the England party follows health protocols of symptom reporting and subsequent testing if required. There are no other positive cases in the camp.
 
Gets all the luck doesn’t he.

Feel bad for Foakes.

Billings is an able replacement for now.
 
Time for all specialist keepers to hang their boots.
England should invest in Billings or even just play Buttler (at least he can play a Blinder once in a while).

I expect McCullum to get Foakes out of the side and bring in someone who can follow the bazball methodology.
 
Eng need to find a keeper that is better with the bat. Foakes is not a long term solution. Not sure if Billings is either.
 
Excellent support for his captain and pretty much put England in an impregnable position.
 
A very fine century. His 2nd in Tests.

Good wicket-keeper and a very useful batter.

Excellent cricketer this guy.
 
So pleased for him. I have been championing him for years when he was kept out by the old chumocracy. Now he is showing what he can do with gloves and bat.
 
Foakes 'overjoyed' to reach century

BEN FOAKES was naturally delighted after notching only his second Test century and first since his England debut on tour in Sri Lanka in 2018

"It was a bit of relief and I was overjoyed getting a Test hundred.

"I've had a bit of a wait and I realised how hard they are to come by, so I think I celebrated this one a bit more.

"It's obviously a great opportunity playing for England and you want to contribute as much as possible. When you go through a lean patch, it makes it even more special."
 
Tells you conventional test batting still has a place in BMac and Stokes era.

He has played his natural game since the summer started and has looked at home doing so. Not doing forced aggression, just traditional test match batting.
 
Does this inning put him in the conversation with Pant and Rizwan?

Well Pant is basically an aggressive batsman who can change a match rapidly, and also keeps wicket.

Foakes is a proper test keeper who can hit test centuries.
 
Well Pant is basically an aggressive batsman who can change a match rapidly, and also keeps wicket.

Foakes is a proper test keeper who can hit test centuries.

Looking at batting and keeping stats, Pant is further ahead in both departments. And he is 5 years younger.

Rizwan and Foakes are closer together in both departments. Though have to assume you don't consider Rizwan to be much since you did not mention him.

I personally think these three will be in the wicket keepers conversation for the next 3-4 years.
 
Looking at batting and keeping stats, Pant is further ahead in both departments. And he is 5 years younger.

Rizwan and Foakes are closer together in both departments. Though have to assume you don't consider Rizwan to be much since you did not mention him.

I personally think these three will be in the wicket keepers conversation for the next 3-4 years.
Foakes averages 33 after this century in hom conditions, he is nowhere near Rizwan and Pant both of whom have established themselves with performances in away conditions under pressure.

Foakes and Pant kept wickets for their respective teams on rank turners in India and Pant was the clear victor, Foakes dropped many chances.
 
Shame on previous England management for wasting this guy's few years he would have been a regular in the lineup had they kicked that average Jos butler out sooner.

Very happy for him and seems like a very humble man. Hopefully he scores a lot of centuries.
 
Looking at batting and keeping stats, Pant is further ahead in both departments. And he is 5 years younger.

Rizwan and Foakes are closer together in both departments. Though have to assume you don't consider Rizwan to be much since you did not mention him.

I personally think these three will be in the wicket keepers conversation for the next 3-4 years.

I didn't mention Rizwan because I don't know anything about him.

Which keeping stats?
 
Looking at batting and keeping stats, Pant is further ahead in both departments. And he is 5 years younger.

Rizwan and Foakes are closer together in both departments. Though have to assume you don't consider Rizwan to be much since you did not mention him.

I personally think these three will be in the wicket keepers conversation for the next 3-4 years.

If you think Pant is ahead in terms of keeping than Foakes then you haven't watched cricket.
 
Foakes averages 33 after this century in hom conditions, he is nowhere near Rizwan and Pant both of whom have established themselves with performances in away conditions under pressure.

Foakes and Pant kept wickets for their respective teams on rank turners in India and Pant was the clear victor, Foakes dropped many chances.

Pant has dropped many catches but he has improved.
 
They won't bring that up.

What I like about Foakes is that he is an old-school keeper, the like of which I have not seen in an England shirt since Jack Russell in the mid-nineties, before everyone started looking for their Gilchrist.

But Gilchrist was a one-off. To try to compete, England started making batters into keepers - G Jones, Prior, Bairstow, Buttler - instead of real keepers like Foster.
 
What I like about Foakes is that he is an old-school keeper, the like of which I have not seen in an England shirt since Jack Russell in the mid-nineties, before everyone started looking for their Gilchrist.

But Gilchrist was a one-off. To try to compete, England started making batters into keepers - G Jones, Prior, Bairstow, Buttler - instead of real keepers like Foster.

I was saying the same thing that Foakes should be England first choice keeper
 
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