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How on earth is England producing so many WK batsmen and all-rounders?![]()
UK is going through a golden period in sports, bar international soccer they are doing well in all sports including Olympics. Read somewhere they invested heavily in infra during mid 90's and are reaping it's fruits now from 6-8 years.
Will probably beat Buttler to the backup keeper position in the squad.
When was the last time Buttler played a FC game? and when are England announcing their squad for Ashes?
I think Ben Foakes should be in the England squad for the Ashes. Not only because Stokes, Foakes and Woakes will cause a lot of laughs, but it looks like he is doing well recently; Australia is a long way away from England so they will take a back up keeper to Bairstow in case of injury; it's a shoot out between Buttler and Foakes one would think.
There'll be an England lions tour at the same time so we'll have 30+ players in the country. Not sure if Buttler perhaps has a BBL contract lined up instead if he doesn't make the ashes squad.
No.Buttler and Bairstow are fine.If anything,Buttler should take the gloves instead of Bairstow.
Butler averages early 30 in test and FC whil Foakes is early 40s. Also he is a better gloveman than butler
I am not doubting Ben Foakes capability.But Jos Buttler has the ability to take the game away from the opposition single handedly like he did in the second test against Pakistan at Leeds.
Play Bairstow, Buttler and Foakes
Cook
Any opener (won’t make a difference)
Root
Bairstow
Buttler
Stokes
Foakes (WK)
Woakes/Curran
Rashid
Broad
Anderson
He is probably at the same level as Rizwan as a pure keeper. Not a bad batsman either, but unfortunately, you cannot keep Buttler out of the side.
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This should be England XI. Bairstow and Buttler have to take responsibility with the bat. They cant bat that low.
Rishabh Pant and Ben Stokes – two of the biggest names of their respective teams – got into an heated argument in the middle of the pitch during the change of overs during the opening day of the second Test at Chennai on Saturday. While Joe Root was bowling, Pant was seen trying to delay proceedings in order to ensure that was the last over of the day. But that was not to be as Olly Stone was allowed by the umpires to squeeze in another over.
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Why can’t you? He averages about 32 with the bat.
I have been saying for two years that the best England side has Foakes behind the sticks.
His glovework is superb and as error-free as it gets. Really think he should be England's No.1 keeper going forward. Besides the fact that its obvious that this Butler experiment in tests has been a massive failure, England (or any other side) should not underestimate the importance of a good wicketkeeper who makes minimal mistakes. One dropped catch can literally change the entire trajectory of a match. A 20 with the bat can oftentimes be far less detrimental to the team's cause than a dropped catch. And our boy Jos was literally dropping multiple sitters during the Ashes not too long ago.
There are only a handful of guys in the England side that merit a place based on what they bring to the table. And Foakes is one of them.
Agreed. Picking your best keeper is an attacking option because he will take runs from the opposition by taking catches, and the batters will be intimidated facing spinners and will stay in the crease because he can get the bails off quick. Whereas Buttler had managed just one stumping in fifty-odd tests. Yes, he *might* get a counterattacking hundred but he has done that just twice in eighty tests. While putting down catches.
Buttler for me, should have been dropped based on his glovework alone. But he made the selector's choice even easier by failing miserably with the bat.
Does this inning put him in the conversation with Pant and Rizwan?
Well Pant is basically an aggressive batsman who can change a match rapidly, and also keeps wicket.
Foakes is a proper test keeper who can hit test centuries.
Foakes averages 33 after this century in hom conditions, he is nowhere near Rizwan and Pant both of whom have established themselves with performances in away conditions under pressure.Looking at batting and keeping stats, Pant is further ahead in both departments. And he is 5 years younger.
Rizwan and Foakes are closer together in both departments. Though have to assume you don't consider Rizwan to be much since you did not mention him.
I personally think these three will be in the wicket keepers conversation for the next 3-4 years.
Looking at batting and keeping stats, Pant is further ahead in both departments. And he is 5 years younger.
Rizwan and Foakes are closer together in both departments. Though have to assume you don't consider Rizwan to be much since you did not mention him.
I personally think these three will be in the wicket keepers conversation for the next 3-4 years.
Looking at batting and keeping stats, Pant is further ahead in both departments. And he is 5 years younger.
Rizwan and Foakes are closer together in both departments. Though have to assume you don't consider Rizwan to be much since you did not mention him.
I personally think these three will be in the wicket keepers conversation for the next 3-4 years.
Foakes averages 33 after this century in hom conditions, he is nowhere near Rizwan and Pant both of whom have established themselves with performances in away conditions under pressure.
Foakes and Pant kept wickets for their respective teams on rank turners in India and Pant was the clear victor, Foakes dropped many chances.
I didn't mention Rizwan because I don't know anything about him.
Which keeping stats?
He is second on the list of most dismissals made before 25
Ah, I thought you meant percentage of chances taken or something.
They won't bring that up.
What I like about Foakes is that he is an old-school keeper, the like of which I have not seen in an England shirt since Jack Russell in the mid-nineties, before everyone started looking for their Gilchrist.
But Gilchrist was a one-off. To try to compete, England started making batters into keepers - G Jones, Prior, Bairstow, Buttler - instead of real keepers like Foster.
Ah, I thought you meant percentage of chances taken or something.
I didn't mention Rizwan because I don't know anything about him.
Which keeping stats?
He is second on the list of most dismissals made before 25