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India's office space market is poised for a record-breaking year in 2024, with demand projected to surpass 70 million square feet, according to a recent report by Savills India, a global real estate advisory firm. This surge is attributed to robust activity in key sectors such as IT-BPM, flexible workspaces, and BFSI.

Between January and September 2024, office space absorption reached 55.1 million square feet, marking a 30% year-on-year increase across six major cities. This figure aligns with the total absorption for the entire year of 2022, setting a new benchmark for the January-September period. With only 7 million square feet needed to exceed 2023's total, 2024 is on track to achieve absorption levels between 70 and 74 million square feet.

The third quarter of 2024 alone saw office absorption rise to 20.2 million square feet, a 28% increase from the same period in 2023.

https://www.cnbctv18.com/real-estat...ce-india-will-by-the-end-of-2024-19500441.htm
 

India’s data centre capacity to more than double to 2,100 MW by FY27: ICRA​

India’s data centre (DC) operational capacity is expected to more than double to 2,000-2,100 megawatts (MW) by 2026-27, up from 950 MW in 2023-24, according to a report by ratings agency ICRA released on Tuesday.


www.deccanherald.com

India’s data centre capacity to more than double by FY27

This forecast is supported by digital explosion, data localisation initiatives and will see an investment of Rs. 50,000-55,000 crore during FY25-FY27, the agency said
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@Bhaijaan
 
The only concern is the automobile sales with the rising inventory.. poor automobile sales are never good for economy..
 
JaDed said:
The only concern is the automobile sales with the rising inventory.. poor automobile sales are never good for economy..
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automobiles costs effectivley become 160% of their cost at minimum once they are on road. Tax terrorism to be honest.
 
https://www.business-standard.com/i...of-value-in-india-by-fy27-124111101661_1.html

Apple targets 32% of iPhone production and 26% of value in India by FY27​

Apple Inc and its vendors are aiming to assemble 32 per cent of iPhone’s global production volume and 26 per cent of its value in India by 2026-27 —a year after the final year of the of the five-year production-linked incentive (PLI) scheme for mobile devices.

This could translate into a production value of over $34 billion, assuming global iPhone sales remain consistent with 2023-24 (FY24) levels.

The estimates are based on discussions between Apple Inc and its vendors, along with central and state governments, regarding the assembly of products in India, according to sources familiar with the matter.


If they manage to hit 26% value addition that would be phenomenal. By this rate value addition in India will reach Parity with China by end 2030. If they do that it will be unbelievable considering India is coming from way way back and China is the leader since iPhone manufacturing started
 

India's exploding Solar Manufacturing Supply Chain​



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India is adding manufacturers in whole supply chain, including Ingot, Wafer, Cells, polysilicon. In few years expect most of internal demand to be fully met with locl manufacturing along with tens of billions of dollars in exports. Already making very good progress in exports

Exports have crossed $2 Billion from nowhere couple of years back​


https://twitter.com/x/status/1857436075368874447


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Not sure exactly how and why but lots of supply chains profitability like IPhone etc related profits are suddenly bumping in exponential fashion resulting in great numbers.is it after covid Chinese supply chain issues or something else ?
 
Vikram1989 said:
Not sure exactly how and why but lots of supply chains profitability like IPhone etc related profits are suddenly bumping in exponential fashion resulting in great numbers.is it after covid Chinese supply chain issues or something else ?
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Yeah after Covid supply chain issues. Having worked in projects which had supply chain in China (Nanjing) and Europe (three cities in Germany, one each in Austria, France and Netherlands), USA and very minor setup in India, things have progressed a lot in last three years. Now Indian site is closer to 15% value addition and expected to reach 50+ by end of that decade. This was unbelievable few years back. Just being part of the transformation has thought me so much about changing landscape. Expect India to play major role by end of this decade

Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia are other countries doing great and poised to take a central role in next decade. China will feel the heat. Just recently USA became the largest partner of Europe and will accelerate more in next few years
 
This thread doesn't answer the one pertinent question - if all this progress is being made then why are millions of Indians desperate to flee India?
 
Technics 1210 said:
This thread doesn't answer the one pertinent question - if all this progress is being made then why are millions of Indians desperate to flee India?
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Not everyone benefits from the advancements in India. Many illiterate and semi literate folk are not qualified enough to get lucrative jobs. Manual labor pays very little. So they get lured by human traffickers into paying them thousands so that they can take them to fioreign shores. All in the hope that they can earn in dollars and send money back to their families.
Some apply for asylum faking laugh worthy excuses to fool woke western countries.

India has too much population. Everyone cannot become engineers and doctors or tech guys. India still has 20% poverty rate. That means 30 crore people. That’s the population of entire United States living in poor conditions.
 
Technics 1210 said:
This thread doesn't answer the one pertinent question - if all this progress is being made then why are millions of Indians desperate to flee India?
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People will always migrate for better economic opportunities. 20% Kiwis live outside of NZ, a reasonable large portion of Europeans migrate to US for better opportunities. These are developed nations and still people migrate. India is still a developing country and will stay that for atleast another 25 years, so yes some people will migrate for better economic opportunities. Good for them and honestly good for India as most of the migrants (apart from those to Canada) are high skillled ones and help build good connections with India in their newly adopted countries
 
SportsWarrior said:
People will always migrate for better economic opportunities. 20% Kiwis live outside of NZ, a reasonable large portion of Europeans migrate to US for better opportunities.
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Not only due to economic reasons people prefer work life balance too.currently a skilled 2 plus software engineer makes almost 9 to 11 lakhs per annum.But we know the level of pressure and work life imbalance will drive few away.Most of the current skilled employees as a kids must have dreamt of settling outside as we are not good economically. Now kids will not aspire as much as we have done 25/30 years ago due to economic situations alone.They know they have a choice in case of economic benefits perspective unlike us. In another 20 to 30 years of time , we should target few premiere educational institutions .They will stop the student migration to an extent .indian companies never created any issues on trust,security, backstabbing etc.Western nations knows our companies are crooked (like any other company) but trustworthy unlike Chinese ones where they saw quite a significant issues on the counts of spying , opaqueness.
 
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Technics 1210 said:
This thread doesn't answer the one pertinent question - if all this progress is being made then why are millions of Indians desperate to flee India?
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If you look at social hierarchy as a Pyramid, then Bharat’s bottom end of the pyramid is obviously quite huge and for a lot of those people odds of turning it around are a lot better in another country with less competition.

Besides it’s still 2024 and we are just 80 years post independence and 40 years post economic liberalisation. The western countries have centuries of momentum in their favour. Yet, we are rapidly improving and we will not take centuries to recover. In just a matter of decades, the kind of growth we have seen has been incredible. We are building roads, dams, highways, ports , railway and airports at record time. All we need is a few more decades of this momentum and the transformation will be huge.
 
Technics 1210 said:
This thread doesn't answer the one pertinent question - if all this progress is being made then why are millions of Indians desperate to flee India?
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Bharat's unstoppable rise is a good news for entire South Asia. World needs a benevolent super power, something it hasn't seen since the glorious days of Ram-Rajya.

A strong Bharat is as much yours as mine brother, its for the whole of humanity. So lets shed this jealousy and celebrate the rise, together. <3
 

Apple achieved $10 billion in iPhone production in India during Apr-Oct 2024. $7 billion worth of iPhones were exported. This is a 37% increase compared to the same period last year. Oct 2024 saw over $2 billion in iPhone production.​


https://twitter.com/x/status/1860980639245455457

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-india-courtesy-pli/articleshow/115654735.cms

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SportsWarrior said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1861761782076895341

This is expected to be expanded to 100GWh in a decade or so
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I see its a 100 million usd project. Really a game changer in different field .

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Ola Electric to invest $100 million in gigafactory for indigenous lithium-ion batteries | Bengaluru News - Times of India

Ola Electric founder Bhavish Aggarwal announces $100 million investment in gigafactory to produce indigenous lithium-ion batteries, aiming to power electric vehicles with in-house battery cells by next year. Company's IPO approved by SEBI for Rs 5,500 crore.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com timesofindia.indiatimes.com
 
Vikram1989 said:
I see its a 100 million usd project. Really a game changer in different field .

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Ola Electric to invest $100 million in gigafactory for indigenous lithium-ion batteries | Bengaluru News - Times of India

Ola Electric founder Bhavish Aggarwal announces $100 million investment in gigafactory to produce indigenous lithium-ion batteries, aiming to power electric vehicles with in-house battery cells by next year. Company's IPO approved by SEBI for Rs 5,500 crore.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com timesofindia.indiatimes.com
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$100 million is as of now. They have a plan to extend it to 100GWh which would cover close to 70% of India's projected need by end of 2030. Even if they reach say 50GWh it would be a tremendous achievement. Let's see.
 

www.yahoo.com

India prepares new infrastructure with first-ever high-speed railway test track — with speeds reaching over 140 mph

It features 136 bridges — including seven large ones — and four train stations built with resilient, corrosion-resistant materials.
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India prepares new infrastructure with first-ever high-speed railway test track — with speeds reaching over 140 mph​

India is building its first-ever high-speed railway test track, adding further shape to the country's massive 7 trillion rupee (nearly $83 billion) investment in track infrastructure over the next decade.

Railway Supply reported news of the forthcoming test track and branded it a "milestone achievement" for the nation. It will be operated by India's state-run railway system, Indian Railways, and comes with a price tag of 8.2 billion rupees (just over $97 million).

The approximately 37-mile track will be able to support trials for bullet trains that go over 140 mph. Its location is about 50 miles away from Jaipur, and the test track will also support testing for the semi-high-speed and metro trains that constitute much of India's current daily passenger service.

The aim will be to use the test track to incorporate new technologies like bullet trains while avoiding any disruption in the already-existing train infrastructure. The test track's scope is expansive. It features 136 bridges — including seven large ones — and four train stations built with resilient, corrosion-resistant materials.

The tracks include several specialized loops tailored to test specific aspects, such as an 8-mile loop designed for high-speed testing and a 4.3-mile loop to assess damaged tracks.

Railway Supply asserted that the test track will enable Indian Railways to do all testing domestically, thereby reducing the need for external facilities and optimizing regular service in India.

India's commitment to high-speed rail is great news for the planet. A study on China, a global leader in bullet trains, showed that rail produces just one-seventh of the carbon pollution of air transit per passenger. India has already bought land for the forthcoming bullet trains.​

 
Champ_Pal said:

www.yahoo.com

India prepares new infrastructure with first-ever high-speed railway test track — with speeds reaching over 140 mph

It features 136 bridges — including seven large ones — and four train stations built with resilient, corrosion-resistant materials.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

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India prepares new infrastructure with first-ever high-speed railway test track — with speeds reaching over 140 mph​

India is building its first-ever high-speed railway test track, adding further shape to the country's massive 7 trillion rupee (nearly $83 billion) investment in track infrastructure over the next decade.

Railway Supply reported news of the forthcoming test track and branded it a "milestone achievement" for the nation. It will be operated by India's state-run railway system, Indian Railways, and comes with a price tag of 8.2 billion rupees (just over $97 million).

The approximately 37-mile track will be able to support trials for bullet trains that go over 140 mph. Its location is about 50 miles away from Jaipur, and the test track will also support testing for the semi-high-speed and metro trains that constitute much of India's current daily passenger service.

The aim will be to use the test track to incorporate new technologies like bullet trains while avoiding any disruption in the already-existing train infrastructure. The test track's scope is expansive. It features 136 bridges — including seven large ones — and four train stations built with resilient, corrosion-resistant materials.

The tracks include several specialized loops tailored to test specific aspects, such as an 8-mile loop designed for high-speed testing and a 4.3-mile loop to assess damaged tracks.

Railway Supply asserted that the test track will enable Indian Railways to do all testing domestically, thereby reducing the need for external facilities and optimizing regular service in India.

India's commitment to high-speed rail is great news for the planet. A study on China, a global leader in bullet trains, showed that rail produces just one-seventh of the carbon pollution of air transit per passenger. India has already bought land for the forthcoming bullet trains.​

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Nice but still no bullet trains. It’s been decades of false hope.
 
SportsWarrior said:
Bullet trains are over rated and extreme vanity project for India. We will never break even. In china, which is the undisputed leader in high speed rails, is now heavily in debt

asia.nikkei.com

China Railway's debt nears $900bn under expansion push

Support to boost economy drives state high-speed train operator deeper into red
asia.nikkei.com asia.nikkei.com
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I am not an expert but after all the tax the government collects directly and indirectly, they have to give it back for public welfare and after education, healthcare, public infrastructure I would say public transport is right up there where the government has a responsibility to contribute rather than looking at it to make profits only.

I doubt a high speed rail network connecting major Bharatiya cities cannot be profitable however. Look at the airfares they’re going through the roof. How many middle class people can afford to make multiple air trips to their home town during the year? Also you have to take into account the additional costs with air travel. Airports are usually based far away from the final destination and taxi drivers charge a lot of money for even small distance trips from the airport. As the nation grows the demand for travel will grow exponentially and I highly doubt the aviation industry can cater to the demand that trains can meet.
 
Only good things on my last visit to India is digital economy and highways, that alone will be the positives of BJP when future generations see back.

Having said that all issues which were there 10 years ago esp wrt civic sense, healthcare remain.

There are three India’s.. one for rich one for middleclass and one for poor, yes it’s there everywhere but the difference is huge.
 
Bhaijaan said:
I am not an expert but after all the tax the government collects directly and indirectly, they have to give it back for public welfare and after education, healthcare, public infrastructure I would say public transport is right up there where the government has a responsibility to contribute rather than looking at it to make profits only.

I doubt a high speed rail network connecting major Bharatiya cities cannot be profitable however. Look at the airfares they’re going through the roof. How many middle class people can afford to make multiple air trips to their home town during the year? Also you have to take into account the additional costs with air travel. Airports are usually based far away from the final destination and taxi drivers charge a lot of money for even small distance trips from the airport. As the nation grows the demand for travel will grow exponentially and I highly doubt the aviation industry can cater to the demand that trains can meet.
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It’s not profitable anywhere including China which has a mammoth rail infrastructure and expertise. What India needs is semi speed rail networks. Indian taxes are high but still no where near to china’s either I in tax/GDP ratio or absolute amount. China has five times Indian GDP, higher tax to gdp ratio, an autocratic single party government, best rail infrastructure, cheap and skilled labor, and a huge population and still not able to make it to work profitably. They can pour money and provide it like a service as they have five to six times the tax money available per person compared to India. As of now, India cannot compete.

As of now India should concentrate on building semi speed rail networks like vande Bharath and hope we have built up capital and capability by the time we have a bigger GDP. It will happen in our life time, just not right now.
 
Airbus will be the biggest thing for India because they are so much better at it right now.
 
JaDed said:
Only good things on my last visit to India is digital economy and highways, that alone will be the positives of BJP when future generations see back.

Having said that all issues which were there 10 years ago esp wrt civic sense, healthcare remain.

There are three India’s.. one for rich one for middleclass and one for poor, yes it’s there everywhere but the difference is huge.
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The stark difference will remain for the foreseeable future. India has 40 crore dirt poor people. While poverty levels have come down significantly in the last 2 decades, India with its huge population will dominate all indices for all negative reasons.

No poor person on the street will care about any civic sense when the foremost thing on his mind is how to feed his family. Poor still have the most kids and they are stuck in a vicious circle. I had a guy who was taking care of my elderly parents. He was only 23. He is from a dirt poor background and used to tell about his difficulties a lot. He got married 2.5 yrs ago and already has 2 kids. We donated a lot of stuff for him like bed, chairs, TV, utensils etc for his new family. Now he is seeking more financial help and asking for more money. No one can teach certain people the value of planning. I am pretty sure there are millions like the one I described.
 
Champ_Pal said:
The stark difference will remain for the foreseeable future. India has 40 crore dirt poor people. While poverty levels have come down significantly in the last 2 decades, India with its huge population will dominate all indices for all negative reasons.

No poor person on the street will care about any civic sense when the foremost thing on his mind is how to feed his family. Poor still have the most kids and they are stuck in a vicious circle. I had a guy who was taking care of my elderly parents. He was only 23. He is from a dirt poor background and used to tell about his difficulties a lot. He got married 2.5 yrs ago and already has 2 kids. We donated a lot of stuff for him like bed, chairs, TV, utensils etc for his new family. Now he is seeking more financial help and asking for more money. No one can teach certain people the value of planning. I am pretty sure there are millions like the one I described.
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Unfortunately true, social media and cheap entertainment has made them even more distracted though.
 
SportsWarrior said:

Apple to begin assembling AirPods in India from early next year​


www.hardwarezone.com.sg

Apple to begin assembling AirPods in India from early next year

The AirPods will be the second Apple product to be assembled in India. #airpods #india #apple
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Almost 30 percent of Apple production will be shifted from China to India. We should target more as trump will be there
 
Question to @Bhaijaan - your positive tracker says Bharat. When will your country leave the name that was lent to them by the British and adopt the name in your thread title?
 
Slim said:
Question to @Bhaijaan - your positive tracker says Bharat. When will your country leave the name that was lent to them by the British and adopt the name in your thread title?
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Bharat is already our official name as mentioned in constitution.
 
Slim said:
Why do you still use India? I never see indian govt using bharat anywhere??
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The other name is the English name
Bharat is the Hindi name.

Both names are used interchangeably in the official communications. When have you ever read those?
 
Bhaijaan said:
The other name is the English name
Bharat is the Hindi name.

Both names are used interchangeably in the official communications. When have you ever read those?
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English name? What is Pakistan’s english and urdu name? Lol
Turkey wasnt afraid to call itself Turkiye. Why are Indians hiding behind this “english” name facade?

India’s name before was Hindustan in Mughal era from what i remember. Why not use your actual names?
 
Slim said:
English name? What is Pakistan’s english and urdu name? Lol
Turkey wasnt afraid to call itself Turkiye. Why are Indians hiding behind this “english” name facade?

India’s name before was Hindustan in Mughal era from what i remember. Why not use your actual names?
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The word Pak is a Persian word. Urdu is an Indian language with a good amount of Persian and Arabic words.
 
Slim said:
English name? What is Pakistan’s english and urdu name? Lol
Turkey wasnt afraid to call itself Turkiye. Why are Indians hiding behind this “english” name facade?

India’s name before was Hindustan in Mughal era from what i remember. Why not use your actual names?
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Logically, it should be Hindustan, but our Sanatanis treat it like a guilty pleasure. Appreciated in private, avoided in public. :inti
 
Slim said:
English name? What is Pakistan’s english and urdu name? Lol
Turkey wasnt afraid to call itself Turkiye. Why are Indians hiding behind this “english” name facade?

India’s name before was Hindustan in Mughal era from what i remember. Why not use your actual names?
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A lot of countries have 'English' names that the world uses, and 'native ' names that their people use. Greece-Helas, Spain-Espana, Czech Republic- Ceska, Hungary-Magyar etc are all examples. Don't see why India and Bharat/Hindustan cannot co-exist similarly, and why Indians should be feeling small about it?
 
Bhaijaan said:
No bullet trains for Bharat but the indegenous Vande Bharat trains infrastructure is being developed at a decent pace. Vande Bharat trains are the future.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1874655650011308035
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Not just top speeds, Trains running at this average speed is all that Bharat needs. It wil be under two hours between BLR and Chennai, and around 3 hours between BLR and Hyd, under an hour between BLR and Mysore, similarly in other key routes. Cheaper to operate, affordable fares, indigenous technology, good for everything
 
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