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BREAKING NEWS: Multiple Blasts & Firing inside PAF Base & PNS Mehran, KHI

PP don't take it so personally. You know what I mean, these tribesmen have always been out of jurisdiction and have acted on their own. Much more so then even the MQM in Karachi, what have they done in recent times?

I don't doubt there historical significance for Pakistan and I'm sure their descendants have done many a good things for Pakistan. But as it stands now, the Waziristans and further are practically useless and bring us nothing but harm.
 
It's all well and fine to put the military under the microscope and heavily criticize the decisions our establishments have taken. It's another to condone the murder of your countrymen as "a reaction".
 
PP don't take it so personally. You know what I mean, these tribesmen have always been out of jurisdiction and have acted on their own. Much more so then even the MQM in Karachi, what have they done in recent times?

I don't doubt there historical significance for Pakistan and I'm sure their descendants have done many a good things for Pakistan. But as it stands now, the Waziristans and further are practically useless and bring us nothing but harm.





let them become part of afghanistan then as they all would dearly love and afghanistan would love their land back

this is the exact attitude which envokes them to hate pakistan...they are being droned and shelled by america and our own army! dollars for blood...if this is the lacksy daisy attitude of the pakistani people towards the dronings then you cant expect much

a friend is cherished for life by every pukhtun and an enemy is tormented for life...

also when u say 5th century...they follow their code of ethics which is pukhtunwali...pretty civillised code aswell...they have kept their traditions and value them...

people will say im a complete nationalist which is partly true but i will also defend anybody who is being murdered...the poor naval officers payed a price in this dollars for blood act earlier...and im not condoning anything...no way a bunch of tribals will have with such sophistication gotten into the compound without anybody knowing unless somebody on the inside helped them in...our secret service was voted number 1 lol...surely we all know they are not THAT incompetant
 
On the contrary I am starting to think you are either a liberal fascist, brainless PPP jiyala, bhatta collecting Altaf's cheyla, or a military brat...take your pick...

yup.
Im a Liberal fascist, brainless PPP jiyala, bhatta collecting Altaf's cheyla or a military brat living in America, who happens to have no interest in Pakistani politics.


btw, idk half the words you said. :))
 
It's all well and fine to put the military under the microscope and heavily criticize the decisions our establishments have taken. It's another to condone the murder of your countrymen as "a reaction".

No commendation here, only pity...
 
saad dont bring shahid afridi into this...it will become a flippin cricket debate on this thread...which is uneeded
 
PP don't take it so personally. You know what I mean, these tribesmen have always been out of jurisdiction and have acted on their own. Much more so then even the MQM in Karachi, what have they done in recent times?

I don't doubt there historical significance for Pakistan and I'm sure their descendants have done many a good things for Pakistan. But as it stands now, the Waziristans and further are practically useless and bring us nothing but harm.

What you on about bro- you Indian?

Wazirastan is part of Pakistan.

They are our brothers and when they are attacked- we are attacked!
 
What you on about bro- you Indian?

Seriously? Are you really serious right now?

I've read comments from some of you who'd wish Karachi would "just disappear". I get flack for wishing Waziristan never existed? Whatever.
 
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I find it hilarious that first GoAT called me an indian and now Haroom is calling him indian. Guys lets stop calling each other indians or terrorist sympathizers.
 
Pakistan's security forces are facing a tremendeous task to get rid of Taleban, sectarian, and Al Qaeda groups from within Pakistan. Today's attack also shows these guys are capable and willing to target both military and civilian at will.
 
Only a matter of time before the real Indian stood up :saqi
 
Seriously? Are you really serious right now?

I've read comments from some of you who'd wish Karachi would "just disappear". I get flack for wishing Waziristan never existed? Whatever.

Well- that is wrong aswel.

However, two wrongs don't make a right.:afridi
 
Pakistan's security forces are facing a tremendeous task to get rid of Taleban, sectarian, and Al Qaeda groups from within Pakistan. Today's attack also shows these guys are capable and willing to target both military and civilian at will.

Talking of Indian :yk

Nothing against Indian Pakpassioners
 
lol insaftak and poisons posts are funny

but i agree...we should stop calling eachother indians and terrorist sympathaziers


goat i have no idea who wants karachi to not exist

but it doesnt make it right for you to want waziristan to be wiped off paks map either...
 
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Haroom:

I don't know who you are or what you want. If it is an argument, I can tell you I don't have time. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you take your post back now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you.
 
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insaftak sounds just like the Indians on twitter. Ridiculous. Shut your mouth unless you have updates on the situation.

I don't remember calling you an Indian. Quote it.

ok maybe you didn't call me indian but you did say i sound like the indians. which implies that I am indian or supporting indian agenda.
 
ok maybe you didn't call me indian but you did say i sound like the indians. which implies that I am indian or supporting indian agenda.

Completely different and not at all. I'm saying your generally happy attitude towards the event was not dissimilar to tweets by Indians.
 
Completely different and not at all. I'm saying your generally happy attitude towards the event was not dissimilar to tweets by Indians.

How the hell can you say my attitude toward the situation was happy. I am just as pissed and sad just like the rest of pakistanis. What a pathetic attempt to suggest that those who want a change in our current policy were happy and enjoying the terrorist attack today.

Sharam Kero Yaar.
 
Your blatant attempts at vote gathering and aura of moral superiority was there for all to see. Baseless accusations against the army (given we knew very little about the events at the time) were more then enough proof of your motives. I'm not the only one who noticed you were far too happy to look at this and say "I told you so! I told you so!".
 
This thread is LOCO, I feel hammered by reading bitterness in this thread.

RIP to all people that have passed!

@GOAT Not all Pakistanis abroad have similar views as yours for annihilation of Waziristan and India. Their primitive culture or way of llife wasn't a problem prior to 9/11 for us Pakistanis but now these coordinated and carefully planned bombings are now hurting each and every one of us.

I just hope Allah shows everybody right path rather from being hoodwinked in to extremism or to the point of corruption for selling its own countrymen to foreign interests for a piece of land abroad...
I will end by advising all to pray for all men/women in charge of protecting Pakistan. May Allah guide us all and protect those souls who have sworn to protect with their lives
 
Your blatant attempts at vote gathering and aura of moral superiority was there for all to see. Baseless accusations against the army (given we knew very little about the events at the time) were more then enough proof of your motives. I'm not the only one who noticed you were far too happy to look at this and say "I told you so! I told you so!".

Lets Just leave this to that and maybe we could just stop calling each other indians. I guess we could agree on that.
 
@GOAT & insaftak

There is a just a linguistics indifference. Calm down... Some people abroad well integrated in their communities whether they are nationalists or naturalized do not dig Pakistani rhetoric.

We are doing exactly what enemy wants from us, a disorganized and a uncivil public.
 
Haroom:

I don't know who you are or what you want. If it is an argument, I can tell you I don't have time. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you take your post back now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you.

Bring it on- you Indian :wasim
 
agree with what areesh said

apart from religion there isnt normally much else that seperates both sets

they both understand eachothers language...

north indians look like north pakistanis
south pakistanis look like south indians

theres a gujarat in pak...gujarat in india
punjab in pak punjab in india

the one difference is of course the pathan belt and considering not many care then the above should lay claim to areesh' statement
 
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This is a problem with many folks living in Pakistan. Everyone expects other to either follow or listen to one's own view. If you deviate then you could be considered as Indians or Americans. For example, if I support drone attacks then I am an American. If I support actions against fundamental or radical organization then I am an Indian. Its like everyone has already made up their mind about different situations. Reminds of genders in Urdu; everyone word is either mas. or fem.

Its important that if people of Pakistan wants to be united and target the evil or Terrorism and radicalism in Pakistan, everyone regardless of their backgrounds must be united and put their differences aside.

BTW, I am not a Pakistani, I guess it has already been established by many of you.
 
This is a problem with many folks living in Pakistan. Everyone expects other to either follow or listen to one's own view. If you deviate then you could be considered as Indians or Americans. For example, if I support drone attacks then I am an American. If I support actions against fundamental or radical organization then I am an Indian. Its like everyone has already made up their mind about different situations. Reminds of genders in Urdu; everyone word is either mas. or fem.

Its important that if people of Pakistan wants to be united and target the evil or Terrorism and radicalism in Pakistan, everyone regardless of their backgrounds must be united and put their differences aside.

BTW, I am not a Pakistani, I guess it has already been established by many of you.

:yk

Leave Pakistan alone mate- none of your business! :hafeez
 
This is a problem with many folks living in Pakistan. Everyone expects other to either follow or listen to one's own view. If you deviate then you could be considered as Indians or Americans. For example, if I support drone attacks then I am an American. If I support actions against fundamental or radical organization then I am an Indian. Its like everyone has already made up their mind about different situations. Reminds of genders in Urdu; everyone word is either mas. or fem.

Its important that if people of Pakistan wants to be united and target the evil or Terrorism and radicalism in Pakistan, everyone regardless of their backgrounds must be united and put their differences aside.

BTW, I am not a Pakistani, I guess it has already been established by many of you.

Yeh baaat :saqi
 
:yk

Leave Pakistan alone mate- none of your business! :hafeez

YOU ARE BEING OUT OF ORDER HERE. He is 100% correct on UNITY. I don't know if you are mentally incapacitated or just trying hard but God I hope you dont breed with that single digit IQ of yours!
 
haroom dude no need to say that to saqlain he didnt say much wrong

stop making personal digs at eachother and please discuss the thread at hand everybody

makes us all look very uncivillised and paindoo
 
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YOU ARE BEING OUT OF ORDER HERE. He is 100% correct on UNITY. I don't know if you are mentally incapacitated or just trying hard but God I hope you dont breed with that single digit IQ of yours!

He is a fan of Zaid hamid. Comes from the same school of thought i.e. All our problems are the wrongdoings of Indians and Jews and as Muslims, it is inconceivable that we can be at fault here.

What do you expect then?
 
From Arianna

KARACHI, Pakistan — Islamist militants stormed a naval base in the Pakistani city of Karachi late Sunday, destroying a U.S.-supplied surveillance aircraft, firing rockets and battling commandos sent to subdue them in one of the most brazen attacks in years, officials said.

At least four navy personnel were killed and nine wounded in fighting at the Naval Station Mehran that was going on more than four hours after the strike began, said navy spokesman Irfan ul Haq. He did not know how many militants had been killed or wounded.

Between 10 and 15 attackers entered the high-security facility before splitting up into smaller groups, setting off explosions and hiding in the sprawling facility, he said.

"We are receiving fire from different directions," said another spokesman, Salman Ali.

The coordinated strike rocked the country's largest city just under three weeks after the death of Osama bin Laden in an American raid on the northwestern garrison city of Abbottabad, an event al-Qaida allied extremists here have vowed to avenge.

The unilateral American raid triggered a strong backlash against Washington, which is trying to support Pakistan in its fight against militants, as well as rare domestic criticism against the armed forces for failing to detect or prevent the operation.

The fact that militants were able to enter one of the country's largest military bases is another embarrassing blow to the army and will raise questions over whether the attackers had inside information. That they targeted a U.S. supplied aircraft draws attention to American aid to the military, something generals here do not talk about, fearing criticism from the county's fiercely anti-American population.

After heavy American prodding, security forces launched several operations against militants in their heartland close to the border with Afghanistan over the last three years. The extremists have struck back against police and army targets around the country.

No group claimed responsibility for the attack. But the Pakistani Taliban, an al-Qaida allied network which has previously launched attacks in Karachi, has pledged to retaliate for the death of bin Laden, and has claimed responsibility for several bloody attacks since then.

Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani condemned the attack, saying such a "cowardly act of terror could not deter the commitment of the government and people of Pakistan to fight terrorism."

Sunday's raid appeared to be the most serious against the military since October 2009, when militants attacked the army headquarters close to the capital, Islamabad. They held dozens hostage in a 22-hour standoff that left 23 people dead, including nine militants.

The raid began with at least three loud explosions, which were heard by people who live around the naval air station. It was unclear what caused the explosions, but they set off raging fires that could be seen from far in the distance.

An Associated Press reporting team outside the base heard at least six other explosions and sporadic gunfire.

Authorities sent in several dozen navy and police commandos to battle the attackers, who responded with gunfire and grenades, said Salman Ali. At least one airplane in a hangar – a P-3C Orion, a maritime surveillance aircraft that was recently given to Pakistan by the U.S. – was destroyed, he said.

The United States handed over two Orions to the Pakistani navy at a ceremony at the base in June 2010 attended by 250 Pakistani and American officials, according to the website of the U.S. Central Command. It said by late 2012, Pakistan would have eight of the planes.

At least one media report said a team of American technicians were working on the aircraft at the time of the strike, but U.S. Embassy spokesman Alberto Rodriguez said no Americans were on the base. Ali also stated there was no foreigners inside the base.

Karachi has not been spared the violence sweeping the country, despite being in the south far from the northwest where militancy is at its strongest. In April, militants bombed three buses taking navy employees to work, killing at least nine people.

The Pakistani Taliban and other militant groups have little direct public support, but the army and the government have struggled to convince the people of the need for armed operations against them. The militants' identification with Islam, strong anti-American rhetoric and support for insurgents in Afghanistan resonates with some in the country.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/22/militants-attack-pakistan_n_865301.html
 
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He is a fan of Zaid hamid. Comes from the same school of thought i.e. All our problems are the wrongdoings of Indians and Jews and as Muslims, it is inconceivable that we can be at fault here.

What do you expect then?

also theres nothing wrong with zaid hamid

the man has the guts to say these things

hes a patriot
 
Folks, stay on topic and quit with the personal remarks.
 
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other sources

Q+A-Pakistan's nuclear weapons, safe or not?
Edited by Chris Allbritton

ISLAMABAD May 23 (Reuters) - An assault on a naval base in Karachi is the latest militant attack on military installations in Pakistan, raising fears about the safety of the country's nuclear arsenal.

Pakistan has the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world and in a decade could pass France as the fourth-largest nuclear power, so such brazen attacks on secure military establishments -- militants also attacked the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi in 2009 -- give Western leaders nightmares about militants acquiring nuclear materials, or worse, an entire weapon.

Pakistan first tested nuclear weapons in 1998 in response to tests by old rival and neighbour India.

WHAT IS THE U.S. POSITION?

President Barack Obama said in 2009 he was confident about the security of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal although he was "gravely concerned" about the overall situation in Pakistan because of its weak government.

Despite that, there is a growing concern among U.S. officials that militants might try to snatch a nuclear weapon in transit or insert sympathisers into laboratories or fuel-production facilities.

Pakistani analysts see the mixed signals from the United States as adding to pressure on the government, which the United States wants to see getting to grips with the militant threat.

The killing of Osama bin Laden on May 2 just a couple of hours drive from the capital in the military town of Abbottabad raises fears that he had help from friends in Pakistan's military or spy agencies -- suggesting that al Qaeda sympathisers might also be among those guarding Pakistan's nukes.

WHAT IS PAKISTAN'S POSITION?

Pakistan rejects such fears over its nuclear weapons as "misplaced and unfounded" saying it has very robust, multilayered command and control systems.

Many Pakistanis believe the ultimate U.S. aim is to confiscate Pakistan's nuclear weapons and analysts say reports of U.S. fears about nuclear security fuel such conspiracy theories.

WHO CONTROLS THE WEAPONS?

Pakistan does not release details of its nuclear arsenal. Estimates vary on the size of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal, although analysts suggest Pakistan has between 60 and 120.

The weapons are under control of the military's Strategic Plans Division (SPD). During a period of political instability last year the division boosted security at nuclear facilities and launched a public relations offensive to counter what Pakistan regards as scaremongering over nuclear weapon security.

Pakistan maintains there is no chance of Islamist militants getting their hands on atomic weapons.

The SPD is overseen by the National Command Authority headed by the president and with the prime minister as its vice chairman. Main cabinet ministers and the heads of the army, navy and air force are also members of the NCA, which controls all aspects of the nuclear programme, including deployment and, if ever necessary, their use.

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS?

The weapons, designed to be delivered by missiles or fighter-bombers, are stored at secure, secret locations, mostly in Punjab province, analysts say, well away from Taliban heartlands in the northwest, although there have been increasing instances of militant attacks and infiltration into the province.

Other nuclear facilities, including the main Kahuta nuclear weapons laboratory, are near the relatively secure capital, Islamabad.

WHO GUARDS THEM?

Pakistan has 10,000 soldiers guarding its facilities and the SPD has its own independent intelligence section. Staff working in nuclear facilities go through an exhaustive vetting process, involving political, moral and financial checks and psychological testing for 10,000 staff working in nuclear facilities, and security monitors keep close tabs on 2,000 scientists working in ultra-sensitive areas.

Although Pakistan's top nuclear scientist was involved in major nuclear proliferation before his network was uncovered in 2004, no conspiracy or plot related to Pakistan's nuclear facilities had ever been uncovered, the SPD has said.

Pakistan's controls are such that orders to abort a mission involving a nuclear weapon could be given at the last second. Even if a rogue pilot were to fire a missile he would not have the code to arm the warhead, according to the SPD.

Analysts say Pakistan is believed to have developed its own Permissive Action Link system, modeled on one used in the United States, to electronically lock nuclear weapons. It also relies on a range of other measures including physical security, separation of warheads from missiles and warheads from explosive devices.
 
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YOU ARE BEING OUT OF ORDER HERE. He is 100% correct on UNITY. I don't know if you are mentally incapacitated or just trying hard but God I hope you dont breed with that single digit IQ of yours!

Dude, have you had an argument with your wife :yk

Calm down..breath in, breath out...repeat process a few times.

I have mo grudge against saqlain but in the past he portrayed himself as Pakistani and spread negative propaganda against Pakistan.
 
Dawn article

Terrorists attack Navy airbase in Karachi, destroy three aircraft
By S. Raza Hassan | From the Newspaper
(5 hours ago) Today

KARACHI, May 22: Armed militants stormed into a naval airbase here on Sunday night, destroyed three aircraft and killed at least five people — four navy personnel and a foreigner whose nationality could not be ascertained.

According to sources, 12 to 15 militants managed to sneak into the PNS Mehran base, which is used for naval aviation, from three directions and carried out a simultaneous attack on different targets.

It could not be confirmed if they had faced any resistance or had used some disguise while entering the premises.

The militants also took some Chinese personnel hostage in a building inside the base, which was subsequently surrounded by naval commandos, the sources said.

The PAF Museum located near the base is visited by a large number of people on Sundays.

The militants either placed detonators on the aircraft present in hangars in PNS Mehran or used rockets to blow them up.

Witnesses said they had heard three or four explosions, but another blast took place in the base at around 1am, turning the
whole place into an inferno. The blast which was heard as far as Rashid Minhas Road spread panic among residents.

The fire and smoke were visible from the Sharea Faisal and intense gunfire was being heard.

The sources said at least two P-3C Orion aircraft and a helicopter were destroyed in the attack.

A naval official, who wanted to remain anonymous, said it appeared that the aircraft fleet was the target of the attack.

During the entire episode, the base continued to resonate with gunfire.

A spokesman for the navy confirmed the destruction of one aircraft and injuries to two navy personnel. He said SSG Commandos had also taken part in the operation.

Five firemen were injured while trying to put out the fire.

The sources said that four militants were killed and two injured suspects were arrested by law-enforcement personnel while they were trying to flee from a seminary located near the Karsaz flyover.

Local law-enforcement officials, including police and Rangers, reached the place but were not allowed inside the base for some time.

At around 1.30am, the base authorities allowed some private ambulances inside the premises after searching them, giving an indication about casualties.

But the ambulances were stopped after another blast, followed by gunfire.

Till early Monday morning, intermittent gunfire was being heard outside the base.

Hundreds of ambulances were parked outside the base.

Army personnel were patrolling the Sharea Faisal as the operation continued in the base. Media personnel outside the base saw smoke and red dots flying in the night amid sound of gunfire.

Till the filing of this report, none of the injured or bodies had been taken to the Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre. A PAF hospital and the navy’s PNS Rahat are also located in the vicinity of the base, but it was not clear if any of the injured had been admitted there.

On April 28, a bus carrying naval personnel was attacked at the entrance of the PNS Mehran, killing five people.

Two days earlier, two navy buses were attacked by terrorists in the DHA and Baldia, leaving four people dead and 56 others injured.

The banned Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan and Baloch separatists had claimed the responsibility of the attacks.
 
Dude, have you had an argument with your wife :yk

Calm down..breath in, breath out...repeat process a few times.

I have mo grudge against saqlain but in the past he portrayed himself as Pakistani and spread negative propaganda against Pakistan.

To your first moronic assumption - No, I don't and I won't expand on this issue any more with more baloney from my side...

Point noted about his previous actions. I apologize for my response. RAW is very actively and so is MOSSAD, involved with electronic warfare to spread lies on forums, youtube or any other social networking site, so know this I am with you 100%! Just log on to any main stream media site and read the comments from start to beginning and they will be against Pakistani nuclear weapons and anti-Islamic propagation.
 
British Brainwashing company's artice:

Pakistan: Militants attack Karachi naval air base

The BBC's Shahzeb Jillani says this attack will be deeply embarrassing for Pakistan
Continue reading the main story
Taliban Conflict

Gunmen have attacked a military base in the Pakistani city of Karachi, killing at least 11 soldiers, officials say.

The attackers are now holding hostages, including Chinese military personnel, at the Mehran naval aviation base.

Eight hours after the incident began, blasts and gunfire were heard as security forces brought in more troops and tackled the militants.

The Pakistani Taliban says it is responsible for carrying out the attack.

"It was the revenge of martyrdom of Osama Bin Laden. It was the proof that we are still united and powerful," Ehsanullah Ehsan told Reuters news agency.

The Taliban have vowed to avenge the killing of Osama Bin Laden by US special forces on 2 May.

They have carried out several attacks since then.
Battle continues

On Sunday evening at 2230 (1730 GMT) militants stormed three hangars housing aircraft at the Mehran base, according to officials.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik said: "We have been able to confine them to one building and an operation is underway either to kill or capture them."
Continue reading the main story
At the scene
image of Syed Shoaib Hasan Syed Shoaib Hasan BBC News, Karachi

Clouds of black smoke billowed over the Mehran airbase when I arrived about half an hour after the attack began.

Ambulances with sirens wailing stood outside the gate of the compound, which was sealed soon after the attack began. They were joined by dozens of TV satellite trucks and journalists.

The base is located next to the Shahrah-e-Faisal - Karachi's main road - and many interested onlookers stopped their vehicles to find out what was happening.

In the distance, flames could be seen on the horizon beyond the perimeter wall.

Initially, there was intermittent gunfire. However, 15 minutes after I arrived on the scene there was an exchange of fire that lasted for several minutes.

We had to lie down on the ground, as the bullets and shrapnel whizzed over our heads.

Later, as I left the scene, several army trucks carrying dozens of army troops and armoured personnel carriers hurried into the compound to boost the troops battling the militants inside.

Their first targets were aircraft parked on the tarmac and equipment in nearby hangers, says the BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan at the scene.

Eyewitnesses say the militants used rocket propelled grenades to damage and destroy several warplanes. These included the Pakistan navy's premier anti-submarine attack jet - the US made P-3C Orion.

At least two of these multi-million dollar aircraft were set ablaze.

The gunmen then opened indiscriminate fire, killing several naval personnel as they carried their deadly raid into the heart of the base.

Subsequently, navy commandos and marines launched a counter assault. Dozens of heavily armed army reinforcements also arrived to provide cover.

Some of the militants have now been killed, officials say.

The remaining gunmen have taken several officials, including Chinese military personnel, hostage inside a building. Security officials say commandos are now being sent in to clear this area.

At dawn on Monday, three loud blasts were heard, followed by gunfire.

"The operation still continues. It is not over yet," one security official told Reuters news agency.

On Friday the Taliban bombed a US consulate convoy in Peshawar, killing one Pakistani.

Other attacks by Pakistani militants this month include a raid on a security post that killed two police in the north-west and a twin suicide bombing at a paramilitary police training centre.

Are you in Pakistan? Did you witness the attack? Send us your comments and experiences using the form below

Send your pictures and videos to yourpics@bbc.co.uk or text them to 61124 (UK) or +44 7725 100 100 (International). If you have a large file you can upload here.
 
They've arrested a guy who was using his binoculars to view the operation pretty close by the PNS Mehran
 
It seems people are misinterpreting my earlier statement: I don't want to "wipe" out Waziristan from the map, nor do I want to see an inch of Pakistan leave/not be a part of our wonderful country. It was a slightly sarcastic/semi serious reflection of mine about all the troubles it has brought us with very little benefit in return. Now, in hindsight I can see why P_P got upset about it and I do apologize to him and anyone else with more than 10 posts for the comment.
 
They've arrested a guy who was using his binoculars to view the operation pretty close by the PNS Mehran

Was he a militant or just randomly arrested.

Can't trust our security forces after what they did to chechniyans
 
Was he a militant or just randomly arrested.

Can't trust our security forces after what they did to chechniyans

Didn't look like he could even hurt a fly, but they've arrested him right now. If he's innocent, hopefully he won't be used as a target for these forces to show their 'efficiencies'
 
Can you point out what is so wrong in this article??? Please highlight those areas which you do not agree on.

Use your brain dude.

After all the sacrifices we make on a war which wasn't ours- we have to put up with B.S.
 
from defense:

11 injured evacuated to PNS Shifa

Ranger jawans, despite being wounded aren't leaving and are continuing the fight.

last military reinforcements entered 6:05am pak time, so no more troops are needed. Estimated time to wrap up op is within 1-2hours.

unconfirmed: 3 navy sub-lieutenants, and 1 full Lt. martyred

Please pray for the soldiers!
 
@Haroom His comments mount to a pile of beans or his request for further clarification...


"And the servants of Allah . . . are those who walked on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say 'Peace'" [Qur'an 25:63]

"Have patience with what they say, and leaves them with noble (dignity)." [Qur'an 73:10]

"Hold to forgiveness, command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant." [Qur'an 7:199]

"When ye hear the signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme." [Qur'an 4:140]

"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: "to us our deeds and to you yours; peace be to you." [Qur'an 28: 55]
 
Talat Hussain:

this is very well and pre-planned. Pakistan pe aik jang musalat kee gaye hay. Orian plane was bought after great arguements from the US etc.

all institutions of Pak have been attacked and degraded
 
will the gov't give a little bit part of that $1.5 billion/year to those martyred????

:zardari RRRRRRRRRRRR' BARK BARK RRRRRRRRRRR
 
Birgadier Ghazanfar: these people attacked in three groups approx. and firstly they destroyed the Airplane... They have proven to the world that Nothing is safe in Pakistan, They can reach anywhere
 
Lol just watching BBC...unsurprisingly their focus is on inside help for the Taleban and whether Pakistan is capable of looking after their nuclear facilities...predictably very little focus on the loss of life...
 
Lol just watching BBC...unsurprisingly their focus is on inside help for the Taleban and whether Pakistan is capable of looking after their nuclear facilities...predictably very little focus on the loss of life...

its all expected nothing new....
 
Use your brain dude.

After all the sacrifices we make on a war which wasn't ours- we have to put up with B.S.

I am not trying to argue with you for nothing. All I am saying is that what is it in the article which shows that it is a brainwashing??? You are replying me back saying that "...the sacrifices on a war which wasn't ours..". This is your opinion and nothing else. But the newspaper has not said or mentioned anything like that. They are only telling what is happening in Karachi. My question is do you even bother to read or you simply making accusition just for the sake of an argument?
 
No. 6 more blasts in last 10 minutes. The terrorists have taken in hostages. Cant imagine what our innocent jawaans must be going through. May Allah bless the souls of the deceased.

That sucks . No casualties i hope ?
 
Yes...... and i see the army putting in another effort in Waziristan....
 
inb4 the US points to this as a reason to invade Pakistan and secure the nukes.
 
koi saale ko yeh nahi fikar ke Pakistani log mar rahe haiN , only worried about nukes . Now that the TTP has claimed responsibility , BBC has this as their MAIN NEWS . Wah !
 
Is the operation over or what???

Its 1:00 am. Im off to bed. Hopefully they catch those SOB's.
 
I live in a building , i went downstairs and noticed something on a wall . Someone had cutout an article and taped it on the wall . The title read " US backs off of Pakistan " with people burning a picture of Obama :inti
 
I live in a building , i went downstairs and noticed something on a wall . Someone had cutout an article and taped it on the wall . The title read " US backs off of Pakistan " with people burning a picture of Obama :inti

is it a brown area?
 
Its still going on , I can't believe it. Somebody should relieve this dog Zardari of his misery.
 
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