British Politics: the Mega-Thread

[marlonbrowndo]

As long as democracy prevails, I couldn't care less.

Worst kind of mindset

 

[Technics 1210]

Worst kind of mindset

Is this all you have?

Come back when you are old enough to vote.

 

[Technics 1210]

That we are dreadful.

That we choose to be led by clowns instead of statesmen. So we must be clowns.

The only hope is that Johnson is so incomplete that there will be a GE and he is removed. But Corbyn will be even less competent.

We have abandoned reason and are choosing populists who have no substance - maybe some have the brains but not the character and maybe some have character and no brains, but never both.

When was the last time the UK was lead by Statesman? Who in your opinion is statesmen material?

BJ might be a buffoon, but I get the feeling you would support Hunt instead as he is against a No Deal.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Is this all you have?

Come back when you are old enough to vote.

I have voted in Pakistan

 

[Technics 1210]

I have voted in Pakistan

So have I.

If you do not believe democracy should prevail, why bother voting?

 

[Robert]

When was the last time the UK was lead by Statesman? Who in your opinion is statesmen material?

BJ might be a buffoon, but I get the feeling you would support Hunt instead as he is against a No Deal.

The last statesman was Gordon Brown.

I cannot think of one Tory candidate who is statesman material - they are all venal backstabbing careerists. I like Ken Clarke and Dominic Grieve of the old guard, and Tugendhat and Greening of the new.

I don’t get a vote for Johnson or Hunt.

 

[Technics 1210]

The last statesman was Gordon Brown.

Please tell me you are pulling my leg?

I cannot think of one Tory candidate who is statesman material - they are all venal backstabbing careerists. I like Ken Clarke and Dominic Grieve of the old guard, and Tugendhat and Greening of the new.

Well this was my point, I do not think any leader in the past 40 years or so has been statesman material. All politicians are backstabbing and self serving.

I don’t get a vote for Johnson or Hunt.

Then blame the system, not the leader. Did you have a choice when the new LD leader was elected?

You could become a member of the Tory party though!

 

[Robert]

Please tell me you are pulling my leg?




Well this was my point, I do not think any leader in the past 40 years or so has been statesman material. All politicians are backstabbing and self serving.

Then blame the system, not the leader. Did you have a choice when the new LD leader was elected?

You could become a member of the Tory party though!

I seriously rate Mr Brown. My kind of PM - considered and measured. His economic plan was widely copied by the G20 and spared us from another Great Recession.

Yes I do.

I could. But I won’t.

 

[James]

A lot of people are complaining that a crowd of 160,000 Conservative members gets to choose the next Prime Minister, despite the fact that 1 person (Tony Blair) chose our Prime Minister in 2007.

 

[Technics 1210]

I seriously rate Mr Brown. My kind of PM - considered and measured. His economic plan was widely copied by the G20 and spared us from another Great Recession.

Yes I do.

I could. But I won’t.

Brown, the guy who promised no more boom or bust, they guy whose policies as chancellor squandered more cash than any #11, the guy caught on camera for calling a woman a bigot, and the guy who forced banks to merge.

His economy plan destroyed the GBP. Dropped from 2.10 to 1.35 during the crisis, and ended up 25% lower. Yet remainers cry over the gbp dropping from 1.56 to 1.28 after brexit.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Not really a fan of either but part of me hopes that Boris becomes PM, we crash out of Europe and then there’s a general election and Corbyn wins a majority. It would trigger so many people and then the fun would really start.

Out of chaos comes order and all that. It would really shake up the political class in this country and hopefully lead to some real change across all political parties.

 

[Robert]

Brown, the guy who promised no more boom or bust, they guy whose policies as chancellor squandered more cash than any #11, the guy caught on camera for calling a woman a bigot, and the guy who forced banks to merge.

His economy plan destroyed the GBP. Dropped from 2.10 to 1.35 during the crisis, and ended up 25% lower. Yet remainers cry over the gbp dropping from 1.56 to 1.28 after brexit.

Eh? GDP shrank by 2% due to the 2008 crash, not 25%. He prevented a run on RBS which would have caused a run on every other bank, collapse of the banking system, no money in cashpoints, ten million unemployed, mass home repossession and probable food riots.

Old Gordon saved the world from another Great Depression. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

 

[Technics 1210]

Eh? GDP shrank by 2% due to the 2008 crash, not 25%. He prevented a run on RBS which would have caused a run on every other bank, collapse of the banking system, no money in cashpoints, ten million unemployed, mass home repossession and probable food riots.

Old Gordon saved the world from another Great Depression. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

I was referring to GBP (FX rate), not GDP.

He did not prevent a run on Northern Rock though did he? He like many said the situation was contained, and this was in 2007, 1 year before the crash, but then it was all too late.

He didn't save the world. The world simply embarked on rounds of QE and low rates. OF course, bail outs too.

 

[Technics 1210]

Nick Clegg says 'no evidence' of Russian interference in Brexit vote

There is "absolutely no evidence" Russia influenced the Brexit result using Facebook, the company's vice-president, Sir Nick Clegg, has said.

The former deputy PM told the BBC the company had carried out analyses of its data and found no "significant attempt" by outside forces to sway the vote.

Instead, he argued that "the roots to British euroscepticism go very deep".

In a wide-ranging interview, Sir Nick also called for more regulation of Facebook and other tech giants.

Sir Nick, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats and deputy prime minister during the coalition government, was hired by Facebook in October last year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48740231

Well well well, former LD leader claims there was no Russian interference in Brexit vote. What a surprise!

 

[the Great Khan]

Not really a fan of either but part of me hopes that Boris becomes PM, we crash out of Europe and then there’s a general election and Corbyn wins a majority. It would trigger so many people and then the fun would really start.

Out of chaos comes order and all that. It would really shake up the political class in this country and hopefully lead to some real change across all political parties.

britain needs to realise that the tories are a party fighting extinction. The Empire is dead and will never come back. The tories are a party living in their past and why wouldnt they? they have ruled britain for years. But now their time is up and it is only a matter of time. Even if Corbyn fails another will come and then another. Tory policies offer us nothing but pain and misery.

 

[Technics 1210]

The sooner people realise the current model of capitalism is the problem and not the policies, the better.

It doesn't matter who is in power, the national debt will continue to rise. Does not matter who is in power, the gap between rich and poor will continue to expand. Doesn't matter who is in power, the manufacturing base will not return to the UK, and as a nation we rely on the financial services sector. Does not matter who is in power, inflation, thus prices, will continue to rise.

No potential leader or party, no matter who, will touch the NHS/Welfare system - it is the 3rd rail of British politics - touch it and you're dead. We all witnessed how May was shot to pieces in 2017 after she thought it would be a good idea to ruffle social care, and we can also see/hear the public outcry at the mere mention of privatizing the NHS.

This is the price you pay for globalization. Exporting jobs and industries was the worst economical decision this country has ever made, coupled with the EU restrictions on global trade agreements, this country is heading towards an abyss. All for what? Cheaper goods? Pathetic.

 

[barah_admi]

The sooner people realise the current model of capitalism is the problem and not the policies, the better.

It doesn't matter who is in power, the national debt will continue to rise. Does not matter who is in power, the gap between rich and poor will continue to expand. Doesn't matter who is in power, the manufacturing base will not return to the UK, and as a nation we rely on the financial services sector. Does not matter who is in power, inflation, thus prices, will continue to rise.

No potential leader or party, no matter who, will touch the NHS/Welfare system - it is the 3rd rail of British politics - touch it and you're dead. We all witnessed how May was shot to pieces in 2017 after she thought it would be a good idea to ruffle social care, and we can also see/hear the public outcry at the mere mention of privatizing the NHS.

This is the price you pay for globalization. Exporting jobs and industries was the worst economical decision this country has ever made, coupled with the EU restrictions on global trade agreements, this country is heading towards an abyss. All for what? Cheaper goods? Pathetic.

I agree that capitalism is the major problem however it is incorrect to state that no leader can make a difference and that the NHS is untouchable. The last decade has already seen privatisation of the health service and it is extremely naive to think the UK will not go the full distance as long as the Conservative stay in power.

A correct, heck even somewhat moral government, one potentially run by Corbyn, McDonnell and Watson (if the latter two were done trying to usurp leadership) would definitely see a protection of the NHS, an inhibition of further privatisation, improvement of the tuition fee structure, better framework for disability benefits and other such benefits and a return to what should be a fairer society.

We need to stop acting like its the Conservative way or the high way and actually vote for a person, for the first time in many decades, who may truly care for the people he is supposed to represent.

 

[Technics 1210]

I agree that capitalism is the major problem however it is incorrect to state that no leader can make a difference and that the NHS is untouchable. The last decade has already seen privatisation of the health service and it is extremely naive to think the UK will not go the full distance as long as the Conservative stay in power.

A correct, heck even somewhat moral government, one potentially run by Corbyn, McDonnell and Watson (if the latter two were done trying to usurp leadership) would definitely see a protection of the NHS, an inhibition of further privatisation, improvement of the tuition fee structure, better framework for disability benefits and other such benefits and a return to what should be a fairer society.

We need to stop acting like its the Conservative way or the high way and actually vote for a person, for the first time in many decades, who may truly care for the people he is supposed to represent.

I agree that Labour would do a better job in protecting the NHS/Welfare than the Tories, and the Tories are no doubt paying the price for tinkering with the NHS.

Also agree that we need to stop acting like its the Conservative way or the high way and actually vote for a person. This require reform. Unfortunately the when voting for a person, we are actually voting for our local MP rather than the leader of the country.

We are going to see more coalitions in the future instead of outright majorities. The downside to this is that not much is achieved as seen since post 2010. A few days ago The Times was reporting a potential coalition between the Tories and the Brexit party!

 

[barah_admi]

I agree that Labour would do a better job in protecting the NHS/Welfare than the Tories, and the Tories are no doubt paying the price for tinkering with the NHS.

Also agree that we need to stop acting like its the Conservative way or the high way and actually vote for a person. This require reform. Unfortunately the when voting for a person, we are actually voting for our local MP rather than the leader of the country.

We are going to see more coalitions in the future instead of outright majorities. The downside to this is that not much is achieved as seen since post 2010. A few days ago The Times was reporting a potential coalition between the Tories and the Brexit party!

Agreed with almost all of this haha

In terms of voting, even with the idea being we vote for a local MP, the problem is, most people still vote with party in mind and the Tories at one point grew more popular than an incompetent labour, with an increase in general xenophobia in our society.

 

[Technics 1210]

Agreed with almost all of this haha

In terms of voting, even with the idea being we vote for a local MP, the problem is, most people still vote with party in mind and the Tories at one point grew more popular than an incompetent labour, with an increase in general xenophobia in our society.

Tell me about it! My local MP is Vince Cable. He is a fantastic MP, but I rather not vote than vote LD in a general election!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Two-thirds of Tory members believe UK areas ‘under sharia law’, as poll reveals scale of Islamophobia in party

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...bcMER0CRxTlWATlf2Im0SB7VhpGTXD_LmEkxDixIi9Dl4

Shows the stupidy of the Tory members and these clowns will be choosing the next PM.

General election is a must, nobody voted in Boris for PM.

 

[Robert]

Nick Clegg says 'no evidence' of Russian interference in Brexit vote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48740231

Well well well, former LD leader claims there was no Russian interference in Brexit vote. What a surprise!

Who does he work for now?

 

[Robert]

I agree that capitalism is the major problem however it is incorrect to state that no leader can make a difference and that the NHS is untouchable. The last decade has already seen privatisation of the health service and it is extremely naive to think the UK will not go the full distance as long as the Conservative stay in power.

A correct, heck even somewhat moral government, one potentially run by Corbyn, McDonnell and Watson (if the latter two were done trying to usurp leadership) would definitely see a protection of the NHS, an inhibition of further privatisation, improvement of the tuition fee structure, better framework for disability benefits and other such benefits and a return to what should be a fairer society.

We need to stop acting like its the Conservative way or the high way and actually vote for a person, for the first time in many decades, who may truly care for the people he is supposed to represent.

But what if such a person is a dogmatic ideologue with not much brains and a sixth form understanding of the world whom you wouldn’t trust to mind a sweet shop?

 

[Robert]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...bcMER0CRxTlWATlf2Im0SB7VhpGTXD_LmEkxDixIi9Dl4

Shows the stupidy of the Tory members and these clowns will be choosing the next PM.

General election is a must, nobody voted in Boris for PM.

Ok....

1. Johnson is elected Tory Leader.
2. May goes to the Queen and tells her he cannot command a majority in the Commons.
3. Queen asks May if another Tory MP has enough support. May says no.
4. Queen grudgingly accepts Johnson as PM.
5. Corbyn immediately tables no confidence motion, which is carried.
6. General election.
7. Another hung Parliament. A right group of Tories / BXP / DUP faces off against a left group, but the resurgent Lib Dems and Scot Nats will not enter a left Coalition led by Corbyn.
8. Lib Dems and Scot Nats enter confidence and supply arrangement with Labour if PM Corbyn immediately holds a second referendum with option to Remain.
9. This time Remain wins and A50 is rescinded.
10. Corbyn cannot command the House and resigns. Watson takes over as PM.

 

[Markhor]

The most likely route to a general election is if Tory Remainers block Boris from pursuing a no deal Brexit after another round of failed negotiations.

 

[James]

The only possible way to push Brexit through Parliament (as displayed by the Brady Amendment) is with a time-limited Irish Backstop arrangement that is guaranteed by the Withdrawal Agreement. Literally everything else has been rejected, and would be rejected again. If the Withdrawal Agreement cannot be caveated then we will be Remaining for the long term.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ok....

1. Johnson is elected Tory Leader.
2. May goes to the Queen and tells her he cannot command a majority in the Commons.
3. Queen asks May if another Tory MP has enough support. May says no.
4. Queen grudgingly accepts Johnson as PM.
5. Corbyn immediately tables no confidence motion, which is carried.
6. General election.
7. Another hung Parliament. A right group of Tories / BXP / DUP faces off against a left group, but the resurgent Lib Dems and Scot Nats will not enter a left Coalition led by Corbyn.
8. Lib Dems and Scot Nats enter confidence and supply arrangement with Labour if PM Corbyn immediately holds a second referendum with option to Remain.
9. This time Remain wins and A50 is rescinded.
10. Corbyn cannot command the House and resigns. Watson takes over as PM.

Labour will win with a small majority. Boris is hated by most people. The Tory members are bunch of racist idiots who like Boris because he is like Trump. This fiasco has shown a lot of voters the Tories are not a party for the people.

Regardless the PM must be chosen by the public unless he/she only has a few months before an election is due. Otherwise democracy is joke .

 

[Technics 1210]

Who does he work for now?

Why does his employer matter? You are not suggesting a conspiracy theory are you?

 

[Robert]

Why does his employer matter? You are not suggesting a conspiracy theory are you?

We are paid to be ambassadors for our employers. Let’s just say he is towing the company line.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

The only possible way to push Brexit through Parliament (as displayed by the Brady Amendment) is with a time-limited Irish Backstop arrangement that is guaranteed by the Withdrawal Agreement. Literally everything else has been rejected, and would be rejected again. If the Withdrawal Agreement cannot be caveated then we will be Remaining for the long term.

And if its time limited its not really a backstop then is it, and it does nothing to solve the border problem.

Not to mention, the EU and Ireland have said numerous, numerous times, that backstop cannot be time limited and they wont accept it.

And, even better, the whole "UK wide" backstop was the UK's idea! We were more than happy with a NI only as are the vast majority of people in the mainland UK

 

[Robert]

Labour will win with a small majority. Boris is hated by most people. The Tory members are bunch of racist idiots who like Boris because he is like Trump. This fiasco has shown a lot of voters the Tories are not a party for the people.

Regardless the PM must be chosen by the public unless he/she only has a few months before an election is due. Otherwise democracy is joke .

Look at Electoral Calculus. Even with LD or SNP support Labour will not have a majority. If they changed leader to someone credible it might be a different matter.

Callaghan, Major, Brown and May all became PM without a GE. We are a constitutional monarchy, not a democracy.

 

[Technics 1210]

We are paid to be ambassadors for our employers. Let’s just say he is towing the company line.

Or maybe Russia did not interfere as paid ambassadors suggest so.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Look at Electoral Calculus. Even with LD or SNP support Labour will not have a majority. If they changed leader to someone credible it might be a different matter.

Callaghan, Major, Brown and May all became PM without a GE. We are a constitutional monarchy, not a democracy.

Labour did better than predicted in the previous election. They will have the SNP support who will also pick up more seats imo. Add perhaps another smaller party and I think Labour will get a tiny majority and Corbyn will be PM.

If the people choose Boris, then fine but they haven't yet and I dont think they will ,the guy is a joke of human being and a pathetic politician.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

britain needs to realise that the tories are a party fighting extinction. The Empire is dead and will never come back. The tories are a party living in their past and why wouldnt they? they have ruled britain for years. But now their time is up and it is only a matter of time. Even if Corbyn fails another will come and then another. Tory policies offer us nothing but pain and misery.

Yep the Tories are a dying breed. Changing demographics will kill off the Tory party much like it will the republicans across the pond.

 

[Robert]

Labour did better than predicted in the previous election. They will have the SNP support who will also pick up more seats imo. Add perhaps another smaller party and I think Labour will get a tiny majority and Corbyn will be PM.

Why would the SNP support Corbyn? They are Remainers and he is a Leaver. And if they win more seats Labour will lose more.

If Labour get a credible leader and come out hard for Remain, then they will win.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Why would the SNP support Corbyn? They are Remainers and he is a Leaver. And if they win more seats Labour will lose more.

If Labour get a credible leader and come out hard for Remain, then they will win.

SNP will support Labour if it means a Tory government wont get in. I watched this last night.

I would prefer Labour to offer another referendum if the deal looks bad. If Corbyn promises remai the Tories and others will label him a fascist, against the will of the people etc.

 

[Robert]

Or maybe Russia did not interfere as paid ambassadors suggest so.

Unlikely.

Twitter says some 4000 Russian bots sent ten million tweets leading up to the Referendum to spread disinfo and divide us.

Facebook claimed in 2017 there was no interference in the Referendum but a US Senate committee immediately rejected this as interference in the 2016 Presidential election is proven.

Anyway, we will find out in due course. The Electoral Commission supported by the Senators will get to the bottom of this.

 

[Robert]

SNP will support Labour if it means a Tory government wont get in. I watched this last night.

I would prefer Labour to offer another referendum if the deal looks bad. If Corbyn promises remai the Tories and others will label him a fascist, against the will of the people etc.

Let them, it’s the only way we will get another referendum.

I guess the Scot Nats might support Corbyn in return for IndyRef2.

 

[Technics 1210]

Unlikely.

Twitter says some 4000 Russian bots sent ten million tweets leading up to the Referendum to spread disinfo and divide us.

Facebook claimed in 2017 there was no interference in the Referendum but a US Senate committee immediately rejected this as interference in the 2016 Presidential election is proven.

Anyway, we will find out in due course. The Electoral Commission supported by the Senators will get to the bottom of this.

Evidence please.

Why not just accept the fact that people have had enough of mainstream politics?

 

[Robert]

Evidence please.

Why not just accept the fact that people have had enough of mainstream politics?

Of Twitter’s own report of the 4000 St Petersburg bots? It was all over the news. Try the Guardian on 13 Dec 2017.

You can look up the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report of 21 June 2017 on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

 

[Technics 1210]

Of Twitter’s own report of the 4000 St Petersburg bots? It was all over the news. Try the Guardian on 13 Dec 2017.

You can look up the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report of 21 June 2017 on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The Senate Select committee highlighted ONE advert :

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-technology-facebook.html

Now if you think one ad is interference then that's a different argument, but from what I am reading you are saying I should not believe FB, but should believe Twitter. More importantly, 4000 tweets out of 10 millions is not an influence but negligible.

 

[Technics 1210]

The Senate Select committee highlighted ONE advert :

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-technology-facebook.html

Now if you think one ad is interference then that's a different argument, but from what I am reading you are saying I should not believe FB, but should believe Twitter. More importantly, 4000 tweets out of 10 millions is not an influence but negligible.

Forgot to add :

Republicans strongly pushed back on the idea that Facebook, Google, and Twitter were responsible for the election results.

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] - I guess you will now say, Republicans would say that because Trump represents the republicans in office.

 

[Robert]

The Senate Select committee highlighted ONE advert :

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-technology-facebook.html

Now if you think one ad is interference then that's a different argument, but from what I am reading you are saying I should not believe FB, but should believe Twitter. More importantly, 4000 tweets out of 10 millions is not an influence but negligible.

Read what I wrote again. Ten million tweets from 4000 St Petersburg bots.

Your link refers to dozens, and to a slew, not one ad.

The Senators decided that Facebook was used by the Russian government to subvert the 2016 election. Facebook was forced to concede that this was true. I expect that if the Electoral Commission supported by the Senate Intelligence committee comes to the same conclusion about the Referendum, then Facebook will be forced to concede that point too.

 

[Technics 1210]

Read what I wrote again. Ten million tweets from 4000 St Petersburg bots.

Your link refers to dozens, and to a slew, not one ad.

The Senators decided that Facebook was used by the Russian government to subvert the 2016 election. Facebook was forced to concede that this was true. I expect that if the Electoral Commission supported by the Senate Intelligence committee comes to the same conclusion about the Referendum, then Facebook will be forced to concede that point too.

The senators couldn't believe Trump was President and were (still are) looking someone to blame, other than the state of the USA.

As for the number of tweets, my bad, it was less than 2000 tweets. From Twitter themselves:

The US intelligence community released a report in January, 2017, highlighting the role that RT (Russia Today), which has strong links to the Russian government, allegedly played in seeking to interfere in the 2016 U.S. election and undermine trust in American democracy. RT has accounts on Twitter and tweets regularly. The open nature of the Twitter platform means this activity was public.

Today we proactively shared with committee staff a round-up of ads that three RT accounts (@RT_com, @RT_America, and @ActualidadRT) targeted to the U.S. market in 2016. As of our meetings today we believe this is the complete list from these three accounts within that time frame, but we are continuing to review our internal data and will report back to the committees as we have more to share.

Based on our findings thus far, RT spent $274,100 in U.S. ads in 2016. In that year, the @RT_com, @RT_America, and @ActualidadRT accounts promoted 1,823 Tweets that definitely or potentially targeted the U.S. market. These campaigns were directed at followers of mainstream media and primarily promoted RT Tweets regarding news stories.

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topi...n-2016--Election-Bots-and-Misinformation.html

If you want to believe the same Senate Intelligence committee that pushed for Iraq had WMDs narrative (one example), that's your call, but blaming Russia when the result is unexpected is just an excuse and highlights just how disconnected governments are with the people.

 

[Technics 1210]

Theresa May provokes anger by agreeing to meet Putin at G20 despite Salisbury poison attack

Theresa May has agreed to a face-to-face meeting with President Putin on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Japan, prompting outrage from critics who believe Russia should remain in the cold after the Salisbury nerve agent poisonings.

The Kremlin confirmed that the meeting would go ahead after an agreement was reached following weeks of deliberation. British diplomatic sources had previously told The Times that a meeting would take place only if it had a clear purpose.

“The leaders will talk about sensitive matters, and quite a few of them have accumulated in our relations with the United Kingdom,” Yuri Ushakov, a Kremlin aide, said. “If some opportunities can be found for normalising our co-operation, we will only welcome this.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...t-g20-after-salisbury-poison-attack-6v6mjbt9x

Lame duck PM making moves that are too little too late.

It is best the UK improves ties with Russia instead of putting all its eggs in one war-mongering USA basket.

 

[the Great Khan]

Why would the SNP support Corbyn? They are Remainers and he is a Leaver. And if they win more seats Labour will lose more.

If Labour get a credible leader and come out hard for Remain, then they will win.

theres no guarantee of that and there is no credible leader. just opportunists like Jess philips who will get annihilated in a general election.

new labour is dead. Anyone who supports new labour are yesterdays news. Labour has to keep in mind that they have major constituencies in the north that are pro leave. Abandoning them will lead to the far right brexit party entering politics.

brexit is a joke. a farce. The whole thing is based on the assumption that britain is great. it isnt. it was great because it stole the wealth of the subcontinent. its best hope is to remain in a union will 27 other former colonialists otherwise those that you colonised will have the last laugh.

 

[WC-Passion]

2019 only will continue it's downward trend if BoJo becomes PM. Can't wait for the no-deal brexit brought to you by this absolute lunatic.

 

[Robert]

theres no guarantee of that and there is no credible leader. just opportunists like Jess philips who will get annihilated in a general election.

new labour is dead. Anyone who supports new labour are yesterdays news. Labour has to keep in mind that they have major constituencies in the north that are pro leave. Abandoning them will lead to the far right brexit party entering politics.

brexit is a joke. a farce. The whole thing is based on the assumption that britain is great. it isnt. it was great because it stole the wealth of the subcontinent. its best hope is to remain in a union will 27 other former colonialists otherwise those that you colonised will have the last laugh.

So to preserve the Parliamentary Labour Party, we have to ruin the country.

I didn’t colonise anyone.

 

[the Great Khan]

So to preserve the Parliamentary Labour Party, we have to ruin the country.

I didn’t colonise anyone.

you live on the benefits of that colonisation. Your ancestors benefited from that colonisation therefore its your responsibility to acknowledge Britain's pillage of the subcontinent.

Us immigrants and sons of immigrants weren't just colonised once but now twice.

As for the Labour party, they have to tread a fine line. People in some constituencies are life long labour members and supporters who voted Leave. Should Labour just abandon them?

 

[James]

you live on the benefits of that colonisation. Your ancestors benefited from that colonisation therefore its your responsibility to acknowledge Britain's pillage of the subcontinent.

I fully acknowledge Britain’s pillage of the subcontinent, but you are quite keen to use possessive pronouns here (“you”, “your”) and it makes your posts read differently.

Not saying that you did this - but landing the responsibility for colonialism on any White Briton of today is pretty low stuff IMO. There is hardly any living breathing person left in the world who had anything to do with the British Empire.

 

[Robert]

you live on the benefits of that colonisation. Your ancestors benefited from that colonisation therefore its your responsibility to acknowledge Britain's pillage of the subcontinent.

Us immigrants and sons of immigrants weren't just colonised once but now twice.

As for the Labour party, they have to tread a fine line. People in some constituencies are life long labour members and supporters who voted Leave. Should Labour just abandon them?

The spoils of Empire were hoovered up by the aristocracy. My people were crash-poor Irish. My wife’s were crash-poor Caribbeans. I acknowledge nothing.

By supporting Brexit, Labour are abandoning all their working class support.

 

[the Great Khan]

I fully acknowledge Britain’s pillage of the subcontinent, but you are quite keen to use possessive pronouns here (“you”, “your”) and it makes your posts read differently.

Not saying that you did this - but landing the responsibility for colonialism on any White Briton of today is pretty low stuff IMO. There is hardly any living breathing person left in the world who had anything to do with the British Empire.

unfortunatley you may believe that todays white britons are not responsible personally for colonialism and you would be right but the british state is responsible. The amount of wealth stolen lead to us being here. Which in turn lead to Britons voting brexit to get rid of foreigners which has now put us in this position. I would argue that the EU is simply a club of colonisers who are trying to protect their ill-gotten wealth. My faith in the whole system is zero. It is simply a racket to protect the few. As for the white working class, it was built on the back of the death and murder of the subcontinental middle class and working class..from the destruction of industry to the punitive tax and pillage of rural communities..where did all of that money go? where did the raw materials go? to british mills where the working class worked.

While the people of the subcontinent died in their millions, in british induced famines...

Its no wonder British history isnt taught properly in schools...

 

[Robert]

unfortunatley you may believe that todays white britons are not responsible personally for colonialism and you would be right but the british state is responsible. The amount of wealth stolen lead to us being here. Which in turn lead to Britons voting brexit to get rid of foreigners which has now put us in this position. I would argue that the EU is simply a club of colonisers who are trying to protect their ill-gotten wealth. My faith in the whole system is zero. It is simply a racket to protect the few. As for the white working class, it was built on the back of the death and murder of the subcontinental middle class and working class..from the destruction of industry to the punitive tax and pillage of rural communities..where did all of that money go? where did the raw materials go? to british mills where the working class worked.

While the people of the subcontinent died in their millions, in british induced famines...

Its no wonder British history isnt taught properly in schools...

The EU has brought about a period of unparalleled peace and prosperity across Europe, for everybody.

There were no ‘British induced famines” in the Subcontinent. There were natural famines which were mishandled by the Raj due to the Victorian doctrine of laissez-faire.

If you want a horror deliberately perpetrated by the British, I give you the theft of the Iranian harvest to feed the WW1 Army in Mesopotamia, which killed half their population.

 

[Technics 1210]

The EU has brought about a period of unparalleled peace and prosperity across Europe, for everybody.

There were no ‘British induced famines” in the Subcontinent. There were natural famines which were mishandled by the Raj due to the Victorian doctrine of laissez-faire.

If you want a horror deliberately perpetrated by the British, I give you the theft of the Iranian harvest to feed the WW1 Army in Mesopotamia, which killed half their population.

For everybody? Yugoslavia must have been a blip.

 

[Robert]

For everybody? Yugoslavia must have been a blip.

Not in the EU at the time. So yes, for everybody.

 

[Technics 1210]

Not in the EU at the time. So yes, for everybody.

You mentioned peace and prosperity across Europe, but I understand, a European country has to be part of the club to be safe in Europe. So much much for promoting peace in Europe.

In essence, the life of an EU citizen is worth more than the life of a European outside the EU. Who needs war when we have thinking like this.

 

[Robert]

Just watched a damning Panorama documentary about Labour antisemitism.

 

[Firebat]

Just watched a damning Panorama documentary about Labour antisemitism.

Very eye-opening, brilliant documentary. Surely Corbyn is unelectable?

 

[Robert]

Very eye-opening, brilliant documentary. Surely Corbyn is unelectable?

In a normal situation, no. But with the Tories riven over Brexit and losing votes to BXP anything can happen.

I don’t know how the most anti racist party could have developed this problem. It could be that a lot of young leftists don’t consider Jews to be BME because Jews are mostly white. It could be that a lot of pro-Palestinians joined because of Corbyn, and strong anti-Zionism sentiment can drift into antisemitism.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Corbyn's Labour - For The Many — Not The Jew.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am not going to turn a blind eye to anti-Jewish racism. We can sort this mess. But we need a full, independent disciplinary system, and powers to auto-exclude prima facie cases of anti-semitism. Only then can Labour start to rebuild trust with the Jewish community. <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCr4today?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BBCr4today</a> <a href="https://t.co/9KWftPcIr9">pic.twitter.com/9KWftPcIr9</a></p>— Tom Watson (@tom_watson) <a href="https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1149269052558401541?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11 July 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Truly, truly awful watching <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCPanorama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BBCPanorama</a> tonight - to see the stress of former staff members who were trying to stand up to antisemitism but most of all to see the pain of Jewish members who our party has so badly let down</p>— Yvette Cooper (@YvetteCooperMP) <a href="https://twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1149071762317090817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10 July 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Markhor]

What a joke. But sadly for us, it's at the expense of the British people.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

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What a joke. But sadly for us, it's at the expense of the British people.

Indeed - what a sad state of affairs.

 

[Robert]

Gloria De Piero resigns from Labour's front bench and will not fight the next election, citing "lack of tolerance"..

 

[MenInG]

Either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt will become the new Conservative leader on Tuesday as the result of the contest to succeed Theresa May is announced.

The outcome of the ballot of about 160,000 Tory members will be revealed at just before midday in London.

The victor will officially become prime minister on Wednesday.

Mr Johnson, a former mayor of London, is seen as the clear favourite although a number of senior figures have said they will not serve under him.

Mrs May, who is standing down after a revolt by Conservative MPs over her Brexit policy, will chair her last cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.

She will officially tend her resignation to the Queen on Wednesday afternoon after taking part in her final Prime Minister's Questions.

Her successor will take office shortly afterwards, following an audience at Buckingham Palace.

'An extraordinary triumph?'
The embedded expectation in Westminster is that the name will be Boris Johnson - unless the Tory party has been collectively deceiving itself in the past few weeks.

If it proves so, the triumph will be extraordinary. Not because of a journey Mr Johnson has been on in the last few weeks - the controversial former foreign secretary and London mayor started out as the frontrunner.

But because again and again, over many years, his own political accidents and behaviour would have ruled other politicians out.

Mr Johnson's supporters would say he has found himself in some serious scrapes.

His detractors would say that he has blundered his way through a high-profile career causing offence and putting his own interests ahead of the country's.

It wasn't so long ago that the same received wisdom in Westminster that said he could never make it, said that he had blown too many chances - his long held public ambition would never be achieved.

But it is likely that his status as Brexit's cheerleader-in-chief will see him into the job he has craved.

Read more analysis from Laura here.

Conservative members have been voting by post for the past two and a half weeks. It is the first time they will have selected a serving prime minister.

Since he made the final two candidates last month, Mr Johnson - who led the Leave campaign in the 2016 Brexit referendum - has been regarded as the clear frontrunner.

Former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab told Sky News Mr Johnson was "best placed" to unite the party as he had won the backing of more than 50% of MPs in the first stage of the race.

And Communities Secretary James Brokenshire told Channel 4 News that Mr Johnson was the "right person to get a deal with Europe" on the terms of the UK's exit and "make it stick" in Parliament - which has rejected Mrs May's agreement three times.

The month-long leadership campaign has been dominated by arguments over Brexit.

Mr Hunt, the foreign secretary, has said he is better placed to secure a negotiated exit and would be prepared to ask for more time beyond the Halloween deadline to finalise it.

Mr Johnson has said he is determined to take the UK out of the EU on 31 October, if necessary without a deal. He has said all ministers must "reconcile" themselves to this.

Chancellor Philip Hammond, Justice Secretary David Gauke and International Development Rory Stewart have said they cannot support this and will resign if Mr Johnson is elected.

This means there are likely to be wholesale changes in cabinet if Mr Johnson wins. Such a reshuffle will only begin if and when Mr Johnson enters Downing Street on Wednesday.

Sir Alan Duncan, who quit his Foreign Office role on Monday, has called for MPs to have a vote before this on whether they actually back Mr Johnson forming a government.

He said this would show whether Mr Johnson, who like his predecessor will depend on the votes of the Democratic Unionists to form a majority, has "the numbers to govern".

However, his request was turned down by Commons Speaker John Bercow.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49078864

 

[Gabbar Singh]

A good night for the Lib Dems, a bad but better than expected night for the Tories (a convicted fraudster almost held on to his seat lol). Then there is Labour - almost lost their deposit in Wales. Wales! )


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brecon & Radnorshire, result:<br><br>LDEM: 43.5% (+14.3)<br>CON: 39.0% (-9.6)<br>BREX: 10.5% (+10.5)<br>LAB: 5.3% (-12.5)<br>MRLP: 1.0% (+1.0)<br>UKIP: 0.8% (-0.6)</p>— Britain Elects (@britainelects) <a href="https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1157098753108713472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Markhor]

US has demanded we ditch plans to tax the big tech companies in order to proceed with a trade deal.

Take back control !

 

[Markhor]

Congress has made it clear they will veto any US-UK trade deal if Brexit causes any disturbance to the Good Friday Agreement.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Looks like we’re headed for a Brexit general election.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Nigel Farage confirms Brexit Party won’t stand against Conservative candidates in an election if Boris Johnson promises to leave the EU without a deal. “Of course we’ll put country before party.” Massively helps the Tory vote, while the opposition is divided <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCr4today?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BBCr4today</a></p>— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1168792492038217728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE Conservative donors plan to tip millions into 106 target seats to win a snap election for Boris Johnson <a href="https://t.co/D04Ae19aWY">https://t.co/D04Ae19aWY</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/Telegraph?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Telegraph</a></p>— Christopher Hope (@christopherhope) <a href="https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1168623807856295937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Boris Johnson warns Tory rebels there will be an election on 14 October if they defeat government<a href="https://t.co/lcynb0Wkmg">https://t.co/lcynb0Wkmg</a></p>— PoliticsHome (@politicshome) <a href="https://twitter.com/politicshome/status/1168818415106174977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Erm, midway through the PM’s statement, Philip Lee has just walked in and sat down with the Lib Dems.<br><br>If that is a defection it has been done in full WWE style.</p>— Tom Peck (@tompeck) <a href="https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1168895602912059392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Philip Lee crosses the floor and joins the Lib Dems.<br><br>The government now has a majority of -1.</p>— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) <a href="https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1168896019330994176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Robert]

Oops!

No Confidence motion imminent but no GE - time for a GNU!

 

[Knight_Rider]

Congress has made it clear they will veto any US-UK trade deal if Brexit causes any disturbance to the Good Friday Agreement.

Wonder where has the ‘special’ relationship disappeared now. Britain should realise where it ‘actually’ stands in today’s world. Too many Brits are still full of themselves.

 

[JaDed]

How do Tories keep winning, such incompetent lot?

 

[Markhor]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Erm, midway through the PM’s statement, Philip Lee has just walked in and sat down with the Lib Dems.<br><br>If that is a defection it has been done in full WWE style.</p>— Tom Peck (@tompeck) <a href="https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1168895602912059392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Philip Lee crosses the floor and joins the Lib Dems.<br><br>The government now has a majority of -1.</p>— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) <a href="https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1168896019330994176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RIP Conservative majority. It's now 319-320.

If the Opposition Parties cannot pull off a successful no confidence vote now then they are even more useless than we feared.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Its very entertaining witnessing the DUP continue to cling to the sinking ship as she slips below the waves.

 

[Markhor]

21 Conservative MPs have effectively been deselected, including Winston Churchill's grandson and several former Cabinet members.

After all that hue and cry for four years, how many MPs did Corbyn deselect ? Not one.

 

[Robert]

Jo Johnson has quit as a Minister and MP for Orpington in protest over the purge. That's another One Nation Tory gone.

Luciana Berger has just joined the Lib Dems, who have 16 MPs now. Only had 11 two months ago. More to follow, I think.

 

[Robert]

Sam Gyimah has joined the Lib Dems. That’s three Labour and three Tory MPs this summer.

 

[Markhor]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...th-support-labour-ebbs-away-blair-sedgefield?

This article has to be read to be believed )

"I'd rather be a satellite of America than Europe."

Another guy whose company literally exports into the European Single Market wants to leave anyway.

And the cherry on the cake:

Paula Brown said she may vote for the Brexit party, despite voting remain in 2016. “I’ve no faith in any of them. I would never in a million years vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would rather vote Tory, even Lib Dem.” Corbyn, she said, was “IRA”, and frightened her: “I would rather have Piers Morgan as prime minister. I know it seems mad, but he’s consistent and isn’t afraid to say what he thinks. Nigel Farage cuts through in the same way.’”

You all deserve a no-deal Brexit and the ensuing chaos.

 

[sweep_shot]

The UK is willing to make concessions to its plans for the Northern Ireland border after Brexit but "a big gap" remains over customs arrangements, EU ambassadors have been told.

In a briefing on UK-EU weekend talks on a Brexit deal, EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier said UK plans on the tracking of goods were unacceptable.

Earlier, Boris Johnson told his cabinet "significant work" was still needed.

It comes as his government's agenda is to be set out in the Queen's Speech.

Plans for life after Brexit, crime prevention and ending rail franchises are all expected to be outlined in the Queen's address on Monday, which opens the new session of Parliament.

Meanwhile, the UK and EU negotiating teams are due to meet again in Brussels today, as efforts continue to reach a deal before a summit on Thursday and Friday.

The government says that, if it can strike an agreement at the summit, it will introduce a withdrawal agreement bill to be voted on next Saturday in a special Parliamentary session.

It is seen as the last chance to do this before Brexit is due to happen at 23:00 GMT on 31 October.

On Sunday, Mr Johnson told cabinet ministers he could see a "way forward" to a deal "in all our interests".

The European Commission echoed the prime minister, saying: "A lot of work remains to be done."

In a statement it added that the "intense technical discussions" between the UK and EU officials in Brussels would continue on Monday before member states were updated on the progress at a meeting in Luxembourg on Tuesday.

The issue of the Northern Ireland border in post-Brexit arrangements is seen as the key factor in the EU-UK talks and Mr Johnson came up with revised proposals this month.

BBC Brussels correspondent Adam Fleming said Mr Barnier, in his briefing to EU diplomats, said the UK had dropped its proposals to include an up-front veto for Northern Ireland politicians in the Stormont Assembly before any arrangements for Northern Ireland came into force.

But he said the UK is still seeking the power for Northern Ireland to leave the arrangements at some point in the future.

According to a note of his meeting with EU ambassadors on Sunday evening, Mr Barnier also said he would be willing to accept Mr Johnson's plan for Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK's customs territory but apply EU customs procedures.

However, he said he could not accept a British proposal to track goods entering Northern Ireland to determine whether they ended up in Ireland.

Our correspondent said it appeared EU negotiators seemed to have "softened" their position, indicating they are prepared to keep talking until Wednesday, the eve of the summit, despite saying previously that a revised deal had to be ready a week in advance.

This Queen's Speech will feel rather different to normal.

Boris Johnson does not have a majority in Parliament and cannot guarantee that he will be able to pass all the bills announced this morning. There is no guarantee the Queen's Speech itself will pass.

Add into the mix the fact he wants a general election and some of what you will hear will feel more like a pitch to the country than a concrete plan for the next year in Whitehall.

There is also the fact that whatever is announced in the House of Lords could quickly be overshadowed by what happens in Brussels.

A lot has been spoken about crucial weeks at Westminster.

This really feels like it could be one - where key questions are answered.

Can the PM get a new Brexit deal? If so, can he persuade Parliament to back it? If not, can MPs force him to delay Brexit again?

Strap yourself in - it could be a bumpy few days.

The State Opening of Parliament - an event steeped in pomp and ceremony - is the first since Boris Johnson became prime minister.

Ministers say the speech, the 65th of Elizabeth II's reign, will focus on "people's priorities".

In the Queen's Speech, the government will unveil its plans to get the withdrawal agreement bill through Parliament if the PM gets a deal with the EU, and to end the free movement of EU citizens into the UK after Brexit.

It will promise to create more powers to "get weapons off our streets" and ensure "the worst offenders serve the time they deserve".

And it will pledge to "significantly increase" sentences for foreign offenders who return to the UK having breached deportation orders.

Other proposals in the Queen's Speech include:

Measures to bring in a points-based immigration system from 2021
Scrapping the rail franchise system - the contracting out of services introduced when the rail system was privatised in the 1990s
Setting up an independent NHS investigations body with legal powers to improve patient safety
Updating the Mental Health Act to reduce the number of detentions made under it
Creating legally binding targets to reduce plastics, cut air pollution, restore biodiversity and improve water quality
There are also plans to improve building standards, and increase investment in infrastructure and science.

Mr Johnson promised to "get this country moving again", adding: "This is a Queen's Speech that will deliver for every corner of the UK and make this, once again, the greatest place on Earth."

But, with a general election expected soon, Labour is calling it a "stunt" and a "party political broadcast".

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn told Sky News on Sunday that holding the event ahead of an expected general election in the autumn was "ludicrous".

He said: "What we have got in effect is a party political broadcast from the steps of the throne."

Timeline: What's happening ahead of Brexit deadline?
Monday 14 October - The Commons is due to return, and the government will use the Queen's Speech to set out its legislative agenda. The speech will then be debated by MPs throughout the week.

Thursday 17 October - Crucial two-day summit of EU leaders begins in Brussels. This is the last such meeting currently scheduled before the Brexit deadline.

Saturday 19 October - Special sitting of Parliament and the date by which the PM must ask the EU for another delay to Brexit under the Benn Act, if no Brexit deal has been approved by Parliament and it has not agreed to the UK leaving with no-deal.

Thursday 31 October - Date by which the UK is due to leave the EU, with or without a withdrawal agreement.

Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50035156.

 

[sweep_shot]

Labour MP and deputy Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle has been elected by MPs as the new Commons Speaker, after John Bercow stepped down.

After winning the final round of voting against Chris Bryant, Sir Lindsay was dragged to the chair by MPs, where he pledged to be a "neutral" Speaker.

He also paid tribute to his daughter, Natalie, who died in 2017, saying she would "always be missed".

The Speaker keeps order in Commons debates and calls MPs to speak.

Speakers must be politically impartial, which means Sir Lindsay will be required to resign from the Labour Party in order to carry out his role.

Mr Bercow stood down last week after an eventful and frequently controversial decade in the Speaker's chair. His resignation as MP for Buckingham was officially confirmed on Monday.

Seven candidates were originally in the running to succeed Mr Bercow, including former minister and deputy Labour leader Harriet Harman and former Labour minister Meg Hillier.

In the fourth and final round of voting, Sir Lindsay - who has been Mr Bercow's senior deputy for years - received 325 votes to Labour MP Chris Bryant's 213.

Sir Lindsay, who is the MP for his home constituency of Chorley, in Lancashire, told MPs that "this House will change, but it will change for the better" and he said he would be a "transparent" Speaker.

He also thanked his staff and family and paid tribute to his daughter, saying: "There is one person who is not here; my daughter Natalie. I wish she could have been here. She was everything to all of us."

Sir Lindsay's 28-year-old daughter Natalie Lewis-Hoyle was found dead at her home in Essex in December 2017.

Paying tribute to the new Speaker, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he was sure Sir Lindsay would "stick up" for backbenchers and show his "signature kindness and reasonableness" in the chair.

"Mr Speaker, in congratulating you on your election I observe that you have prevailed over an extremely strong field and that every other candidate earlier on spoke forcibly and well," Mr Johnson said.

"And Mr Speaker, over the years I have observed that you have many good qualities, and I'm sure you will stick up for backbenchers in the way that you have proposed, and I'm sure that you will adhere to a strict Newtonian concept of time in PMQs."

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn told Sir Lindsay he would need eyes in the back of his head in his new role.

He said Sir Lindsay had taken the welfare of Commons staff and MPs "very, very seriously" and would continue to do so.

Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson said Sir Lindsay had "always taken great care" of MPs, and welcomed his pledge to take the welfare of Commons staff seriously.

She also said she hoped he would continue the modernisation of Parliament.

DUP Westminster leader Nigel Dodds also congratulated Sir Lindsay, saying the Commons was "looking for a breath of fresh air".

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50293505.