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Cameron White: Most Improved Cricketer?

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Ever since Cameron White made his debut for Australia, I was hearing stories about how capable he was with the bat but he never performed with the bat for Australia for about 3-4 years.

But suddenly this last year, he has gone crazy scoring almost whenever hes gotten the chance in all conditions?

What is the reason that so many Aussie cricketers start their careers slowly but suddenly find their mojo and become world beaters (Watson, Symmonds and White are the most recent examples)

Whats brought this change around for White? How has he turned his career around like this all of a sudden?
 
sakss said:
for sure....along with watson and raina
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Raina has been scoring runs quite consistently for a while

But Watson and White were failing for a long time but suddenly these 2 have been in probably the top 5 batsman in LOIs over the last year or 2.
 
You must have hurried for this thread Sallu?

What magnificant hitting! And I am just judging this from the scorecard. Looking forward to watch the highlights in the evening InshaAllah.
 
Please post his stats for the past year.
 
I think the fact that he is no longer (or very rarely) used as an all-rounder by Australia may have helped focus his mind on his batting and has clarified his role within the team.

Absolutely amazing when he is on song- clears the ropes with ease and has amazing hand speed.
 
IAJ said:
You must have hurried for this thread Sallu?

What magnificant hitting! And I am just judging this from the scorecard. Looking forward to watch the highlights in the evening InshaAllah.
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It was absolutely effortless

Sure, India dished up a lot of rubbish, full toses and half volleys at not faster than 130 kph

But he was hitting them miles without any effort whatsoever
 
*sallu* said:
It was absolutely effortless

Sure, India dished up a lot of rubbish, full toses and half volleys at not faster than 130 kph

But he was hitting them miles without any effort whatsoever
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Ok fair call, he's averaging 47 this year in ODIs across 22 games.

Just thought thread was made in haste given he was facing the might of Nehra, Praveen and Vinay in this innings, who all bowled absolute crap at the death.

:sami
 
Poison said:
Please post his stats for the past year.
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Averages 45 with 2 hundreds and 11 fifties at a strike rate of almost 85

Scored a huge amount of runs since 4 sep 2009 (The England series from where his improvement was noted)

1397 runs in 13 months of cricket

Thats Brilliant
 
Poison said:
Ok fair call, he's averaging 47 this year in ODIs across 22 games.

Just thought thread was made in haste given he was facing the might of Nehra, Praveen and Vinay in this innings, who all bowled absolute crap at the death.

:sami
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No mate, this innings is merely a reminder of how much he has improved since Sep 2009 when Australia decided to use him at 4.

Check his t20 records as well. I'm sure they must be brilliant as well
 
84 runs of last 5 overs.Vinay kumar bowled full toss after a full toss and was lucky to concede 23 in last over as he got away with a wide.
CW was always destuctive since I first saw him at somerset.He is a better version of razzaq with proper shots and will have good world cup.
 
Yes just checked his T20 records post 2009

Averages almost 39 at a strike rate of almost 150

So
ODI Average 47 Strike Rate 85
T20 Average 39 Strike Rate 145

Those are magnificent stats hes racked up
 
Without a doubt guys.as i said before if he had been in any other team he would have been dropped by now.But hats off to aussie system
 
Krishnan said:
Without a doubt guys.as i said before if he had been in any other team he would have been dropped by now.But hats off to aussie system
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I definitely think its something to do with the Aussie system.

How is it that Watson, Symmonds and White all started so slowly yet ended up in the top brackets of cricketers.

It just shows, when Aussies recognize talent, they stick with it through thick and thin.
 
HEY wait on guys,you dont judge batsman's improvement against trundlers ,he showed he has improved when he scored against pak in aus, today he was just cashing in on some garbage thrown art him in the name of death bowling
 
SID_ZONE said:
HEY wait on guys,you dont judge batsman's improvement against trundlers ,he showed he has improved when he scored against pak in aus, today he was just cashing in on some garbage thrown art him in the name of death bowling
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no man he has played a lot of innings last 2 years.u can check from the stats the difference between his early days and now
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine...=2;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

main point is aussie system makes selection difficult but once selected,a fair run is given.other examples are watson,hayden(in middle he was in terrible form for 20 matches in 2006 before 2007 world cup,but they persisted with him and after that he was unbelievable),even damien martyn to an extent.
 
I would pick him for the Ashes team. I know there are others who have probably scored more runs domestically but this guy really has the ability in my opinion.

Isn't he captain of his state team? They say he may be Australia's next T20 captain when/if Clarke gets the big job. Bowls some decent leggies too.

It would be a gutsy selection mind you.
 
I remember him at Somerset and he was awsome, His hitting was crazy.

A great player on his day but lacked consistency until now :)
 
Trust me, i have seen the side doing fielding drills and they look awsome, its concentration levels that are the problem
 
I remember when he first came on the scene in about 2006-07 they were saying he was the next Symo and I thought "what's the fuss about"--he did bludgeon a few but was inconsistent. then in the last year he's gone rampaging off the radar, since that england series
 
IT_Khumbee said:
scored only 40 runs against Pakistan in recent series....
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not sure which series are you talking about ? In Australia, i remember he hit afridi for 3 consecutive sixes & then a couple more in next over. So that makes it 30 & m sure he mst have done better than hitting just 10 more runs. even in the WC semi final, he was the one who kept australia in the game by periodically hitting sixes, which hussey completed in the last over...hes certainly one of the best SIX hitters at the moment..
 
he should succeed Ponting for ODI & T20 captaincy and who knows even for tests...the man to watch in the WC 2011
 
*sallu* said:
I definitely think its something to do with the Aussie system.

How is it that Watson, Symmonds and White all started so slowly yet ended up in the top brackets of cricketers.

It just shows, when Aussies recognize talent, they stick with it through thick and thin.
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The making of White was 2 things:

1) T20 cricket which is perfectly suited to his power hitting
2) We played one ODI series somewhere when Ponting was injured or rested and White got to bat in the top order and build an innings, he hasn't looked back since.

Also worth remember he is very young for an Aus cricketer still.

Symonds was persisted with because of his feats as a junior and his all round versatility, I mean we still play James Hopes for a similar reason.

Watson has always been a gun with bat and ball, he just needed a consistent run without injury and confidence that his body would hold up.
 
exactly why do the Aussies persist with James Hopes? I saw him play yesterday and I've seen him against England, and on the evidence of that and his statistical record, he seems pretty hopeLESS.
 
I don't know if I can hack another winter on PakPassion where we lose 5-0. But somebody will make one. I guess I will have to have PakPassion on the laptop - there will be nothing else to do laid on my sofa with a pillow, blanket and a hot chocolate all night watching everything unfold. Trying to rope my housemates and my missus into joining me, but it's not working very well at the moment.
 
Whippy said:
exactly why do the Aussies persist with James Hopes? I saw him play yesterday and I've seen him against England, and on the evidence of that and his statistical record, he seems pretty hopeLESS.
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I think its because he looks like Russell Crowe.

that's the only logical explanation I can think of.
 
Whippy said:
exactly why do the Aussies persist with James Hopes? I saw him play yesterday and I've seen him against England, and on the evidence of that and his statistical record, he seems pretty hopeLESS.
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No idea really, he is according to stats about as useful as Afridi.
 
first warm up game is in 2 weeks. as if. I want to go to Australia until February too, it's 3 degrees here and will only get colder.
 
Lol there is a team by the name "sri lanka" which has some 20 20's and one days with aus from end of month i thk.lets that get over first,though im sure 90 percent of the commentary would always involve something or other about how this guy should bat,that guy should bowl in the ashes.
 
course it will. would you be more bothered about a 3 match ODI series with Sri Lanka or the upcoming Pakistan v India test series? if there was one obviously.
 
Of course ashes,and india-pak rivalry are always more expected than other matches,But india-pak matches(when they were held normally some years before and not now when there is a huge gap of almost 3 or 4 years)would be spoken about a lot,not for the full year but only a week or two before the series get started or a world cup match is taking place.Not like this stuff,where 6 months before the ashes get started everyone mentions it in some game or the other.
 
White was originally touted as a talented all-rounder.

His bowling is nothing more than a token guesture these days.

He is a talented and powerful striking batsmen though!
 
cameron white has changed his career over the last 2 year and the difference i have seen is that his playing straight now and playin cricket shots not slogs.. much improved player and his definately making up for the loss of andrew symonds,
shame pakistani player dont become better ie umar akmal
 
Umar Akmal is similar to the old White, but far more talented, hopefully he improves, but won't until he gets dropped!

But i feel that Hashim Amla is the most improved of them all
 
hashbb said:
Umar Akmal is similar to the old White, but far more talented, hopefully he improves, but won't until he gets dropped!

But i feel that Hashim Amla is the most improved of them all
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Eh, not really.
 
I would like to see how good he is when facing quality pace bowlers..
 
Bump:

Not only is this guy a beast in the LOI formats, hes showing a temperament in the longer format as well

I don't know why they are not seriously considering him for a test spot. Hes a much better bet than North for sure, and maybe even Michael Hussey at the moment. Definitely worth it.

And of course, if in a situation that requires quick runs, he can be a potential match winner
 
I thought he was only a one day player but he did well in australlia a game.

well done
 
timely reminder by White about his test match credentials. its only a matter of time now before he breaks in the test team
 
Australia's White retires, to focus on coaching

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - Former Australia cricket all-rounder Cameron White ended his nearly two-decade-long professional career on Friday, saying he wants to focus on coaching.

“I’ve definitely finished up playing, that’s for sure,” White, who turned 37 this week, told http://www.cricket.com.au.

“To be totally honest, I’m pretty content. I think my time is definitely up, I’ve had enough from a playing point of view and I’m ready to focus on coaching.”

The Victorian made his Australia debut in a one-day international against the ICC World XI in 2005 and went on to play 91 one-dayers and 47 Twenty20 Internationals.

Though he played only four tests, White captained Australia in seven limited-overs matches where his destructive batting was more valued.

White scored 2072 runs in one-dayers, including centuries against England and Pakistan.

“I’m just keen to get involved in it (coaching) and give it a go,” said White, who is currently mentoring Victoria’s Under-19 prospects via Zoom.

“I’ve enjoyed the bits and pieces I’ve done so far. Part of my role with the (Adelaide) Strikers last year involved coaching.”

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-c...te-retires-to-focus-on-coaching-idUKKBN25H14B
 
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