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Virat we all know how great he's. Even if Babar becomes #1 in the rankings, he'd still be far from Kohli. But can he replace Virat in the rankings at least?

Till the end of 2021, this is the number of matches the top ranked ODI players are going to play

#1. Virat (857) - 03 matches
#2. Babar (837) - 15 matches (or even 18)
#3. Rohit (825)- 03 matches
#4. Ross (801) - 03 matches
#5. Aaron (791) - 03 matches

So, apart from Babar none plays more than 3 matches in this year, and Babar is playing 5 times more (15 matches) matches than the other top ranked players

These are the matches for Babar this year

3 vs SA away (Babar loves bounce)
3 vs ENG away (Babar does well in England)
3 vs AFG
3 vs NZ home
3 vs WIN home

There might even be a 3 match away series with Netherlands.

I personally feel Babar won't get a better opportunity than this to get to the #1 position (ranking). Even a one legged Babar should be able to do it.
 
Virat we all know how great he's. Even if Babar becomes #1 in the rankings, he'd still be far from Kohli. But can he replace Virat in the rankings at least?

Till the end of 2021, this is the number of matches the top ranked ODI players are going to play

#1. Virat (857) - 03 matches
#2. Babar (837) - 15 matches (or even 18)
#3. Rohit (825)- 03 matches
#4. Ross (801) - 03 matches
#5. Aaron (791) - 03 matches

So, apart from Babar none plays more than 3 matches in this year, and Babar is playing 5 times more (15 matches) matches than the other top ranked players

These are the matches for Babar this year

3 vs SA away (Babar loves bounce)
3 vs ENG away (Babar does well in England)
3 vs AFG
3 vs NZ home
3 vs WIN home

There might even be a 3 match away series with Netherlands.

I personally feel Babar won't get a better opportunity than this to get to the #1 position (ranking). Even a one legged Babar should be able to do it.

I think Babr might be number one after the ICC annual update in May. Kohli might lose points since he hasn't done that well from 2020-21
 
Virat we all know how great he's. Even if Babar becomes #1 in the rankings, he'd still be far from Kohli. But can he replace Virat in the rankings at least?

Till the end of 2021, this is the number of matches the top ranked ODI players are going to play

#1. Virat (857) - 03 matches
#2. Babar (837) - 15 matches (or even 18)
#3. Rohit (825)- 03 matches
#4. Ross (801) - 03 matches
#5. Aaron (791) - 03 matches

So, apart from Babar none plays more than 3 matches in this year, and Babar is playing 5 times more (15 matches) matches than the other top ranked players

These are the matches for Babar this year

3 vs SA away (Babar loves bounce)
3 vs ENG away (Babar does well in England)
3 vs AFG
3 vs NZ home
3 vs WIN home

There might even be a 3 match away series with Netherlands.

I personally feel Babar won't get a better opportunity than this to get to the #1 position (ranking). Even a one legged Babar should be able to do it.

I personally feel that He should not play against countries like Netherlands, or even Afghanistan. So if he doesn't there will be about 12 matches, still enough matches to overtake virat, so I feel if he does well he can surely overtake him
 
I'm not interested in the rankings personally. Instead, I'm hoping that Babar Azam starts to show some more dimensions to his batting, and can rack up runs to gain confidence.

I also want to see how he reacts to ODI leadership against a few quality oppositions.

Contrary to what others think, I believe it would be a good idea for him to play the home series against Afghanistan solely because he can work on playing against world class spinners, which will take his game to another level.
 
Doesn’t matter if Babar gets ranked number 1st and Kholi 100th.

Would pick Kholi every time, for his ability to increase the strike rate as and when required. In comparison, Babar is capped when it comes to power hitting.
 
Babar looking set to get that no 1 rank considering that he has at least 15 matches to play on. VK even if he bats out of his skin now cannot improve his points much.
 
Kohli has regressed as a batsman and Babar can be number 1 without impact. There are quite a few other players who probably score less runs than both but will be more impactful.
 
Highest ICC ratings in ODIs for batsmen:-

935: Vivian Richards
931: Zaheer Abbas
921: Greg Chappell
919: David Gower
918: Dean Jones
911: Virat Kohli
 
Good chance for Babar to reach No-1 rank.

Since October 2017, Virat has been the top-ranked ODI batsman in the world replacing ABD.

Virat at currently No.1 for ~1560 days going past AB's numbers of 1480 days.
Both Viv & Lara were No.1 around 2100 days.
 
ODIs has been his best format till now. Averages 56 which is only behind Kohli among 2000 runs.
 
ODIs has been his best format till now. Averages 56 which is only behind Kohli among 2000 runs.

Does Babar avg 56? Really? I'd have to check it coz I can't believe it.

I thought he averages 52 something
 
We need to see Babar Azam spin game improve and would like to see him be a bit more positive. Sometimes he is happy to play dot balls, not saying every ball needs to be 6 but would be nice for him to hit a boundary every now and then, then keep on rotating strike and not have so many dot balls.
 
Babar Azam has been a slightly better version of Hashim Amla in ODIs. The statistics look great but he lacks presence and doesn’t look a player who can take control of the game.

The New Zealand innings in the World Cup is probably the only tough and genuinely impressive innings of his ODI career so far.

He might top the rankings like he did in T20Is but it won’t mean much. He is not close to Kohli and Rohit, and Smith and Root are better as well.
 
Babar Azam is the best ODI batsman Pakistan has produced since Inzamam. The statistics speak for themselves and the presence he shows at the crease solidifies his place as one of the best in the world.

The New Zealand innings in the World Cup was a watershed moment. A coming of age.

The fact that he is so highly ranked in T20Is and ODIs (and has been for quite some time) says alot about his consistency. Although Kohli and Rohit are the best ODI players in the world, Babar is in the same league as them. And he is comfortably better than Smith and Root in ODIs. What differentiates him is his age. Which is why he still has the potential to eclipse Rohit and Virat few years down the line.
 
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Babar Azam is the best ODI batsman Pakistan has produced since Inzamam. The statistics speak for themselves and the presence he shows at the crease solidifies his place as one of the best in the world.

The New Zealand innings in the World Cup was a watershed moment. A coming of age.

The fact that he is so highly ranked in T20Is and ODIs (and has been for quite some time) says alot about his consistency. Although Kohli and Rohit are the best ODI players in the world, Babar is in the same league as them. And he is comfortably better than Smith and Root in ODIs. What differentiates him is his age. Which is why he still has the potential to eclipse Rohit and Virat few years down the line.

I rate Inzamam highly and somebody who under achieved probably because of lack of fitness and professionalism. While Babar is good and score tons of runs I am yet to see him to be as impactful as Inzamam used to be for Pakistan against difficult oppositions in the 90s-early 2000s.

Babar has age on his side , so things can change in future.
 
Re: topic - he has the games to do it.

On Babar, the numbers do not lie but he never seems to have control of the game and therefore the ability to take the game away from the opponent. Or isn't able to come in and wrestle control back in a chase situation. I often feel that Babar can and will do well fulfilling close to his average at around a strike rate of 90, but it doesn't mean Pakistan does (well).

Would like more meaningful runs/knocks from him. I'll know when I start seeing those from him.
 
I rate Inzamam highly and somebody who under achieved probably because of lack of fitness and professionalism. While Babar is good and score tons of runs I am yet to see him to be as impactful as Inzamam used to be for Pakistan against difficult oppositions in the 90s-early 2000s.

Babar has age on his side , so things can change in future.

Babar has played just one World Cup and has already broken the record for the most runs in a World Cup by a Pakistani batsman. Regarding impactful knocks; go watch his innings against New Zealand in the same tournament.

Inzamam is ofcourse a legend of the game and one of the greatest batsmen to ever play the game in my opinion. But when he talk about his ODI career the idea of him playing impactful knocks is oftentimes misplaced. Yes, he played many great match-winning knocks in bilateral series. But in World Cups, by in large his performance is shockingly poor.

People like to remember him for the blinder he played against New Zealand in 1992. But take that out and there is not much to write home about. If anything the 2003 World Cup was probably the biggest low-point of his career where he averaged 3; a tournament in which he had ironically lost alot of weight and slimmed out. While 2007 ended his career in the arguably the worst way possible.
 
Babar has played just one World Cup and has already broken the record for the most runs in a World Cup by a Pakistani batsman. Regarding impactful knocks; go watch his innings against New Zealand in the same tournament.


How many Pak batsmen in the past have got the luxury of playing 9 group games in a world cup before? And on flatbed like English wickets of 2019?
 
Average wise - he is better than Viv Richards, Kane Williamson, Warner, Hayden and Gilchrist.

If I put them in modern era, their actual stats would be:-

Viv would have averaged 57 at strike rate of 100 in this era.

Hayden would have averaged 48-50 at strike rate of 87-88.

Gilchrist would average 45 at strike rate of 105.
 
How many Pak batsmen in the past have got the luxury of playing 9 group games in a world cup before? And on flatbed like English wickets of 2019?

Pakistan played 8 group games in 2019, not 9. And getting eliminated in the first round doesn't exactly accord you that opportunity.

Also, what? Some wickets in 2019 were flat but most were quite well varied that provided a good competition between bat and ball
 
Babar is not a match winner. Kohli is a master chaser and an ultimate match winner. He can accelerate and finish games as well. Babar has been one dimensional so far in his career but he is the best we have so no complaints. His fan boys should come back from moon and stop with their obsession of comparing him with Kohli.
 
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Babar is not a match winner. Kohli is a master chaser and an ultimate match winner. He can accelerate and finish games as well. Babar has been one dimensional so far in his career but he is the best we have so no complaints. His fan boys should come back from moon and stop with their obsession of comparing him with Kohli.
Just wait for few more matches, to dethrone kohli from no 1 in ranking and u will see a thread IS BABAR AZAM BETTER THAN KOHLI IN WHITE BALL CRICKET.
 
Huge opportunity for Babar to do this - just needs a good score in this game to get going.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Babar Azam in ODIs:<br><br>26 consecutive innings where he has reached double figures<br><br>Only 9 single figure scores out of 76 innings<br><br>28 scores of 50 or more<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1377974017316028416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Babar at his free flowing best:

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Fantastic innings once again from Babar. Brings up his 50 in 61 balls. Captain leading from the front, on course for a comfortable run chase
 
Babar Azam has been a slightly better version of Hashim Amla in ODIs. The statistics look great but he lacks presence and doesn’t look a player who can take control of the game.

The New Zealand innings in the World Cup is probably the only tough and genuinely impressive innings of his ODI career so far.

He might top the rankings like he did in T20Is but it won’t mean much. He is not close to Kohli and Rohit, and Smith and Root are better as well.

A bit harsh, I'd say in ODIs it goes Kohli>Smith>Root=Babar=Williamson. He has to carry a weak batting line-up, which may explain why he seems less impactful.
 
Virat we all know how great he's. Even if Babar becomes #1 in the rankings, he'd still be far from Kohli. But can he replace Virat in the rankings at least?

Till the end of 2021, this is the number of matches the top ranked ODI players are going to play

#1. Virat (857) - 03 matches
#2. Babar (837) - 15 matches (or even 18)
#3. Rohit (825)- 03 matches
#4. Ross (801) - 03 matches
#5. Aaron (791) - 03 matches

So, apart from Babar none plays more than 3 matches in this year, and Babar is playing 5 times more (15 matches) matches than the other top ranked players

These are the matches for Babar this year

3 vs SA away (Babar loves bounce)
3 vs ENG away (Babar does well in England)
3 vs AFG
3 vs NZ home
3 vs WIN home

There might even be a 3 match away series with Netherlands.

I personally feel Babar won't get a better opportunity than this to get to the #1 position (ranking). Even a one legged Babar should be able to do it.

Well he has a pretty good chance.

Also once Kohli loses the top spot our fans will start calling this ranking useless/meaningless anyway. :inti
 
Regardless of his impact babar is better than kohli on current form in odi cricket.
 
Yes definitely 2 b honest Babar is better than all....probably Smith better becoz he has to reinvent himself and is carrying the entire batting of Australia..... Williamson has had McCallum Guptil Taylor and now a plethora of youngsters.....same goes for Kohli.....got Dhoni and Tendulkar guidance.....then IPL...... Babar is a lone ranger.....and a better cap than kohli
 
Kohli has more hype, but Babar has more substance.

Babar is treating Rabada like a trundler.
 
Babar Azam has been a slightly better version of Hashim Amla in ODIs. The statistics look great but he lacks presence and doesn’t look a player who can take control of the game.

The New Zealand innings in the World Cup is probably the only tough and genuinely impressive innings of his ODI career so far.

He might top the rankings like he did in T20Is but it won’t mean much. He is not close to Kohli and Rohit, and Smith and Root are better as well.

Kohli goes missing in big tournament matches.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="sv" dir="ltr">Quickest to 13 ODI hundreds (number of innings)<br><br>Babar Azam in 76 innings<br>Hashim Amla in 83 innings<br>Virat Kohli 86 in innings<br>Quinton de Kock in 86 innings<br>David Warner in 91 innings<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1377997919652036614?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Whatever the rankings, he is already batting at a better level than Kohli from the past 2 years.

Not many can play these bowlers with such dominance.
 
Even if Babar replaces Kohli in ODI rankings,he will never be as impactful as Kohli.Kohli not only has good technique but also excellent fitness, professional ethics,leadership qualities,ability to play under pressure against big teams and competitive team environment.However,Babar lacks most of these qualities except good batting technique.
Besides,Babar does not need to match Kohli to win matches for Pakistan;even if he does 60 % of what Kohli has done for India both as a captain and player,I will be more than happy.
 
Kohli goes missing in big tournament matches.

The time I pay most attention to the Pakistani players is when they play India, which is not often. However, as they only meet in tournaments, they are usually pretty big games.

In ODIs, Kohli averages 48.7 against Pakistan (13 games and SR 96), while Babar averages 31.6 against India (5 games and SR 76).

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/253802.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/348144.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting

Babar is one of the best batsmen around, but his record against India in the few games he has played in not too impressive.
 
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Kohli has more hype, but Babar has more substance.

Babar is treating Rabada like a trundler.

Virat Kohli made his name by first Scoring a glut of centuries against top bowling attacks. He was not hyped up before that.

This is Kohli against SA in SA.

Kohli SA.jpg
 
The time I pay most attention to the Pakistani players is when they play India, which is not often. However, as they only meet in tournaments, they are usually pretty big games.

In ODIs, Kohli averages 48.7 against Pakistan (13 games and SR 96), while Babar averages 31.6 against India (5 games and SR 76).

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/253802.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/348144.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting

Babar is one of the best batsmen around, but his record against India in the few games he has played in not too impressive.

Interestingly enough, Rohit's performance against Pakistan is quite similar to Kholi's, average of 51 at a SR of 89 from 16 games. He also has 2 centuries and 6 fifties, which means he has got a half-century or better in half the games he has played.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34102.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting
 
I saw this idea but didn’t buy into earlier but recently it really does seem like Babar plays for 100s only. Makes a pretty 100 and gets out, to him that’s job done.

Kohli made 100s to chase down mammoth totals, he batted to win the game for his team. There is no comparison whatsoever between the two unless Babar wins his team a World Cup on the back of his batting.
 
The time I pay most attention to the Pakistani players is when they play India, which is not often. However, as they only meet in tournaments, they are usually pretty big games.

In ODIs, Kohli averages 48.7 against Pakistan (13 games and SR 96), while Babar averages 31.6 against India (5 games and SR 76).

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/253802.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/348144.html?class=2;template=results;type=batting

Babar is one of the best batsmen around, but his record against India in the few games he has played in not too impressive.

Only match that mattered was the Champions Trophy Final, Kohli went missing.

Group stage matches are not important.
 
Only match that mattered was the Champions Trophy Final, Kohli went missing.

Group stage matches are not important.

Yeah sure, the CT final is all you have. Babar obviously didn't take the 2019 WC game against India seriously.
 
A fantastic innings from Babar Azam today. Exquisite timing and delightful strokeplay against one of the best bowling attacks in world cricket.

On form, he's the best LO batsman in world cricket. It would be nice if gets the top spot in ODIs but rankings are not the be all, end all.
 
Yeah sure, the CT final is all you have. Babar obviously didn't take the 2019 WC game against India seriously.

Too bad Kohli didn't take the semi-finals seriously.

You're fighting a losing battle here. Babar has more than enough time to play some crucial world cup KO innings. Kohli, despite being on track to dethroning Sachin as India's best, is a bonafide choker. He has three tournaments left to redefine his legacy.
 
I saw this idea but didn’t buy into earlier but recently it really does seem like Babar plays for 100s only. Makes a pretty 100 and gets out, to him that’s job done.

Kohli made 100s to chase down mammoth totals, he batted to win the game for his team. There is no comparison whatsoever between the two unless Babar wins his team a World Cup on the back of his batting.

His 100 won the game for his team. Pakistan needed 60-odd runs when he got out.
 
Too bad Kohli didn't take the semi-finals seriously.

You're fighting a losing battle here. Babar has more than enough time to play some crucial world cup KO innings. Kohli, despite being on track to dethroning Sachin as India's best, is a bonafide choker. He has three tournaments left to redefine his legacy.

I noted that the sample size is small, so it is true that some day Babar may actually stop failing when he plays India. If you are looking at a player's performance, you need to look at all their games rather than one or two.

I am quite happy with the multiple fifties and centuries Kohli and Rohit against Pakistan (12 in all), while Babar still hasn't been able to deliver that still elusive WC win for Pakistan against India or even a fifty. It seems like Babar can't as yet handle the pressure of an India-Pakistan match, maybe in the future he will deliver.
 
I noted that the sample size is small, so it is true that some day Babar may actually stop failing when he plays India. If you are looking at a player's performance, you need to look at all their games rather than one or two.

I am quite happy with the multiple fifties and centuries Kohli and Rohit against Pakistan (12 in all), while Babar still hasn't been able to deliver that still elusive WC win for Pakistan against India or even a fifty. It seems like Babar can't as yet handle the pressure of an India-Pakistan match, maybe in the future he will deliver.

5 matches don't tell us much, especially when he did play a solid hand in one of them. If he fails against India in the upcoming WT20s and WCs, or does poorly in the rumoured bilateral series, then your claim may have some weight.
 
This was a great knock by Babar but Kohli scored three 100s and a 70 I'm his last ODI series in South Africa.....

But yeah... Babar is in a better form than Kohli right now.
 
I noted that the sample size is small, so it is true that some day Babar may actually stop failing when he plays India. If you are looking at a player's performance, you need to look at all their games rather than one or two.

I am quite happy with the multiple fifties and centuries Kohli and Rohit against Pakistan (12 in all), while Babar still hasn't been able to deliver that still elusive WC win for Pakistan against India or even a fifty. It seems like Babar can't as yet handle the pressure of an India-Pakistan match, maybe in the future he will deliver.

This might be a surprise, but Babar's world doesn't revolve around one particular game against one particular opponent in a one particular format. He's delivered at higher stakes.
 
This was a great knock by Babar but Kohli scored three 100s and a 70 I'm his last ODI series in South Africa.....

But yeah... Babar is in a better form than Kohli right now.

No comparison between babar and kohli but it will be a great feeling as a pakistani fan to see a pakistani be the one to dethrone kohli
 
This might be a surprise, but Babar's world doesn't revolve around one particular game against one particular opponent in a one particular format. He's delivered at higher stakes.

It would indeed be a surprise if a WC game against India wasn't significant in Babar's world.
 
Kohli goes missing in big tournament matches.

I still don't know why that's the case

He is a beast at chasing so he isn't mentally weak

I don't know what happens in big tournaments, just can't get my head around this problem of his
 
It would indeed be a surprise if a WC game against India wasn't significant in Babar's world.

I'm sure it'll be significant, but that does not mean stakes higher than that do not exist. However, you equated that with Kohli's performance in world tournaments, and that is far more significant.
 
He still goes missing in big tournament matches.

Unfortunately Pakistan does not have the capacity to produce a player like him. If they did, I wouldn’t care if he went missing in some big games.
 
His 100 won the game for his team. Pakistan needed 60-odd runs when he got out.

chasing down 270 in a pretty low pressure situation compared to the biggest hundreds Kohli has scored under pressure when chasing 300+. That’s why I brought it up in the second paragraph.

Maybe Babar will surpass Kohli, but my point is we’ll know when he performs these hundreds in crunch situations.
 
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I saw this idea but didn’t buy into earlier but recently it really does seem like Babar plays for 100s only. Makes a pretty 100 and gets out, to him that’s job done.

Kohli made 100s to chase down mammoth totals, he batted to win the game for his team. There is no comparison whatsoever between the two unless Babar wins his team a World Cup on the back of his batting.

Kohli hasn't been able to win his team a world cup being a top 3 ODI side and you want Babar to win a world cup with this team.
The moment he gets out, the team is finished.
 
chasing down 270 in a pretty low pressure situation compared to the biggest hundreds Kohli has scored under pressure when chasing 300+. That’s why I brought it up in the second paragraph.

Maybe Babar will surpass Kohli, but my point is we’ll know when he performs these hundreds in crunch situations.

Babar is the new captain and has some off-field issues that all contributed to this being a pressure innings. Additionally, this pitch wasn't the flat road on which Ben Stokes murdered the Indian spinners. It was overcast and the bowlers had enough purchase to make this interesting. All in all, it was a superior innings than chasing down 300 on a road.

Babar probably won't surpass Kohli. Regardless, there is no point in speculating when both of them are still playing.

I still don't know why that's the case

He is a beast at chasing so he isn't mentally weak

I don't know what happens in big tournaments, just can't get my head around this problem of his

He's a choker. The pressure of KO matches is not comparable to chasing 300 on a road, when you know you'll get another match to pad your stats in another couple of days.
 
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For Babar to get to Kohlis level, he needs to play more against good teams both home and away. Babar treated both the beasts of the IPL like they were FC bowlers and it was just overconfidence that cost him.
 
He is still miles better than any batsman Pakistan has ever produced and will produce.

Babar is playing at a different level compared to Kohli over the pas 2 years.

And it's not like Kohli is old or what, he should be at his peak or near it.
 
For Babar to get to Kohlis level, he needs to play more against good teams both home and away. Babar treated both the beasts of the IPL like they were FC bowlers and it was just overconfidence that cost him.

He was playing them like club bowlers.
He is better than other against great bowlers.
 
Babar is playing at a different level compared to Kohli over the pas 2 years.

And it's not like Kohli is old or what, he should be at his peak or near it.

Babar has been the best LO batsman for some time now. It's undeniable.
 
The irony when you see Hashim Amla's biggest fan call Kohli a choker.
 
Babar has been the best LO batsman for some time now. It's undeniable.

I don't know if he is the best. The way S. Smith batted in the world cup and how he demolished India was special.
Both are in brilliant form.
 
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