Can Imad Wasim be tried as a spin-bowling all-rounder in Tests?

[GLORY OF '92]

I'd suggest

Sami
Azhar
Shafiq
Yk
Misbah
Sarf
Imad
Yasir
Amir
Wahab
Sohail

 

[TalhaSyed]

I'd suggest

Sami
Azhar
Shafiq
Yk
Misbah
Sarf
Imad
Yasir
Amir
Wahab
Sohail

For a second I thought by Sohail you meant Sohail Tanvir I was gonna jump on the next train up to Aberdeen to knock some sense into you!

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

No need to sacrifice a batsman, two fast bowlers are enough.

I will prefer Nawaz over Zulfiqar Babar, as a specialist spinner. Don't fancy Imad's chances in Test cricket, as a bowler.

Wahab and Sohail should be our two fast bowlers.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

For a second I thought by Sohail you meant Sohail Tanvir I was gonna jump on the next train up to Aberdeen to knock some sense into you!

Haha you know I'm not that daft.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Don't agree man,would rather have Gohar or Nawaz.Imad should stick to LOI cricket atm.

 

[TalhaSyed]

Haha you know I'm not that daft.

Haha aye true that!

 

[gazza619]

Nawaz is more suited for tests


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[Ellipsism]

Imad will be massacred by us fans after he plays a test.

His bowling isn't suited to Test Cricket.

 

[Obstructing_the_field]

would still go with Zulfi, he has shown he belongs to test cricket... i would have ashghar before nawaz for tests as well
Yasir
Zulfi
Asghar
Nawaz
Gohar
Imad.

this would be my picking order for tests for the min

 

[naseem]

No nawaz or gohar or usama mir plz

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Can grab a place instead of ifthikar.. Not sure whether they will play him or not..

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

would still go with Zulfi, he has shown he belongs to test cricket... i would have ashghar before nawaz for tests as well
Yasir
Zulfi
Asghar
Nawaz
Gohar
Imad.

this would be my picking order for tests for the min

Zulfiqar hasn't shown anything, check his bowling average in Test cricket.

 

[Justcrazy]

No .

Imad is not a Test level bowler.

Let him concentrate on the format he knows best.

 

[Anfield]

Imad doesn't spin the ball. He won't be effective in tests.

 

[Zohaib Shah]

He needs to work on spinning the ball.

 

[naseem]

Nope.... nawaz or zafar gohar ...

 

[JibranAnsari]

Won't be effective in test matches , his bowling isn't goof enough to get wickets in test matches and I Dont have much faith in his batting.

 

[Salman CricBio]

Would like to see Nawaz instead. Imad isn't a big turner of the ball.

 

[aliijazcheema]

Imad Wasim could be Pakistan's Jadeja. This should be Pak 11
1.Sami
2.Azhar
3.Asad
4.Younis
5.Misbah
6.Sarfaraz
7.Imad
8.Bilal Asif
9.Yasir Shah
10.Amir
11.Wahab/Rahat/Sohail

 

[#GreenRoars]

Nawaz should be preferred.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Imad doesn't spin the ball. At all.

Zulfi may average 38 in tests but in 3rd and 4th innings, he averages similar to Yasir (if I am not wrong). So he has his uses though others can be tried.

 

[Markhor]

Nawaz should be preferred.

Is Nawaz a good enough Test match batsman ? He's a good spinner in UAE conditions but I wouldn't want him to bat higher than 8.

Say he plays at 6 or 7 - with his FC avg of 33 and fairly limited array of shots - would you trust him to come in at 100-4 or 150-5 ?

 

[shah_1]

Is Nawaz a good enough Test match batsman ? He's a good spinner in UAE conditions but I wouldn't want him to bat higher than 8.

Say he plays at 6 or 7 - with his FC avg of 33 and fairly limited array of shots - would you trust him to come in at 100-4 or 150-5 ?

Nawaz bats at 3 in first division and Imad bats at 6/7 in second divison.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Both Nawaz and Imad can play in test team:

1. Azhar
2. Sami
3. Asad
4. Younis
5. Misbah
6. Sarfraz
7. Nawaz
8. Imad
9. Yasir
10. Aamir
11. Sohail

Incredible batting depth

2 pacers + 3 spinners

The only negative is that you miss out the chance to groom Babar Azam and/or a fast bowling all-rounder which will be needed in overseas tours.

 

[Abdullah]

Both Nawaz and Imad can play in test team:

1. Azhar
2. Sami
3. Asad
4. Younis
5. Misbah
6. Sarfraz
7. Nawaz
8. Imad
9. Yasir
10. Aamir
11. Sohail

Incredible batting depth

2 pacers + 3 spinners

The only negative is that you miss out the chance to groom Babar Azam and/or a fast bowling all-rounder which will be needed in overseas tours.

This works better for subcontinent than what OP is suggesting. Maybe Zafar for nawaz would make bowling a bit stronger and batting slightly weaker but to be honest yasir and amir can go decent as batters in uae

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Not until he learns spinning the bowl away from right handers.

 

[The_Odd_One]

This works better for subcontinent than what OP is suggesting. Maybe Zafar for nawaz would make bowling a bit stronger and batting slightly weaker but to be honest yasir and amir can go decent as batters in uae

OP is talking about Asia only.

 

[90MPH]

Imad has actually started to spin the ball when he bowls his slower variation.

On helpful pitches he will spin it a bit.

I would def add him to the Test squad. Maybe give him a game in the last test.

If you don't try you will never know.

 

[90MPH]

I'm not convinced with Nawaz - he spins it a bit but he needs to work on his accuracy and also to give the ball a bit more of a rip.

 

[yasir_shah_fan]

Nawaz's batting isn't good enough to bat at number 7. Pakistan needs at least 1 all rounder to reinforce the lack of bowlers currently in the side.

Imad is the solution because he bats well and would be a handy 5th bowler option on slow/flat wickets to keep run rate down and hence maintain pressure. Hafeez did a similar job superbly. Imad Wasim is about the same as Hafeez as bowler but a far superior batsman.

He may not be technically special with the bat or ball but test matches is more about character, absorbing pressure and harnessing an intelligent cricketing brain.

Imad is a very intelligent cricketer, fast learner, doesn't crumble under pressure (seems to thrive in fact) as we saw in the recent ODI series in England... plus he is captaincy material...

 

[The_Odd_One]

Nawaz's batting isn't good enough to bat at number 7. Pakistan needs at least 1 all rounder to reinforce the lack of bowlers currently in the side.

Imad is the solution because he bats well and would be a handy 5th bowler option on slow/flat wickets to keep run rate down and hence maintain pressure. Hafeez did a similar job superbly. Imad Wasim is about the same as Hafeez as bowler but a far superior batsman.

He may not be technically special with the bat or ball but test matches is more about character, absorbing pressure and harnessing an intelligent cricketing brain.

Imad is a very intelligent cricketer, fast learner, doesn't crumble under pressure (seems to thrive in fact) as we saw in the recent ODI series in England... plus he is captaincy material...

You do not really need batting of Lara's calibre at #7. Nawaz will be fine at #7.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Its Imad v Asghar.

Imad deserves a test call up.

 

[AJM-Q]

I dont think its a specialist second spinner we are looking for as much as a all rounder. Someone good enough too bat at 7 and able to support the 4 bowlers and afford them to take rest.

Thats why zulfiqar and zafar are not options because they dont seem to be good enough batsmen.

Maybe nawaz or imad. Definitely better than iftikhar.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

For SLA in test the stock ball is the key :bedi

Can someone with a bit of knowledge explain about Imad's stock ball?

 

[#GreenRoars]

Is Nawaz a good enough Test match batsman ? He's a good spinner in UAE conditions but I wouldn't want him to bat higher than 8.

Say he plays at 6 or 7 - with his FC avg of 33 and fairly limited array of shots - would you trust him to come in at 100-4 or 150-5 ?

He bats at 3 in domestic cricket, so yes he can be trusted. His batting abilities are better than Imad and also his bowling abilities as far i have analyzed.

 

[yasir_shah_fan]

You do not really need batting of Lara's calibre at #7. Nawaz will be fine at #7.

Pakistan has a weak tail so that's naive statement to make tbh. In the modern game need batsman 1-7 to average 40+ with a strong tail.

Nawaz averages 33 in FC cricket, so his batting abilities are unproven whereas Imad averages 42 and is among the top 5-10% in FC amongst the top batters...

 

[The_Odd_One]

Pakistan has a weak tail so that's naive statement to make tbh. In the modern game need batsman 1-7 to average 40+ with a strong tail.

Nawaz averages 33 in FC cricket, so his batting abilities are unproven whereas Imad averages 42 and is among the top 5-10% in FC amongst the top batters...

That's why if any of Imad or Nawaz play, Pakistan has to play another all-rounder at #8 who should be a fast bowler too.

However, against WI, you really do not need batting depth.

 

[hussain.r97]

Nawaz is a far better option in Test Cricket.

 

[hur rizvi]

Imad has actually started to spin the ball when he bowls his slower variation.

On helpful pitches he will spin it a bit.

I would def add him to the Test squad. Maybe give him a game in the last test.

If you don't try you will never know.

Why last test?

Should be a straight swap for Iftikhar Ahmed

 

[hur rizvi]

Its Imad v Asghar.

Imad deserves a test call up.

Asghar and Imad have no competition

Asghar if he makes the squad should be competing with Zulf

 

[yasir_shah_fan]

That's why if any of Imad or Nawaz play, Pakistan has to play another all-rounder at #8 who should be a fast bowler too.

However, against WI, you really do not need batting depth.

against WI you are right but what about when the acid test comes when Pakistan has to go to flat wickets in Aus? Aussies are beast in home conditions....

 

[Savak]

Can Imad Wasim be given a go in test cricket as a spin bowling all rounder?

I was watching his bowling in the 3rd ODI against WI in 2017 and my word i was shocked to see him spin the ball away from the right hander, he looked extremely ordinary in the T-20's and first 2 ODI's where he was just darting them into the right handers but in that 3rd ODI alone, he was getting spin away from the right hander and that also at very fast pace at 57-62 mph and the WI batsmen were totally clueless against him and the end result was he bowled 10 overs on the trott for 24 runs with a wicket.

I really believe on spinning wickets, this guy should be our second spinner, his bowling should only improve with more and more overs under his belt and might even help him add more dimensions to his bowling in ODI's and T-20 Cricket where he will learn to set up the batsmen properly, his batting abilities will also give a whole new dimension to the team.

I think his selection can certainly be debated on.

 

[Pak_lover6]

Also the guy has a really good first class record. I think he averages around 40 in FC with the bat and on spinning wickets he can be handy as a bowler.

 

[Da_Future_Knick]

Without a doubt he should be in the test team asap.

Never understood why Nawaz was picked over him. A real slap on the face of all the posters saying Nawaz is a better option before all his failures lol

 

[Speedster777]

He should be part of all three formats. A very aggressive and talented player with leadership qualities.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Currently not at all.


With his action it would be a miracle if he turns the ball away from RHB on any surface. He is a limited overs bowler. He doesn't even vary his pace like Vettori and the trajectories of his all deliveries are typical of a limited overs spinner (darter)

 

[Da_Future_Knick]

Currently not at all.


With his action it would be a miracle if he turns the ball away from RHB on any surface. He is a limited overs bowler. He doesn't even vary his pace like Vettori and the trajectories of his all deliveries are typical of a limited overs spinner (darter)

Not true at all. Against both England and West Indies he was flighting the ball and turning it away from the right hander. In LO he is forced to restrict batsmen by darting it in.

 

[Rayyman]

Currently not at all.


With his action it would be a miracle if he turns the ball away from RHB on any surface. He is a limited overs bowler. He doesn't even vary his pace like Vettori and the trajectories of his all deliveries are typical of a limited overs spinner (darter)

But TSPK, I think he is good enough for 10 overs a day. His batting stats are alright too.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

But TSPK, I think he is good enough for 10 overs a day. His batting stats are alright too.

Wrt possible Test Allrounders read my post in another thread.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

He should be in the team from now onwards.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Not true at all. Against both England and West Indies he was flighting the ball and turning it away from the right hander. In LO he is forced to restrict batsmen by darting it in.

He cannot turn the ball with such a action which doesn't have ingredients to turn the ball. At max his left arm spin can just straighten that's it. It's his armer which swings in abit.

Imad has great attitude, great at tactics, swagger etc but he isn't cut for Test Cricket as an Allrounder. Well as a Test Batsman and partime spinner he could be tried but in that role we have better available options.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He cannot turn the ball with such a action which doesn't have ingredients to turn the ball. At max his left arm spin can just straighten that's it. It's his armer which swings in abit.

Imad has great attitude, great at tactics, swagger etc but he isn't cut for Test Cricket as an Allrounder. Well as a Test Batsman and partime spinner he could be tried but in that role we have better available options.

Imad does not bowl with one action. When he turned the ball, he dropped his arm.

 

[Rayyman]

Wrt possible Test Allrounders read my post in another thread.

Yeah I read it. You said Agha Salman is a better option, but he's not ready yet. He is 23 so plenty of time as a spin all-rounder. Meanwhile, Imad can be given an opportunity. Nothing wrong with that. Seeing we already gave one to Nawaz.

 

[Ellipsism]

Not true at all. Against both England and West Indies he was flighting the ball and turning it away from the right hander. In LO he is forced to restrict batsmen by darting it in.

He only turned the ball in the 3rd ODI due to the pitch- nothing on his part.

 

[captain crook]

Bump. Can Imad play tests?

Can't believe there was a thread for this

 

[babajee]

Should Imad Wasim play Test cricket?

Imad Wasim has established himself in both ODI and T20I for Pakistan. However he has a strong FC record of 41.59 with the bat and 30.85 with the ball. He could certainly be Pakistan's form of Jadeja.

 

[Rayyman]

Yes he should

 

[PakSarZameen]

not good enough

 

[Yaasir]

No where near good enough for test cricket.

 

[ahmadharis1]

I think he should at least deserve a look. He's done very well in ODI/T20 and his first class stats are actually pretty solid. If Asad Shafiq moves to #3 and Sarfraz moves up a spot, we can slot Wasim in at 7 and toss him for 10 or so overs. It would relieve some pressure off Yasir Shah as well.

 

[KhalidRafi]

To the posters who say he can't spin the ball, neither does Jadeja and he's the No.1 ranked test bowler. Not spinning the ball is part of his own tactics as a bowler in limited overs cricket. And pretty sure he can develop a new kind of plan for bowling if he is actually awarded a test cap.

 

[KhalidRafi]

I think he should at least deserve a look. He's done very well in ODI/T20 and his first class stats are actually pretty solid. If Asad Shafiq moves to #3 and Sarfraz moves up a spot, we can slot Wasim in at 7 and toss him for 10 or so overs. It would relieve some pressure off Yasir Shah as well.

Asad Shafiq at 3 is not a viable option. We tried that and he failed repeatedly.