Can India be a solution to the Afghan refugee crisis?

[HussainRx8]

I have a solution to the Afghan refugee crisis. Why doesn't India host Afghan refugees in Kashmir?

This sounds to me like a plan.

 

[Zak_Fan]

So your intelligence agency messes with Afganistan for decades, and you send the refugee to India?

No thanks.

 

[Saeed]

I have a better solution. Let them stay in their own country and help them deal with terrorists after Pakistan secures tribal areas. This way they won't have to go from one country to another.

 

[Pakpak]

So your intelligence agency messes with Afganistan for decades, and you send the refugee to India?

No thanks.

Why would Afghans come to a country that is supposedly destroying them? Its like Pakistanis running to India during an Indo-Pak conflict or Palestinians running to Israel seeking refuge. It would make no sense.

And what better way for India to expand this burgeoning friendship by accepting millions of their friends?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why would Afghans come to a country that is supposedly destroying them? Its like Pakistanis running to India during an Indo-Pak conflict or Palestinians running to Israel seeking refuge. It would make no sense.

And what better way for India to expand this burgeoning friendship by accepting millions of their friends?

I have suggested this for ages now, but I see no reason why it should be restricted to Kashmir. Why not Mumbai or Delhi? This is the least a friendly nation can do, and we all know that it's what Pakistan did during the Soviet invasion. Only problem might be that Bangladesh may feel put out that while India has raised a fence to stop Bangladeshis coming into India, how come they are inviting Afghan refugees if there is no room?

 

[LastManstanding]

After the Taliban government was toppled, India has actively participated in rebuilding efforts of Afghanistan.

Every year, about 1,000 Afghan students study in Indian universities on scholarships, and Afghan civil servants have access to Indian training institutions.The Indian government also runs a program that provides lunch meals to around 2 million Afghan school children. In addition, India has also constructed numerous field clinics and a children’s’ hospital.

The Indian firm C&C Constructions has been actively involved in the infrastructure sector in Afghanistan. It has built roads exceeding the length of 700 km in total which cost around US $250 million. Other projects include a 400-km power line, and a hydro-electricity plant.

Now, only if Pakistan stopped attacking Indian embassy there, rebuilding work would go lot faster and the Afghans wont have to leave their homeland in the first place.

 

[big_gamer007]

No thank you we are way too overpopulated as it is..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

After the Taliban government was toppled, India has actively participated in rebuilding efforts of Afghanistan.

Every year, about 1,000 Afghan students study in Indian universities on scholarships, and Afghan civil servants have access to Indian training institutions.The Indian government also runs a program that provides lunch meals to around 2 million Afghan school children. In addition, India has also constructed numerous field clinics and a children’s’ hospital.

The Indian firm C&C Constructions has been actively involved in the infrastructure sector in Afghanistan. It has built roads exceeding the length of 700 km in total which cost around US $250 million. Other projects include a 400-km power line, and a hydro-electricity plant.

Now, only if Pakistan stopped attacking Indian embassy there, rebuilding work would go lot faster and the Afghans wont have to leave their homeland in the first place.

1000 hand picked Afghan students being allowed to study under supervision in India is a drop in the ocean. There's over 18,000 Indian students in the UK alone. We haven't even touched the subject of refugees, and let's face it, that is where the real issues arise. War torn populations are fleeing death and destruction. They need refuge not student visas for the sons and daughters of the elite.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

No thank you we are way too overpopulated as it is..

But you found space for invitations to Sikhs and Hindus of Pakistan, those people weren't refugees as far as I'm aware.

 

[LastManstanding]

1000 hand picked Afghan students being allowed to study under supervision in India is a drop in the ocean. There's over 18,000 Indian students in the UK alone. We haven't even touched the subject of refugees, and let's face it, that is where the real issues arise. War torn populations are fleeing death and destruction. They need refuge not student visas for the sons and daughters of the elite.

But you found space for invitations to Sikhs and Hindus of Pakistan, those people weren't refugees as far as I'm aware.

This is the problem Captain, if Hindus and Sikhs weren't being chased away from Pakistan and Bangladesh by majority there, our hands wouldn't be full, and we could have considered taking the Afghans.

Many muslim brothers would be willing to help Afghans due to unmah, unlike the Hindus and Sikhs for whom India is the only ray of hope.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This is the problem Captain, if Hindus and Sikhs weren't being chased away from Pakistan and Bangladesh by majority there, our hands wouldn't be full, and we could have considered taking the Afghans.

Many muslim brothers would be willing to help Afghans due to unmah, unlike the Hindus and Sikhs for whom India is the only ray of hope.

So in reality India is more inclined to be welcoming to Sikhs and Hindus from Pakistan than war-torn refugees from Afghanistan. The extent of the "friendship" revealed.

 

[LastManstanding]

So in reality India is more inclined to be welcoming to Sikhs and Hindus from Pakistan than war-torn refugees from Afghanistan. The extent of the "friendship" revealed.

You do realize that many Hindus who flee from Pakistan or Bangladesh do because they fear for their lives. So, how are they different from refugees of war-torn countries?

And there are no friends in politics Captain, I thought Pakistan US relationship over these 60 years would have taught you that.

 

[Varun]

I would love to. They can come en masse and whip up their lip smacking cuisine day and night, and we'd never get enough of it. If they have any guys who can run fast and hurl leather, we can chuck out Ishant from our team too - double whammy!

There's just one teensy-weensy problem in all this. It is thus: We have 1,373,469,219 people out here already. And I don't know about you, but I have no interest in have that burgeon to a heart stopping 1,386,722,590!

So I guess thanks but no thanks, for now.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I would love to. They can come en masse and whip up their lip smacking cuisine day and night, and we'd never get enough of it. If they have any guys who can run fast and hurl leather, we can chuck out Ishant from our team too - double whammy!

There's just one teensy-weensy problem in all this. It is thus: We have 1,373,469,219 people out here already. And I don't know about you, but I have no interest in have that burgeon to a heart stopping 1,386,722,590!

So I guess thanks but no thanks, for now.

I hear ya bro. This is exactly the same situation for us in the UK. We would LOVE to take in more Afghans and even more Indians as requested by Modi ji, but despite it's name, Great Britain isn't really that big. We are overcrowded and we need jobs for our own people, hence the world shattering Brexit vote. So let me echo....thanks but no thanks....for now!

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Yes India can be a solution to the Afghan refugee crisis - by spending billions of dollars, as they've done in the past and will do in the future, to help rebuild Afghanistan so that it's stable enough for refugees to return back there. The Chinese are doing the same.

While some nations are sending economic aid into Afghanistan others are sending militants in that direction and making the lives of so many Afghans worse.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yes India can be a solution to the Afghan refugee crisis - by spending billions of dollars, as they've done in the past and will do in the future, to help rebuild Afghanistan so that it's stable enough for refugees to return back there. The Chinese are doing the same.

While some nations are sending economic aid into Afghanistan others are sending militants in that direction and making the lives of so many Afghans worse.

Since Pakistan and India seem to share the same goal in making Afghanistan stable enough for refugees to return there (from Pakistan which is currently hosting them in their millions) then you would think that both countries could work on this common goal together. Especially as it's clear even from Indian posters on here that they have no wish to take on the refugee crisis that Pakistan has been burdened with for the last few decades.

 

[big_gamer007]

But you found space for invitations to Sikhs and Hindus of Pakistan, those people weren't refugees as far as I'm aware.

I wouldn't want any of them either.. People can have different opinions than their government you do understand that don't you?

 

[Slog]

So your intelligence agency messes with Afganistan for decades, and you send the refugee to India?

No thanks.

Yes Pakistan is responsible for Soviet invasion....

 

[Slog]

Afghans probably wont enjoy it and do what they do best - be namak haraams

Also their inherent racism against Hindus and people who they consider subcontinental (including Pakistanis btw) will come out and for all of India to see. Its all fine writing lovey dovey posts on the internet

theres so many quotes from people who afghans glorify against hindus and what is india today

 

[Saeed]

I have suggested this for ages now, but I see no reason why it should be restricted to Kashmir. Why not Mumbai or Delhi? This is the least a friendly nation can do, and we all know that it's what Pakistan did during the Soviet invasion. Only problem might be that Bangladesh may feel put out that while India has raised a fence to stop Bangladeshis coming into India, how come they are inviting Afghan refugees if there is no room?

I doubt Hindustan wants Muslims from Afghanistan in their country. India is only their counter Pakistani influence, not because they care about Afghanistan. Pakistan should stop being foolish and work with the Afghan government to stablize the region.

 

[Moiza]

Afghani race is by far the most thankless and arrogant species on earth, they call it pride but in fact it's plain shamelessness. Yesterday I had the pleasure of talking a guy working at an afghani burger shop and I was stunned at his and other worker's arrogance. Despite being poor and immigrants in the country they have the guts to talk crap about Pakistan and consider themselves as separate from us "Pakistanis". I would generally stay away from generalization of soo many people but to this I'm yet to meet an afghani who would consider himself as a part of the country which is their home for some time now. And I was an opposer of the idea of kicking out all the afghanis but now I think we should do it ASAP.

And on this subject matter, I wouldn't want a race like afghanis in India either. I don't dislike India as much yet.

 

[Moiza]

India should consider itself lucky to not be sharing a border with them.

 

[Saeed]

India should consider itself lucky to not be sharing a border with them.

But they share a border with Pakistan, which is inhabited by people like you. No wonder so much hate comes out of Pakistan.

 

[Moiza]

But they share a border with Pakistan, which is inhabited by people like you. No wonder so much hate comes out of Pakistan.

I actually have no dislike for Indians at all, this sub continental hatred is an election propaganda more than anything and I hope one day the countries learn to live in peace.

Afghans are a totally different story all together. Maybe you haven't had first hand experience of dealing with this ungrateful species yet so you might be thinking of me as some sort of an extremist but they day you actually talk to an afghani settled in Pakistan and when you hear and see the arrogance and disgusting they have for Pakistan and Pakistanis then you will understand my sentiments.

 

[Moiza]

And I pray to God that one day afghanis will rid themselves of the pretence that they are some sort of royal race with royal blood which will stay this way till all eternity.

 

[Saeed]

I actually have no dislike for Indians at all, this sub continental hatred is an election propaganda more than anything and I hope one day the countries learn to live in peace.

Afghans are a totally different story all together. Maybe you haven't had first hand experience of dealing with this ungrateful species yet so you might be thinking of me as some sort of an extremist but they day you actually talk to an afghani settled in Pakistan and when you hear and see the arrogance and disgusting they have for Pakistan and Pakistanis then you will understand my sentiments.

Speak for yourself, my town in Pakistan has plenty of Afghan refugees. I don't really care what they have to say about Pakistan. I expect such behavior from uneducated people and have the ability to tolerate it. Their behavior will change once they live in a good environment. What I can't tolerate is when educated people living in peace act like knuckle draggers.

 

[Moiza]

Speak for yourself, my town in Pakistan has plenty of Afghan refugees. I don't really care what they have to say about Pakistan. I expect such behavior from uneducated people and have the ability to tolerate it. Their behavior will change once they live in a good environment. What I can't tolerate is when educated people living in peace act like knuckle draggers.

Well when a country gives you shelter, food, jobs, security etc then it's our right to have ourselves and our country respected, that's they least they can do for the things Pakistan did for them while their country turned into hell. I don't mind Afghanistan getting friendly with India and India helping them out, good on India for doing this because in the long run stability there will also help us but what is wrong with the afghani who grew up here and haven't even seen their country till date? Their country is slowly getting and all of a sudden they have the guys to talk crap about Pakistan and it'd people? And since they are so excited about it we should make it easier for them by showing them their way to the border.

All in all I hate them because of their shamelessness for not respecting the country that has been its home for many years. If I lived in India and India treated me the way afghanis have been treated then I would certainly respect India more than these ungrateful people respect Pakistan.

 

[ahmedzee]

Its true. India can definitely give what Pakistan have been giving to Afghanistan since 1979 (Soviet War):

- Food & Shelter to Millions of Afghans
- Citizenship to millions
- Safe passage for them to apply as Pakistanis and go overseas (to UK, Canada, US, etc)
- Education
- Opportunities in terms of businesses

Again, why do the Afghans hate Pakistan (and not Russia or USA)?

Would be really good that all the refugees can go to India, as they mingle with them way more and love the Indians.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

Guys i have a idea why not india takes afgan refugees and we take Rohingya muslims from burma these poor people need more help then those afgani refugees.

 

[Yossarian]

There's just one teensy-weensy problem in all this. It is thus: We have 1,373,469,219 people out here already. And I don't know about you, but I have no interest in have that burgeon to a heart stopping 1,386,722,590!

Just give it a few months. I've every confidence that your countrymen will get to that 1,386,722,590 figure all on their own, without an Afghan in sight, ....
What you need to worry about is that it's not going to stop there but keep on going... and going.. and...

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I have a solution to the Afghan refugee crisis. Why doesn't India host Afghan refugees in Kashmir?

This sounds to me like a plan.

India has no right to settle Indians in Kashmir... let alone foreigners. Same applies to Pakistan as well. If you are not from AJK, try buying land there and see how far you get.

Perhaps they should settle them in the model state of Gujarat.... and it's close to the Pakistani border.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Let me just say one thing...

'Duur kay Dhol Suhanay.......'

By all means India, please take all the refugees from Pakistan and Afghanistan in India and let them enjoy the biggest democracy in the world !! Win win for everyone here. We'd get back our transport / fruit / vegetable and many other businesses back while 2 million leaches would be off from the must important tax payer money.

BY ALL MEANS !!

 

[Pakistanian]

As much as many Afghans may dislike Pakistan, they do know that deep down Pakistan is a better fit for them than India. We need to integrate the Afghan refugees in Pakistan, if we give them an incentive to trust us, to put down roots and assimilate then perhaps we could fix the problems between Pakistan & Afghanistan.

 

[Smiling Creed]

This is a brilliant idea, if any Afghan needs to come over to India, India need to provide sanctuary to all such people. This should be sponsored by UN. UN needs to create a corridor to connect Afghanistan with India, which should be manned by UN peace keeping forces. Any Afghan who wishes to come to India, will be required to travel without any papers through the corridor and then ask for asylum at India's border. Any country wishing to use the corridor for any mean apart from India and Afghanistan will be required to pay and use.

What a wonderful idea.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This is a brilliant idea, if any Afghan needs to come over to India, India need to provide sanctuary to all such people. This should be sponsored by UN. UN needs to create a corridor to connect Afghanistan with India, which should be manned by UN peace keeping forces. Any Afghan who wishes to come to India, will be required to travel without any papers through the corridor and then ask for asylum at India's border. Any country wishing to use the corridor for any mean apart from India and Afghanistan will be required to pay and use.

What a wonderful idea.

If it's such a wonderful idea then what's stopping you? How come the deeds don't match the words?

 

[Smiling Creed]

If it's such a wonderful idea then what's stopping you? How come the deeds don't match the words?

There is a small issue of creating a passage from Afghanistan's eastern border to India's western border, which should be exclusive to both the countries to be manned by UN. It depends on how the country in between reacts.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There is a small issue of creating a passage from Afghanistan's eastern border to India's western border, which should be exclusive to both the countries to be manned by UN. It depends on how the country in between reacts.

Did your govt take any steps to propose such a solution to "the country in between"?

 

[AFG_Brit]

Its true. India can definitely give what Pakistan have been giving to Afghanistan since 1979 (Soviet War):

- Food & Shelter to Millions of Afghans
- Citizenship to millions
- Safe passage for them to apply as Pakistanis and go overseas (to UK, Canada, US, etc)
- Education
- Opportunities in terms of businesses

Again, why do the Afghans hate Pakistan (and not Russia or USA)?

Would be really good that all the refugees can go to India, as they mingle with them way more and love the Indians.

Hi, can you please share some news regarding the "food" that Pakistan has been giving to Afghan refugees over these years?

How many afghans have been given Pakistani citizenship officially? Not the fake ones which are being cancelled by curent pak government and the afghans who thought they had Pakistani ID cards or nationality are being deported. You said millions but I have no knowledge of even a few thousands!

I have asked this many times but everyone keeps ignoring this because no one seems to have an answer. Why have these 3 million illegal refugees / illegal immigrants not been given an opportunity to become legal residents and integrate in Pakistani society?

I know afghans have been able to get education in Pakistani private schools ( they have paid for it and isn't free) without documents, but the question here is, why not give them documents so they can settle down after they have graduated? Why just leave them in no man's land so whenever the government wants they can kick them out? This has been the story for over 30 years.

I know many afghans who want to travel these days can apply for different visas etc . However, those afghans who have lived in Pakistan or were born in Pakistan have had to go back to Afghanistan and start everything all over again.

All this things give a negative image of Pakistan to afghans. No one likes two faced people who like to give from one hand and then hit you from the back when opportunity arises.

All these afghans will go back to Afghanistan if we have peace and security in Afghanistan. For that to happen Pakistan has to change their foreign policy towards Afghanistan. I think everyone should work for a better Afghanistan then no one will need to worry about afghan refugees.

Wether it's india or Pakistan, no one should be burdened with this as they have their own people to look after. Unfortunately, afghans have no choice but to run otherwise why would anyone be at a place where they are not wanted or liked?

 

[AFG_Brit]

I hear ya bro. This is exactly the same situation for us in the UK. We would LOVE to take in more Afghans and even more Indians as requested by Modi ji, but despite it's name, Great Britain isn't really that big. We are overcrowded and we need jobs for our own people, hence the world shattering Brexit vote. So let me echo....thanks but no thanks....for now!

Did you know that in the past 2 years there have been more requests for asylum from Pakistanis in U.K. then from Afghans. Why do you think that is?

Pakistan is safe

Pakistan is not being occupied by any other nation

It has a strong army and economy

It's a democratic country

However, Afghanistan is no where near achieving all the above points.

 

[Smiling Creed]

Did your govt take any steps to propose such a solution to "the country in between"?

Indian government will be more than willing to accept the proposal, but bifurcating the land mass between India and Afghanistan through peaceful process is not easy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Did you know that in the past 2 years there have been more requests for asylum from Pakistanis in U.K. then from Afghans. Why do you think that is?

Pakistan is safe

Pakistan is not being occupied by any other nation

It has a strong army and economy

It's a democratic country

However, Afghanistan is no where near achieving all the above points.

Not really sure why you are telling me about Pakistan, the post you are replying to was about the UK and it's inability to take in more immigrants. The people voted Brexit and that campaign was built largely on stopping immigration wherever it was from.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Indian government will be more than willing to accept the proposal, but bifurcating the land mass between India and Afghanistan through peaceful process is not easy.

Can you provide some evidence that Indian govt would make this proposal or has any inclination to accept Afghan refugees either from Afghanistan or those currently being provided shelter in Pakistan? Because if not, stop giving misleading statements on their behalf.

 

[Smiling Creed]

Can you provide some evidence that Indian govt would make this proposal or has any inclination to accept Afghan refugees either from Afghanistan or those currently being provided shelter in Pakistan? Because if not, stop giving misleading statements on their behalf.

Yes the evidence is there, but it will be provided to credible source who represent government. Do you?

 

[babareazam1]

WHy should anyone leave Afghanistan?They should go back to Afghanistan from Pakistan and afghanistan should find a space for them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yes the evidence is there, but it will be provided to credible source who represent government. Do you?

So no you can't provide any evidence. Thanks.

 

[ahmedzee]

Hi, can you please share some news regarding the "food" that Pakistan has been giving to Afghan refugees over these years?

How many afghans have been given Pakistani citizenship officially? Not the fake ones which are being cancelled by curent pak government and the afghans who thought they had Pakistani ID cards or nationality are being deported. You said millions but I have no knowledge of even a few thousands!

I have asked this many times but everyone keeps ignoring this because no one seems to have an answer. Why have these 3 million illegal refugees / illegal immigrants not been given an opportunity to become legal residents and integrate in Pakistani society?

I know afghans have been able to get education in Pakistani private schools ( they have paid for it and isn't free) without documents, but the question here is, why not give them documents so they can settle down after they have graduated? Why just leave them in no man's land so whenever the government wants they can kick them out? This has been the story for over 30 years.

I know many afghans who want to travel these days can apply for different visas etc . However, those afghans who have lived in Pakistan or were born in Pakistan have had to go back to Afghanistan and start everything all over again.

All this things give a negative image of Pakistan to afghans. No one likes two faced people who like to give from one hand and then hit you from the back when opportunity arises.

All these afghans will go back to Afghanistan if we have peace and security in Afghanistan. For that to happen Pakistan has to change their foreign policy towards Afghanistan. I think everyone should work for a better Afghanistan then no one will need to worry about afghan refugees.

Wether it's india or Pakistan, no one should be burdened with this as they have their own people to look after. Unfortunately, afghans have no choice but to run otherwise why would anyone be at a place where they are not wanted or liked?

I don't know how I could take your posts seriously on this matter when you yourself (or maybe your parents) used Pakistan as a stepping stone to move to UK.

So basically Afghan refugees who are now all over Pakistan, including the whole land between Karachi and Hyderabad (which is no where close to Afghanistan) were left all hungry and go "no food"?

Again, its really hard to take your posts seriously. Afghan people are alive today because of Pakistan's compassion. I suppose if it was India next door to Afghanistan, we would've seen 50% pre-1979 Afghanistan vanish from the face of the earth.

 

[sshakir411]

truth is India's friendship with Afghanistan only benefits India in having some influence on Pakistan's western border...and to send Afghan terrorists in to Pakistan..if that wasn't the case these guys would pretend Afghanistan never existed. India has never helped a nation continuously unless there is something to benefit from that help.

 

[AFG_Brit]

I don't know how I could take your posts seriously on this matter when you yourself (or maybe your parents) used Pakistan as a stepping stone to move to UK.

So basically Afghan refugees who are now all over Pakistan, including the whole land between Karachi and Hyderabad (which is no where close to Afghanistan) were left all hungry and go "no food"?

Again, its really hard to take your posts seriously. Afghan people are alive today because of Pakistan's compassion. I suppose if it was India next door to Afghanistan, we would've seen 50% pre-1979 Afghanistan vanish from the face of the earth.

All you have to do is answer what I asked and not avoid the main point of my post. All those afghans who "found food" in Pakistan paid for it from their money, the money which went back to Pakistan economy. Not to mention the aid and money that Pakistan received from UN for hosting those refugees.

Again I will mention this, playing the double game will not help anyone. Why can't you just accept that Pakistan was involved in distablising Afghanistan ( why they did, they know better) now you shouldn't complain why the afghans migrated to Pakistan.

 

[enkidu_]

We share a religion and also a major ethnic group (Pashtuns), apart from the obvious geographical determinism : we're bound to live together, and ideally, in the best terms. There are sentiments against PK in Afghanistan but grass-roots level govt. initiatives could change the equation (to stop send terrorist for a beginning, offering citizenship and educational opportunities to Afghan refugees, finance infrastructure projects in Afghanistan, perhaps even pushing China to include it more organically in its OBOR project, etc). For those who complain about the sole monetary aspect, I'm not sure Afghan refugees are a bigger burden than our politicians which get reselected indefinitely.

Our only perennial enemies are Indians.

 

[troodon]

The biggest obstacle I feel for India to take Afghan refugees is the religion of Afghans.

I am pretty sure most would welcome Afghans if they were Hindus/Buddhists/Sikhs/Jains.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The biggest obstacle I feel for India to take Afghan refugees is the religion of Afghans.

I am pretty sure most would welcome Afghans if they were Hindus/Buddhists/Sikhs/Jains.

Well done sir for saying in two lines what others are desperately trying to dance around without much success.

 

[enkidu_]

The biggest obstacle I feel for India to take Afghan refugees is the religion of Afghans.

I am pretty sure most would welcome Afghans if they were Hindus/Buddhists/Sikhs/Jains.

Don't Kashmiri Pandits - not talking of Dalits there, but the cream of Brahmanism - still complain that they have been living in camps, decades after their forced exile from the Valley, with no real, substantial help at private or govt. level ?

 

[Madplayer]

I have a solution to the Afghan refugee crisis. Why doesn't India host Afghan refugees in Kashmir?

This sounds to me like a plan.

I'm sorry man, but who gives india a right to put pick up any tom dick harry and put them in kashmir? Why doesnt israel host palestinian refugees in Pakistan? Sounds absurd? As a kashmiri i felt the same about your "plan".

 

[Madplayer]

Don't Kashmiri Pandits - not talking of Dalits there, but the cream of Brahmanism - still complain that they have been living in camps, decades after their forced exile from the Valley, with no real, substantial help at private or govt. level ?

No help? Lmao yeah sure!