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Afghanistan-Pakistan peace talks 'failed', Pakistan minister says [Update@ Post#942]

Was Pakistan’s Kabul strike a reckless move or a necessary response?


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Imagine if instead of bombing during holy month of Ramadan we had dropped packages of ajwa kajoor and zam zam water as a symbolic gesture to the Afghan people.

I am supportive of the operations against Taliban in general but we must show more restraint in the holy month's.
 
According to Afghanistan Media's the Afghan Taliban are preparing an attack on Pakistan.

Photos and documents shared with Aamaaj News show:

• Afghan Taliban's plan for attacking Pakistani soil involves sending suicide bombers recruited from Afghan universities
• Planning for cross border attacks
• A recent internal meeting approving operations with available resources

:kp

 
Good luck to Pakistan.

They're up against mavericks who do not care about life or consequences of war.
 
I think we can summarize this thread based on what andhbakhts say as follows - as a charitable as possible:

1. When India attacks, it specifically targets terrorists and never hits civilians
2. When Pakistan attacks, it either targets civilians or kills a lot of them as collateral damage.

Right?
Yes because all the terrorist let jem Baloch to are Paksitani citizens or trained by isi itself. It's funny Pakistan blames ttp on Afghanistan when they are living and operating in Pakistan
 
Don't have the firepower or brutality of either the Soviets or the Americans, nothing Pakistan can do to a nation which hasn't already been done to it by other with much greater military strength!

Wrong we have the firepower and can use tactical nukes , chemical weapons , mustard gas , white phosphorous, or even use a cargo plane to spray roundup which is available in pakistan markets .

Soviets and America occupied the country 1000s of miles away from home


We haven't occupied afghanistan and have no intention too.

Second those wars these afgandoos used pakistan as a base to launch their resistance without pakistan help they could never have sustained a resistance war


Now borders are closed , sanctions are applied by rest of the world and no country is going to support them with billions.

If they bomb one mosque we will drop 4 or 5 500 pounders , its not going to make us default .
But it will leave 100 dead afgandoos each time which is a great result
Try using. Tactical nukes white phosphorus mustard gas ..dropping bombs won't help ...you are fighting a guirrela war...it's a home grown problem...not a Afghan problem. Taliban has lot of allies in the region including elements within Pakistan...so they will be armed pretty soon with anti aircraft technologies...not gonna be fool proof but enough to get a few down.
 
Your post is irrelevant to the points I was making.
It is becAuse Paksitan is a known sponsor of terrorism...it houses Osama hafeez ilyas masood and so on. It has most citizens sanctioned under un charter and by us department. It was bombed by us for many years. It's leaders have accepted running a dirty work racket. It has hqs of let and jem. So it is a given that those terrorists will be targeted.

Now what is happening in Pakistan is completely their citizens who are armed illiterate poor and disgruntled. So to blame Afghanistan is not right. It's a porous border...pak citizens can run and hide in the other country. It's not Afghanistan job to do Pakistan work. If pak can prove that Afghan Taliban is protecting and arming and sponsoring these guys.... then it's a different matter. But first pak should look to seal the border than carry these useless air strikes which kill no terrorists but civilians. Unlike Jen and let ..ttp doesn't run sprawling hqs with govt money and sponsorship.
 
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Pakistan denies reports of diplomatic mission withdrawal from Afghanistan

akistan’s diplomatic mission in Afghanistan has not received any instructions to leave the country, diplomatic sources said, rejecting circulating social media reports as baseless.

According to officials, embassies are not closed through rumors or informal channels, and no such step has been taken by either Pakistan or Afghanistan. Pakistan’s ambassador, Ubaid Nizamani, is currently present in Kabul, while Pakistani consulates in other Afghan cities continue to operate normally.

Sources confirmed that visa services for Afghan citizens remained active at the Pakistani embassy. They added that if the Afghan government were to take any action contrary to diplomatic norms, Pakistan would respond accordingly.

Officials reiterated that claims about Pakistan’s diplomatic mission being asked to leave Afghanistan are unfounded and not supported by any official development.


 
It is becAuse Paksitan is a known sponsor of terrorism...it houses Osama hafeez ilyas masood and so on. It has most citizens sanctioned under un charter and by us department. It was bombed by us for many years. It's leaders have accepted running a dirty work racket. It has hqs of let and jem. So it is a given that those terrorists will be targeted.

Now what is happening in Pakistan is completely their citizens who are armed illiterate poor and disgruntled. So to blame Afghanistan is not right. It's a porous border...pak citizens can run and hide in the other country. It's not Afghanistan job to do Pakistan work. If pak can prove that Afghan Taliban is protecting and arming and sponsoring these guys.... then it's a different matter. But first pak should look to seal the border than carry these useless air strikes which kill no terrorists but civilians. Unlike Jen and let ..ttp doesn't run sprawling hqs with govt money and sponsorship.
Read my initial post and then respond with something relevant.
 
Read my initial post and then respond with something relevant.
Yes you need to improve reading comprehension. I am explaining why it is ok to target Paksitan as it is a state sponsor of terrorism and Afghanistan is not. That is a direct response to your comment
 
Yes you need to improve reading comprehension. I am explaining why it is ok to target Paksitan as it is a state sponsor of terrorism and Afghanistan is not. That is a direct response to your comment
Oh, ok, now that is a more relevant comment. But can't say the same about the sanity of the comment. Perhaps it's more sane in an alternate universe. It's not even worth providing a serious reply to.
 
Oh, ok, now that is a more relevant comment. But can't say the same about the sanity of the comment. Perhaps it's more sane in an alternate universe. It's not even worth providing a serious reply to.
That's fair you don't need to agree with what I'm saying. But I did respond relevant to your comment why you might think we are being hypocritical
 
Try using. Tactical nukes white phosphorus mustard gas ..dropping bombs won't help ...you are fighting a guirrela war...it's a home grown problem...not a Afghan problem. Taliban has lot of allies in the region including elements within Pakistan...so they will be armed pretty soon with anti aircraft technologies...not gonna be fool proof but enough to get a few down.


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No country is gonna sell you high calibre weapons not even russia china or even the iranians even indians won't because wrath of the west will be too much do you really think usa and the intl body will allow proliferation of anti aircraft missiles to terroist groups and even if you have these expensive systems how will you protect them with no airforce , how will you stop pakistan not using sead missions or jamming .
And how would your idiots even operate radar systems for missiles 😄

Stick to suicide bombings, there's only one place pakistan is going to send you khwarij and kaum e loot practitioners and thats a one way ticket to hell.

Once this pti is removed inshallah you will see your demise very soon like punjab police killed over 900 criminals once a proper goverment is in kpk their police will work like punjab police and establish law and security .

There won't be guerilla warfare because you are landlocked and no supplies and your last 2 gurerilla warfare relied on pakistan and isi .

Every time you carry out these bombings pakistan will respond from its own territory without entering with mk82 500 pounders built in house and just like a few days ago they will obliterate 100s of your ghilmans

Production: Pakistani industry has manufactured and delivered over 125,000 bomb bodies, including Mk81, Mk82, Mk83, and Mk84, to various nations, including both NATO and non-NATO countries.
Manufacturing Capabilities: These bomb casings are made from forged seamless steel tubes, heat-treated for strength and fragmentation, adhering to NATO AOP-12 requirements.
 
What is the core issue here?

- Pakistan and Afghanistan are both Sunni Islamic countries - admittedly Afghanistan more Islamic than Pakistan
- The Taliban and Pakistan have traditionally been allies. The Taliban and their predecessors would not have survived without Pakistani support (occasionally financed from other countries)
- Pakistan holds Afghanistan's jugular vein in it's grasp. Afghanistan is an isolated landlocked country and needs Pakistan's support for trade and so much else. For example if Afghans even want to travel for Haj, they probably need Pakistan's infrastructure. Iran is certainly not going to help.

There are obviously points of conflict in Afghanistan's claims on land across the Durand line but why would they be supporting terrorism across the border in the country which is their only potential ally in the world?

Is the Taliban leadership unwilling or incapable of reining in the TTP and other similar groups that are focused on domestic terrorism in Pakistan and use Afghanistan as a base and refuge?

If unwilling, then maybe there is some chance this bombing campaign will work but I'd still be surprised given their history.

I actually suspect they are incapable due to not being a functioning country with a professional police and paramilitary force to enforce their writ even within their own borders especially when it comes to religious group. If that's the case, I expect a bombing campaign will have zero impact and may actually make things worse.
 
At least six policemen and a civilian were martyred and multiple others sustained injuries when Gunman targeted their mobile van in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Kohat district on Tuesday.

 
All eyes on Afghanistan.

Stop merciless killing of Afghan civilians by Pak military dictatorship.

We, the human rights watchdogs, condemn this action.

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What is the core issue here?

- Pakistan and Afghanistan are both Sunni Islamic countries - admittedly Afghanistan more Islamic than Pakistan
- The Taliban and Pakistan have traditionally been allies. The Taliban and their predecessors would not have survived without Pakistani support (occasionally financed from other countries)
- Pakistan holds Afghanistan's jugular vein in it's grasp. Afghanistan is an isolated landlocked country and needs Pakistan's support for trade and so much else. For example if Afghans even want to travel for Haj, they probably need Pakistan's infrastructure. Iran is certainly not going to help.

There are obviously points of conflict in Afghanistan's claims on land across the Durand line but why would they be supporting terrorism across the border in the country which is their only potential ally in the world?

Is the Taliban leadership unwilling or incapable of reining in the TTP and other similar groups that are focused on domestic terrorism in Pakistan and use Afghanistan as a base and refuge?

If unwilling, then maybe there is some chance this bombing campaign will work but I'd still be surprised given their history.

I actually suspect they are incapable due to not being a functioning country with a professional police and paramilitary force to enforce their writ even within their own borders especially when it comes to religious group. If that's the case, I expect a bombing campaign will have zero impact and may actually make things worse.

Lot of your claims are false i will reply to you when I have time its going to be a long post.
 
What is the core issue here?

- Pakistan and Afghanistan are both Sunni Islamic countries - admittedly Afghanistan more Islamic than Pakistan
- The Taliban and Pakistan have traditionally been allies. The Taliban and their predecessors would not have survived without Pakistani support (occasionally financed from other countries)
- Pakistan holds Afghanistan's jugular vein in it's grasp. Afghanistan is an isolated landlocked country and needs Pakistan's support for trade and so much else. For example if Afghans even want to travel for Haj, they probably need Pakistan's infrastructure. Iran is certainly not going to help.

There are obviously points of conflict in Afghanistan's claims on land across the Durand line but why would they be supporting terrorism across the border in the country which is their only potential ally in the world?

Is the Taliban leadership unwilling or incapable of reining in the TTP and other similar groups that are focused on domestic terrorism in Pakistan and use Afghanistan as a base and refuge?

If unwilling, then maybe there is some chance this bombing campaign will work but I'd still be surprised given their history.

I actually suspect they are incapable due to not being a functioning country with a professional police and paramilitary force to enforce their writ even within their own borders especially when it comes to religious group. If that's the case, I expect a bombing campaign will have zero impact and may actually make things worse.


There are clues in all of your points raised. Taliban is indeed more Islamic than Pakistan, which is more inclined to secular rule. The Durand line was always more of an issue for secular Afghans than religious and they are in a small minority. The key problem is the terror groups which both sides claim are operating from opposite sides of the border. The TTP appears to be based in Afghanistan, and indeed the Taliban were at war with them internally until recently. Perhaps they felt it was easier to let them hit Pakistan than their own territory.

The Taliban are a resistance group ideally suited for guerilla warfare. They don't seem to have either the will or the capability to clean house in Afghanistan.

The issue becomes murkier with the Pakistan leadership which is itself open to the highest bidder. The establishment does not have a good record of holding a consistent position and looking after national interest rather than vested interests. Thus you will find outsiders even siding with the much hated Taliban against Pakistan.
 
There are clues in all of your points raised. Taliban is indeed more Islamic than Pakistan, which is more inclined to secular rule. The Durand line was always more of an issue for secular Afghans than religious and they are in a small minority. The key problem is the terror groups which both sides claim are operating from opposite sides of the border. The TTP appears to be based in Afghanistan, and indeed the Taliban were at war with them internally until recently. Perhaps they felt it was easier to let them hit Pakistan than their own territory.

The Taliban are a resistance group ideally suited for guerilla warfare. They don't seem to have either the will or the capability to clean house in Afghanistan.

The issue becomes murkier with the Pakistan leadership which is itself open to the highest bidder. The establishment does not have a good record of holding a consistent position and looking after national interest rather than vested interests. Thus you will find outsiders even siding with the much hated Taliban against Pakistan.
A lot of what you state are talking points though - especially about the Pakistani leadership being up for sale. True but not relevant in this context.

The TTP obviously has allies and sympathisers in Afghanistan though from what I read, more in the Kandahar faction under Akhundzada and not necessarily in the Kabul faction which is actually running the day-to-day government and is less concerned with ideological purity and more with practical matters.

What is the Pakistan Army hoping to achieve through these strikes
1. Internal messaging i.e. look at how we're doing something about the TTP (even if it's just symbolic)? AKA the Sindoor strategy.
2. Threats...especially to the Kabul guys- get your house in order and rein in your Kandahar gang? AKA the US-Iran strategy.
3. Actual deterrence...impact the capabilities of the TTP itself and kill key leaders? AKA Israel strategy

If Sindoor...fine I suppose. Has worked in the past, could work again.
If US-Iran, they don't usually work and if they do, are usually very short term.
If Israel, they'll need to commit a lot more including possibly a ground attack.

What I'm curious is h
 
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No country is gonna sell you high calibre weapons not even russia china or even the iranians even indians won't because wrath of the west will be too much do you really think usa and the intl body will allow proliferation of anti aircraft missiles to terroist groups and even if you have these expensive systems how will you protect them with no airforce , how will you stop pakistan not using sead missions or jamming .
And how would your idiots even operate radar systems for missiles 😄

Stick to suicide bombings, there's only one place pakistan is going to send you khwarij and kaum e loot practitioners and thats a one way ticket to hell.

Once this pti is removed inshallah you will see your demise very soon like punjab police killed over 900 criminals once a proper goverment is in kpk their police will work like punjab police and establish law and security .

There won't be guerilla warfare because you are landlocked and no supplies and your last 2 gurerilla warfare relied on pakistan and isi .

Every time you carry out these bombings pakistan will respond from its own territory without entering with mk82 500 pounders built in house and just like a few days ago they will obliterate 100s of your ghilmans

Production: Pakistani industry has manufactured and delivered over 125,000 bomb bodies, including Mk81, Mk82, Mk83, and Mk84, to various nations, including both NATO and non-NATO countries.
Manufacturing Capabilities: These bomb casings are made from forged seamless steel tubes, heat-treated for strength and fragmentation, adhering to NATO AOP-12 requirements.
A bhikari qaum cannot sustain a air campaign for too long...token strikes killing civilians make the country united... While your army is handicapped per your own defense minister

The same wear armed the same Taliban ..so it will be done by Afghan allies. These bombs are not killing anyone as pak lacks satellites drones etc to identify target...these are done to show pak awam that they are not sitting on their ****...only way is to seal the border...and bring in economic prosperity
 
A lot of what you state are talking points though - especially about the Pakistani leadership being up for sale. True but not relevant in this context.

The TTP obviously has allies and sympathisers in Afghanistan though from what I read, more in the Kandahar faction under Akhundzada and not necessarily in the Kabul faction which is actually running the day-to-day government and is less concerned with ideological purity and more with practical matters.

What is the Pakistan Army hoping to achieve through these strikes
1. Internal messaging i.e. look at how we're doing something about the TTP (even if it's just symbolic)? AKA the Sindoor strategy.
2. Threats...especially to the Kabul guys- get your house in order and rein in your Kandahar gang? AKA the US-Iran strategy.
3. Actual deterrence...impact the capabilities of the TTP itself and kill key leaders? AKA Israel strategy

If Sindoor...fine I suppose. Has worked in the past, could work again.
If US-Iran, they don't usually work and if they do, are usually very short term.
If Israel, they'll need to commit a lot more including possibly a ground attack.

What I'm curious is h
The difference with sindoor is India has drones and satellites for surveillance. They are organized hqs of let and jem plus camps. Ttp is decentralized and not funded or supported directly by Afghan govt. The kashmiris terrorists are funded and sponsored by pak govt or rather pak army . So a symbolic strike against primary pak military assets as pak army and Air Force will never launch offensive actions against India after 71 and 99 has more symbolic value vs a rag tag guirrela group who will hide and have already show air campaigns are futile against them in the past. Internal messaging is ok but Balakot and sindoor has and will buy years of peace . Balakot resulted in 6 years of 0 terrorist attacks. Sindoor will result in a much longer period hopefully..I am taking strictly about pak sponsored and exported terrorism not the homegrown delhi type of attacks. On the other hand pak air campaigns have immediately brought retribution in Islamabad and elsewhere showcasing the failure and futility of the same
 
What is the core issue here?

- Pakistan and Afghanistan are both Sunni Islamic countries - admittedly Afghanistan more Islamic than Pakistan
- The Taliban and Pakistan have traditionally been allies. The Taliban and their predecessors would not have survived without Pakistani support (occasionally financed from other countries)
- Pakistan holds Afghanistan's jugular vein in it's grasp. Afghanistan is an isolated landlocked country and needs Pakistan's support for trade and so much else. For example if Afghans even want to travel for Haj, they probably need Pakistan's infrastructure. Iran is certainly not going to help.

There are obviously points of conflict in Afghanistan's claims on land across the Durand line but why would they be supporting terrorism across the border in the country which is their only potential ally in the world?

Is the Taliban leadership unwilling or incapable of reining in the TTP and other similar groups that are focused on domestic terrorism in Pakistan and use Afghanistan as a base and refuge?

If unwilling, then maybe there is some chance this bombing campaign will work but I'd still be surprised given their history.

I actually suspect they are incapable due to not being a functioning country with a professional police and paramilitary force to enforce their writ even within their own borders especially when it comes to religious group. If that's the case, I expect a bombing campaign will have zero impact and may actually make things worse.
The core issue is territorial.. Afghanistan does not recognize durrand line..it's not religious
 
Afghan Taliban initiated unprovoked firing along Pak-Afghan border: PM’s spokesperson

Mosharraf Zaidi, the prime minister’s spokesperson for foreign media, said on Tuesday said that the Afghan Taliban regime initiated unprovoked firing along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in Torkham and Tirah.

In a post on the social media platform X, he said, “Pakistan’s security forces responded immediately and effectively, silencing the Taliban aggression.”

He said that any further provocation would be responded to “immediately and severely”. He said Pakistan would “continue to protect its citizens and guard its territorial integrity”.


 
What is the core issue here?

- Pakistan and Afghanistan are both Sunni Islamic countries - admittedly Afghanistan more Islamic than Pakistan
- The Taliban and Pakistan have traditionally been allies. The Taliban and their predecessors would not have survived without Pakistani support (occasionally financed from other countries)
- Pakistan holds Afghanistan's jugular vein in it's grasp. Afghanistan is an isolated landlocked country and needs Pakistan's support for trade and so much else. For example if Afghans even want to travel for Haj, they probably need Pakistan's infrastructure. Iran is certainly not going to help.

There are obviously points of conflict in Afghanistan's claims on land across the Durand line but why would they be supporting terrorism across the border in the country which is their only potential ally in the world?

Is the Taliban leadership unwilling or incapable of reining in the TTP and other similar groups that are focused on domestic terrorism in Pakistan and use Afghanistan as a base and refuge?

If unwilling, then maybe there is some chance this bombing campaign will work but I'd still be surprised given their history.

I actually suspect they are incapable due to not being a functioning country with a professional police and paramilitary force to enforce their writ even within their own borders especially when it comes to religious group. If that's the case, I expect a bombing campaign will have zero impact and may actually make things worse.
The issue is Pakistan's establishment misread the Afghan Taliban. While their religious ideology is widely recognised, they're also a movement rooted in Afghan nationalism (hence why they're no less accepting of the Durand Line than previous regimes).

It's precisely due to Pakistan's past support that they're trying to assert their independence and refute claims they're Islamabad's puppets.

I suspect they too are playing a Pakistan-esque good terrorist/bad terrorist game in that it'll strike groups attacking its own citizens, but are unwilling to expend limited state resources towards entities attacking its neighbours. You're probably right about factionalism so who exactly directs policy is unclear.

Sadly Pakistan's establishment will face no accountability. For decades a pliant Afghan government was a primary national security pursuit. Pakistan was transformed into fertile soil for Taliban footsoldiers and ideology to achieve this goal. Gun running and drug smuggling became grew to industrial scales while Pakistan's society paid an enormous price.

That's why the image last October of a Taliban FM meeting his Indian counterpart was so humiliating. 40+ years of Afghan policy up in smoke. A border hotter than at any time even under pro-Indian Northern Alliance governments. And these generals have the nerve to strut around like god's gifts to the nation.
 
The issue is Pakistan's establishment misread the Afghan Taliban. While their religious ideology is widely recognised, they're also a movement rooted in Afghan nationalism (hence why they're no less accepting of the Durand Line than previous regimes).

It's precisely due to Pakistan's past support that they're trying to assert their independence and refute claims they're Islamabad's puppets.

I suspect they too are playing a Pakistan-esque good terrorist/bad terrorist game in that it'll strike groups attacking its own citizens, but are unwilling to expend limited state resources towards entities attacking its neighbours. You're probably right about factionalism so who exactly directs policy is unclear.

Sadly Pakistan's establishment will face no accountability. For decades a pliant Afghan government was a primary national security pursuit. Pakistan was transformed into fertile soil for Taliban footsoldiers and ideology to achieve this goal. Gun running and drug smuggling became grew to industrial scales while Pakistan's society paid an enormous price.

That's why the image last October of a Taliban FM meeting his Indian counterpart was so humiliating. 40+ years of Afghan policy up in smoke. A border hotter than at any time even under pro-Indian Northern Alliance governments. And these generals have the nerve to strut around like god's gifts to the nation.
That's a very well written explanation thank you.

It's funny that both India and Pakistan have overplayed their hand with amenable neighbours. India took the Awami league's domination and gratitude for granted and are now faced with years of work in rebuilding relationships with Bangladeshi governments that will keen to show they're not too close to India.

Pakistan assumed that the Taliban would be grateful for the support and now are facing a group that believes it doesn't owe any favours.
 
Pakistan wary of militant attacks after Afghanistan air strikes

Pakistan has boosted security and arrested dozens of suspects as it fears a rising wave of militant attacks following its air strikes in Afghanistan, Minister of State for Interior Talal Chaudhry said on Wednesday.

“Our forces are on high-alert to combat any attacks,” Chaudhry told Reuters.

“You know the militants always react whenever we go after their hideouts in Afghanistan.”

Pakistan carried out air strikes on targets in Afghanistan over the weekend on what it said were militant targets responsible for a spate of recent suicide bombings on Pakistani soil.

Islamabad blames Kabul for allowing the fighters to use Afghanistan as a safe haven. Kabul denies the charges, saying the militancy is Pakistan’s internal problem.

Pakistani and Afghan forces exchanged fire along their border on Tuesday, with each side accusing the other of initiating the clash.

There have also been a number of militant attacks, including the ambush of a police vehicle in Kohat in which five officers and two civilians were killed and a suicide bombing at a checkpoint that killed two policemen.

Chaudhry said the retaliatory attacks by militants proved Islamabad’s case that they had linkages in Afghanistan, adding that the forces had averted several attacks in recent weeks and arrested a number of suspects, including Afghans.

Security forces have accelerated search and intelligence based operations and “have arrested dozens of suspected militants, their handlers and their facilitators,” the minister said.

Multiple sources added that Pakistan’s intelligence agencies have issued alerts for a possible surge in terror attacks in Pakistan in coming days.

Urban centres, markets, security forces and places of worship could be possible targets, according to the alerts, the sources said.

“We have been given a strong caution about more terror attacks in our official communications. In this regard, we have almost doubled our search operations across Pakistan,” said an intelligence official.

Militancy is a growing problem for Pakistan with the number of attacks rising every year since 2022, according to Armed Conflict Location and Event Data (ACLED), a global monitoring organisation.

Data from ACLED shows attacks in Pakistan rose nearly fourfold to 2,425 in 2025 from 658 in 2022 and over the same period, Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) attacks increased more than seven-fold to 838 from 118.


 
Intense battle ongoing in Pak-Afghan border.

And it seems like Afghanistan moving the US era military equipment to borders that they left at the end of US-Afghan War.
 
Taliban Spox Zabihullah Mujahid claims Taliban forces have captured 7 Pakistani military posts along the Durand Line:

• 2 posts in Machin Naw (Dor Baba, Nangarhar)
• 3 posts in Anargi (Goshta district)
• 2 posts in Dokalam (Nari district, Kunar)

:kp
 
Wishing luck to Pakistan who are defending their nation against an unprecedented attack resulting in capturing of 15 Pakistani posts by Afghanistan. Hundreds of Pakistani soldiers ran away as per early reports.
 
@emranabbas

For too long Devdas has been crying for attention on this thread. We let it go for a bit because Afghanistan are no serious threat. They are boring.

Now things get real and the Cavalry has arrived, Devdas retreats to Chandarmukhi’s ghagra.
 
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