Can Pakistan avoid a 0-3 Test series whitewash at the hands of England?

[BouncerGuy]

The Pakistan cricket team is facing a crucial test as they prepare to host England for a highly anticipated Test series.

Following their unexpected loss against Bangladesh, the home side will be under immense pressure to redeem themselves.

How do you think this series will unfold, and can Pakistan overcome its recent challenges to emerge victorious?

 

[mominsaigol]

England 3-0

 

[RidiculousMan]

Doesn't look likely. Batting has always lately and will collapse in crunch moments. Even against Bangladesh we lost or couldn't drew because our batters freeze when push comes to shove.

 

[Ab Fan]

Bangladesh is a better side than England in Asia. Stokes and Woakes factor gets nullified in Asia and this gives Pakistan a good chance to forget what happened in past and proceed ahead with a test series victory at home vs England.

 

[Usman Chadda]

No.

3-0 it will be.

We don’t have the bowlers to take ten wickets on any wicket in any ground.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes.

 

[Hitman]

Yes, provided PCB prepares pitches according to their strengths. It's a shame they still haven't learnt from their mistakes. They deserve no sympathy if they prepare dead tracks for the series one more time.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Anything can happen in cricket. If players go in with the mindset that they are going to get hammered then they will.
I am hoping for a competitive series now that some of the emotion from ther Bangladesh series has gone away.

 

[Mesozoic]

Yes, provided PCB prepares pitches according to their strengths.

And what are those strengths?

Pace bowling? England has better seamers who grew up utilising seam friendly conditions.

Spinners? Leach and Bashir are better than any spinn duo Pakistan puts out.

Batting? Lol. Root alone can bury Pakistan if they prepare roads.

 

[Rajdeep]

I like how 'who will win the series' is no longer asked for Pakistan. Straight away the question is, will they avoid whitewash

I have a feeling Pakistan will surprise everyone and win this series. England cricket is on a decline and Pak players will come charged up after barrage of criticism they faced post Banglawash.

My punter hat says - Pak to beat Eng by 2-1.

Rajdeep

 

[hur rizvi]

And what are those strengths?

Pace bowling? England has better seamers who grew up utilising seam friendly conditions.

Spinners? Leach and Bashir are better than any spinn duo Pakistan puts out.

Batting? Lol. Root alone can bury Pakistan if they prepare roads.

Strength or not we know that England struggle most on spin pitches. They have better spinners sure but preparing spin and reverse swing friendly pitches is the way to go if Pakistan want to be remotely competitive.

Remember last time England toured, only competitive match was Multan test which was a spinners pitch

 

[Hitman]

And what are those strengths?

That's for PCB to decide according to their team composition.

 

[gazza619]

Pakistan usually does ok when all odds are against them.

 

[Mesozoic]

Strength or not we know that England struggle most on spin pitches. They have better spinners sure but preparing spin and reverse swing friendly pitches is the way to go if Pakistan want to be remotely competitive.

Remember last time England toured, only competitive match was Multan test which was a spinners pitch

England only struggles against top class spinners like Ashwin, Kuldeep, Jadeja etc. They won 3-0 and 2-0 on their last two tours of Sri Lanka on some of the most spin friendly surfaces you'll ever see. You know why? Because SL have mediocre spinners..so do Pakistan.

But yes I do agree that the chances of beating England on spin friendly wickets are relatively higher than on pace/batting friendly surfaces. Not sure that can be termed as "strength" for Pakistan though.

 

[hur rizvi]

England only struggles against top class spinners like Ashwin, Kuldeep, Jadeja etc. They won 3-0 and 2-0 on their last two tours of Sri Lanka on some of the most spin friendly surfaces you'll ever see. You know why? Because SL have mediocre spinners..so do Pakistan.

But yes I do agree that the chances of beating England on spin friendly wickets are relatively higher than on pace/batting friendly surfaces. Not sure that can be termed as "strength" for Pakistan though.

Never called it Pakistan strength. This Pakistan team has no strength in any department. England are relatively weak against spin, obviously "relatively" being the key word. It's just about playing the percentages, Pakistan have no chance on flatbeds or seamer friendly pitches. On spin friendly pitches English ultra aggressive approach might backfire.

 

[shokz1408]

I don’t know about 3-0 but England will win the series.

 

[pakistani pride]

another 0 - 3 is waiting.
These guys are so shameless they will just keep hanging around.

I mean after the losses the team faced last year. At leas 6 should have retired and left the game, IF they had some self respect.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Don't know about series results. But whatever pak have shown in spin department in recent times, Yassir Shah is better than all of them - Combined. I am not sure about his age or fitness or if retired, but fact is Angrez teams dont play leg spin, surely not that flash in Asian sc conditions. If no quality spinner and if pace performs same like against the bangla boys, it will be uphill struggle for pak.

 

[Bhaijaan]

2-1 Pakistan.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Make extremely flat wickets and you may not lose 3-0.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Clean sweep loading... Pakistan fails to learn lessons, selects misfiring squad

 

[gazza619]

2-1 Pakistan.

That is a curse which will ensure that Naqvi and his future generations are in charge of PCB.

 

[batandballbattle]

Might get a draw on one of the roads dished out. Could be 2-0 instead

 

[sweep_shot]

I think we may see 1 draw (or even 2 draws).

England are no longer as strong as before. They have declined.

 

[Bhaijaan]

That is a curse which will ensure that Naqvi and his future generations are in charge of PCB.

The graph has been going down only for a long time , it has to pick up at some point , especially while playing at home.

I think they were complacent and rather careless to go for a bold declaration in the first test. Had that not happened, Bangladesh would never have been able to sniff victory.

England is all Joe Root, the rest of their batters are overrated.

 

[gazza619]

The graph has been going down only for a long time , it has to pick up at some point , especially while playing at home.

I think they were complacent and rather careless to go for a bold declaration in the first test. Had that not happened, Bangladesh would never have been able to sniff victory.

England is all Joe Root, the rest of their batters are overrated.

I beg to differ. I am expecting some heavy scores from Ben Duckett & Harry Brookes and that too at a fast pace.

 

[sweep_shot]

England is all Joe Root, the rest of their batters are overrated.

England have some good young batters.

Duckett, Crawley, Pope, Brook etc.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The graph has been going down only for a long time , it has to pick up at some point , especially while playing at home.

I think they were complacent and rather careless to go for a bold declaration in the first test. Had that not happened, Bangladesh would never have been able to sniff victory.

England is all Joe Root, the rest of their batters are overrated.

Ben duckett and brook are more dangerous than root atm. Root is a soft run scorer. Other guys are always the main guys for bazball.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Dont know about the result.

Just know that Babar will be missing most of the series only to strike a lazy 100 at the fag end which doesnt affect the result and be labelled "ATG" and "World Class".

 

[jnaveen1980]

In the last 3 years number of times teams have taken 10 wickets in an innings

England 58 out of 37 tests
Australia 52 out of 32 tests
India 41 out of 26 tests
Sri Lanka 33 out of 24 tests
New zealand 32 out of 23 tests
South Africa 29 out of 21 tests
Banglaesh 26 out of 22 tests
West Indies 25 out of 22 tests
Pakistan 24 out of 19 tests

Three teams that struggle to take 20 wickets from this list are BD/WI/Pakistan.

 

[Buffet]

Yes, it can. Not often home teams gets whitewashed in 3 tests series.

 

[mominsaigol]

Yes, provided PCB prepares pitches according to their strengths. It's a shame they still haven't learnt from their mistakes. They deserve no sympathy if they prepare dead tracks for the series one more time.

They can't even play on dead tracks? What exactly is their strength atm? The truth is pakistan is far far behind in the skill department.

You can have uganda prepare the perfect pitch in their home country that suits they but they'll still have a flat chance in hell of beating aus, Eng and India lol.

It's no longer 2016 sadly where YK, Misbah, Azhar, Shafiq, Sarfi, shehzad could all play spin perfectly but were mediocre against pace hence they deliberately prepared spin tracks that offered zero seam movement and beat Australia accordingly since Australia vs Afghanistan has shown that Australia struggles immensely against quakity spin.

Current Pakistan will lose if they prepare spin tracks as the players can play spin, They'll lose if they prepare seam tracks as they can't handle seam and raw pace, They'll lose if they prepare bilo bounce aussie pitches as we saw in the Australia series, They'll lose if they prepare dead tracks as they can't compete in bazzball, they'll lose if they prepare a balanced WI pitch.

Case in point, They'll lose, They'll lose, They'll lose. End of story.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

England could select a team from the local pub and they’ll still be favourites to win the series.

England could play their blind team and we’d still be fighting for a draw.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

The way they performed against Bangladesh only rain can save them from a whitewash.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The way they performed against Bangladesh only rain can save them from a whitewash.

Lol is this quote from baba basit?

 

[hassan918]

A series victory for England is most likely outcome of the series but I don't think it will be a 0-3 win for England. Pakistan should be able to win/draw at least one match.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Yeah it's too simple, play like a normal decent team but for that they need to fulfill the big IF

 

[moghul]

Yes, provided PCB prepares pitches according to their strengths. It's a shame they still haven't learnt from their mistakes. They deserve no sympathy if they prepare dead tracks for the series one more time.

" provided PCB prepares pitches according to their strength "

And what is " their strength" , I'm just curious , as I am not aware of any .

 

[moghul]

0-3 on the card , sadly October is not a rainy season in Pakistan

 

[sweep_shot]

I think England may win 2-1 or 2-0.

I expect a draw or a Pakistan win in one of the Tests.

 

[Dhakar Pola]

I am having a feeling that series will be 2-1 to Pakistan unless any rain

 

[deltexas]

Anything other than a 3-0 victory for Eng will be a disappointment for them.

 

[Devadwal]

No way they are winning the series so forget about clean sweep.

England bowling is very poor and bazball already exposed in india.

I think pakistan to win 2-1 .

Anything other than a 3-0 victory for Eng will be a disappointment for them.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

If England don't win 3-0, then Bazball will be completely exposed .

Pakistan is the easiest place to win an away series currently.

It's tougher to beat WI, BD, SL, NZ, SA away

So there's more pressure on Bazball than on PAK.

There's no pressure on PAK who knows they are minnows and can play free, aggressive cricket.

 

[Justcrazy]

Yes, provided PCB prepares pitches according to their strengths. It's a shame they still haven't learnt from their mistakes. They deserve no sympathy if they prepare dead tracks for the series one more time.

Pakistan has NO strengths , whatever they prepare , England will have advantage.

 

[Hitman]

Pakistan has NO strengths , whatever they prepare , England will have advantage.

Let's take your word as truth. Don't you think preparing complete dead tracks at home is a recipe of disaster?

 

[Mamoon]

If England don't win 3-0, then Bazball will be completely exposed .

Pakistan is the easiest place to win an away series currently.

It's tougher to beat WI, BD, SL, NZ, SA away

So there's more pressure on Bazball than on PAK.

There's no pressure on PAK who knows they are minnows and can play free, aggressive cricket.

Bazball is already exposed but this is flawed logic (common theme with Indian posters these days tbh) because Bazball has already achieved a 3-0 whitewash in Pakistan two years ago.

It is not reasonable to expect them to do the same again and they don’t need to do it again either. They have already ticked that box, but failure to turn their fortunes around in India and in the Ashes exposed Bazball.

Indians seems to have a special problem with Bazball, perhaps mainly because it cost them a series win in England. They were ready to flex when they returned to England for the final Test with a 2-1 lead only to run into Bazball and they didn’t know what hit them.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Bazball is already exposed but this is flawed logic (common theme with Indian posters these days tbh) because Bazball has already achieved a 3-0 whitewash in Pakistan two years ago.

It is not reasonable to expect them to do the same again and they don’t need to do it again either. They have already ticked that box, but failure to turn their fortunes around in India and in the Ashes exposed Bazball.

Indians seems to have a special problem with Bazball, perhaps mainly because it cost them a series win in England. They were ready to flex when they returned to England for the final Test with a 2-1 lead only to run into Bazball and they didn’t know what hit them.

Indians didn't seem to have so much a problem with Bazball as much as you did to be fair.

Also, Shaheen and Naseem didn't play the full series last time.

This time they'll be against the full might of the Pakistani bowling attack

 

[NishanKonar]

Anything less than 3-0 will be an embarrassment for England

This Pakistan test side reminds me of Bangladesh of early 2000s. Absolutely woeful in every department. Their batter cannot bat. Their bowlers cannot take wickets.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

very unlikely!

when Bangladesh can get them down quite easily then 3-0 is not even a challange for England.

 

[mominsaigol]

Make extremely flat wickets and you may not lose 3-0.

England would bazzball and do the same thing they did last time. Score 600 to 700 on day 1 ans have pakistan chase 4 days and bowl em out 2x.

 

[Justcrazy]

Let's take your word as truth. Don't you think preparing complete dead tracks at home is a recipe of disaster?

If I was in Pakistan management and have to take a chance I would prepare rank Turner , which will turn from the go. Go in with two specialist spinner and two spin bowling all rounders.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Make extremely flat wickets and you may not lose 3-0.

Yeah, they went with the same strategy against Bangladesh.. and rest is history!

 

[Buffet]

Pakistan should aim to humiliate Bangladesh and England​

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Can Pakistan avoid a 0-3 Test series whitewash at the hands of England?​

Pakistan can draw or even win if Pakistan has normal pitches. On flat roads , I think Eng will simply outbat Pakistan and Pakistan will be just chasing the game entire 5 days. Have a normal turning tracks with full 2-3 spinners. Not those part time ones. Yes they are not world class, but far better situation than serving roads to Eng. Eng bats best on roads, Eng can't bat well on non-flat surfaces.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yeah, they went with the same strategy against Bangladesh.. and rest is history!

Those wickets were not as flat as we expected TBH. But I don't think that flat-wicket strategy can work against England. Their batters are gonna make a game out of nowhere by playing bazball kind of cricket and can take the game away in 30-40 overs.

Pakistan should try to find even in their strength which is nowhere to be seen atm. Pakistan has no real strength in any department.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Pakistan is at an all-time low across formats so yes, another whitewash is on the cards. 2014-2016 was a peak low time for Pakistan in white ball but they were still a great Test side. Right now, its just bad across all formats and its not just one aspect they are falling short in, the team is simply bad bowling side, very mediocre batting side and one of the worst fielding sides in in International cricket.

The only hope is players remember the countless amounts of losing vs England in Tests, ODI's & T20's and WC final that maybe it instills some fight in them but I doubt it. When was the last time Pakistan won a series vs England in any format? 2015 Test match series (and no, 1 off T20 win in 2016 doesn't count as a series win)? Nearly a decade without a series win in any bi-lateral format.