Can Pakistan save the 1st Test against Bangladesh?

[MenInG]

Sounds silly but very soon Pakistan batters will need to make sure they make this game safe.

That in itself is tricky when it comes to Pakistan.

So, hold on to your hats.

 

[sweep_shot]

It should be a draw.

Pitch is too flat.

 

[shaz619]

I think BD can cause some panic if they take a few early wickets and let the spinners do the heavy lifting.

This is one of the best BD Test sides I’ve ever seen, excusing the Pindi pitch they deserve some credit; they have a solid game plan and all basis covered, even a 6ft pacy bowler which is not the norm for them.

They seem to know Pakistani conditions better than Pakistani’s….

 

[mominsaigol]

More like of Bangladesh can save it or not.

It's 95% draw or 5% Bangladesh wins

 

[MenInG]

Challo jee.

Saim departs.

 

[MenInG]

Even if they get through without further loss, the first hour tomorrow will be a tough one.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Depends on where there are cracks for spinners to exploit.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Let’s remain hopeful.
If Pakistan scores 200 quick runs in 1.5 sessions tomorrow and bowl Bangladesh out for 70-80 runs they can win this test. I was able to imagine this thanks to habits I have developed while following our ambitious leader PM Modi. Always remain hopeful. Opportunities are endless.

 

[RidiculousMan]

No. They will get out to Sir Shoriful tomorrow in 10 overs. Better to not watch tomorrow.

 

[Energy]

Pakistan are playing for a draw anyway from the start.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

BD bowling is awful after these 2. Unless the pitch crumbles, no chance for BD. They can't even dream of a win here.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Does it matter? Even a draw is like a win for Bangladesh. And that's nothing against Bangladesh and the way they have played in this match. But if you look at their track-record they have generally been a rubbish test side.

Have to tip your hat though to the Pakistan Cricket Team, PCB, Selectors and curators for killing test cricket in Pakistan. Can't believe we waited 10 years to see garbage pitches and even more atrocious performances like these.

As a fan, watching this series has been painful. As if the WT20 wasn't painful enough.

RIP Test cricket in Pakistan. Don't think I'll be watching the remainder of this series. Adios.

 

[MenInG]

Got out of jail type faces...

 

[The_KING]

a disgrace that we are even talking about Pakistan saving a test match against Bangladesh. What a sad fall from grace.

 

[Dhakar Pola]

BD bowling is awful after these 2. Unless the pitch crumbles, no chance for BD. They can't even dream of a win here.

I don't think BD is dreaming of win here. Seemed like the team played for a draw

 

[emranabbas]

I think BD can cause some panic if they take a few early wickets and let the spinners do the heavy lifting.

This is one of the best BD Test sides I’ve ever seen, excusing the Pindi pitch they deserve some credit; they have a solid game plan and all basis covered, even a 6ft pacy bowler which is not the norm for them.

They seem to know Pakistani conditions better than Pakistani’s….

I don't think this is one of the best BD test side its just a poor Pakistani side ever

saim ayub, Abdullah Shafiq, babar azam, shan masood all failed.. bowlers also are toothless

 

[Kianig89]

Shameful, our bowling has regressed beyond repair inexplicable

 

[mominsaigol]

I think BD can cause some panic if they take a few early wickets and let the spinners do the heavy lifting.

This is one of the best BD Test sides I’ve ever seen, excusing the Pindi pitch they deserve some credit; they have a solid game plan and all basis covered, even a 6ft pacy bowler which is not the norm for them.

They seem to know Pakistani conditions better than Pakistani’s….

Lol no, the sides from 2012-2016 were far far superior to this one, and if we're going back to the 1990's and early 2000's, then defo them.

Bangladesh has regressed, their now just a side that play cricket mostly for the sake of it.

The reality is Pakistan is just a rubbish team.

2017 team had a captain who had experience winning tournaments in foreign conditions, had a uae PSL where lots of Youngsters got exposed to foreign conditions and became better as a result, And the whole team atmosphere was to play an aggressive brand of cricket.

That's why you saw seemingly medicore cricketers like hafeez go from tuk tuk opener to a gun no 4, and why shehzad who was once pur priemrw opener faded for Fakhar.

Even azhar played quick, It shows that even tuk tuk batters can become lightning mcgurk if you motivate them correctly and peak their confidence.

Current Pakistan has none of that, theirs no actual leader, Shan can't lead, Babar can't lead, rizzu can't lead. The coaches are disinterested and the management nor the captain gel well. Mickey Arthur is a medicore coach but his record looks 100× better then Kristen because he gelled with sarfi better.

Pakistan has no guidance, they play without any clear plan which unfortunately is the misbah style of cricket. Seriously what is their plan? To hang in their?

And lastly these crapola pitches and going back to pakistan had done massive damage.

Everything from captaincy, to coaching to Management have all gone down the drain ever since the focus shifted from sarfi/mickey and UAE to Misbah/ramiz/naqvi/wahab/babar/ Shan and playing within pakiatan when pakistan is in no condition to actually host a series let alone a tournament.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I don't think BD is dreaming of win here. Seemed like the team played for a draw

If draw was the objective, they shouldn't have tried to hit out. Should've just kept Pakistan on the field as long as possible.

 

[Dhakar Pola]

If draw was the objective, they shouldn't have tried to hit out. Should've just kept Pakistan on the field as long as possible.

Only one guy tried to hit and got out. He just came from playing the Canada T20 and there he hit couple of 6s. I predicted he would try do the same and did it. There isn't much brain in our players.

 

[Bewal Express]

With Babar short of form and confidence alot will depend will depend on Shaan. If it happens, This defeat will be the worst at home since we lost to Zimbabwe in 1998 with a team that couldn't defend 240

 

[Dhakar Pola]

Lol no, the sides from 2012-2016 were far far superior to this one, and if we're going back to the 1990's and early 2000's, then defo them.

Bangladesh has regressed, their now just a side that play cricket mostly for the sake of it.

The reality is Pakistan is just a rubbish team.

2017 team had a captain who had experience winning tournaments in foreign conditions, had a uae PSL where lots of Youngsters got exposed to foreign conditions and became better as a result, And the whole team atmosphere was to play an aggressive brand of cricket.

That's why you saw seemingly medicore cricketers like hafeez go from tuk tuk opener to a gun no 4, and why shehzad who was once pur priemrw opener faded for Fakhar.

Even azhar played quick, It shows that even tuk tuk batters can become lightning mcgurk if you motivate them correctly and peak their confidence.

Current Pakistan has none of that, theirs no actual leader, Shan can't lead, Babar can't lead, rizzu can't lead. The coaches are disinterested and the management nor the captain gel well. Mickey Arthur is a medicore coach but his record looks 100× better then Kristen because he gelled with sarfi better.

Pakistan has no guidance, they play without any clear plan which unfortunately is the misbah style of cricket. Seriously what is their plan? To hang in their?

And lastly these crapola pitches and going back to pakistan had done massive damage.

Everything from captaincy, to coaching to Management have all gone down the drain ever since the focus shifted from sarfi/mickey and UAE to Misbah/ramiz/naqvi/wahab/babar/ Shan and playing within pakiatan when pakistan is in no condition to actually host a series let alone a tournament.

I don't think 2012-2016 BD team were better than this lot. This team at least have some decent fast bowlers which the past teams didn't have..only thing this team missing is a young shakib

 

[mominsaigol]

I don't think 2012-2016 BD team were better than this lot. This team at least have some decent fast bowlers which the past teams didn't have..only thing this team missing is a young shakib

Well idk about test cricket cause I didn't follow Bangladesh in test during that time,

However 2012-2016 Bangladesh were peak confident. Alot of people and their own fans felt they would usher in a new era.

In odi 2012 they managed to beat India. And yes while that was Sachin's last innings and the little master was done, Sehwag was also a walking wicket etc etc, They had kohli, dhoni and multiple others. Besting India even if it was at 30 to 40% was a huge deal for the team.

They they nearly conquered pakistan at full strength in a final.

Afterwards in 2014 they nearly beat pakistan even bashed saeed ajmal who was in chuck mode, Only rubbish bowling cost them that game.

By 2016 they had reached a stage where they confidently proclaimed that they'd whitewash pakistan and the pakistan that they faced was much much stronger then the pakistan that we have now.

Dueing the 2012 to 2016 time period they had numerous close calls with India, Sri lanka and Asian teams in general.

They regressed post 2019 off a cliff though.

 

[sweep_shot]

BD bowling is awful after these 2. Unless the pitch crumbles, no chance for BD. They can't even dream of a win here.

Anybody can dream about anything.

But, this game should be a draw. Pitch is quite flat.

1st session may give us an indication.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Nobody is salty about BD of all teams, brother.

 

[Dhakar Pola]

We are better off ignoring this @Nikhil_cric guy.

He is salty about Bangladesh. LOL.

Our team is one of the weakest in world cricket. I wonder how and why anyone would be salty against this team. This should be a ignorable team like Zim. Who cares what the BD fans say, don't read them. If you are salty because of the fans I hope you find something good in your life to keep you busy

 

[sweep_shot]

Our team is one of the weakest in world cricket. I wonder how and why anyone would be salty against this team. This should be a ignorable team like Zim. Who cares what the BD fans say, don't read them. If you are salty because of the fans I hope you find something good in your life to keep you busy

Nikhil is an Indian.

I am a Bangladeshi. Looks like you got our nationalities mixed up.

 

[Dhakar Pola]

Well idk about test cricket cause I didn't follow Bangladesh in test during that time,

However 2012-2016 Bangladesh were peak confident. Alot of people and their own fans felt they would usher in a new era.

In odi 2012 they managed to beat India. And yes while that was Sachin's last innings and the little master was done, Sehwag was also a walking wicket etc etc, They had kohli, dhoni and multiple others. Besting India even if it was at 30 to 40% was a huge deal for the team.

They they nearly conquered pakistan at full strength in a final.

Afterwards in 2014 they nearly beat pakistan even bashed saeed ajmal who was in chuck mode, Only rubbish bowling cost them that game.

By 2016 they had reached a stage where they confidently proclaimed that they'd whitewash pakistan and the pakistan that they faced was much much stronger then the pakistan that we have now.

Dueing the 2012 to 2016 time period they had numerous close calls with India, Sri lanka and Asian teams in general.

They regressed post 2019 off a cliff though.

In limited overs sure. I thought you were talking about tests. In tests we were never good to begin with. Recently because of the fast bowlers we can play in conditions that suits the fast bowlers. We won a test in NZ. The most difficult place for a sub con team to win a test in my view.

 

[Dhakar Pola]

Nikhil is an Indian.

I am a Bangladeshi. Looks like you got our nationalities mixed up.

By "you" I did not mean you in general. I meant any guy who is salty

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Does it matter? Even a draw is like a win for Bangladesh. And that's nothing against Bangladesh and the way they have played in this match. But if you look at their track-record they have generally been a rubbish test side.

Have to tip your hat though to the Pakistan Cricket Team, PCB, Selectors and curators for killing test cricket in Pakistan. Can't believe we waited 10 years to see garbage pitches and even more atrocious performances like these.

As a fan, watching this series has been painful. As if the WT20 wasn't painful enough.

RIP Test cricket in Pakistan. Don't think I'll be watching the remainder of this series. Adios.

Test cricket is dead everywhere outside of the Big 3 as I've constantly mentioned.

You have far too much faith in the likes of PAK/SL/WI etc. to turn their Test fortunes around.

It's an impossible task. Folks just don't like hearing it.

 

[Advaith]

Any penalties for slow over rate ??

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Test cricket is dead everywhere outside of the Big 3 as I've constantly mentioned.

You have far too much faith in the likes of PAK/SL/WI etc. to turn their Test fortunes around.

It's an impossible task. Folks just don't like hearing it.

Well I'm sorry if I'm not as cynical as you and actually remember watching this sport back when it was a sport.

I don't get why cynical people have to constantly bring people down to their miserable level. I would much rather be optimistic than just give up. There is still much more to test cricket than 5 match test series between Big 3.

 

[mominsaigol]

Test cricket is dead everywhere outside of the Big 3 as I've constantly mentioned.

You have far too much faith in the likes of PAK/SL/WI etc. to turn their Test fortunes around.

It's an impossible task. Folks just don't like hearing it.

I wouldn't say that's true?

SA and NZ love test cricket and play it and their clearly interested.

Afghanistan loves test as well, west indies don't love test as much as whiteball but they still play it and Bangladesh overall prefer test nowadays.

Remember quality of the teams =/= interest in test cricket.

Only teams to have completly lost all interest in test is pakistan and sri lanka. Besides sri Lankan spinners the rest don't care and pakistan doesn't care in general.

But again quality is different then interest.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I wouldn't say that's true?

SA and NZ love test cricket and play it and their clearly interested.

Afghanistan loves test as well, west indies don't love test as much as whiteball but they still play it and Bangladesh overall prefer test nowadays.

Remember quality of the teams =/= interest in test cricket.

Only teams to have completly lost all interest in test is pakistan and sri lanka. Besides sri Lankan spinners the rest don't care and pakistan doesn't care in general.

But again quality is different then interest.

South Africa have declined a lot in Test cricket. They have not won a single Test match in Asia in over a decade.

And got blanked in Australia the last time they toured.

They sent an A team to NZ so that they could have their best players for the SA20.

Plenty of NZ players have rejected central contracts too. That should show you where NZC stands with respect to Test cricket.

 

[mominsaigol]

South Africa have declined a lot in Test cricket. They have not won a single Test match in Asia in over a decade.

And got blanked in Australia the last time they toured.

They sent an A team to NZ so that they could have their best players for the SA20.

Plenty of NZ players have rejected central contracts too. That should show you where NZC stands with respect to Test cricket.

Fair

 

[SamNJ]

I too feel this sport will eventually be a big 3 sport. Decline in test cricket precedes the decline in other formats. NZ are struggling to keep their cricketers.
SA are dealing with too much political nonsense.
Pakistan don't have their heart in right place for test cricket.
Sad days ahead for fans like us, who loved this sport.

 

[Asad T]

Betting odds are:
- 80/1 Pakistan
- 2/11 Draw
- 5/1 Pakistan

So the implied probability of a draw is 84.6pct which is actually lower than what I would reasonably expect.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Yes. If they don’t, it will be a huge blow for the confidence of the team as well as fans.

We have to remember that Pakistan declared in the first innings. BD bowling is weak and they cannot take 10 Pakistan wickets.

 

[Mas-LFC]

Not enough time to lose it. In fact whose to say Pak cant win it? If they bat aggressively and get 150 lead with 40overs to bowl at Bd who are known to collapse in the 2nd innings a lot when chasing.

 

[Savak]

Players should play atleast 2-3 domestic 3-4 day games before starting a bumper test season at home with the national side. It gets them into rhythm and the swing of things.

 

[Josh]

Pakistan's fast bowling has gone gutter level down. There was not one spell from any bowler hitting consistently a fixed length. Anyone who has played cricket knows that hitting a right length and continuously hitting that right length for a spell is a key to taking wickets on any sort of wicket, no matter how much of a fatta one wicket is. Unfortunately Pakistan have T20 bowlers playing test cricket.

 

[shaz619]

Lol no, the sides from 2012-2016 were far far superior to this one, and if we're going back to the 1990's and early 2000's, then defo them.

Bangladesh has regressed, their now just a side that play cricket mostly for the sake of it.

The reality is Pakistan is just a rubbish team.

2017 team had a captain who had experience winning tournaments in foreign conditions, had a uae PSL where lots of Youngsters got exposed to foreign conditions and became better as a result, And the whole team atmosphere was to play an aggressive brand of cricket.

That's why you saw seemingly medicore cricketers like hafeez go from tuk tuk opener to a gun no 4, and why shehzad who was once pur priemrw opener faded for Fakhar.

Even azhar played quick, It shows that even tuk tuk batters can become lightning mcgurk if you motivate them correctly and peak their confidence.

Current Pakistan has none of that, theirs no actual leader, Shan can't lead, Babar can't lead, rizzu can't lead. The coaches are disinterested and the management nor the captain gel well. Mickey Arthur is a medicore coach but his record looks 100× better then Kristen because he gelled with sarfi better.

Pakistan has no guidance, they play without any clear plan which unfortunately is the misbah style of cricket. Seriously what is their plan? To hang in their?

And lastly these crapola pitches and going back to pakistan had done massive damage.

Everything from captaincy, to coaching to Management have all gone down the drain ever since the focus shifted from sarfi/mickey and UAE to Misbah/ramiz/naqvi/wahab/babar/ Shan and playing within pakiatan when pakistan is in no condition to actually host a series let alone a tournament.

Pakistan are crap but BD are playing better than them in these conditions, I think because Pakistan are so crap, it is taking away attention from BD, I also believe that this BD side has the ingredients to thrive and on paper it’s one of the best I’ve seen in terms of their balance and preparation. If anything, Pakistan is a more seasoned Test nation and to get a bloody nose from BD at home especially, shouldn’t just be a reflection primarily of how bad they are lol

 

[shaz619]

I don't think this is one of the best BD test side its just a poor Pakistani side ever

saim ayub, Abdullah Shafiq, babar azam, shan masood all failed.. bowlers also are toothless

Their spinners are high quality, they have an ATG A/R, I think they’ve found a decent replacement for Tamim and the best find is Nahid Rana. They are led well and have prepared accordingly for this series and are showing a superior IQ. Sure, they will need to put it all together and be more consistent but I also think they should be given more credit. Pakistan truly are awful, that’s not to be denied though.

 

[Buffet]

Yes. If they don’t, it will be a huge blow for the confidence of the team as well as fans.

We have to remember that Pakistan declared in the first innings. BD bowling is weak and they cannot take 10 Pakistan wickets.

+1 to bold.

BD has to take 10 wickets on this road.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Forget about this Test they have missed the WTC final chance too.

 

[Ab Fan]

This is going to be a drawn test match. You can probably give 3% chance to BD for a win, 2% for Pakistan and 95% chance is that this will be a draw.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

This is going to be a drawn test match. You can probably give 3% chance to BD for a win, 2% for Pakistan and 95% chance is that this will be a draw.

A shame for PCT

 

[RyanRyan10]

Lol no, the sides from 2012-2016 were far far superior to this one, and if we're going back to the 1990's and early 2000's, then defo them.

Bangladesh has regressed, their now just a side that play cricket mostly for the sake of it.

The reality is Pakistan is just a rubbish team.

2017 team had a captain who had experience winning tournaments in foreign conditions, had a uae PSL where lots of Youngsters got exposed to foreign conditions and became better as a result, And the whole team atmosphere was to play an aggressive brand of cricket.

That's why you saw seemingly medicore cricketers like hafeez go from tuk tuk opener to a gun no 4, and why shehzad who was once pur priemrw opener faded for Fakhar.

Even azhar played quick, It shows that even tuk tuk batters can become lightning mcgurk if you motivate them correctly and peak their confidence.

Current Pakistan has none of that, theirs no actual leader, Shan can't lead, Babar can't lead, rizzu can't lead. The coaches are disinterested and the management nor the captain gel well. Mickey Arthur is a medicore coach but his record looks 100× better then Kristen because he gelled with sarfi better.

Pakistan has no guidance, they play without any clear plan which unfortunately is the misbah style of cricket. Seriously what is their plan? To hang in their?

And lastly these crapola pitches and going back to pakistan had done massive damage.

Everything from captaincy, to coaching to Management have all gone down the drain ever since the focus shifted from sarfi/mickey and UAE to Misbah/ramiz/naqvi/wahab/babar/ Shan and playing within pakiatan when pakistan is in no condition to actually host a series let alone a tournament.

2015-2018 was the period where they showed improvement when Mashrafe Mortaza led them. 2014 was a nightmare for them.

 

[TheSultan]

The jitters are in, you’d think on this pitch it should be easy to secure a draw, but they played that last session like sitting ducks. More of this and Bangladesh are in with a very realistic chance of winning.

 

[BouncerGuy]

If saving this test match means to draw this game, then yes they can do it and should do it on that motorway pitch.

If winning the game is meant here then we are dreaming with open eyes.

 

[MenInG]

Sorry for spreading such nahoosat

But suddenly this poll makes a lot of sense.

 

[Ab Fan]

A shame for PCT

Now it really is. Underestimated BD, should have given them 10%.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Sorry for spreading such nahoosat

But suddenly this poll makes a lot of sense.

This is not nahoosat. this is a truth and PCB is getting a reality check that these guys are pathetic.

 

[BouncerGuy]

No they will not be able to save anything here. This team is pathetic and worse than Uganda.

 

[shaz619]

Their spinners are high quality, they have an ATG A/R, I think they’ve found a decent replacement for Tamim and the best find is Nahid Rana. They are led well and have prepared accordingly for this series and are showing a superior IQ. Sure, they will need to put it all together and be more consistent but I also think they should be given more credit. Pakistan truly are awful, that’s not to be denied though.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Let's be honest even a draw is a loss

 

[Hitman]

To PCB - Aur prepare karo flat tracks.

 

[MenInG]

Game gone now.

 

[Usman Chadda]

To PCB - Aur prepare karo flat tracks.

These morons are collapsing consistently to everyone on flat tracks.

We might be bowled out for team double digit scores if there is even a hint of help for even a bowling machine on any pitch.

 

[Hitman]

These morons are collapsing consistently to everyone on flat tracks.

We might be bowled out for team double digit scores if there is even a hint of help for even a bowling machine on any pitch.

Fortune favors the brave. The players themselves need to stand up against PCB for the types of tracks they have prepared since Pakistan started playing Test cricket at home. Don't blame anyone, it's all the PCB's fault.