What's new

Can Saim Ayub be considered as the next Pakistan captain?

mominsaigol

mominsaigol

Senior ODI Player
Joined
Apr 14, 2021
Runs
23,425
Post of the Week
2
Here me out. I'm not asking for him to be made captain straight away.

But after 2027 wc why not?

He captained for Markhors in a few games in the Champions one day cup and he captained brilliantly. Infact he scored a 150 in the game he captained.

Furthermore pcb is backing him as an all format player. He's come good in odi with brilliant performances against Australia and Zimbabwe( 100 of 53).

He hasn't come good in t20 though, and in tests he's been medicore atm. Infact he and Abdullah have been the worst opening duo for pakistan in test cricket.

However his odi performances lead me to believe that he's one innings away from establishing himself as a test and t20 star.

As I said early days for him, But an all format player who can become a solid all format captain post 27? I'm all for it.

Besides, he has the right attitude. Rizwan and Agha will propell our t20 team into the stone ages.
 
Captaincy can give him added pressure and may ruin his game. That's what happened to Babar.

I think he shouldn't be the captain yet.
 
He needs to deliver consistently for atleast 5 years before he takes on more responsibility. He should aim for 40+ averages in tests and ODIs.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
He needs to deliver consistently for atleast 5 years before he takes on more responsibility. He should aim for 40+ averages in tests and ODIs.
Click to expand...
That's why I said post 2027. Not now obviously.

By post 2027, i meant after the world cup.

By then he'll be 25 and will probably be mainstay in the team.

He'll have 3+ years of experience and the likes of Rizwan will be 35 and at the end of their rope. Same with Babar who not only is declining rapidly but age is also not on his side as he'll be 33 by then.

33 and 35 may seem young but given how badly rizwan has regressed in cricket as a batsmen especially in t20 cricket and odi cricket and how badly Babar has regressed in all formats its not looking good.

The only format rizwan has been good in 2024 has been in test cricket but even then he got exposed the moment aqib javed curated spin wickets and not flat track roads which pak used against Bangladesh.
 
sweep_shot said:
Sorry. Missed that.

To be honest, Saim Ayub seems like an introverted person. I am not sure if he will be good for captaincy.

Captaincy should be given to someone who has an expressive/authoritative personality (Imran Khan, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Wasim Akram, Moin Khan etc.).
Click to expand...
But who would you suggest my bro?

Right now let's look at the options.

Shan is 34, and not only is he not good as a player by 2027 he'll be 37? So pakistan will require a new test captain anyway, by 37 Shan will be cooked as he doesn't have the longetivity to play till then.

Babar's career is rapidly declining however even if he improves amd his career gets a resurgence, he ain't getting captaincy again.

Rizwan will be 35 in 2027 and ik at the very least he won't retain t20 captaincy. He might still be an odi captain but he won't be leading the t20 side.

Salman Ali Agha will definitely not be leading the t20 side either.

Then the likes of Abdullah don't have any captaincy experience period. Abdullah before he made his odi and test debut only played 15 fc and 7 List A games lol.

Shaheen will probably be cooked by then, naseem Shah is injury prone and rauf will also retire.

Sajid and Nouman won't become all format players and even of they do, Nouman will retire and sajid doesn't have any captaincy experience.

Everyone else like Kamran ghulam, Omair bin yousaf, tayyab tahir came after saim ayub and will have even less experience by then.

Similarly fakhar will be 37 and will retire as well

It'll be between saim ayub and Saud Shakeel unless some super miracle prodigy comes for pakistan and replaces these 2.

Saud will be 32 and will likely become test captain and probably will be test captain by 2025. Saim will probs get t20
 
I never thought of this because in Pakistan cricket it’s all about fighting fires opposed to thinking ahead, but it’s a good suggestion, he should be groomed for the T20 captaincy especially to begin with. In the ideal scenario Fakhar would be leading the limited over teams and Saim could be taken under his wing. You should hire leaders who understand modern cricket so it’s a good shout @mominsaigol
 
shaz619 said:
I never thought of this because in Pakistan cricket it’s all about fighting fires opposed to thinking ahead, but it’s a good suggestion, he should be groomed for the T20 captaincy especially to begin with. In the ideal scenario Fakhar would be leading the limited over teams and Saim could be taken under his wing. You should hire leaders who understand modern cricket so it’s a good shout @mominsaigol
Click to expand...
The thing is, Saim has captaincy experience. He's captained before and has captained well.

And as I mentioned in my reply to @sweep_shot the only candidates in 2027 will be Saud shakeel and Saim Ayub.

Only other option is Rizwan who I fear just like misbah will try to latch on until he's 42. And I can see that happening because both misbah and rizzu are exactly the same as whiteball players.

A) Both couldn't make it into the team (Misbah early 2000's and rizzu 2015-2018).

B) Both required favours and nepotism to enter and behind the scenes manipulation. Misbah needed waqar younis and Oathgate + Afridi's stubbornness to lead post 2011,

Rizwan needed Misbah as a favour + Babar azam and other coaches to fizzled out until he was the only candidate.

C) Both play whiteball in the exact same fashion while batting

Only difference is that aqib hasn't let rizzu select his 15 while misbah had full control and that rizzu is alot younger then misbah was when they both got shoehorned in.

So I can see Rizwan latching on till age 42
 
Well for that he must be tried intermittently as Stand in captain for the national side before 2027 and should be the leader of PZ
 
Any batsman who performs in all formats for a significant period of time will be a de facto choice for captaincy at some point, since most teams are reluctant to appoint bowling captains and most batsmen don't last long enough or are not all format players to be considered. So if Saim can establish himself as an all format opener for 3-4 years, the captaincy will eventually fall into his lap.

Fakhar missed the boat because his career coincided with Babar while Imam fell off. Shafique will find it hard to establish himself as a T20I opener. Purely in Test cricket, Saud Shakeel will probably be the next captain.
 
2027.....PCB has no plans for 2025 as evident by the humiliation of CT let the guy play consistently for 20-30 games
 
Let him play and establish his spot permanently first these early responsibilities can ruin him as a player.
 
mominsaigol said:
The thing is, Saim has captaincy experience. He's captained before and has captained well.

And as I mentioned in my reply to @sweep_shot the only candidates in 2027 will be Saud shakeel and Saim Ayub.

Only other option is Rizwan who I fear just like misbah will try to latch on until he's 42. And I can see that happening because both misbah and rizzu are exactly the same as whiteball players.

A) Both couldn't make it into the team (Misbah early 2000's and rizzu 2015-2018).

B) Both required favours and nepotism to enter and behind the scenes manipulation. Misbah needed waqar younis and Oathgate + Afridi's stubbornness to lead post 2011,

Rizwan needed Misbah as a favour + Babar azam and other coaches to fizzled out until he was the only candidate.

C) Both play whiteball in the exact same fashion while batting

Only difference is that aqib hasn't let rizzu select his 15 while misbah had full control and that rizzu is alot younger then misbah was when they both got shoehorned in.

So I can see Rizwan latching on till age 42
Click to expand...

I personally don’t think Rizwan will last that long (god it scares me to think about it), I despise Misbah but we both agree he was a solid Test batsman. Even with zero reflex’s, the sly fox had a few tricks up his sleeve. His defence was sound, he knew how to protect himself in the batting order and rarely exposed himself to the new ball for a long period. Misbah was never going to win matches with the bat, but he could handle spin well enough unlike Rizwan who has a fake reputation for being a spin basher and could play shots all around the ground, plus he could keep himself fresh & eventually relinquished other forms, very fit as well. Rizwan’s abilities are very much dependent on his form and if that’s not great, it doesn’t really help his hand eye coordination which he relies on, his defence is not as great as Misbah’s was and has this tendency to get bogged down quiet easily against good bowlers, he just has that one release shot which Misbah gave him but that wont cut it when he is in terrible knick. If Pak invest in him for the long run, am afraid his fans are in for huge disappointment, I would feel sorry for genuine Pakistan fans as well because it would be a futile exercise that will make sure Pakistan are fighting fires for a very long time.
 
shaz619 said:
I personally don’t think Rizwan will last that long (god it scares me to think about it), I despise Misbah but we both agree he was a solid Test batsman. Even with zero reflex’s, the sly fox had a few tricks up his sleeve. His defence was sound, he knew how to protect himself in the batting order and rarely exposed himself to the new ball for a long period. Misbah was never going to win matches with the bat, but he could handle spin well enough unlike Rizwan who has a fake reputation for being a spin basher and could play shots all around the ground, plus he could keep himself fresh & eventually relinquished other forms, very fit as well. Rizwan’s abilities are very much dependent on his form and if that’s not great, it doesn’t really help his hand eye coordination which he relies on, his defence is not as great as Misbah’s was and has this tendency to get bogged down quiet easily against good bowlers, he just has that one release shot which Misbah gave him but that wont cut it when he is in terrible knick. If Pak invest in him for the long run, am afraid his fans are in for huge disappointment, I would feel sorry for genuine Pakistan fans as well because it would be a futile exercise that will make sure Pakistan are fighting fires for a very long time.
Click to expand...
Misbah wasn't that good. He was clueless against pace, however had a solid defence againat spin amd due to having a good backfoot could clear the rope against spin.

It's why he avg 59 in uae because during his era pace was redundant their.

He avg 22 in sa, 28 in pak, 37 in NZ, 26 in sri lanka, 16 in aus etc etc. His high averages are only in uae and in areas where the bowling has been rubbish or the pitch is a flat track, For example his 116 avg in India looks solid but them you realise that almost every tom dick and Harry Indian batter in those 3 games averaged and scored more then he did.

Rizwan is actually alot better in test cricket then Misbah is, he averages nearly 40+ in almost every country including Australia something Misbah couldn't do since he was a bunny against. Rizzu is only poor againat eng in test cricket.

Rizwan is an awful and selfish odi and t20 bat, However in test my issue with him isn't that he's poor, my issue with him is that for a no 6 batter in test cricket, He's clueless when it comes to batting with the tail and often times pakistan collapses before they can even take a lead because this selfish clueless moron is too busy exposing the tail.

If Rizwan would just improve this aspect in test cricket then I wouldn't complain about him in test. I'd still rip him into pieces in odi and t20, but he isn't a bad test batter, Just a selfish one.
 
mominsaigol said:
Misbah wasn't that good. He was clueless against pace, however had a solid defence againat spin amd due to having a good backfoot could clear the rope against spin.

It's why he avg 59 in uae because during his era pace was redundant their.

He avg 22 in sa, 28 in pak, 37 in NZ, 26 in sri lanka, 16 in aus etc etc. His high averages are only in uae and in areas where the bowling has been rubbish or the pitch is a flat track, For example his 116 avg in India looks solid but them you realise that almost every tom dick and Harry Indian batter in those 3 games averaged and scored more then he did.

Rizwan is actually alot better in test cricket then Misbah is, he averages nearly 40+ in almost every country including Australia something Misbah couldn't do since he was a bunny against. Rizzu is only poor againat eng in test cricket.

Rizwan is an awful and selfish odi and t20 bat, However in test my issue with him isn't that he's poor, my issue with him is that for a no 6 batter in test cricket, He's clueless when it comes to batting with the tail and often times pakistan collapses before they can even take a lead because this selfish clueless moron is too busy exposing the tail.

If Rizwan would just improve this aspect in test cricket then I wouldn't complain about him in test. I'd still rip him into pieces in odi and t20, but he isn't a bad test batter, Just a selfish one.
Click to expand...

You have to remember those are Misbah’s numbers well past his prime, not that I am saying he would have been a world beater or something. Am just going back to your original point on Rizwan possibly being around forever, I just strongly feel that his overall skills when compared to Misbah’s, north of 35, will regress considerably, that’s what I meant, Misbah was an expert at hogging his spot for a long period and Rizwan doesn’t have the smarts to do it in a similar fashion due to his limited ability and I wouldn’t read too much into his numbers in this era given the selfishness you’ve highlighted.
 
shaz619 said:
You have to remember those are Misbah’s numbers well past his prime, not that I am saying he would have been a world beater or something. Am just going back to your original point on Rizwan possibly being around forever, I just strongly feel that his overall skills when compared to Misbah’s, north of 35, will regress considerably, that’s what I meant, Misbah was an expert at hogging his spot for a long period and Rizwan doesn’t have the smarts to do it in a similar fashion due to his limited ability and I wouldn’t read too much into his numbers in this era given the selfishness you’ve highlighted.
Click to expand...
Rizzu's stats may decrease however both misbah and Rizwan are experts at hogging slots.

If rizzu wasn't an expert at it, He wouldn't be hogging opening in t20 for nearly 5 years now. Similarly he's now entering year 2 of him perpetually hogging the no 4 slot in odi and no 6 in tests.
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizzu's stats may decrease however both misbah and Rizwan are experts at hogging slots.

If rizzu wasn't an expert at it, He wouldn't be hogging opening in t20 for nearly 5 years now. Similarly he's now entering year 2 of him perpetually hogging the no 4 slot in odi and no 6 in tests.
Click to expand...

The T20 & ODI hogging is just unfathomable to me because somebody ought to have asked him to step aside by now, he literally go nothing to show remotely that he is equipped to meet modern demands and has overseen some horrific defeats
 
shaz619 said:
The T20 & ODI hogging is just unfathomable to me because somebody ought to have asked him to step aside by now, he literally go nothing to show remotely that he is equipped to meet modern demands and has overseen some horrific defeats
Click to expand...
Basically if you want to know

2007 Misbah > Rizwan in all formats.

Misbah later on in his career is weaker then rizzu in tests and T20 however he's > Rizzu on spinning wickets. Rizzu was exposed badly against England where misbah avg nearly 59 in tests on uae.

Misbah is 100x better then rizzu at playing spin but during Misbah's captaincy stint Rizzu is the better SENA batter while misbah is the better Asian test batter.

In terms of Odi, both are crap however Misbah was more consistent in getting 80 ball 50's while rizzu is better at padding against crapola attacks such as scoring 132 againat sri lanka or getting 2 hundreds against aus c string in 2019.

Both are crap players though
 
mominsaigol said:
Basically if you want to know

2007 Misbah > Rizwan in all formats.

Misbah later on in his career is weaker then rizzu in tests and T20 however he's > Rizzu on spinning wickets. Rizzu was exposed badly against England where misbah avg nearly 59 in tests on uae.

Misbah is 100x better then rizzu at playing spin but during Misbah's captaincy stint Rizzu is the better SENA batter while misbah is the better Asian test batter.

In terms of Odi, both are crap however Misbah was more consistent in getting 80 ball 50's while rizzu is better at padding against crapola attacks such as scoring 132 againat sri lanka or getting 2 hundreds against aus c string in 2019.

Both are crap players though
Click to expand...

I am aware, Rizwan wont match what Misbah was capable of for a very brief period in T20’s, it is amusing he has been instrumental in reinventing Rizwan when during the inception of T20I’s he didn’t play like that, almost like he is orchestrating more ways to cripple Pakistan by having average players hold Pakistan hostage. In Tests Rizwan obviously has to play but I don’t really rate his batting too highly if am honest, apart from that one good away series against England which his phew did ok in as well. Anyway I think he doesn’t have what it takes to have a prolonged Test career and his decline thankfully has begun, Pak need to invest in back up options right away
 
shaz619 said:
I am aware, Rizwan wont match what Misbah was capable of for a very brief period in T20’s, it is amusing he has been instrumental in reinventing Rizwan when during the inception of T20I’s he didn’t play like that, almost like he is orchestrating more ways to cripple Pakistan by having average players hold Pakistan hostage. In Tests Rizwan obviously has to play but I don’t really rate his batting too highly if am honest, apart from that one good away series against England which his phew did ok in as well. Anyway I think he doesn’t have what it takes to have a prolonged Test career and his decline thankfully has begun, Pak need to invest in back up options right away
Click to expand...
Players like rizwan have techincal issues. A player who can't play on the offside will eventually dissappear
 
mominsaigol said:
But who would you suggest my bro?

Right now let's look at the options.

Shan is 34, and not only is he not good as a player by 2027 he'll be 37? So pakistan will require a new test captain anyway, by 37 Shan will be cooked as he doesn't have the longetivity to play till then.

Babar's career is rapidly declining however even if he improves amd his career gets a resurgence, he ain't getting captaincy again.

Rizwan will be 35 in 2027 and ik at the very least he won't retain t20 captaincy. He might still be an odi captain but he won't be leading the t20 side.

Salman Ali Agha will definitely not be leading the t20 side either.

Then the likes of Abdullah don't have any captaincy experience period. Abdullah before he made his odi and test debut only played 15 fc and 7 List A games lol.

Shaheen will probably be cooked by then, naseem Shah is injury prone and rauf will also retire.

Sajid and Nouman won't become all format players and even of they do, Nouman will retire and sajid doesn't have any captaincy experience.

Everyone else like Kamran ghulam, Omair bin yousaf, tayyab tahir came after saim ayub and will have even less experience by then.

Similarly fakhar will be 37 and will retire as well

It'll be between saim ayub and Saud Shakeel unless some super miracle prodigy comes for pakistan and replaces these 2.

Saud will be 32 and will likely become test captain and probably will be test captain by 2025. Saim will probs get t20
Click to expand...
Shady boy will come back and captain both t20 and odi sides
 
Captaincy of pakistan nowadays are reserved for the elites like shan and agha... The requirements are simple... You have to be a non performing member to get the captaincy... Next captain could be abdullah shafique.
 
Aviator said:
Captaincy of pakistan nowadays are reserved for the elites like shan and agha... The requirements are simple... You have to be a non performing member to get the captaincy... Next captain could be abdullah shafique.
Click to expand...
Then I want to join Pakistan team too as they actually do so.
 
An opinion from Indian fan. Sayim ayub looks assured to be the all format player PAK is looking for and has an attacking mindset as opener. What ever little I saw of him offfield, at a personal level he is supremely confident and has great calmness.

Why do not the pak selectors/media/fans push for an overhaul of pak cricket starting from 2026 t20 world cup. This is how Indian cricket went to the next level with dhoni, the then young captain back in 2007 t20. Sayim ayub should be groomed as captaincy material considering he will be young and has easily a decade + cricket left.

In addition, hire a coaching staff and captain for 2-3 years to have long term impact. I think, babar did decent in 2022 reaching t20 final, 2021 t20 semis and asia cup final in 2022 with ramiz raja at the helm. Hope, PAK gets back to the vintage team era once it was.
 
mikeypbadana86 said:
An opinion from Indian fan. Sayim ayub looks assured to be the all format player PAK is looking for and has an attacking mindset as opener. What ever little I saw of him offfield, at a personal level he is supremely confident and has great calmness.

Why do not the pak selectors/media/fans push for an overhaul of pak cricket starting from 2026 t20 world cup. This is how Indian cricket went to the next level with dhoni, the then young captain back in 2007 t20. Sayim ayub should be groomed as captaincy material considering he will be young and has easily a decade + cricket left.

In addition, hire a coaching staff and captain for 2-3 years to have long term impact. I think, babar did decent in 2022 reaching t20 final, 2021 t20 semis and asia cup final in 2022 with ramiz raja at the helm. Hope, PAK gets back to the vintage team era once it was.
Click to expand...
Saim is completely different from the others.

His best moment was when he scored a 100 against SA recently and was very nonchalant about it.

His attitude speaks volumes. I can imagine him measuring his successes by Pakistans success as opposed to frauds like Babar (fake king) and shaheen (fake eagle)
 
Rana said:
100% he can

A man who plays for country first
Click to expand...
I didn't make this thread randomly, I made it cause he captained 100x better then rizwan did for the one game that he captained against markhors.

Ironically it was the only game he scored a 150 in as captain.

All other games he failed. I guarantee you he performed because he was given full control. Management in aus probably told him that's undroppable which made him perform while before he was scared of being dropped.

Saim, Fakhar, Saeed, Ijaz etc etc, all confidence level batters. You trust them and make them feel like their on top of the world, they'll take you to the top.

The moment you tell em you are below rizwan they'll fail.
 
mominsaigol said:
I didn't make this thread randomly, I made it cause he captained 100x better then rizwan did for the one game that he captained against markhors.

Ironically it was the only game he scored a 150 in as captain.

All other games he failed. I guarantee you he performed because he was given full control. Management in aus probably told him that's undroppable which made him perform while before he was scared of being dropped.

Saim, Fakhar, Saeed, Ijaz etc etc, all confidence level batters. You trust them and make them feel like their on top of the world, they'll take you to the top.

The moment you tell em you are below rizwan they'll fail.
Click to expand...
At least we won’t get ridiculous interviews or press conferences either
 
I think M Haris should be T20 team captain for nz T20s as Saim is not avilable.
Have seen nuff of legwan.
Now we need to move forward until it is too late.
 
mominsaigol said:
Here me out. I'm not asking for him to be made captain straight away.

But after 2027 wc why not?

He captained for Markhors in a few games in the Champions one day cup and he captained brilliantly. Infact he scored a 150 in the game he captained.

Furthermore pcb is backing him as an all format player. He's come good in odi with brilliant performances against Australia and Zimbabwe( 100 of 53).

He hasn't come good in t20 though, and in tests he's been medicore atm. Infact he and Abdullah have been the worst opening duo for pakistan in test cricket.

However his odi performances lead me to believe that he's one innings away from establishing himself as a test and t20 star.

As I said early days for him, But an all format player who can become a solid all format captain post 27? I'm all for it.

Besides, he has the right attitude. Rizwan and Agha will propell our t20 team into the stone ages.
Click to expand...
Let him bat freely as an attacking opener which Pakistan is lacking since ages. You need Saim as a batsman more than as a captain.
 
And moreover he does not looks like a captaincy material, better option can be Salman in next few years who looks confident and matured enough on the field.
 
Pakistan has an unhealthy obsession with making their best batsman of any given year the captain, thereby ruining his batting career and realizing he wasn't a good captain either.

Rinse and repeat.
 
Not a terrible idea…

But what leadership qualities has he shown to be considered for captaincy in the future?
 
No.

Let him concentrate on his batting . No need to make him captain. Remember he is a solid part time bowler as well.
I would like him and Fakhar to work on there fitness , so that they can last long.
 
For Saim to become captain he needs a long rope and a stable mgmt. without the influence of veterans.

Saim c
Usman+
Saud
TT
Agha
KG
Khusdil
Jehandad
WasimJr
Naseem
Abrar
 
Naseem Shah looks like the most mature and intelligent youngster in the Pakistan side. Not seen enough of Saim. However he does have some good qualities.

One of those guys need to be VC as soon as possible.

White ball- Odi Capt- Rizwan till next World Cup, transitional Capt- Agha and VC-and eventual capt-Saim.

T20 Rizwan (till next wc), build a fresh team with Naseem as captain, Vc in T20 is a useless slot.

Test- Shan Masood but Agha has to take over Vc- Naseem Shah.

That’s my recommendation.
 
Local.Dada said:
Naseem Shah looks like the most mature and intelligent youngster in the Pakistan side. Not seen enough of Saim. However he does have some good qualities.

One of those guys need to be VC as soon as possible.

White ball- Odi Capt- Rizwan till next World Cup, transitional Capt- Agha and VC-and eventual capt-Saim.

T20 Rizwan (till next wc), build a fresh team with Naseem as captain, Vc in T20 is a useless slot.

Test- Shan Masood but Agha has to take over Vc- Naseem Shah.

That’s my recommendation.
Click to expand...
Does Naseem merit a spot in pak team??
Would u continue playing Rizwan in odis and t20s despite uncountable failures??
Rizwan should be dumped otherwise it is andhai ki aankh mai kajal malna aur langdai kai pair mai joota lagana.
 
jamie smith said:
Does Naseem merit a spot in pak team??
Would u continue playing Rizwan in odis and t20s despite uncountable failures??
Rizwan should be dumped otherwise it is andhai ki aankh mai kajal malna aur langdai kai pair mai joota lagana.
Click to expand...
You can’t dump a guy who won a series in Aus and SA on basis of 1 tournament. Maybe give him a proper team and check for 1 full cycle. What has changing captain, coach every week achieved for Pak?
 
Captaincy aside,his batting is much of a problem.
He bats like he wants to pay tribute to Gavaskar and Boycott.
Local.Dada said:
You can’t dump a guy who won a series in Aus and SA on basis of 1 tournament. Maybe give him a proper team and check for 1 full cycle. What has changing captain, coach every week achieved for Pak?
Click to expand...
 
The story of Pakistan cricket. A player has a couple good innings and all of a sudden there’s a talk of him becoming the captain which ultimately happens and ruins the players growth as a cricketer.

This was done with Babar and he went downhill both as a captain and a player.

But the Pakistani fans want to repeat this tried and tested madness and what’s crazy is that their PCB listens to them!
 
The Bald Eagle said:
It is...if you witness his rise to stardom
Click to expand...
Babar also never demolished Cummins, Hazlewood and starc in their own home den.

Babar never single handidely rescued Pakistan 2x in a row against sa in their own home den. Pakistan was at 60 for 4 on 2 occasions and saim had to chase it down?

Babar never battered and bashed a minnow like saim ayub did. Saim ayub 53 ball 100 also came in the opposition den while babar's 150 came against Nepal on a curated pitch that Babar and ramiz themsleves admitted to overseeing the curation.

These 2 frauds were so afraid of lamichane and nepali spinners that they curated an ultra flat track and even then Babar accumulated to a 100, he disnt start attacking once a 100 was reached so he could get a rapid fire 50.
 
Inject some fresh blood and don't expect any miracle anytime soon but in just a few years , things will start getting better. Don't spoil a very promising young career, Saim ayub, by making him the captain very very pre-maturely , let him develop his game , he has long way to go. Make Mohammad Haris captain of WBC, give him a year or two . I know he is erratic but plays with a positive mindset and now have some experience of leadership behind him. And, we don't have much choices anyway.

Shadab is another option if he works hard and shows some improvement and consistency in his bowling .
 
mominsaigol said:
Babar also never demolished Cummins, Hazlewood and starc in their own home den.

Babar never single handidely rescued Pakistan 2x in a row against sa in their own home den. Pakistan was at 60 for 4 on 2 occasions and saim had to chase it down?

Babar never battered and bashed a minnow like saim ayub did. Saim ayub 53 ball 100 also came in the opposition den while babar's 150 came against Nepal on a curated pitch that Babar and ramiz themsleves admitted to overseeing the curation.

These 2 frauds were so afraid of lamichane and nepali spinners that they curated an ultra flat track and even then Babar accumulated to a 100, he disnt start attacking once a 100 was reached so he could get a rapid fire 50.
Click to expand...
@mominsaigol I accept that you grasp a better cricketing knowledge then me....but I am afraid the time may prove me right.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
@mominsaigol I accept that you grasp a better cricketing knowledge then me....but I am afraid the time may prove me right.
Click to expand...
Even if saim fails and goes down a similar trajectory you would be wrong since your premise is that saim is a spiritual successor which isn't the truth by any means.

He's a spiritual successor to fakhar not bobby.
 
Rizwan is still the ideal leader if Imam’s reasoning is considered.

By the way, what the hell? Are you running a sports team or a religious movement.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

BouncerGuy
  • Poll Poll
New Fab Four of the next generation: Will Saim Ayub make the cut?
Replies
35
Views
593
mominsaigol
mominsaigol
BouncerGuy
[PICTURES] Kamindu Mendis named as ICC Men’s Emerging Cricketer of the Year (2024) [Saim Ayub misses out]
Replies
7
Views
368
Shehmir
S
A
  • Poll Poll
Abhishek Sharma versus Saim Ayub: Left-handed openers battle – Who will dominate the cricket world?
Replies
40
Views
839
jnaveen1980
J
FearlessRoar
[PICTURE] Saim Ayub Nominated for ICC Men's Emerging Cricketer of the Year 2024 Award
Replies
12
Views
541
The Bald Eagle
The Bald Eagle
mominsaigol
  • Poll Poll
Who should replace Saim Ayub for ICC Champions Trophy 2025, should he not regain fitness?
2
Replies
82
Views
2K
SpiritOf1903
SpiritOf1903
Back
Top