Can Shadab Khan replace Imad Wasim or Mohammad Nawaz in the T20I/ODI squad?

[Nado_]

I know its still early days for Shadab but from what ive seen is that as an out and out spinner Shadab is a superior bowler, on pitches which arent spin crazy i think nawaz and asghar have been exposed.

I dont think nawaz is a threatning bowler on the international scene HOWEVER one could argue that he too is only young and its early days for him and can maybe only improve from here and therefore maybe unfair to discard him.

Imad on the other hand i feel is on the verge if not already of being exposed as a bowler, he bowls straight balls which would deceive the batsman thinking it might spin, aussies eventually figured him out by playing straight against him and he was dropped for rest of series. HOWEVER with imad he always makes a good comeback in the following series and is a geniune fighter, and can maybe argue he has not done too too badly to be dropped.

In terns of batting i think shadab has as nuch potential as the two. So what are your thoughts? Is it too soon? Would it be unfair to drop either of the two? Or have seen enough to realise that imad and nawaz aint going to be world class bowlers. Your thoughts please

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Yes Shadab should be our spin allrounder.

 

[syed abbas]

As a batsman,Shadab is much better than Nawaz and Imad.And as a bowler,he is much better than Nawaz.

Imads only quality is his bowling.But we donot need Imad the bowler.We need a genuine all-rounder and Shabad is that genuine one.So,I would prefer Shadab.

 

[Nado_]

Yes Shadab should be our spin allrounder.

Yeah bro, were on the same page, shadab spins it properly both ways and looks confident.

 

[syed abbas]

Imads bowling is going to be exposed soon.His bowling works against those teams who have not faced him and that too for limited number of games.

 

[Rayyman]

Yes. He can replace Mohammad Nawaz. Though I want Usama Mir over Shadab Khan. Because he is older.

 

[Hawkeye]

He's automatically become the best we have among spinners or so called spin allrounders.

Neither of Imad, Nawaz or Shadab are great at hitting or at number 6/7.

We do know Nawaaz is the worst.

 

[Nado_]

As a batsman,Shadab is much better than Nawaz and Imad.And as a bowler,he is much better than Nawaz.

Imads only quality is his bowling.But we donot need Imad the bowler.We need a genuine all-rounder and Shabad is that genuine one.So,I would prefer Shadab.

Yeah the sooner we get shadab in the better, but selectors and logic rarely go together and worried some people will throw the unfair card on imad and nawaz

 

[fasihulhaq94]

all those hyping shadab will soon come back to earth when he competes at international level. He is good, that is all.

 

[Rayyman]

He's automatically become the best we have among spinners or so called spin allrounders.

Neither of Imad, Nawaz or Shadab are great at hitting or at number 6/7.

We do know Nawaaz is the worst.

Imad has looked a good hitter recently. I think he has improved.

 

[Nado_]

all those hyping shadab will soon come back to earth when he competes at international level. He is good, that is all.

Why do you feel that way, we were lacking a spinner who gets real turn, throw in the deceptive googly which also turns, youve got a lot of potential there, throw the batting in the mix youve got even more potential, so please explain yourself?

 

[Adil_94]

Shadab should replace Nawaz. Nawaz looks like a mediocre all rounder. Last years spin tracks in PSL made him look better than he is. His batting is just leg side hacks.

 

[Madplayer]

Why would anyone want to kick imad out? He is vital to LOI team these days.

 

[Rayyman]

Why would anyone want to kick imad out? He is vital to LOI team these days.

#4 bowler in T20Is. These people are just hyped by Shadab.

 

[Canistani Hero]

Imad and Shadab can play in the same XI. Nawaz back to domestic

 

[hur rizvi]

Imad hasnt done anything to get dropped and Nawaz hasnt done anything to get retained.

Nawaz should be dropped for Shadab

 

[Hawkeye]

Imad has looked a good hitter recently. I think he has improved.

I'm not convinced he can clear the fence at will, especially against pace and at intl level. Haven't done much in this league too.

Why would anyone want to kick imad out? He is vital to LOI team these days.

I agree Imad can't be kicked out yet, but that's because of our lack of alternatives.

He's handy with the ball but not good enough for a late order accelerator. Still a better bat amongst alternatives like Nawaz.

Imad and Shadab can partner, but we still lack some hitters down the order and will struggle to chase or put up modern day scores.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

From what I have seen, he is a really capable bat so i dont know why cant he become our main allrounder.
If u need 2 spinners then play another spinner like Zafar or Usama..

I miss Raza Hasan Think he would have been great in lois.

 

[arehaan]

I would play yamin and shadab as 2 allrounders

 

[Rayyman]

I'm not convinced he can clear the fence at will, especially against pace and at intl level. Haven't done much in this league too.



I agree Imad can't be kicked out yet, but that's because of our lack of alternatives.

He's handy with the ball but not good enough for a late order accelerator. Still a better bat amongst alternatives like Nawaz.

Imad and Shadab can partner, but we still lack some hitters down the order and will struggle to chase or put up modern day scores.

He's hit boundaries at the end here in PSL. Strike rate of 130 even though he played a 7*(8) to win the game. He hit Hazlewood and Starc over long straight boundaries in Aus. Keep in mind those won't slower deliveries.

 

[asma_cricfan]

why shadab replace a performing player? he should replace umar akmal. pak will have another allrounder in the team who can certainly bat better than umar.

 

[Brilliance]

When is Raza Hassan's ban ending ? Is he going to make a comeback in domestics? Didn't hear anything about him for so long.

 

[Nado_]

I agree with some replies on here that dropping imad in one sense is not justifiable, however my cause of concern is that he is starting to get found out in ODI's and i hope im wrong but looks like a one trick pony the other side to this is that he has not performed totally badly and he always comes back stronger hence the dilemma.

 

[Justcrazy]

Shadab and Imad both can play together.

Imad needs to work more on his batting. He needs to play as batting all rounder , while shadab can be bowling all rounder.

 

[Justcrazy]

When is Raza Hassan's ban ending ? Is he going to make a comeback in domestics? Didn't hear anything about him for so long.

He is better than Imad , and no mug with the bat as well.

 

[Rayyman]

I agree with some replies on here that dropping imad in one sense is not justifiable, however my cause of concern is that he is starting to get found out in ODI's and i hope im wrong but looks like a one trick pony the other side to this is that he has not performed totally badly and he always comes back stronger hence the dilemma.

So if he comes back stronger that means he is improving on his weaknesses and it looks like he has been working hard.

 

[Nado_]

So if he comes back stronger that means he is improving on his weaknesses and it looks like he has been working hard.

Eventually one will out weigh the other, he either is going to be totally found out and become a non threat spinner like malik OR will he be a constant threatning performer throughout a series.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I actually reckon Shadab has more potential with bat then ball

 

[aloo paratha]

He can replace Nawaz, Imad is here to stay.

 

[Syed1]

Shadab can bat better than Imad that is for sure. Imad can only strike spinners, against pacers he relies on dinks and ramps.

Shadab at 7 and Imad at 8 will be good for our ODI side.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

No way,not Imad(though Imad's the better spinner)

But Shadab isn't the complete package just yet.Should play a couple of A-tours.He is one for the future though,thats for sure.

 

[Rayyman]

Shadab can bat better than Imad that is for sure. Imad can only strike spinners, against pacers he relies on dinks and ramps.

Shadab at 7 and Imad at 8 will be good for our ODI side.

Another one on the Shadab bandwagon. Imad is probably the cleanest striker in Pakistan; But everybody gets hyped by Shadab's flat bats through long on in Sharjah's small ground.

 

[Syed1]

Another one on the Shadab bandwagon. Imad is probably the cleanest striker in Pakistan; But everybody gets hyped by Shadab's flat bats through long on in Sharjah's small ground.

Were you blind folded during the match that just ended?

 

[Rayyman]

Were you blind folded during the match that just ended?

No, I saw Imad giving Pollard the strike.

 

[aloo paratha]

Another one on the Shadab bandwagon. Imad is probably the cleanest striker in Pakistan; But everybody gets hyped by Shadab's flat bats through long on in Sharjah's small ground.

Shadab is a better batsmen.

 

[Rayyman]

Shadab is a better batsmen.

Imad has a 1st-class 200. Shadab has played four 1st-class games. End of discussion. Case closed.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Imad's performance pattern in last few series .. 1st 2 matches good: next matches found out.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

Every domestic beauty is better than the players in the current team. People going overboard here.

Imad is a proven performer. Shadab has just started to make a name in domestic

 

[Rayyman]

Every domestic beauty is better than the players in the current team. People going overboard here.

Imad is a proven performer. Shadab has just started to make a name in domestic

People are acting like Shadab is one of the best in Pakistan and has proven himself on the international stage. All he has done is made a name for himself among the other youngsters.

 

[Syed1]

No, I saw Imad giving Pollard the strike.

You come across as a guy who doesn't have alot of cricketing knowledge.

Imad was clearly trying to strike the ball but was hardly clearing the inner circle.

 

[coy0607]

Nawaz has been a total flop- with bat and ball

I don't think Imads position is in question- other than an average Aus tour he's been pretty solid

Shadab has earned a call up for WI, along with Fakhar Zaman and maybe even Husain Talat if he can have another couple of good games

 

[Lupe]

Shadab Khan can replace Mohammed Nawaz, who needs to improve his bowling and batting substantially if he wants to come back to the National side. Imad Wasim needs to improve with his bowling as players will get used to his 'darts' after-awhile. But, I see him remaining in the team for his attitude and batting skills which seem like it has improved. So I think he will bat at no.7 in ODI with Shadab at 6?

In the PSL, I like the look of Husain Talat, Shadab Khan, Aamer Yamin & Rumman Raees from the youngsters. Hassan Khan & Usama Mir looks like a good bowlers, but they need improve their batting dramatically if they wish to be considered IMHO. Fakhar Zaman looks like a decent player, who could improve ala Sharjeel but would be considered as a downgrade as he needs to learn how to play on the back-foot.

 

[Square Drive]

Nawaz is probably the worst of the three, though he, too, is pretty good.

Shadab and Imad for T20s as well as ODIs.

Nawaz shouldn't be in the T20I squad, but he should be on the bench for both ODIs and Tests still.

 

[Speedster777]

Nawaz is a poor bowler and poor batsman. Shadab can easily replace him.

 

[Markhor]

Shadab will mostly likely be on the plane to the Caribbean and deservedly so. He has the most potential out of all three.

Nawaz is a limited batsman who's awful against spin. His bowling is toothless and only potent when on raging, square turners like in PSL 1.

Imad's been decent since debuting. Can bowl a tight quota of overs and has been handy with the bat. But his action will not allow him to impart much turn. He's a wicket to wicket bowler, batsmen will learn not to play across the line against him as he'll mainly collect bowleds and LBWs.

He should have competition from another young AR like Aamer Yamin or Kamran Ghulam.

 

[Rayyman]

You come across as a guy who doesn't have alot of cricketing knowledge.

Imad was clearly trying to strike the ball but was hardly clearing the inner circle.

Neither was Pollard until the last two balls. Is Shadab better than him too?

 

[Syed1]

He should have competition from another young AR like Aamer Yamin or Kamran Ghulam.

Kamran Ghulam was all the rage around the PP circles before PSL but hardly a peep about him now. Just goes to show a PSL contract can make or break your career. Kamraan would have wait till next years PSL and perform splendidly to get onto the selectors radar, which is unfortunate since if a boy is performing in domestics he should be on the radar whether he is in PSL or not. Same with someone like Saad Ali who is averaging in the 60s since debuting in List A cricket.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Should replace Nawaz who is awful

 

[Syed1]

Neither was Pollard until the last two balls. Is Shadab better than him too?

Oh Khuda ko maan yaar.. Pollard has 4 sixes and 1 four. Did all of that come in the last two balls?

 

[Syed1]

Imad Wasim had 2 fours and a 1 six, that makes it 14 runs of 3 balls, which means he scored 5 runs of the other 11 deliveries he faced. If he was trying to tick over the strike he wasn't doing a very good job.

I'm not discrediting his performance but Imad struggles to clear the ropes against pacers and only feasts on spinners which was evident today as well.

 

[Rayyman]

Mark my words. Shadab Khan will be exposed in international cricket.

 

[mz123]

Imad Wasim had 2 fours and a 1 six, that makes it 14 runs of 3 balls, which means he scored 5 runs of the other 11 deliveries he faced. If he was trying to tick over the strike he wasn't doing a very good job.

I'm not discrediting his performance but Imad struggles to clear the ropes against pacers and only feasts on spinners which was evident today as well.

Should just be dropped: can't bat, can't spin, and can't celebrate. patha nahi kider se milgaya tha

 

[yasir]

I would put him test too right away, he is better than most spinners, he actually spins the ball and best googlie in the country, prefect as second spinner in test.

His batting is better than everybody else, he looks like a proper batsman, those inside out drives are no joke.

I hate this new Misbahism culture in Pakistani cricket that youngsters are never tried in test. Pakistan should have Hasan Ali in test last WI series. This time both Hasan and Shahab should be test team. No need to wait for two more years, this is killing cricket in Pakistan

 

[Rayyman]

Imad Wasim had 2 fours and a 1 six, that makes it 14 runs of 3 balls, which means he scored 5 runs of the other 11 deliveries he faced. If he was trying to tick over the strike he wasn't doing a very good job.

I'm not discrediting his performance but Imad struggles to clear the ropes against pacers and only feasts on spinners which was evident today as well.

Imad is a good hitter against pace now. He hit Starc and Hazlewood down the ground for six not a slower ball. Also hit a six on first ball in last match vs Perera.

 

[Nado_]

I think at this point of time, nawaz has to be dropped while imad and shadab should both be in the squad, potential wise i think shadab can overpass imad quite easily let me repeat POTENTIAL wise, im not saying shadab is warnes dad do you get me

 

[Ellipsism]

Imad is a good hitter against pace now. He hit Starc and Hazlewood down the ground for six not a slower ball. Also hit a six on first ball in last match vs Perera.

Those two ball were in his zone.

Shadab is much better than that one trick pony Imad.

 

[Ellipsism]

Mark my words. Shadab Khan will be exposed in international cricket.

How?

The likes of Amir and Imad have already been exposed, I'm sure testing out a youngster whom has shown great potential is not going to cause much harm, considering the state Pak cricket is in.

 

[Hawkeye]

Mark my words. Shadab Khan will be exposed in international cricket.

We understand you're a huge Imad fan and will not accept his shortcomings.

But during this don't be mad at others who are quality and potentially better.

Anyway I've yet to see Shadab s batting.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Imad might be good/v.good whichever way you see
but Shadab has world class potential as a package
please don't ruin him

 

[Rayyman]

We understand you're a huge Imad fan and will not accept his shortcomings.

But during this don't be mad at others who are quality and potentially better.

Anyway I've yet to see Shadab s batting.

I do acknowledge that Imad does too much tuk tuk with the bat and is a darter with the ball. That much is obvious; But calling Shadab better than him is a disgrace.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

shadab is an allround package as he can bat, bowl and field... With all three facets of the game he will make an impact in every game, if no runs, can take wickets and field well, if no wickets still can bat well and field well... this is why R.Jadeja is still playing in ODIs for India, though he is poor in batting...In modern day cricket you need players like him and he will be one of the leading ODI players soon under MA...

 

[Ellipsism]

I do acknowledge that Imad does too much tuk tuk with the bat and is a darter with the ball. That much is obvious; But calling Shadab better than him is a disgrace.

In the bowling aspect of things Shadab is light years ahead of Imad, with the latter only have one ball.

Shadab has impressed each time he comes out to bat as well, scored a 40 odd in the PSL and also scored a century against Zimbabwe last year.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

In the bowling aspect of things Shadab is light years ahead of Imad, with the latter only have one ball.

Shadab has impressed each time he comes out to bat as well, scored a 40 odd in the PSL and also scored a century against Zimbabwe last year.

yes shadab looks like a perfect no.6 that they have been looking for..

This PSL have shown there are players in the domestic bag who on the same stage with seniors are outperforming them .... the only senior who had a good run in this PSL is only Malik..

hafeez is terrible
Kamran equally terrible but he was better than hafeez as he was pushed down to no.3 after opening so well in the first game....

Soon they should get rid of these 90s players and play the players who deserve more than them... Hopefully from next PSL, going by this logic I salute MYK for withdrawing himself from the league as a player after going unsold...

Ashwin, Jadeja, mishra, manish pandey are all IPL products, Now adding kuldeep and kedar jadav too... nehra re-invent himself with IPL;;;

Then why not the performing players from PSL... in that case all of shadab, usama mir, asghar, hassan khan, yamin, amad butt and fakhar zaman should be in the ODI/T20I squad....

 

[aloo paratha]

Imad has a 1st-class 200. Shadab has played four 1st-class games. End of discussion. Case closed.

Talking LO.

 

[Hasan123]

I think he can replace Nawaz definitely

 

[Brilliance]

Shadab can easily play at no. 5 for Pakistan. Though he will have to play at 6 . He is a genuine all-rounder Pakistan has been looking for. He should replace Nawaz in the team.

As for People saying that Shadab comparison with Imad is a disgrace, please don't get fooled in your fan boyism . Shadab has shown enough to suggest that he will be a better batsman than Imad and his bowling is already miles better than Imad.

 

[Rayyman]

Shadab can easily play at no. 5 for Pakistan. Though he will have to play at 6 . He is a genuine all-rounder Pakistan has been looking for. He should replace Nawaz in the team.

As for People saying that Shadab comparison with Imad is a disgrace, please don't get fooled in your fan boyism . Shadab has shown enough to suggest that he will be a better batsman than Imad and his bowling is already miles better than Imad.

Thank god you aren't a selector. An innings of 40 and 20 and you are all hyped.

 

[Brilliance]

Thank god you aren't a selector. An innings of 40 and 20 and you are all hyped.

I am not a selector. But do not get disappointed when his name comes out for the tour of WI.

 

[Madplayer]

Another one on the Shadab bandwagon. Imad is probably the cleanest striker in Pakistan; But everybody gets hyped by Shadab's flat bats through long on in Sharjah's small ground.

Were you blind folded during the match that just ended?

Dont have to bring down one player to praise another.

I think both of them are needed in LOIs. Shadab has great variations with the ball so he will be an upgrade over yasir in limited over cricket

 

[Hawkeye]

Nawaz is probably the worst of the three, though he, too, is pretty good.

Shadab and Imad for T20s as well as ODIs.

Nawaz shouldn't be in the T20I squad, but he should be on the bench for both ODIs and Tests still.

Those are pretty low standards. The only bench Nawaz needs to be on is his domestic side's bench.

 

[shariqnoor]

We shouldn't bring Shadab in our team right now. Last year Nawaz performed in the PSL and we drafted him in the team straightaway. Look how he turned out. Complete mediocre. We should pick players who have consistently performed in the domestic for a few years. Shadab is a good prospect but right now that's about it. Let him perform at least at another edition of PSL before considering him.

We have been too lenient in giving out caps. Need to be frugal and let players earn them.

 

[Square Drive]

Those are pretty low standards. The only bench Nawaz needs to be on is his domestic side's bench.

No.

Only an idiot would treat a 22-year-old youngster like that.

He's played 9 ODIs and 3 Tests.

Can be a good backup for Imad in ODIs and a good backup all-rounder option for Tests, with Shadab being the main AR in a 5-man attack.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Nawaz is mediocre. People here are underrating Imad in LOIs though. One of our most valuable players in ODIs and T20s. Shadab should replace Nawaz.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Thank god you aren't a selector. An innings of 40 and 20 and you are all hyped.

I think its the way he did it, showed stroke play that many others don't have including Imad, that doesnt mean both dont have future though. They can easily play together, though i will reaffirm what i said earlier - i reckon in the mid to long term Shadab's batting will be of more use than his bowling

 

[Syed1]

Thank god you aren't a selector. An innings of 40 and 20 and you are all hyped.

Why are you being so salty. Shadab being good doesn't mean your hero Imad is automatically bad.

 

[proud_pakistani]

I would say that both Imad and Shadab should be playing in UAE and subcontinent pitches. Imad is a real fighter and is a thinking cricketer. He is not too skillful as a bowler but his variations make him tough to deal with. Shadab is very skillful as a bowler and seems very composed as a batsman. Shud be drafted in straight away. Another guy who needs to at least be in the squad is Hassan Khan.

 

[Red Devil]

Imad deserves to be in the team but he really needs to improve his power hitting if he is going to bat in the lower order.

 

[AFM]

This is what Dean Jones had to say.

He urged the cricketing community in Pakistan not to get too excited this early about all-rounder Shadab Khan as, despite being very talented, he was very young at this level.

“He’s just a boy. Let’s not think too much of him at the moment. He’s a magnificent fieldsman. We’ve had to straighten up his run-up and adjust his technique a little bit.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1316568

 

[Brilliance]

We shouldn't bring Shadab in our team right now. Last year Nawaz performed in the PSL and we drafted him in the team straightaway. Look how he turned out. Complete mediocre. We should pick players who have consistently performed in the domestic for a few years. Shadab is a good prospect but right now that's about it. Let him perform at least at another edition of PSL before considering him.

We have been too lenient in giving out caps. Need to be frugal and let players earn them.

Shadab has proved himself on the A tour and in the domestics. While as Nawaz was just picked based on PSL.

 

[b.lesner]

[MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] First time agree with you . Imad should keep his place while Shadab should replace nawaz , cant have two similar bowlers in same line up.