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Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have qualified for the super 12, and they are not placed in group A which includes, England, Australia, West Indies and South Africa

UAE is a spin friendly country, and Sri Lanka has got mystery spinners with them. They have got Hasaranga and Theekshana who are bowling really well.

Bangladesh on the other hand have got Mehdy Hasan and Shakib ul Hasan who have been bowling well aswell.

Group B has become tad easier as while the top 4 teams have spinners, but two weaker teams would now be joining them by the name of Scotland and or maybe Namibia or Ireland.

Knowing that Aus, Eng,and Sa are weak against spin, can Sri Lanka or Bangladesh be the dark horses that could reach the semis?
 
I don't think so. The other three teams are superior and can handle spin it is not a 50 over match
 
Looking at the Group

You'd expect England to get through, then it's a battle between Australia and West Indies for the other spot.
 
Saj said:
Looking at the Group

You'd expect England to get through, then it's a battle between Australia and West Indies for the other spot.
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Can’t see England getting into the SF without Stokes and Archer. South Africa and West Indies are favourites imo
 
I expect Sri Lanka to do well due to venue being UAE. Their spinners should come in handy.

Bangladesh should lose all games on paper but you never know. They may get a win or two.

Bangladesh should target West Indies and South Africa. They may struggle on slow tracks.
 
sweep_shot said:
I expect Sri Lanka to do well due to venue being UAE. Their spinners should come in handy.

Bangladesh should lose all games on paper but you never know. They may get a win or two.

Bangladesh should target West Indies and South Africa. They may struggle on slow tracks.
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Depends, on a slow turning wicket I’d favour BD over AUS and SA especially, they have upset WI/ENG in the past to, out of the two England are a bit weaker.
 
Can't predict anything. Any 2 of the 6 teams can qualify and I won't be surprised if they are even Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

But i have a gut feeling that South Africa are going to do something special this World Cup. I'd go with Australia and South Africa to be the 2 semi finalists from this group.
 
Mesozoic said:
Can't predict anything. Any 2 of the 6 teams can qualify and I won't be surprised if they are even Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

But i have a gut feeling that South Africa are going to do something special this World Cup. I'd go with Australia and South Africa to be the 2 semi finalists from this group.
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No England?

I feel England can go to final.
 
shaz619 said:
Depends, on a slow turning wicket I’d favour BD over AUS and SA especially, they have upset WI/ENG in the past to, out of the two England are a bit weaker.
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England and Australia should crush Bangladesh.

Other teams are beatable.
 
Mesozoic said:
Their bowling is hot garbage. Unless Rashid has a blitzkrieg of a tournament, they aren't going through.
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Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid are pretty okay for T20 format. I think they should be fine.

Their biggest strength is their batting.
 
Most definitely they can

Bangladesh are looking good as a bowling unit. Batting is a bit weak

SL has some good bowlers as well
 
SL has 2 high pace bowlers in Kumara and Chameera and of course Hasaranga as well. Bangladesh has an attack of Taskin(140+) , Saifuddin (genuine swinger), Fizz and spinners.

This is going to be a highly competitive World T20. No real minnows in either group.
 
Unlikely.

Sri Lanka have a few good players and a bowling attack that can be competent on the day. But they are still a poor team. Bangladesh too are a rotten team. But if their spinners cause some trouble, their batting is half-decent and their fast-bowling doesn't embarrass them, then they might be able to spring a surprise.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Unlikely.

Sri Lanka have a few good players and a bowling attack that can be competent on the day. But they are still a poor team. Bangladesh too are a rotten team. But if their spinners cause some trouble, their batting is half-decent and their fast-bowling doesn't embarrass them, then they might be able to spring a surprise.
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Sri Lanka is relying on its top 3 in batting, but what i have seen from their spinners is just magnificent.

Hasaranga and Theekshana are very very good. Especialy theekshana who is probably the second best right arm off spiner in this tournament
 
To be honest, Group 1 is not even group of death....

People have exaggerated group 1. There arn't any spinners in group1 to be threatening here. I think the group of death is group 2.

However, it should be easier for Bangaldesh and Sri Lanka to get to the semis
 
Australia will not be choking to bangladesh in world cup. England team is also very strong nowadays, regardless of pitch.
 
BD have no chance in Group 1. If they were in Group 2, I would fancy their chances more. They would've started as favorites against Afg and Namibia/Ireland. From their an upset win against Pak/NZ could've been enough.
 
SA won all two matches convincingly so far including against Pakistan. They are in form. BD , SL should win against WI. SL should do better than BD. BD batsmen are the weaker link here. I don't have high hopes about our team.
 
Mainul said:
SA won all two matches convincingly so far including against Pakistan. They are in form. BD , SL should win against WI. SL should do better than BD. BD batsmen are the weaker link here. I don't have high hopes about our team.
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I expect South Africa to struggle in UAE.

Both BD and Sri Lanka can beat South Africa on slow tracks.
 
I believe Australia and England have played more than those teams in the UAE so they've got more experience with the conditions.
 
sweep_shot said:
I expect South Africa to struggle in UAE.

Both BD and Sri Lanka can beat South Africa on slow tracks.
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The pitches so far are good. Ball coming into the bat nicely. 170-180 runs per pitches score. I don't think spinners would come into play heavily.
 
Sri Lanka and Bangladesh will at best play spoilsport for one of the bigger teams like England or West Indies who are expected to qualify. Aus or Kiwis could benefit from an upset, say Bangladesh beat England or something.

Neither side has the depth or squad to go to semis.
 
Don't see them going to SF but these two teams will decide who will play the semis. 1 or 2 upsets by each side is more or less a guarantee, maybe one of them finishes 3rd in the group narrowly missing a SF spot due to NRR? I think Aussies are going to suffer this time, pathetic T2O team with an ancient approach to the format.

Somehow get a feeling that this is SA's time to shine. Underrated side with all bases covered, and absolutely no pressure or expectation on them. Can see them going all the way, will be funny if quota pick Bavuma is the guy who lifts the trophy in the end.
 
I don't see Bangladesh winning any matches. They are just too poor in T20. Srilanka is being underestimated here, they bring their A game in world tournaments. Take them lightly and cry later

West Indies and Srilanka will go through.

Semis:
West Indies vs Pakistan = Pakistan
Srilanka vs India = India

Final Winner : :kohli 🤝

:butt
 
Group 1 in an interesting group - everybody there has a feet of clay. Australia, WI, SA lack good spin options. England & Bangladesh have a decent spin, but their other bowlers are garbage. SL can be a dark horse bowling wise, but their batting is hit or miss.

My prediction - England & Australia. England has good batting plus Rashid & Maxwell is in the form of his life. Though WI will be meandering close.
 
SL and Ban are the two teams WI has a bigger chance losing to, especially SL. WI doesn't usually do well against spin heavy attacks. Unless WI bring their A game from the get go, these two teams might hurt their chances of qualifying for semis. Eng is almost certain to qualify though.
 
Thing is we don't know how the pitches are going to be. Based upon IPL, the speculation obviously is that pitches will be low and slow. If that's the case, then I would assume that Bdesh has a very good chance to win their matches in Sharjah, which would be against one minnow and West Indies. I would give them a decent chance to win against SA in Abu Dhabi, while i give them extremely low chance to win against England in Abu dhabi and almost zero chance against Australia in Dubai (large ground). I would say Bdesh can win 3 of 5 matches if pitches support them, and with some luck and solid batting performance by Mahmudulah and Shakib, may be against Eng as well. The fay their fans have supported them over the last 25 years, these bunch of jokers who play for Bdesh, need to finally do themselves some honor and get to semis. However, all this may not mean anything if the pitch in Sharjah turns out to be a good batting wicket, where WI could murder their slow bowlers on that short ground.
 
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Major said:
Sri Lanka is relying on its top 3 in batting, but what i have seen from their spinners is just magnificent.

Hasaranga and Theekshana are very very good. Especialy theekshana who is probably the second best right arm off spiner in this tournament
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Hasaranga is frankly the only world-class player they have. Top 3 is simply not good enough. Chandimal's numbers show has never been a T20 player, Perera is too hit or miss, Nissanka is very new + inexperienced and only has one innings of note which came in the last match.

Theekshana may be hard for teams to play initially because he is a mystery spinner. But sooner or later he will be figured out like every other mystery spinner in the modern age.
 
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The one advantage of undergoing the qualifying rounds is that both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh enter the tournament after playing some good intense cricket. It will hold them in good stead, rather than start the tournament luke warm after a friendly or two.
 
sweep_shot said:
Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid are pretty okay for T20 format. I think they should be fine.

Their biggest strength is their batting.
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Moeen Ali too is an average T20 bowler. They're totally dependent on Adil Rashid to get them the breakthroughs in the middle overs. Archer and Stokes are huuuuge misses. If they were there, England would have surely become the frontliners along with India to lift the cup.
 
Aus way too overrated.

They look very mediocre and I wouldn't be surprised if they lose to BD or SL.

Eng and SA definitely the two best teams in this group.
 
England has no chance. Have to play both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka in Sharjah. Would love to see them attacking Hasaranga or Miraz.
 
How is this the group of death?

Far more chances of progressing from this group then Group B
 
Sri Lanka surprisingly looking very dangerous side.. their bowling attack is tailor made for this kind of pitches...with decent score on the board they can spring few surprises in Group of death
 
West Indies and South Africa have made a right hash of things to start with so suddenly lots off opportunities for Bangladesh and Sri Lanka to to make a mark

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Tomorrow's game (BD vs Sri Lanka) may determine who finish last in Group A.

Sri Lanka start off as favorites.
 
South Africa are still in with a shout of progressing, but will need to beat England or rely on the West Indies to achieve an upset win over Australia.
 
Saj said:
Looking at the Group

You'd expect England to get through, then it's a battle between Australia and West Indies for the other spot.
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No ,both teams make basic mistakes like simple chances being dropped. Bangladesh lost to Sri lank due to two simple catches going down as well as to West indies dropping Holder which proved costly. Sri Lanka dropped Warner ,a simple chance and paid the price.
 
They have been very poor. Bangladesh were the poorest.

Group A has been really bad in terms of quality.
 
Sri Lanka and Bangladesh's performances in this tournament have been a case study in what not to do while playing a T20 in UAE.

Both had decent enough batting line-ups, good spinners and fast-bowling attacks that were atleast better than Afghanistan. And yet Afghanistan has looked like a far more dangerous and credible side than either of them.

A great part of that is down to performances, but a significant part is also down to bad strategies and tactics from SL and BD.
 
England and Australia looking good:

England have South Africa to play
Australia have Bangladesh and West Indies to play
South Africa have Bangladesh and England to play
 
I just can't hide my pain at Sri Lanka's last two defeats because they're one team, alongside South Africa, that I'm supporting a lot in the ongoing tournament and wish well for. It's sad, really sad, because a little more application of brains and they would've by now stood so close to a berth in the semi-final. They're a passionate and skilled team, with hunger for success, but the inexperience shows each time that they're required to play according to the situation of the match.

Hasaranga.... Why, why did you have to play that shot when only 34 runs were required off 19 balls? Sri Lanka were cruising to a win at that time. I hope that he learns from it because he's one brilliant, absolutely brilliant, all-round cricketer. I've come to admire him.
 
Saj said:
England and Australia looking good:

England have South Africa to play
Australia have Bangladesh and West Indies to play
South Africa have Bangladesh and England to play
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I`m hoping for some South African magic now. I really hope that they go through to the semi-finals. Nortje is the man!
 
Sri Lanka have been naive but have shown huge potential. The bowling attack is excellent and will improve. Asalanka and Nissanka are going to be the next great Sri Lankan batsmen. I think they will be strong contenders for WT20 2022. Bangaldesh are very poor I'm afraid.
 
DHONI183 said:
I`m hoping for some South African magic now. I really hope that they go through to the semi-finals. Nortje is the man!
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I can't see them beating England.

Also Australia should win their last 2 group matches.
 
Saj said:
I can't see them beating England.

Also Australia should win their last 2 group matches.
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West Indies seem to have kicked in gear now, I think they can beat Australia
 
Bangladesh are an embarrassment to humanity, frankly.

Sri Lanka put up a good show today.
 
I fancy South Africa to reach semis v Pakistan. They will be very dangerous indeed. Rabada, Nortje, Pretorius, Shamsi and Miraj is a very good, varied attack and they have several dangerous power hitters.
 
bangladesh should just give up and play a different sport.
cricket just isnt their thing.
 
The Googly said:
I fancy South Africa to reach semis v Pakistan. They will be very dangerous indeed. Rabada, Nortje, Pretorius, Shamsi and Miraj is a very good, varied attack and they have several dangerous power hitters.
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I don't think so.

England should beat South Africa and that should knock them out.

It is either Australia or West Indies (small chance).
 
Bangladesh have been a huge disappointment.

I know Shakib got injured, but in these conditions they should have done much better than they have.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sri Lanka and Bangladesh are out of the T20 World Cup. It looks like Pakistan and Afghanistan are the only Asian teams with a chance to make it through to the semi-finals <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCup</a> <a href="https://t.co/Fh1iK9t3ho">pic.twitter.com/Fh1iK9t3ho</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1455526803603398660?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2021</a></blockquote>
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It's all about mentality.. Bangladesh players have very weak mentality, most of them came from very humble easily satisfied backgrounds. Now they've made it to national team, after early fame it all goes awol then. Because simply the fact their upbringing was such. Most of them highly uneducated. Earning enough to eat and provide for fam is enough. Some of them did well early got early fame, endorsements so much came their way, then they felt 'I've made it'. Sabbir Rahman and Nasir Hossain, examples. Currently in the side, Soumya Sarkar and Liton Das. Two other examples. Mustafiz is definitely disturbed by IPL money. He was so messy in this WC, I've never seen him bowl so many wides and being so wayward. BCB must ban him from IPL next year. World Cup 2023 is not far. BD need Fizz at his best.
 
Saj said:
I can't see them beating England.

Also Australia should win their last 2 group matches.
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That statement is actually correct, but this is T20 cricket after all and funny things have happened in this format. Sri Lanka beating England looked even farther away than what we're talking about, and although it happen in the end, but we would all admit that it was looking like a serious possibility until Hasaranga played that needless shot. I don't think that England are really that unbeatable.

South Africa have even improved their net run-rate, and beating England should actually see them through.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Australia's final group match is against West Indies while South Africa face England. As things stand it looks like Pakistan could face Australia in the semi-finals <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCup</a> <a href="https://t.co/TENIzJ5tf1">pic.twitter.com/TENIzJ5tf1</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1456236339196739590?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Can you imagine a bowler from any team other than BD celebrating a wicket exhuberantly when their team is on the verge of a humiliating defeat? Similarly, which group of fans would celebrate a wicket at this stage as though they have won the game? This kind of deluded mentality is causing BD issues.
 
Sri Lanka may not have shown the results but they clearly gave the talent to work with. At various stages, they challenged England and the SA natch was lost because of some brainless execution. They beat BD well and were rinsed by Australia.

I don't see any positives for BD. Yeah Taskin is bowling quick and Naim is gifted but schoolboy errors in catching, disastrous planning and execution - terrible cricket all round
 
Taskin is the only positive from this tournament for BD. He looks like has found new gears in him. Much stronger and fitter. Good signs pace bowling wise. Like Shoriful, still young, potentials there. Fizz is a worry. Never seen a bowler bowl 5 wides in an over in my life before!
 
Sri Lanka look a lot better than our pathetic Indian team in T20s
 
England v South Africa and Australia v West Indies will decide who qualifies for the semi-finals.

Looks like England and Australia to go through.
 
Same problem with Mickey

Glimpses of brilliance but cannot get the final job done
 
I think Sri Lanka can walk away from the World Cup with their heads held high.

They played well and their younger players showed a lot of potential.

They probably did as well as could be expected.
 
Rana said:
Same problem with Mickey

Glimpses of brilliance but cannot get the final job done
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Again a mixed bag selection some outstanding cricketers, some mediocre , and some Parchis in the team
Still haven't figured out the role of Dasun Shanaka
they lost last mach vs England because of him; they were pretty close to winning against South Africa only to get smacked for 15 runs in last over
 
Saj said:
I think Sri Lanka can walk away from the World Cup with their heads held high.

They played well and their younger players showed a lot of potential.

They probably did as well as could be expected.
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I agree. They were a complete mess just a few years ago and have turned it around very quickly. Expect them to contend soon
 
It was an absolute treat to watch this young Sri Lankan team. They were actually my favourite side of the tournament, and how I wished that they had somehow qualified for the semi-finals. The likes of Hasaranga, Asalanka, Rajapakse, etc., have given me a lot of hope for their cricket because the last thing that cricket needs is a decrease in the number of competitive teams. It may sound incredibly harsh on my part, but I would put the blame of two of their three defeats on the shoulders of Lahiru Kumara, alongside that horrible shot by Hasaranga against England. Anyway, Kumara was replaced today and the guy who played in his place bowled really well. Hasaranga can be forgivenn though, because he has been one of the best players of the tournament in general.

Well played, Sri Lanka. Hope to see you soon again,with the same spirit, but with better results. I hope.

Bangladesh cricket, on the other hand, has reached a new low from the recent years, as they weren't able to bring to effect even that solitary upset that they're otherwise known for. Mark Nicholas asked Athar Ali Khan in the commentary box whether it's an issue of talent. "No", he answered, assuring Nicholas that there's indeed a plenty of talent. Someone please, please, bring that talent to my television screen. Thank you!
 
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DHONI183 said:
It was an absolute treat to watch this young Sri Lankan team. They were actually my favourite side of the tournament, and how I wished that they had somehow qualified for the semi-finals. The likes of Hasaranga, Asalanka, Rajapakse, etc., have given me a lot of hope for their cricket because the last thing that cricket needs is a decrease in the number of competitive teams. It may sound incredibly harsh on my part, but I would put the blame of two of their three defeats on the shoulders of Lahiru Kumara, alongside that horrible shot by Hasaranga against England. Anyway, Kumara was replaced today and the guy who played in his place bowled really well. Hasaranga can be forgivenn though, because he has been one of the best players of the tournament in general.

Well played, Sri Lanka. Hope to see you soon again,with the same spirit, but with better results. I hope.

Bangladesh cricket, on the other hand, has reached a new low from the recent years, as they weren't able to bring to effect even that solitary upset that they're otherwise known for. Mark Nicholas asked Athar Ali Khan in the commentary box whether it's an issue of talent. "No", he answered, assuring Nicholas that there's indeed a plenty of talent. Someone please, please, bring that talent to my television screen. Thank you!
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I am hoping too much; but ICC should rather focus on teams like
Zimbabwe, Namibia, Ireland, etc. instead of Bangladesh

Zimbabwe can stand on its won if they resolve their internal issues and get proper funding and support from ICC. Ireland is progressing okays for now, but needs to push more.

Why waste $$ on Bangladesh. ICC could have reinvented Zimbabwe by now, but they spent their forces on Bangladesh..
 
iniqbal223 said:
I am hoping too much; but ICC should rather focus on teams like
Zimbabwe, Namibia, Ireland, etc. instead of Bangladesh

Zimbabwe can stand on its won if they resolve their internal issues and get proper funding and support from ICC. Ireland is progressing okays for now, but needs to push more.

Why waste $$ on Bangladesh. ICC could have reinvented Zimbabwe by now, but they spent their forces on Bangladesh..
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Bangladesh are not much dependent on ICC for funding. It is not a broke board.

Check here: https://www.tbsnews.net/sports/bcb-...-then-why-domestic-cricket-languishing-309406.

Finance is not an issue for BCB or Bangladesh. It is the quality of cricket that is the issue.
 
iniqbal223 said:
I am hoping too much; but ICC should rather focus on teams like
Zimbabwe, Namibia, Ireland, etc. instead of Bangladesh

Zimbabwe can stand on its won if they resolve their internal issues and get proper funding and support from ICC. Ireland is progressing okays for now, but needs to push more.

Why waste $$ on Bangladesh. ICC could have reinvented Zimbabwe by now, but they spent their forces on Bangladesh..
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Here are the earnings of cricket boards in 2021:

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Money is not the biggest issue for BCB.
 
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