Can top PSL teams beat top IPL teams?

[Afhan Ali]

Can PSL best team such as PZ and QG compete against the IPL teams?

 

[javid]

Why not

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

Peshawar's bowling is one of the best in the world.They can definitely beat any team.

 

[Bhaijaan]

We don't know until the Champions Trophy is reinstated but why not? Pakistan is a top cricket nation and some of the PSL clubs have been successful in getting services of some very fine overseas T20 specialists. and why not just PSL i think top teams in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc must also be up there since apart from local talent they overseas talent pool is pretty much the same.

India isn't a country known for T20 cricketing talent anyway.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Wish we had a champions trophy.

 

[Darkrai]

Although i don't watch IPL, seeing top IPL players fail in PSL suggests that PSL teams aren't as bad as some people would have you believe, compared to IPL teams.

 

[Bhaijaan]

But of course while we are respecting other leagues, let us also acknowledge that IPL in its 12th year. Many of the IPL teams now have years and years of experience playing as a unit and that counts for something.

Last year's IPL itself is a great example. Chennai Superkings, one of the most popular and successful IPL clubs was banned for 2 years and made its return last year. They kept the core group and went on to win the tournament last year.

Some of the popular overseas players also have developed a deep bonding with their respective IPL teams. So much so that some of these players now have more affiliation to their Indian cities than some of the Indian players.

ABD for instance when he is playing in Bangalore against India has all the home support. People love him to death over there. He is loved everywhere of course but Bangalore is literally his second home now.

Same with DJ Bravo at Chennai.

Ultimately there needs to be restriction on players playing more than 2 leagues including his home league. As long as that's not in place you simply cannot take this cricket seriously.

 

[Rana]

There needs to be a rule where all international players can only represent one franchise side. Only then we will know if Quetta Gladiators is better than CSK.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

But of course while we are respecting other leagues, let us also acknowledge that IPL in its 12th year. Many of the IPL teams now have years and years of experience playing as a unit and that counts for something.

Last year's IPL itself is a great example. Chennai Superkings, one of the most popular and successful IPL clubs was banned for 2 years and made its return last year. They kept the core group and went on to win the tournament last year.

Some of the popular overseas players also have developed a deep bonding with their respective IPL teams. So much so that some of these players now have more affiliation to their Indian cities than some of the Indian players.

ABD for instance when he is playing in Bangalore against India has all the home support. People love him to death over there. He is loved everywhere of course but Bangalore is literally his second home now.

Same with DJ Bravo at Chennai.

Ultimately there needs to be restriction on players playing more than 2 leagues including his home league. As long as that's not in place you simply cannot take this cricket seriously.

You are delusional if you think players like Devilliers, Bravo, Gayle love India. They come here only for money. Infact they don't give a damn about any league. They will say the same stuff for every league and every country they play in.

 

[Rana]

You are delusional if you think players like Devilliers, Bravo, Gayle love India. They come here only for money. Infact they don't give a damn about any league. They will say the same stuff for every league and every country they play in.

This is something I feel Indian fans will never understand or will choose to never understand.

 

[The_Odd_One]

In a T20, any team can beat any other team.So, the answer is we don't know.

 

[Bhaijaan]

You are delusional if you think players like Devilliers, Bravo, Gayle love India. They come here only for money. Infact they don't give a damn about any league. They will say the same stuff for every league and every country they play in.

Where did i say that overseas players love India or love it more than other countries.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Where did i say that overseas players love India or love it more than other countries.

Read the third paragraph of your post again and stop embarrassing yourself. Funniest part of that para is how foreign players love indian cities more than the indian players. This is your delusion.

 

[MMHS]

Why not? T20 is too short for on papers better team to make a come back from a tight corner. On their day, several teams can beat superior teams in T20 and we have seen that many times in short history of the format. In contrast, for 150 years of history, there are hardly any surprises in Test cricket because better skilled teams have multiple chances to make a comeback over 4 innnings. The 2 PSL finalists has some of the most explosive batsmen for short range, while Zalmi’s can knock any team 3-4 down in quick succession, which is basically end of the contest. In fact, top 3 BPL teams are also as good as one can be on their day.

But, over a 5 game series, I think every IPL team will beat every PSL team - at least by 3-2, worst can be even 5-0.

 

[Savak]

Why not? T20 is too short for on papers better team to make a come back from a tight corner. On their day, several teams can beat superior teams in T20 and we have seen that many times in short history of the format. In contrast, for 150 years of history, there are hardly any surprises in Test cricket because better skilled teams have multiple chances to make a comeback over 4 innnings. The 2 PSL finalists has some of the most explosive batsmen for short range, while Zalmi’s can knock any team 3-4 down in quick succession, which is basically end of the contest. In fact, top 3 BPL teams are also as good as one can be on their day.

But, over a 5 game series, I think every IPL team will beat every PSL team - at least by 3-2, worst can be even 5-0.

Lahore Badshah's beat IPL team and had a very close game with another IPL team in 2014 CT

 

[Rana]

Lahore Badshah's beat IPL team and had a very close game with another IPL team in 2014 CT

They beat Mumbai Indians, one of the strongest teams in IPL. I believe they had Pollard and Malinga playing in that match.

 

[Chokli]

We don't know until the Champions Trophy is reinstated but why not? Pakistan is a top cricket nation and some of the PSL clubs have been successful in getting services of some very fine overseas T20 specialists. and why not just PSL i think top teams in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc must also be up there since apart from local talent they overseas talent pool is pretty much the same.

India isn't a country known for T20 cricketing talent anyway.

Wish we had a champions trophy.

Lahore Badshah's beat IPL team and had a very close game with another IPL team in 2014 CT

it was the champions league not trophy, guys

and savak Badshah's were in ICL.

Lahore Lions defeated Mumbai Indians in 2014.

 

[jusarrived]

You are delusional if you think players like Devilliers, Bravo, Gayle love India. They come here only for money. Infact they don't give a damn about any league. They will say the same stuff for every league and every country they play in.

Except that Devilliers names his daughter India . Now tell me he was paid to do that as well .
India is very different from where these players come from , so it’s possible some of them hate it and it’s also possible some of them love the experience. I have met regular IT guys who have been living in India for years on much less salary than they would make in the west . So nothing delusional about what he said

 

[MMHS]

Lahore Badshah's beat IPL team and had a very close game with another IPL team in 2014 CT

Did I say anything else? It’s one game & remotely close any team can beat the better one with 1-2 players clicking on the day. Not sure which tournament, but did Lahore Badshah made it to the SF or Final? Overall, in a 5 game series IPL teams are much better and yes there will be odd days when even Multan Sultan will beat CSK and run Mumbai Indian very close.

 

[Chokli]

Did I say anything else? It’s one game & remotely close any team can beat the better one with 1-2 players clicking on the day. Not sure which tournament, but did Lahore Badshah made it to the SF or Final? Overall, in a 5 game series IPL teams are much better and yes there will be odd days when even Multan Sultan will beat CSK and run Mumbai Indian very close.

there is no lahore badshah, they were a banned ICL team

 

[Mamoon]

In a one-off game yes, but I would back every IPL franchise to beat every PSL franchise 8/10 times.

In fact, if Pakistan, the so-called number one T20I team in the world joins IPL as the 9th team, I don’t see it making the final let alone winning the tournament.

The IPL, along with the WT20, is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game. It is comfortably better than bilateral T20 cricket where we have racked up cheap wins to attain our artificial ranking.

If there is a WT20 today or if we join the IPL, we will be thoroughly exposed for the mediocre T20 team that we actually are.

 

[The Viper]

The thing is what about players who play for both? They will most likely choose to play for IPL. E.g Watson and Bravo for CSK rather than QG.

 

[IAJ]

It mostly depends on the foreign players. If only locals play then PSL teams have a bigger chance. But with the money IPL offer those players will play for IPL teams and that will make it tough for any PSL team.

 

[Bewal Express]

PSL bowling is much stronger than the IPL but the batting is inferior.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You are delusional if you think players like Devilliers, Bravo, Gayle love India. They come here only for money. Infact they don't give a damn about any league. They will say the same stuff for every league and every country they play in.

Dead on

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

In a one-off game yes, but I would back every IPL franchise to beat every PSL franchise 8/10 times.

In fact, if Pakistan, the so-called number one T20I team in the world joins IPL as the 9th team, I don’t see it making the final let alone winning the tournament.

The IPL, along with the WT20, is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game. It is comfortably better than bilateral T20 cricket where we have racked up cheap wins to attain our artificial ranking.

If there is a WT20 today or if we join the IPL, we will be thoroughly exposed for the mediocre T20 team that we actually are.

What a joke. Lahore Lions with no international players beat Mumbai Indians from "the highest form of T20 cricket in the game" back in 2014. It's also ironic that India have won no WT20 titles since they started the IPL. You'd think it would be the other way around when you have a league that features the highest form of T20 cricket. .

 

[Rana]

In a one-off game yes, but I would back every IPL franchise to beat every PSL franchise 8/10 times.

In fact, if Pakistan, the so-called number one T20I team in the world joins IPL as the 9th team, I don’t see it making the final let alone winning the tournament.

The IPL, along with the WT20, is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game. It is comfortably better than bilateral T20 cricket where we have racked up cheap wins to attain our artificial ranking.

If there is a WT20 today or if we join the IPL, we will be thoroughly exposed for the mediocre T20 team that we actually are.

Bro you imagine way to much. Just like when Shubman Gill is already a better batsman than Babar Azam before Gill faced a single ball at senior international cricket. Chill out my friend.

 

[Manager101]

In a one-off game yes, but I would back every IPL franchise to beat every PSL franchise 8/10 times.

In fact, if Pakistan, the so-called number one T20I team in the world joins IPL as the 9th team, I don’t see it making the final let alone winning the tournament.

The IPL, along with the WT20, is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game. It is comfortably better than bilateral T20 cricket where we have racked up cheap wins to attain our artificial ranking.

If there is a WT20 today or if we join the IPL, we will be thoroughly exposed for the mediocre T20 team that we actually are.

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You should be given Oscar award for trolling.

 

[big_gamer007]

In T20is individuals can turn the table in any match so anyone can win in one off matches. Consistency is not rewarded as in other formats. Haven't watched PSL but I believe any team in PSL or any other league will always have a chance to beat any IPL team in T20s

 

[Hitman]

Except that Devilliers names his daughter India . Now tell me he was paid to do that as well .
India is very different from where these players come from , so it’s possible some of them hate it and it’s also possible some of them love the experience. I have met regular IT guys who have been living in India for years on much less salary than they would make in the west . So nothing delusional about what he said

I think Johnty Rhodes named his daughter India.

 

[Hasan123]

You are delusional if you think players like Devilliers, Bravo, Gayle love India. They come here only for money. Infact they don't give a damn about any league. They will say the same stuff for every league and every country they play in.

Someone like AB doesn’t need to say anything about India and he will be selected for the IPL. You think AB is chosen for the IPL due to say nice things about India ? Or shall we forget about his career performances?

Also name a player who was selected for saying nice things about a league year in and year out despite being rubbish?

 

[Hasan123]

As someone who has followed both leagues, IPL teams should beat PSL teams black and blue most times.

 

[prisha]

The thing is what about players who play for both? They will most likely choose to play for IPL. E.g Watson and Bravo for CSK rather than QG.

Why is that ? I thought they enjoyed playing PSL more than ipl

 

[Thomaskutty]

Some of the popular overseas players also have developed a deep bonding with their respective IPL teams. So much so that some of these players now have more affiliation to their Indian cities than some of the Indian players.

ABD for instance when he is playing in Bangalore against India has all the home support. People love him to death over there. He is loved everywhere of course but Bangalore is literally his second home now.

Same with DJ Bravo at Chennai..

Much as I'd like this to be true, this is an exaggeration. There is no unique cultural love for the IPL. It's all about the money, and always will be.

 

[unemployedgm]

100 Percent

 

[Mbappe]

Ha ha ha... people Don't check their facts before diving into an argument although Indian's gullible love for these stars makes india unique. These cricketers aren't even recognized in their own countries but Indians make them feel like Rockstars and even as one of their own.

 

[prisha]

Ha ha ha... people Don't check their facts before diving into an argument although Indian's gullible love for these stars makes india unique. These cricketers aren't even recognized in their own countries but Indians make them feel like Rockstars and even as one of their own.

Yes yes weren’t we the ones who were giving bravo honorary citizenship. Gullible Indians ��

 

[Mbappe]

Yes yes weren’t we the ones who were giving bravo honorary citizenship. Gullible Indians ��

Pakistan are desperate for global approval, they would do anything to win the status of a cricket destination. India on the other end is 'the destination' and enjoys the same monopoly over cricket world , that US does over global politics and economics.
Pakistan doesn't have a celebrity culture along the same lines as India

 

[Abdullah719]

Islamabad United owner calls for matches between IPL and PSL teams

Karachi, Jan 29 (PTI) Ali Naqvi, the owner of the Islamabad United franchise, who are the defending champions in the Pakistan Super League, has called for matches to be played between the Indian Premier League (IPL) and PSL teams.
"I think we should consider having regular matches between teams from the IPL and PSL which are the best leagues in the world," Naqvi told reporter here.

Naqvi said he had also suggested to the owners of the Mumbai Indians to play a friendly with Islamabad United but that didn''t happen.

Naqvi, however, conceded that conditions at present were not conducive for this to happen but said cricket always has played a big role in reducing tensions between Pakistan and India.

"Some thought should be given to this suggestion. It can happen sometime in the future," he said.

Incidentally, former Pakistan allrounder Abdul Razzaq had made a similar suggestion a few days back, calling for a match between the champion teams of both leagues.

But he copped lot of flak when he said that PSL was a more quality league and that PSL team would beat the IPL side.

Naqvi announced that New Zealand''s Luke Ronchi would be the coach-cum-player in the upcoming PSL 5 and he will work with head coach, Misbah-ul-Haq.

The PSL 5 is being held for the first time in Pakistan from February 20 with matches in Karachi, Lahore, Rawalpindi and Multan.

The Pakistan Cricket Board has achieved notable success by getting some top foreign players to agree to play the league in Pakistan.

https://www.outlookindia.com/newssc...for-matches-between-ipl-and-psl-teams/1720688

 

[Rudi hater]

In a one-off game yes, but I would back every IPL franchise to beat every PSL franchise 8/10 times.

In fact, if Pakistan, the so-called number one T20I team in the world joins IPL as the 9th team, I don’t see it making the final let alone winning the tournament.

The IPL, along with the WT20, is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game. It is comfortably better than bilateral T20 cricket where we have racked up cheap wins to attain our artificial ranking.

If there is a WT20 today or if we join the IPL, we will be thoroughly exposed for the mediocre T20 team that we actually are.

You are at it again I ranked Big Bash much much suprior than IPL. IPL is played on low slow batting paradise. The real cricket is in Australia. BBash will beat every IPL side day in day out including PSL.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You are at it again I ranked Big Bash much much suprior than IPL. IPL is played on low slow batting paradise. The real cricket is in Australia. BBash will beat every IPL side day in day out including PSL.

Anyone who plays at Wankhede, Mohali, Chinnaswamy, Dharmasala will disagree with that . They all have good bounce. Only two pitches are low and slow Chennai and Delhi. Rest of the stuffs you say is imaginary. I doubt any team that is led by Rohit sharma for MI is easily beatable. Won 4 IPLs in 5 years. Dhoni is old now. But old Dhoni as a captain was a very tough nut. Only Kane williamson as a captain has come close to matching them.

 

[Mamoon]

What a joke. Lahore Lions with no international players beat Mumbai Indians from "the highest form of T20 cricket in the game" back in 2014. It's also ironic that India have won no WT20 titles since they started the IPL. You'd think it would be the other way around when you have a league that features the highest form of T20 cricket. .

Sorry, I missed this misinformed post.

Lahore Lions, with plenty of international players, beat a weak Mumbai team who were without Rohit.

The Mumbai had the following batting lineup:

Simmons
Hussey
Saxena
Rayudu
Tare
Pollard

That is a terrible lineup. Hussey is the only quality batsman in that lineup but this match was in 2014 and he was finished by then.

Any half-decent T20 side would walk over this awful batting lineup.

In comparison, Lahore Lions had Shehzad, Jamshed, Hafeez and Umar Akmal. A more than decent lineup especially for 2014 and clearly better than Mumbai Indians’.

Mumbai had Bumrah but he was 21 year old at the time and nothing like the bowler he is today. He was not nothing special until 2016.

I stick by what I said nearly a year ago. Pakistan is a deeply mediocre T20I team and its ranking is the greatest work of fiction since Lord of the Rings. If Pakistan were to join the IPL as the 9th franchise, it will get whooped provided that the other franchises are at full-strength.

 

[Mamoon]

You are at it again I ranked Big Bash much much suprior than IPL. IPL is played on low slow batting paradise. The real cricket is in Australia. BBash will beat every IPL side day in day out including PSL.

There is so much misinformation in your post that I don’t know where to begin. Big Bash is garbage compared to the IPL which is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game. The quality of overseas players in Big Bash is even worse than PSL.

Moreover, there is no such thing as a “low slow batting paradise”. Low and slow wickets is actually a bowler’s paradise, because it is very difficult to play big shots on such wickets and 140-150 odd becomes the par score. That is what happens during the PSL in the UAE leg.

IPL is played on proper T20 wickets where you get value for power-hitting. The Pakistani team will be badly exposed on such tracks and will get thumped in the IPL.

You can rank Big Bash and PSL and your backyard cricket higher than IPL, but the truth is that no T20 league is anywhere close to the giant that IPL is today. Frankly speaking, IPL is a bigger brand than all international teams except the big three.

 

[minamino]

No, because most of the foreign players will play for their IPL teams and the average ones will play for PSL.

 

[Markhor]

The quality of "cricket" in PSL is bang average. They would be hammered against the top IPL teams which attracts the world's best foreign players.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You can give a rubbish team to Dhoni, He will turn it into a gold. He has this midas touch no other T20 league captain has.

 

[Rudi hater]

There is so much misinformation in your post that I don’t know where to begin. Big Bash is garbage compared to the IPL which is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game. The quality of overseas players in Big Bash is even worse than PSL.

Moreover, there is no such thing as a “low slow batting paradise”. Low and slow wickets is actually a bowler’s paradise, because it is very difficult to play big shots on such wickets and 140-150 odd becomes the par score. That is what happens during the PSL in the UAE leg.

IPL is played on proper T20 wickets where you get value for power-hitting. The Pakistani team will be badly exposed on such tracks and will get thumped in the IPL.

You can rank Big Bash and PSL and your backyard cricket higher than IPL, but the truth is that no T20 league is anywhere close to the giant that IPL is today. Frankly speaking, IPL is a bigger brand than all international teams except the big three.

Lets be honest Big Bash is mile better than any other league. I was compareing the leagues around where did Pakistan come from? You seem to have phobia against Pakistan which I can understand.

Now ask any batsman if he likes to bat on a slow low batting track or bouney fast track, I am sure if you have little bit of knowlege you pick the low slow. IPL, PSL, CBL etc all the same. I am of course a neutral observer.

 

[Rudi hater]

I have yet to see any Indian pitch barring Mohali where you get little bit of seam movement rest are all batting paradise pitches. India is the only country that procuces more than 300 runs consistently in ODIs. Bowlers get smashed and only spinners get some help.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I have yet to see any Indian pitch barring Mohali where you get little bit of seam movement rest are all batting paradise pitches. India is the only country that procuces more than 300 runs consistently in ODIs. Bowlers get smashed and only spinners get some help.

Did you even follow 2015 world cup? Did you check the scorecards?

 

[Rudi hater]

Did you even follow 2015 world cup? Did you check the scorecards?

Have checked recent ODIs? WC 2015 ICC was responsible for pitches not India.

 

[Mesozoic]

Now ask any batsman if he likes to bat on a slow low batting track or bouney fast track, I am sure if you have little bit of knowlege you pick the low slow.

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Please stop embarassing yourselves. No batsman with a mg of brain in his head would ever pick slow low tracks.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Have checked recent ODIs? WC 2015 ICC was responsible for pitches not India.

Their pitches are flat as well Only difference is grounds are bigger. Someone like Matthewe wade makes 130 only in Australia lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

I did catch some of the BBL this season. It is absolutely poor. Commentary is the only good thing. Very substandard cricket. Bowling more importantly strategies are very poor.

 

[Rudi hater]

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Please stop embarassing yourselves. No batsman with a mg of brain in his head would ever pick slow low tracks.

LOL you will pick picth with fast bouncey track? now that shows how much you know about cricket.

 

[Rudi hater]

I did catch some of the BBL this season. It is absolutely poor. Commentary is the only good thing. Very substandard cricket. Bowling more importantly strategies are very poor.

LOL. I can only laugh. Australia has the best domestic competitions, and the best infrastructure. Whether you like or not followed by England and then India.

 

[Hyperion66]

You are at it again I ranked Big Bash much much suprior than IPL. IPL is played on low slow batting paradise. The real cricket is in Australia. BBash will beat every IPL side day in day out including PSL.

The hell you are talking about? IPL isn't played in UAE or Pakistan.

In terms of foreign players quality big bash is one of the worst, their domestics players are no world beaters as well, this is not 2000.

 

[jnaveen1980]

LOL. I can only laugh. Australia has the best domestic competitions, and the best infrastructure. Whether you like or not followed by England and then India.

Sorry man. I disagree with you. It is really poor. The atmosphere, pressure cooker scenarios, strategies, quality of players, matchups, variety of pitches, it is not even on the same planet as IPL. All type of bowles get something out of it. Challenges your ability against spin, pace. This is just my 2c.

 

[Rudi hater]

The hell you are talking about? IPL isn't played in UAE or Pakistan.

In terms of foreign players quality big bash is one of the worst, their domestics players are no world beaters as well, this is not 2000.

Big Bash is usless according to you but if you ask a neutral observer, it is mile ahead of other leagues. It seems people getting all emotional and not judging it with calm head. Of course you support India and you would say IPL is the best thing since the invention of slice bread.

 

[Hyperion66]

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Please stop embarassing yourselves. No batsman with a mg of brain in his head would ever pick slow low tracks.

He is specifically speaking of Pak bats who are decent in slow low tracks but get their rear handed to them on fast bouncy track.

 

[Rudi hater]

Sorry man. I disagree with you. It is really poor. The atmosphere, pressure cooker scenarios, strategies, quality of players, matchups, variety of pitches, it is not even on the same planet as IPL. All type of bowles get something out of it. Challenges your ability against spin, pace. This is just my 2c.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. IPL is far richer league than any league around but if you compare it with others Big Bash much tougher. Better cricket where both bowlers and batters get equal chance.

 

[Rudi hater]

He is specifically speaking of Pak bats who are decent in slow low tracks but get their rear handed to them on fast bouncy track.

PSL is no where near Big Bash.

 

[Hyperion66]

LOL you will pick picth with fast bouncey track? now that shows how much you know about cricket.

Any decent batsman would choose fast bouncy track over slow tracks because they prefer ball coming onto bat fast as that makes timing while stroke making easy, but this is probably an alien concept for you since Pak batsmen are by and large strokeless wonders, so no wonder they would pick slow tracks over fast ones.

 

[Rudi hater]

He is specifically speaking of Pak bats who are decent in slow low tracks but get their rear handed to them on fast bouncy track.

I noticed our Indian posters get too emotional, I did not even criticised IPL in my opnion cricket standard is better in Big Bash now why are all our Indian friends getting touchy?

 

[Rudi hater]

Any decent batsman would choose fast bouncy track over slow tracks because they prefer ball coming onto bat fast as that makes timing while stroke making easy, but this is probably an alien concept for you since Pak batsmen are by and large strokeless wonders, so no wonder they would pick slow tracks over fast ones.

I am sorry but India has always been batting friendly no fast bowlers get any help from the pitches whereas in Big Bash bowlers and batters both get assistance. Ask any neutral observer of cours Indian would say IPL is great which is fine I respect that.

 

[Mesozoic]

Big Bash is usless according to you but if you ask a neutral observer, it is mile ahead of other leagues. It seems people getting all emotional and not judging it with calm head. Of course you support India and you would say IPL is the best thing since the invention of slice bread.

Miles ahead in terms of what exactly ?

Quality of cricket ? A hack like Stoinis is the top scorer and no.2 is an England reject Alex Hales. You may have your bias for obvious reasons but kindly don't project that onto all the "neutral observers".

 

[Titan24]

LOL. I can only laugh. Australia has the best domestic competitions, and the best infrastructure. Whether you like or not followed by England and then India.

I guess you are confusing BBL with Sheffield Shield and one day competition.

Aus domestic structure has 6 main teams which allows only their top players to play against each other, strong school cricket, club cricket and overall grass root structure which develops players pretty well.

However, when it comes to BBL vs other leagues the number rises to 8 teams like some other leagues but unlike most other leagues with not much players with international experience as all their national contracted players dont play in that more often than not due to international commitments. On top of that arguably the quality of international players in recent times and unarguably the quantity where other leagues operate with 3-4 international players while BBL teams sometimes operate without one.

BBL isnt operating on the same vision as some other leagues which has compromised the quality big time in last couple of seasons. Without Aussie national players on most occasions and without decent 3-4 overseas players how will there be quality as even their domestic league has 6 teams and rising the number to 8 in BBL only brings in few other Aussie players who are either still developing or were never good enough to play for 6 state teams regularly.

 

[Rudi hater]

Miles ahead in terms of what exactly ?

Quality of cricket ? A hack like Stoinis is the top scorer and no.2 is an England reject Alex Hales. You may have your bias for obvious reasons but kindly don't project that onto all the "neutral observers".

Miles ahead of bowling, batting and fielding. We can go on forever but my conclusion would be the same.

 

[Rudi hater]

I guess you are confusing BBL with Sheffield Shield and one day competition.

Aus domestic structure has 6 main teams which allows only their top players to play against each other, strong school cricket, club cricket and overall grass root structure which develops player really well.

However, when it comes to BBL vs other leagues the number rises to 8 teams like some other leagues but unlike most other league with not much players with international experience as all their national contracted players dont play in that more often than not due to international commitments. On top of that arguably the quality of international players in recent times and unarguably the quantity where other leagues operate with 3-4 international players while BBL teams sometimes operate without one.

BBL isnt operating on the same vision as some other leagues which has compromised the quality big time in last couple of seasons. Without Aussie national players on most occasions and without decent 3-4 overseas players how will there be quality as even their domestic league has 6 teams and rising the number to 8 in BBL only brings in few other Aussie players who are either still developing or were never good enough to play for 6 state teams regularly.

LOL. No I know what sheffieild Sheild and Big Bash is. Thats why I said their cricket format and their domestic structure is much better than any cricket playing nation.

 

[Mesozoic]

I am sorry but India has always been batting friendly no fast bowlers get any help from the pitches whereas in Big Bash bowlers and batters both get assistance. Ask any neutral observer of cours Indian would say IPL is great which is fine I respect that.

Bowlers and batters both get "assistance" in BPL and PSL as well looking at the average scores there. Does that mean they're better than IPL ? What logic is that ?

 

[Rudi hater]

Bowlers and batters both get "assistance" in BPL and PSL as well looking at the average scores there. Does that mean they're better than IPL ? What logic is that ?

No Batters scores runs and bowlers get wickets. I don't have time for this. Big Bash is better than PSL, BPL, IPL , T20 Blast etc.

 

[Titan24]

LOL. No I know what sheffieild Sheild and Big Bash is. Thats why I said their cricket format and their domestic structure is much better than any cricket playing nation.

I guess nobody was targeting Aussie domestic structure but rather commenting upon the quality of Big Bash.

As I said and I repeat my last paragraph: BBL isnt operating on the same vision as some other leagues which has compromised the quality big time in last couple of seasons. Without Aussie national players on most occasions and without decent 3-4 overseas players how will there be quality as even their domestic league has 6 teams and rising the number to 8 in BBL only brings in few other Aussie players who are either still developing or were never good enough to play for 6 state teams regularly.

So obviously BBL's quality isnt as good as some other leagues currently.

 

[Rudi hater]

I guess nobody was targeting Aussie domestic structure but rather commenting upon the quality of Big Bash.

As I said and I repeat my last paragraph: BBL isnt operating on the same vision as some other leagues which has compromised the quality big time in last couple of seasons. Without Aussie national players on most occasions and without decent 3-4 overseas players how will there be quality as even their domestic league has 6 teams and rising the number to 8 in BBL only brings in few other Aussie players who are either still developing or were never good enough to play for 6 state teams regularly.

So obviously BBL's quality isnt as good as some other leagues currently.

OK your opnion. I watched cricket for a long time and played it as well. I know what I am talking about yet you are entitled your opnion. Lets just say we agree to disagree.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

If I remember correctly Lahore Lions, without a single foreign player in its roster, defeated Mumbai Indians in one of the champions league games. So it’s not something impossible for a relatively stronger PSL side to beat an IPL side.

 

[Hyperion66]

I noticed our Indian posters get too emotional, I did not even criticised IPL in my opnion cricket standard is better in Big Bash now why are all our Indian friends getting touchy?

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, if refuting your points makes me emotional I couldn't care any less. If you are so sensitive to different opinions and replies that counter your arguments may be internet isn't for you bud.

 

[Hyperion66]

Miles ahead of bowling, batting and fielding. We can go on forever but my conclusion would be the same.

At least try to make sense man, don't just type out random thoughts, what miles ahead of bowling, batting and fielding?

 

[Hitman]

The best league is where the best cricketers in the world prefer to play. Can anyone disagree with this simple fact?

P.S. I don't follow league cricket at all.

 

[Major]

ALot of posters don't follow IPL, there is a big hell of a difference between PSL and IPL.

IPL has talent scouts in place. THey scout people that good for t20 cricket specifically.

Pravin Tambe, James Faulkner, and alot of other players wee scouted before getting IPL contracts. ALot of england batsmen and australian bowlers were scouted aswell.

Sandeep Lamichane was scouted.

PSL doesnt scout cricketers. You can say Lahore Qalanders does scout players to some extent. But what they do is mostly seems marketing to me.
WHoever Lahore scouts, they dont really develop him, they just act as agents and get that cricketer a contract where that cricketer develops and performs and Qalanders come back to take credit.

 

[Major]

Faisalabad woles an SNGPL scouted players and that was due to Misbah and Hafeez. ANy player they saw was good they bought him in.

 

[Titan24]

ALot of posters don't follow IPL, there is a big hell of a difference between PSL and IPL.

IPL has talent scouts in place. THey scout people that good for t20 cricket specifically.

Pravin Tambe, James Faulkner, and alot of other players wee scouted before getting IPL contracts. ALot of england batsmen and australian bowlers were scouted aswell.

Sandeep Lamichane was scouted.

PSL doesnt scout cricketers. You can say Lahore Qalanders does scout players to some extent. But what they do is mostly seems marketing to me.
WHoever Lahore scouts, they dont really develop him, they just act as agents and get that cricketer a contract where that cricketer develops and performs and Qalanders come back to take credit.

What LQ did is a rarity in any cricket league and that is to develop a player from nowhere. Yes there are exceptions.

Normal Idea of scouts in cricket works upon finding good T20 cricketers for the league from the domestic setup which PSL teams do as well. Even if one looks at PSL 2020 squads, guys like Zeeshan Ashraf, Aamir Khan, Arshad Iqbal, Rizwan Hussain, Akif Javed etc are drafted through based upon proper research, scouts input, trials and other such methods.

Ofcourse, IPL is a much older league and has a better scout structure in place but its not like there is no structure in PSL as there are analysts and scouts part of each team's staff.

 

[Major]

What LQ did is a rarity in any cricket league and that is to develop a player from nowhere. Yes there are exceptions.

Normal Idea of scouts in cricket works upon finding good T20 cricketers for the league from the domestic setup which PSL teams do as well. Even if one looks at PSL 2020 squads, guys like Zeeshan Ashraf, Aamir Khan, Arshad Iqbal, Rizwan Hussain, Akif Javed etc are drafted through based upon proper research, scouts input, trials and other such methods.

Ofcourse, IPL is a much older league and has a better scout structure in place but its not like there is no structure in PSL as there are analysts and scouts part of each team's staff.

but the players that you have mentioned, weren't these players that were already there in our domestic set up?

because the thing is, the amount of small cricket leagues we have like hte ramazan tournaments, nigth torunaments and tape ball, we rarely see any PSL team bringing in a specialist T20 player.

Haris Rauf was one, and the other was maybe Sohail Akhtar