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Muslims and Jews have lived side by side for thousands of years. There is no conflict between regular Jews and regular Muslims. Conflict is at political level (Zionism).
I think you need a history lesson.
Jews and Muslims are peaceful with each other in the west. No conflict whatsoever in Canada.
Problem arises when Zionism gets involved.
Also, Jews and Muslims lived peacefully together during Ottoman times. Things started to get nasty After Israel happened.
Right. So the massacre Banu Qurayza was peaceful? The 1033 Fez massacre in Morocco? The Granada massacre in 1066? The looting of Safed in 1834? These were all very peaceful incidents?
what about the Mawza Exile where the Imam of Yemen banished all the Jews living in the region? What about when the Almohad Caliphate took over Spain and force converted Christians and Jews to Islam.
A massacre of Jews also occurred in Baghdad in 1828. There was another massacre in Barfurush in 1867. In 1839 in Persia (Allahbad Incident).
Riots, persecution and violence against Jews took place everywhere
Aleppo (1850, 1875)
Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07)
Beirut (1862, 1874)
Buyukdere (1864)
Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02)
Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891)
Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890)
Dayr al-Qamar (1847)
Edirne (1872)
Eyub (1868)
Istanbul (1870, 1874)
Izmir (1872, 1874).
Jerusalem (1847)
Kuzguncuk (1866)
Mansura (1877)
Port Said (1903, 1908)
Yes, all very peaceful and this is all religion inspired starting from Banu Qurayza. Muslims are taught to hate Jews growing up. Here is what the Hadith say about Jews:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (Sahih Muslim, 41:6985 and Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:56:791)
The only Jewish communities that lived "peacefully" with Muslims were only those that were under Muslim rule and they enjoyed toleration and limited rights as long as they accepted Muslim superiority and the restrictions placed upon them. What restrictions you might ask? Here's a list:
-Payment of higher taxes
-Being forced to wear clothing or some other insignia distinguishing them from Muslims
-Barred from holding public office
-Barred from bearing arms or riding a horse
-Disqualified as witnesses in litigation involving Muslims
-Prevented from repairing existing or erecting new places of worship.
Jews unfortunately are targeted everywhere in the world for some reason even in europe during middle ages there are accounts of soul wrenching violence against tham and the excuse was related to Christianity mostly but in reality the violence was caused by economics or just a random beef so I think most of the violence against jews in Muslim world wouldn't even be because of Islam but for other things and other things that you mentioned I think falls in the same category where this was just part of the global dislike for the jews at the time, not necessarily because of religionRight. So the massacre Banu Qurayza was peaceful? The 1033 Fez massacre in Morocco? The Granada massacre in 1066? The looting of Safed in 1834? These were all very peaceful incidents?
what about the Mawza Exile where the Imam of Yemen banished all the Jews living in the region? What about when the Almohad Caliphate took over Spain and force converted Christians and Jews to Islam.
A massacre of Jews also occurred in Baghdad in 1828. There was another massacre in Barfurush in 1867. In 1839 in Persia (Allahbad Incident).
Riots, persecution and violence against Jews took place everywhere
Aleppo (1850, 1875)
Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07)
Beirut (1862, 1874)
Buyukdere (1864)
Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02)
Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891)
Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890)
Dayr al-Qamar (1847)
Edirne (1872)
Eyub (1868)
Istanbul (1870, 1874)
Izmir (1872, 1874).
Jerusalem (1847)
Kuzguncuk (1866)
Mansura (1877)
Port Said (1903, 1908)
Yes, all very peaceful and this is all religion inspired starting from Banu Qurayza. Muslims are taught to hate Jews growing up. Here is what the Hadith say about Jews:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (Sahih Muslim, 41:6985 and Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:56:791)
The only Jewish communities that lived "peacefully" with Muslims were only those that were under Muslim rule and they enjoyed toleration and limited rights as long as they accepted Muslim superiority and the restrictions placed upon them. What restrictions you might ask? Here's a list:
-Payment of higher taxes
-Being forced to wear clothing or some other insignia distinguishing them from Muslims
-Barred from holding public office
-Barred from bearing arms or riding a horse
-Disqualified as witnesses in litigation involving Muslims
-Prevented from repairing existing or erecting new places of worship.
He's praying with his shoes on?
thats. not true. jews have never lived peacefully under muslim or christian. never as equals and on many instances treated very badly.Jews and Muslims are peaceful with each other in the west. No conflict whatsoever in Canada.
Problem arises when Zionism gets involved.
Also, Jews and Muslims lived peacefully together during Ottoman times. Things started to get nasty After Israel happened.