Chief Selector Inzamam-ul-Haq, The Revolutionary - Performance Watch

[Bilal7]

Inzamam needs to clarify why Akmal was selected in the squad if he wasn't fit. The CS dropped Umar from the squad before because he was unfit so its not like Inzamam does not care about his players' fitness.

It is possible that Akmal totally let himself go after the squad was announced but whatever it is, the truth needs to come out.

 

[Markhor]

The Revolution has BEGUN.

 

[Macho Mann]

4 debuts in the tournament, this is pathetic management and selection to be honest

all e did was put PSL performing players in the team, still couldnt get basics correct and brought azhar ali, wahab riaz in the team and also wanted to bring umer akmal

 

[Rayyman]

Thank You Inzi for selecting these champions.

 

[shaz619]

The Revolution has BEGUN.

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[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] change your signature dammit!

Go on Markhor !

 

[Zues]

bring in shahibzada Farhan and Aamir Yamin and 15 man one day team is complete

 

[Savak]

Inzi proving his worth as Chief Selector. Must get credit for selecting Fakhar, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan.

 

[mak36]

4 debuts in the tournament, this is pathetic management and selection to be honest

all e did was put PSL performing players in the team, still couldnt get basics correct and brought azhar ali, wahab riaz in the team and also wanted to bring umer akmal

Cheer up and enjoy the moment.

The job of selector looks easy when things go well...

 

[Markhor]

Inzamam's selections have been superb in ODIs and T20s. Injected young blood and has not chopped and changed excessively.

Needs to kick out Shan Masood in Tests though.

 

[ExpressPacer]

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] Gotta agree with you man. One of the better sectors we've had.

 

[shaz619]

The Revolution has BEGUN.

Your best post ever )
[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Would love to shove that image down the throat of many posters on PP They called him the revolutionary out of ridicule but he became just that and so much more, all you PEASANTS BOW to LORD INZI !

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] Gotta agree with you man. One of the better sectors we've had.

I accept constructive criticism but backward judgements based on various agendas are disgusting and lack objectivity. He has done a pretty decent job every since being given the role, no one is perfect but it is clear he has a decent eye for talent compared to past selectors and especially arm chair experts who think they are students of the game.

 

[babajee]

Inzi is the best selector in the world [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

 

[pkwdpassion]

Rofl his nephew that he selected averages 36 and there are players in Pakistan who average 40+, from Fawad Alam to Farhan to Hussain Tallat and many more who would thrash this downgraded Sri Lanka side to pieces.

Inzimam continues to select the seniors who are leeches to opportunities for players of great calibre in Pakistans domestic.

 

[Bilal7]

Should be sacked. But I think we are stuck with his dishonest policies for a while. Has made some good decisions but his bad ones have been sackable offences.

The CT squad selection was the final straw for me. Can't back him after that.

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What a horrible post.

Inzamam with another a great squad selection. People were whining about nepotism but Imam was selected on merit and this hundred proved it. Chief Aloo is the greatest Pakistani selector we have ever had.

 

[Bilal7]

Rofl his nephew that he selected averages 36 and there are players in Pakistan who average 40+, from Fawad Alam to Farhan to Hussain Tallat and many more who would thrash this downgraded Sri Lanka side to pieces.

Inzimam continues to select the seniors who are leeches to opportunities for players of great calibre in Pakistans domestic.

His nephew is 21, Fawad is 30. Stop posting garbage like this.

 

[Bilal7]

Your best post ever )
[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Would love to shove that image down the throat of many posters on PP They called him the revolutionary out of ridicule but he became just that and so much more, all you PEASANTS BOW to LORD INZI !

[MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION], can you post a gif about Inzi beating up that idiot fan, like only you can? Would be symbolic of what Inzi is doing to his detractors.

 

[Hamza78]

Best selector we ever have

 

[Syed1]

Guys lets not get ahead of ourselves


It's not like we were playing the Aussies of 2000s, we did happen to get whitewashed in the test series just a week or so ago.

 

[babajee]

Guys lets not get ahead of ourselves


It's not like we were playing the Aussies of 2000s, we did happen to get whitewashed in the test series just a week or so ago.

Let’s be honest you’d take Inzamam over any other selector we’ve had.

 

[New Yorker]

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What a horrible post.

Inzamam with another a great squad selection. People were whining about nepotism but Imam was selected on merit and this hundred proved it. Chief Aloo is the greatest Pakistani selector we have ever had.

Imam's hundred against Lanka proves that Imam scored a hundred against Lanka. His domestic record didn't change, and remains mediocre to poor. He could have been out three or four times in his innings and if he had it also would not have changed the verdict on Inzi's selection. The fact is there are players who warrant selection over Imam, and these players are more likely than him to do well over the long term. The correlation between LA domestic stats and ODI performance is quite good. Let's revisit this thread 20 ODIs from now.

 

[coy0607]

Imam's hundred against Lanka proves that Imam scored a hundred against Lanka. His domestic record didn't change, and remains mediocre to poor. He could have been out three or four times in his innings and if he had it also would not have changed the verdict on Inzi's selection. The fact is there are players who warrant selection over Imam, and these players are more likely than him to do well over the long term. The correlation between LA domestic stats and ODI performance is quite good. Let's revisit this thread 20 ODIs from now.

who warranted a selection more than Imam?

 

[Hasan123]

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What a horrible post.

Inzamam with another a great squad selection. People were whining about nepotism but Imam was selected on merit and this hundred proved it. Chief Aloo is the greatest Pakistani selector we have ever had.

He has made some good selections but some of his selections have been absolutely dreadful. Maybe in hindsight that comment was OTT from myself but calling him the greatest selector is an OTT comment.

Also never said Imam was rubbish, thought he was more of a test player.

 

[kingusama92]

Imam's hundred against Lanka proves that Imam scored a hundred against Lanka. His domestic record didn't change, and remains mediocre to poor. He could have been out three or four times in his innings and if he had it also would not have changed the verdict on Inzi's selection. The fact is there are players who warrant selection over Imam, and these players are more likely than him to do well over the long term. The correlation between LA domestic stats and ODI performance is quite good. Let's revisit this thread 20 ODIs from now.

Such as?

Sahibzada Farhan? He's only played 9 List A matches.

Salman Butt, Ahmed Shahzad, Kamran Akmal aren't worth it. Sharjeel and Khalid Latif are banned. Shahzaib Hasan and Mukhtar Ahmed are pure sloggers.

I don't see anyone who is a legitimate no-doubter when it comes to selection.

It's important to note Imam is also one of the best U19 performers in PAK history.

 

[New Yorker]

Such as?

Sahibzada Farhan? He's only played 9 List A matches.

Salman Butt, Ahmed Shahzad, Kamran Akmal aren't worth it. Sharjeel and Khalid Latif are banned. Shahzaib Hasan and Mukhtar Ahmed are pure sloggers.

I don't see anyone who is a legitimate no-doubter when it comes to selection.

It's important to note Imam is also one of the best U19 performers in PAK history.

It's important to mention Imam's U 19 record because that's what his selection is based on; he's been in awful domestic LA forms. But If U 19 performance alone is the basis for selection then Sami Aslam is ahead of him. If one takes into consideration performance in more advanced levels, Sami Aslam is ahead of him by more. But more to the point, if Imam's kindergarten knocks get to count, why are we only counting Sahibzada's last 9 List A games? If we take into account also Sahibzada's U 19 record then he is clearly already a seasoned campaigner. If take into account performance in domestic one days then Imam is behind Aslam, Amin, Haris, Sahibzada, to name but a few of the more promising young or youngish talents. This apart from considering the possibility of using a player who is already established in the one day set up, like Shadab, or Faheem, as a pinch hitter.

also, hard to argue that ave 36 sr 74 is a no-doubter

 

[mak36]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Inzi is one of the best CS Pakistan has ever had.

Many don't realise how difficult a job it is. Being CS does not mean just looking at stats. There is something called having an eye for talent.

Many also need to realise you can criticise/disagree with individual decisions he makes but can (and should) still respect Inzi. So many on here disagree with a decision he makes and start calling for his head which is ridiculous. That is not how the world works.

We are lucky to have Inzi as CS.

 

[Rayyman]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Inzi is one of the best CS Pakistan has ever had.

Many don't realise how difficult a job it is. Being CS does not mean just looking at stats. There is something called having an eye for talent.

Many also need to realise you can criticise/disagree with individual decisions he makes but can (and should) still respect Inzi. So many on here disagree with a decision he makes and start calling for his head which is ridiculous. That is not how the world works.

We are lucky to have Inzi as CS.

The same guy who selected Shan Masood, Kamran Akmal, Umar Gul, Bilal Asif, Asif Zakir, Zulfiqar Babar, Iftikhar Ahmed, Rahat Ali, and Imran Khan Jr.

Thank you Inzi

 

[mak36]

The same guy who selected Shan Masood, Kamran Akmal, Umar Gul, Bilal Asif, Asif Zakir, Zulfiqar Babar, Iftikhar Ahmed, Rahat Ali, and Imran Khan Jr.

Thank you Inzi

Re-read this part:

Many also need to realise you can criticise/disagree with individual decisions he makes but can (and should) still respect Inzi. So many on here disagree with a decision he makes and start calling for his head which is ridiculous. That is not how the world works.

 

[mak36]

For the record, Gul, Zulfi, Iftikhar, Rahat and Imran Khan Jr were right at the beginning of his tenure. It takes time to make changes.

As for Kamran Akmal, I didn't agree with his selction but I can see why he did it. Pakistan desperately needed an aggressive opener having just lost Sharjeel,with an ICC event around the corner. Kami had also just taken PSL 2 by storm.

Bilal Asif was selected because Pakistan need an off-spinner for tests, and they don't want to go back to the TTF that is Hafeez.

What is wrong with Asif Zakir's selection? That was based on merit.

From the current teams, Inzi can and should be criticised for the selection of (i) Masood (ii) Hafeez (iii) Shehzad and even (iv) Imad but the even then (ii) and (iv) are debatable.

Let's not forget he chose the squad for the Champions Trophy, and is also responsible for the selections of Fakhar, Shadab, Fahim, Rumman, Hasan Ali, Haris Sohail etc.

 

[New Yorker]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Inzi is one of the best CS Pakistan has ever had.

Many don't realise how difficult a job it is. Being CS does not mean just looking at stats. There is something called having an eye for talent.

Many also need to realise you can criticise/disagree with individual decisions he makes but can (and should) still respect Inzi. So many on here disagree with a decision he makes and start calling for his head which is ridiculous. That is not how the world works.

We are lucky to have Inzi as CS.

There is little evidence that Inzi has a special eye for talent. Shehzad, and Shan were glaring mistakes; in the wake of the UAE debacle, Fawad Alam remains a glaring oversight. Players like Hasan and Rumman were topping the charts in domestic competitions and selected themselves. In so far as he has done well, it has been precisely by following the stats. Imam is the only exception so far; we will see how far he goes.

 

[shaz619]

He has made some good selections but some of his selections have been absolutely dreadful. Maybe in hindsight that comment was OTT from myself but calling him the greatest selector is an OTT comment.

Also never said Imam was rubbish, thought he was more of a test player.

Who are your top 2 or 3 best selectors ever in Pakistan and why?

 

[mak36]

There is little evidence that Inzi has a special eye for talent. Shehzad, and Shan were glaring mistakes; in the wake of the UAE debacle, Fawad Alam remains a glaring oversight. Players like Hasan and Rumman were topping the charts in domestic competitions and selected themselves. In so far as he has done well, it has been precisely by following the stats. Imam is the only exception so far; we will see how far he goes.

Like I said earlier in this thread, the job of chief selector looks easy when things are going well.

The reality is quite different.

If it was as simple as looking at stats why were there so many complaints about Haroon Rasheed? All he did was look as spreadsheets and we saw how well that worked.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

It's important to mention Imam's U 19 record because that's what his selection is based on; he's been in awful domestic LA forms. But If U 19 performance alone is the basis for selection then Sami Aslam is ahead of him. If one takes into consideration performance in more advanced levels, Sami Aslam is ahead of him by more. But more to the point, if Imam's kindergarten knocks get to count, why are we only counting Sahibzada's last 9 List A games? If we take into account also Sahibzada's U 19 record then he is clearly already a seasoned campaigner. If take into account performance in domestic one days then Imam is behind Aslam, Amin, Haris, Sahibzada, to name but a few of the more promising young or youngish talents. This apart from considering the possibility of using a player who is already established in the one day set up, like Shadab, or Faheem, as a pinch hitter.

also, hard to argue that ave 36 sr 74 is a no-doubter

Out of all the names you've mentioned only Sahibzada stands out as a direct competitor to Imam. Then you have to factor in the type of player being replaced in the squad. Imam is more similar in mould to Azhar than Sahibzada is and hence, was rewarded with a place in the squad.

Yes, Inzamam is far from perfect but Imam's selection is also not the travesty you are making it out to be. Sahibzada's 41 average after 9 List A games is not substantially better than what Imam has achieved so far in his own List A career. When you have players of similar output and experience, you need to take into consideration other factors; such as squad composition, technique, etc.

 

[Red Devil]

The same guy who selected Shan Masood, Kamran Akmal, Umar Gul, Bilal Asif, Asif Zakir, Zulfiqar Babar, Iftikhar Ahmed, Rahat Ali, and Imran Khan Jr.

Thank you Inzi

Yeah and they got dropped as well. Everyone deserves a chance when they perform well in domestic cricket.

 

[Bilal7]

The same guy who selected Shan Masood, Kamran Akmal, Umar Gul, Bilal Asif, Asif Zakir, Zulfiqar Babar, Iftikhar Ahmed, Rahat Ali, and Imran Khan Jr.

Thank you Inzi

Yes, because Inzamam should only select players you like. Those guys deserved their selection but given their poor returns at the international level were also dropped.

Our ODI team for the next series might be:

1) Imam
2) Fakhar
3) Babar
4) Haris
5) Malik (new and improved)
6) Sarfaraz (appointed captain on the recommendation of Inzamam)
7) Imad/Faheem
8) Amir
9) Shadab
10) Hassan
11) Junaid/Raees

Not a single TTF or undeserving player in the whole team, or in fact, the whole squad of 15 given that Shehzad (poor performances) and Hafeez (chucking allegations) will be dropped for good. We also just won the ICC Champions Trophy and have been bowling better than anyone else over the last few months.

With all due credit to everyone else, Inzamam ul Haq has been one of the main, if not the biggest, reason(s) for this.

Thank you Inzi, indeed.

 

[Bilal7]

Imam's hundred against Lanka proves that Imam scored a hundred against Lanka. His domestic record didn't change, and remains mediocre to poor. He could have been out three or four times in his innings and if he had it also would not have changed the verdict on Inzi's selection. The fact is there are players who warrant selection over Imam, and these players are more likely than him to do well over the long term. The correlation between LA domestic stats and ODI performance is quite good. Let's revisit this thread 20 ODIs from now.

Once again, if all the CS had to do was look at domestic stats and select the players at the top of the tables, you and I would be in Inzamam's position instead. Unfortunately for us, the job of chief selector involves much more than this. The ability to judge a young player's potential being paramount amongst them. You ask me to come back to this thread in 20 ODIs yet insist that Sahibzada should have been selected over Imam. Strange.

He has made some good selections but some of his selections have been absolutely dreadful. Maybe in hindsight that comment was OTT from myself but calling him the greatest selector is an OTT comment.

Also never said Imam was rubbish, thought he was more of a test player.

No, it is not OTT because Inzamam is the best chief selector we have ever had. Barring the selectors from Imran Khan's era, who were there to just do as the great man said, which other chief selector has even come close to Inzamam's performance? Which other selector has thrown out the trash and blooded in young and deserving players into the team and ensured a smoother transition as effectively as Inzamam has? He has done this while also being the man behind selecting a Champions Trophy winning squad.

Don't hide away now, please do tell me who is Pakistan's greatest chief selector if not Inzamam?

 

[Hasan123]

Once again, if all the CS had to do was look at domestic stats and select the players at the top of the tables, you and I would be in Inzamam's position instead. Unfortunately for us, the job of chief selector involves much more than this. The ability to judge a young player's potential being paramount amongst them. You ask me to come back to this thread in 20 ODIs yet insist that Sahibzada should have been selected over Imam. Strange.



No, it is not OTT because Inzamam is the best chief selector we have ever had. Barring the selectors from Imran Khan's era, who were there to just do as the great man said, which other chief selector has even come close to Inzamam's performance? Which other selector has thrown out the trash and blooded in young and deserving players into the team and ensured a smoother transition as effectively as Inzamam has? He has done this while also being the man behind selecting a Champions Trophy winning squad.

Don't hide away now, please do tell me who is Pakistan's greatest chief selector if not Inzamam?

I don't know who is our best selector of all time because I can't remember everyone of our selectors during my period of watching cricket.

 

[Hamza_]

Imam is a bad selection.

Sahibzada should have been selected.

 

[kingusama92]

Imam is a bad selection.

Sahibzada should have been selected.

On what basis?

9 List A matches?

Imam has played U19s, U23s, and domestic cricket.

 

[StreetSmart]

I am sorry to say but few posters here are really either kids or just don't have the knowledge yes I admit Fawad should be selected ONLY FOR TEST but on the other hand, his selection for ODI is awesome. Yes, our test squad is struggling and that was pretty much what I expected after Youni and Misbah`s retirement. We are missing middle order in test matches who can play long innings like Younis and Misbah. Our ODI squad is perfect there are only two pathetic crickets attached to our squad somehow and they are Shezzy and Wahab other than that everyone is perfect. Those who are talking about his first-class avg should see how many matches he has played. For few posters here " YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF CRICKET" Inzi is doing a good job at the moment.

 

[mak36]

On what basis?

9 List A matches?

Imam has played U19s, U23s, and domestic cricket.

To be fair, that is a pretty weak argument.

If you did some research, you would know Sahibzada played in various PCB organised junior tournaments over the last few years so it's not like he is a completely unknown entity. Plus he has done reasonably well in the QeA over the last couple of years.

The biggest thing holding Sahibzada back isn't his inexperience but his static feet. He primarily relies on hand/eye co-ordination and his static feet will get him into trouble against the moving ball.

 

[Bilal7]

I don't know who is our best selector of all time because I can't remember everyone of our selectors during my period of watching cricket.

Inzamam has made sure you'll remember him forever after. He's the best.

To be fair, that is a pretty weak argument.

If you did some research, you would know Sahibzada played in various PCB organised junior tournaments over the last few years so it's not like he is a completely unknown entity. Plus he has done reasonably well in the QeA over the last couple of years.

The biggest thing holding Sahibzada back isn't his inexperience but his static feet. He primarily relies on hand/eye co-ordination and his static feet will get him into trouble against the moving ball.

This is a good argument.

 

[Hamza_]

Yes and ball swings miles these days in LOIs?

 

[Bilal7]

Yes and ball swings miles these days in LOIs?

Then go ahead and bring Afridi back as an opener.

 

[mak36]

Yes and ball swings miles these days in LOIs?

It doesn't need to swing a mile. Natural variation off the pitch is already causing him issue, especially if it is pitched just wide of off stump. Don't believe me? I will give you two examples:

1. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gAKES_B4YDk?start=222" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is from his century in the One Day Cup Final. Take a look at the shot between 3.42 and 4.22. Had there been a proper keeper/1st slip he was a goner.

2. <blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still making the ball talk. Mohammad Asif's 8 wickets in WAPDA's current Quaid-e-Azam Trophy match against Peshawar <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QeATrophy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QeATrophy</a> <a href="https://t.co/lVUVDm1r9Z">pic.twitter.com/lVUVDm1r9Z</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/920327761620799488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Different format, same mistake. Only this time there is a slip and Sahibzada has to go for 8.

Take a look at my post history and you will see I have been one of the biggest supporters of Sahibzada. In my view he should be given a category D contract and the national coaching staff should be working him closely, with an eye to introducing him to the national team ASAP. However I will also point out any deficiencies and his difficulties with this channel + minimal movement will cause him issues.

This is especially true if he wants to play in the longer format (which he can with some improvements as I have explained in his "Talent Spotter" thread) but it is also relevant for the shorter format.

In terms of the national team, Inzi has said he wants players to perform for a full domestic season and then they will be considered:

"Whenever a player performs very well in a national tournament, we can’t take him to the national team very next day. We need to observe top performers for at least one year, and if they succeed in giving consistent performances, then they must be considered for the national team."

So far, Sahibzada has done pretty well in QeA, just as he did last year, but he needs to score at least one FC century to make an impression. After that, if he has a decent National T20 cup and PSL that should be enough evidence to convince Inzi. For video 2 the dismissal is between 0:33-0:40.

 

[Bilal7]

1) Usman Khan Shinwari has a mediocre debut.
2) Fickle fans deem him a failure.
3) CS Inzamam ul Haq selects Shinwari again.
4) Fickle fans rage.
5) Shinwari destroys Sri Lanka with masterful display of swing and seam bowling.
6) Fickle fans no where to be found.

 

[another drop catch]

just boot out shehzad ,hafeez and junaid
inzi will get more respect and applause

 

[Abdullah719]

With Fakhar injured and Rumman struggling, the squad has been exposed. The backup is non-existent.

 

[Syed1]

Selected Azhar, Malik and Hafeez... and then on top of that nepotistically selected his bhanja...


Not a single back-up pacer. Now if one of Amir/Hasan/Rumman is injured we would be left with playing alrounders.



Mashallah... but Alhumdulilah pak saaf niyat hai Inzi bhai

 

[BlueDoritos]

Should give a second chance to Sohaib Maqsood.

Sadaf Hussain deserves to be selected as well.

 

[paklvr_82]

Inzi pathetic plans exposed, NOT ONE Middle order player replacement selected in the squad. Every other performing player from no.6-11 has a replacement. Selected his nephew as a replacement for an opener. Really tired of seeing Haris Sohail name in the squad. If they don't want to give him a chance than they should remove him from the squad also. Shameful pathetic jokes dominate from no.3-no.5[Azam, Hafeez, Malik], meek mindset and even more pathetic attitude. Dont deserve to be even in the A team forget national side.

 

[Lefthanded]

Imam's international career so far: 100, 2, 45* and then replaced by Azhar. Fakhar gets injured and Imam replaced him to score 2 yesterday.

Was it nepotism that after 3 innings, he was replaced by Azhar?

He probably wouldn't even have played if Fakhar wasn't injured.

 

[Pete Rose]

Imam's international career so far: 100, 2, 45* and then replaced by Azhar. Fakhar gets injured and Imam replaced him to score 2 yesterday.

Was it nepotism that after 3 innings, he was replaced by Azhar?

He probably wouldn't even have played if Fakhar wasn't injured.

i would never accuse inzi of nepotism. but in this case its incompetence. imam list a strike rate is mid 70's.
and pretty much everyone knows that performance against sri lanka count for nothing consider the player they made look good for pakistan: afridi, hafeeez, malik

 

[MRSN]

Imam's international career so far: 100, 2, 45* and then replaced by Azhar. Fakhar gets injured and Imam replaced him to score 2 yesterday.

Was it nepotism that after 3 innings, he was replaced by Azhar?

He probably wouldn't even have played if Fakhar wasn't injured.

A series against this Sri Lankan side on UAE pitches is a dream start for any domestic cricketer so yes it was a nepotism selection especially when Imam was never in the radar for selection. It was out of the blue selection. He would never had made to ODIs if chief selector was not Inzi.

 

[MMHS]

Imam's international career so far: 100, 2, 45* and then replaced by Azhar. Fakhar gets injured and Imam replaced him to score 2 yesterday.

Was it nepotism that after 3 innings, he was replaced by Azhar?

He probably wouldn't even have played if Fakhar wasn't injured.

He didn't deserve to be called for ODI team at first - that's nepotism. Kid for entire career as top 3, had a List A SR of 75 (average around 35), and he had 1 Six in 24 innings before cashing on a poor SRL side.

 

[Markhor]

As I said in another thread, nepotism is meant to help someone.

Inzamam is ironically hurting his nephew's career by picking him in a format his game isn't suited to.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

The CT saved the careers of Azhar and Hafeez. Otherwise they would have been ousted a long time ago. Azhar also got injured at the right time before the ODI's against Lanka.

 

[paklvr_82]

With Inzi as selector I fear we might not see many new opening players being selected. Inzi the despot will play musical chairs with his nephew Imam and Ahmed Shehzad replacing them with each other.

Sahibzada Farhan, Mukhtar Ahmed and Sharjeel [completed his suspension] mite not be taken due to inzi bhai's nephew and neighbour. REally disappointed with Mickey Arthur who stresses so much on fitness but allows this nepotism and corruption going on by the selector.

 

[Lefthanded]

i would never accuse inzi of nepotism. but in this case its incompetence. imam list a strike rate is mid 70's.
and pretty much everyone knows that performance against sri lanka count for nothing consider the player they made look good for pakistan: afridi, hafeeez, malik

A series against this Sri Lankan side on UAE pitches is a dream start for any domestic cricketer so yes it was a nepotism selection especially when Imam was never in the radar for selection. It was out of the blue selection. He would never had made to ODIs if chief selector was not Inzi.

He didn't deserve to be called for ODI team at first - that's nepotism. Kid for entire career as top 3, had a List A SR of 75 (average around 35), and he had 1 Six in 24 innings before cashing on a poor SRL side.

Good points all round and I don't disagree.

From what I remembered, he batted with a 80 odd strike rate, which is not too different from how Azhar and sometimes even Babar often bat.

Maybe Imam isn't cut out of for batting at a higher strike rate, but I think consistency in selection is still important. Particularly when there's a debut hundred involved. As long as the opponent is at least a top 8 side.

He may not have earned his chance in ODIs, but now deserves one on merit.

With the next WC in May '19, it's getting a little too late to find an opener anyway, presuming Fakhar can score consistently at the other end.

If Imam fails to bat over 85, and score runs against top opposition, he should just don whites.

 

[Pete Rose]

Good points all round and I don't disagree.

From what I remembered, he batted with a 80 odd strike rate, which is not too different from how Azhar and sometimes even Babar often bat.

Maybe Imam isn't cut out of for batting at a higher strike rate, but I think consistency in selection is still important. Particularly when there's a debut hundred involved. As long as the opponent is at least a top 8 side.

He may not have earned his chance in ODIs, but now deserves one on merit.

With the next WC in May '19, it's getting a little too late to find an opener anyway, presuming Fakhar can score consistently at the other end.

If Imam fails to bat over 85, and score runs against top opposition, he should just don whites.

just to add. Pakistan played some useless under 23 asia cup type tournament before imam was selected for Pakistan...even there he was barely batting at 70. There are always questions of what to do with wrongly selected players, but as always pakistani selectors will leave these decisions till too late.

 

[Bilal7]

Lol at the same, old jokers talking about Inzi being "exposed". Blame the players, not one of whom have played to their potential. Babar Azam has what? 10 runs across two innings? Amir and Hassan have been below-par - compared to their usually high standards - and Malik, who was bossing it last year hasn't done much of note either.

Now I haven't watched a single ball of this series so I am not familiar with the conditions, match-situations, etc but seriously, stop blaming the Chief Selector for the failings of the players. These same players were superb over the last few months but Inzamam should have magically foreseen that they would go through a downturn in form?

Everyone selected in the squad deserved their place, perhaps with the exception of Hafeez, but even then, discarding the Professor without giving him a fair chance to prove himself as a specialist batsman would be unfair. For the last match, it is the responsibility of Sarfaraz and the coach to drop Hafeez and give the other players a chance.

Had the pleasure of meeting Inzamam here in Canada, a couple of days ago. This was after Pakistan had lost the first ODI and that, coupled with a flu made the big man seem a little stressed. This performance must have only made it worse.

 

[Bilal7]

With Inzi as selector I fear we might not see many new opening players being selected. Inzi the despot will play musical chairs with his nephew Imam and Ahmed Shehzad replacing them with each other.

Sahibzada Farhan, Mukhtar Ahmed and Sharjeel [completed his suspension] mite not be taken due to inzi bhai's nephew and neighbour. REally disappointed with Mickey Arthur who stresses so much on fitness but allows this nepotism and corruption going on by the selector.

How many matches has this Sahibzada of yours played? And are you kidding me by naming Mukhtar Ahmed? That guy was a massive flop and was not even considered good enough for the PSL. Sharjeel is a crook and yet you support him. Look in the mirror before calling out someone like Inzamam or Mickey for alleged "corruption"

If Inzamam's sole desire was to see his nephew succeed, he would have selected him in the test team ages ago.

 

[DRsohail]

Lol at the same, old jokers talking about Inzi being "exposed". Blame the players, not one of whom have played to their potential. Babar Azam has what? 10 runs across two innings? Amir and Hassan have been below-par - compared to their usually high standards - and Malik, who was bossing it last year hasn't done much of note either.

Now I haven't watched a single ball of this series so I am not familiar with the conditions, match-situations, etc but seriously, stop blaming the Chief Selector for the failings of the players. These same players were superb over the last few months but Inzamam should have magically foreseen that they would go through a downturn in form?

Everyone selected in the squad deserved their place, perhaps with the exception of Hafeez, but even then, discarding the Professor without giving him a fair chance to prove himself as a specialist batsman would be unfair. For the last match, it is the responsibility of Sarfaraz and the coach to drop Hafeez and give the other players a chance.

Had the pleasure of meeting Inzamam here in Canada, a couple of days ago. This was after Pakistan had lost the first ODI and that, coupled with a flu made the big man seem a little stressed. This performance must have only made it worse.

Imam deserved it??? he was wrong selection even for UAE so the problem started there,,,,HAFezz does not desere it bay any mean??/ whereis the 4th pacer??? where is back up wicket keeper,,,,AZhar desrved on the basis of his 50 in CT>>>????? if that the job of inzi then i am sure anyone on PP will do it so why waste money on him.....

 

[DRsohail]

How many matches has this Sahibzada of yours played? And are you kidding me by naming Mukhtar Ahmed? That guy was a massive flop and was not even considered good enough for the PSL. Sharjeel is a crook and yet you support him. Look in the mirror before calling out someone like Inzamam or Mickey for alleged "corruption"

If Inzamam's sole desire was to see his nephew succeed, he would have selected him in the test team ages ago.

Where is SAAD LAI>where is SAUD shakieel WEHERE is hussain TALAT??? come on yaar.....he should have given a chance to sahibazada against srilanaka.based on domestics i think shan masood deserved it more than his nephew .

 

[Bilal7]

Imam deserved it??? he was wrong selection even for UAE so the problem started there,,,,HAFezz does not desere it bay any mean??/ whereis the 4th pacer??? where is back up wicket keeper,,,,AZhar desrved on the basis of his 50 in CT>>>????? if that the job of inzi then i am sure anyone on PP will do it so why waste money on him.....

Where is SAAD LAI>where is SAUD shakieel WEHERE is hussain TALAT??? come on yaar.....he should have given a chance to sahibazada against srilanaka.based on domestics i think shan masood deserved it more than his nephew .

Why waste money on him?

You can even start questioning whether Amir, Shadab, Fahim, Fakhar and Rumman deserve their place in the side but the reality is that everyone selected did something or the other to warrant making the trip to New Zealand. We did not lose because we do not have the players to win an ODI against the Kiwis, we lost because our players have not performed as well as they can.

 

[Markhor]

Even with some of the flawed selections, this team shouldn't be losing to NZ by such heavy margins. I did predict a NZ win but I didn't think it'd be this easy. Twice we've won the toss and made the wrong decision.

Inzamam's two mistakes was recalling Azhar when we already had a "stabilising opener" in Azhar and not picking an explosive backup opener in case Zaman got injured. He allowed his CT performance to paper over the cracks in Azhar's game which is unsuited to modern ODI cricket.

The other mistake was selecting Hafeez as a specialist batsman. I know Hafeez scored a fifty in the last match but he consumed a lot of dots against Santner which put the other batsmen under pressure, despite his strength being facing spin. That being said, Inzamam did pick Haris Sohail as a spare batsman but the team management haven't picked him despite being a better player of pace.

I'm not going slaughter him about the bowling selections as our bowling has been very successful recently and we were unlucky with injuries to Junaid and Shinwari. The batting is a bigger concern, we're badly outmatched in powerhitting by NZ.

 

[DRsohail]

Why waste money on him?

You can even start questioning whether Amir, Shadab, Fahim, Fakhar and Rumman deserve their place in the side but the reality is that everyone selected did something or the other to warrant making the trip to New Zealand. We did not lose because we do not have the players to win an ODI against the Kiwis, we lost because our players have not performed as well as they can.

yes we selected a garbage squad base on performance against a non existing 11 living things on field gew months ago..i am sure farhan or any one would have doesne well in that series if imam was selected here based on UAE performances.but before that he had legendry states of 35/75 which speaks everything.Even masood has 50?75 states.

 

[Bilal7]

yes we selected a garbage squad base on performance against a non existing 11 living things on field gew months ago..i am sure farhan or any one would have doesne well in that series if imam was selected here based on UAE performances.but before that he had legendry states of 35/75 which speaks everything.Even masood has 50?75 states.

Unfortunately for you, performances on the field matter much more than the fantasies and delusions of fans. Imam had an international century behind him before coming here (even then, he is not the first choice opening partner for Azhar, Fakhar is), Sahibzada did not.

Wonder why all the outrage is being reserved for Imam, who did not even play in the last game and probably has more runs in this series than Babar. When the stars are failing, why are you blaming the bench?

 

[Hasan123]

The revolutionary has left us with no back up for our seamers, Imam and Azhar as openers in 2018, the continued selection of the professer, and no back up for Sarfraz.

A very poor squad selected. Hope he doesn't do as bad in the T20s.

 

[CricFan2012]

Unfortunately for you, performances on the field matter much more than the fantasies and delusions of fans. Imam had an international century behind him before coming here (even then, he is not the first choice opening partner for Azhar, Fakhar is), Sahibzada did not.

Wonder why all the outrage is being reserved for Imam, who did not even play in the last game and probably has more runs in this series than Babar. When the stars are failing, why are you blaming the bench?

Outrage is there because he should not have been selected yet, had mediocre stats and is a batsman in azhar and shehzad mould, we need bashers like Hales, Warners and Roys, not accumulators

 

[boomboom6]

It's high time Inzi realizes that Azhar is just not good enough for ODIs and needs to be axed completely. Hafeez needs to be shown the door.

We need to find 2 more explosive openers, recall Umar Akmal as back up for Malik. We need to play good players of pace in the top order. That is the main issue with us.

Sharjeel had solved part of the issue before he got banned, and then we were fortunate enough to have Fakhar. But we are still lacking another dasher at the top since Sharjeel is banned.

And time for Haris to be inducted into playing XI for ODIs. He outperformed Azhar & Shafiq in the test series vs SL despite a long lay off from the game and being a debutant. He looked a class apart.

It is simple. Play the batsmen who can take on fast bowlers and you will automatically see improved output. It is really unfortunate we lost Sharjeel just when he was taking off after a strong tour of Australia!

 

[Abdullah719]

I'm not going slaughter him about the bowling selections as our bowling has been very successful recently and we were unlucky with injuries to Junaid and Shinwari. The batting is a bigger concern, we're badly outmatched in powerhitting by NZ.

OK, Junaid and Shinwari are injured. But the selectors have to show a little bit of innovation, at least. If picking Yamin as a fast-bowler is the best that they can do, it's nowhere near good enough.

Rumman appears to be struggling with form and/or injury.

The only backup pacer is Yamin, who is not really a pacer.

What kind of selection is this for New Zealand? Are Sarfaraz and Arthur expected to play Nawaz as a specialist bowler?

This squad does not give any room for manoeuvre, at all.

 

[Bilal7]

OK, Junaid and Shinwari are injured. But the selectors have to show a little bit of innovation, at least. If picking Yamin as a fast-bowler is the best that they can do, it's nowhere near good enough.

Rumman appears to be struggling with form and/or injury.

The only backup pacer is Yamin, who is not really a pacer.

What kind of selection is this for New Zealand? Are Sarfaraz and Arthur expected to play Nawaz as a specialist bowler?

This squad does not give any room for manoeuvre, at all.

Amir, Hasan, Rumman, Fahim and Yamin is enough fast bowling for three ODIs in New Zealand. You don't replace the entire attack after each game and no one is getting injured bowling a combined 30 overs in a series. Why would you play Nawaz until and unless Shadab has a shocker?

 

[Abdullah719]

Amir, Hasan, Rumman, Fahim and Yamin is enough fast bowling for three ODIs in New Zealand. You don't replace the entire attack after each game and no one is getting injured bowling a combined 30 overs in a series. Why would you play Nawaz until and unless Shadab has a shocker?

We have five ODIs against NZ, not three.

Amir and Hasan are fine.

Faheem is an all-rounder.

In New Zealand, you're going to play three frontline pacers. Rumman is struggling and no one rates Yamin as a proper fast-bowler. But one of these two has to play, and that's why the squad has failed.

Nawaz is mediocre, has not done anything of note recently so his selection doesn't make sense anyway. What I meant was, that if Rumman is dropped and they don't consider Yamin a proper bowler, the only option left is Nawaz, who himself is not a proper bowler!

Shinwari and Junaid are injured, and that makes things tough for the selectors. But that's the whole point of a selection committee, they're supposed to provide a squad that covers all the bases. This squad fails that litmus test.

 

[Bilal7]

We have five ODIs against NZ, not three.

Amir and Hasan are fine.

Faheem is an all-rounder.

In New Zealand, you're going to play three frontline pacers. Rumman is struggling and no one rates Yamin as a proper fast-bowler. But one of these two has to play, and that's why the squad has failed.

Nawaz is mediocre, has not done anything of note recently so his selection doesn't make sense anyway. What I meant was, that if Rumman is dropped and they don't consider Yamin a proper bowler, the only option left is Nawaz, who himself is not a proper bowler!

Shinwari and Junaid are injured, and that makes things tough for the selectors. But that's the whole point of a selection committee, they're supposed to provide a squad that covers all the bases. This squad fails that litmus test.

Oh. Then it's definitely a problem and the criticism is valid. I actually find it a little hard to believe that we only have three specialist seamers in the squad. However, let's see how the rest of the series pans out. If it is a five match series then this team can definitely bounce back.

 

[DRsohail]

Unfortunately for you, performances on the field matter much more than the fantasies and delusions of fans. Imam had an international century behind him before coming here (even then, he is not the first choice opening partner for Azhar, Fakhar is), Sahibzada did not.

Wonder why all the outrage is being reserved for Imam, who did not even play in the last game and probably has more runs in this series than Babar. When the stars are failing, why are you blaming the bench?

yaar you are right he did score but on what basis he got selected he is not suited for modern odi game and u know it.probelm can be solved if u try to solve it but here inzi want to treat cardiac patient by dialysis.imam is not the answer at least he should have started to solve the problem which is a sanil paced batting line up.

 

[DRsohail]

We have five ODIs against NZ, not three.

Amir and Hasan are fine.

Faheem is an all-rounder.

In New Zealand, you're going to play three frontline pacers. Rumman is struggling and no one rates Yamin as a proper fast-bowler. But one of these two has to play, and that's why the squad has failed.

Nawaz is mediocre, has not done anything of note recently so his selection doesn't make sense anyway. What I meant was, that if Rumman is dropped and they don't consider Yamin a proper bowler, the only option left is Nawaz, who himself is not a proper bowler!

Shinwari and Junaid are injured, and that makes things tough for the selectors. But that's the whole point of a selection committee, they're supposed to provide a squad that covers all the bases. This squad fails that litmus test.

welldone.That what for which inzi is taking money.he is not here to do press conference or go to UAE>

 

[MMHS]

Good points all round and I don't disagree.

From what I remembered, he batted with a 80 odd strike rate, which is not too different from how Azhar and sometimes even Babar often bat.

Maybe Imam isn't cut out of for batting at a higher strike rate, but I think consistency in selection is still important. Particularly when there's a debut hundred involved. As long as the opponent is at least a top 8 side.

He may not have earned his chance in ODIs, but now deserves one on merit.

With the next WC in May '19, it's getting a little too late to find an opener anyway, presuming Fakhar can score consistently at the other end.

If Imam fails to bat over 85, and score runs against top opposition, he should just don whites.

You know, what's the flaw of that selection? Excluding Sharjeel, still there are at least 4/5 openers in PAK - Azhar, FZ, Amin, Shehzad was around that time, MoHa has opened most times, even Babar can open, Sarfu has opened few times successfully as well - still Ul Haq picked the kid, because the huge man is Chachu as well. What exposes him is that Sarfraz & Malik are only 2 players in his squad for No. 5/6 - and Talat is bashing domestic bowlers in PAK ........

I have nothing personal against the man, one of my all time favorites. BUT, he is extremely loyalist, self-centered and biased to own people to the level of corruption.

 

[paklvr_82]

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION]

How can u call someone crook who was convicted by a board had to amend their tribunal in middle of trial in order to protect themselves from subpoenas rofl.
Rofl u speaking without even basic sense, google Farhan and Mukhtar Ahmed they are better than your flop corrupt selector Inzamam who has selected zero players from outside PSL. Check how many chances Inzamam gave to Ahmed Shehzad that weer accorded to Mukhtar or any other player.
Imam was dropped twice before he made that 'international hundred' and averaged 36, when Inzamam chose his nephew there were around 4 youngsters in domestic circuit that 40-50 and many more awho averaged higher than his nephew.
If Inzamam would have had his way convicted jailed player Salman Butt and Karman Akmal would be in the team. This inzamam sent unfit Umar Akmal for Champions Trophy only to be embarassed as Akmal was returned by the coach after failing fitness test.
Inzamam is the reason there is not one replacement for any batsman, he is being paid for selecting his nephew , an Akmal [Babar Azam], Hafeez and Malik
Complete nonsense this guy is spewing.

 

[Lefthanded]

You know, what's the flaw of that selection? Excluding Sharjeel, still there are at least 4/5 openers in PAK - Azhar, FZ, Amin, Shehzad was around that time, MoHa has opened most times, even Babar can open, Sarfu has opened few times successfully as well - still Ul Haq picked the kid, because the huge man is Chachu as well. What exposes him is that Sarfraz & Malik are only 2 players in his squad for No. 5/6 - and Talat is bashing domestic bowlers in PAK ........

I have nothing personal against the man, one of my all time favorites. BUT, he is extremely loyalist, self-centered and biased to own people to the level of corruption.

Fair enough, but whether or not this significantly premature judging of Imam ends up being self-evident, the guy hasn't done badly in his four games at all.