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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India’s ruling BJP workers in Assam say: “We are staging a protest against Chinese Prime Minister Kim Jong” <a href="https://t.co/OgFFncBCrI">pic.twitter.com/OgFFncBCrI</a></p>— Uzair Hasan Rizvi (@RizviUzair) <a href="https://twitter.com/RizviUzair/status/1273565603685531648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
What else did you expect from them when their ring leader exhibits same illiteracy?
 
From

"Why isn't Modi doing anything, Chinese are sitting on our land"

To

"This is all Modi's fault, why didn't he stop the Indian army from confronting the Chinese for peacefully occupying our land"

:salute to the Hypocrites.

Modi has failed badly- the posturing and false propaganda have totally failed. All your neighbours hate you, you have no moral high ground. Modi has done in a few years what PK could never do, its made Ind a failed state.
 
Modi has failed badly- the posturing and false propaganda have totally failed. All your neighbours hate you, you have no moral high ground. Modi has done in a few years what PK could never do, its made Ind a failed state.

You can wish for whatever you want. Doesn't make it a reality.

We don't care if all our neighbors keep selling themselves off in their hatred of us. Only time will make them realise of the trap that they're falling into. But I'm afraid, it'd be too late.

Cheers.
 
You can wish for whatever you want. Doesn't make it a reality.

We don't care if all our neighbors keep selling themselves off in their hatred of us. Only time will make them realise of the trap that they're falling into. But I'm afraid, it'd be too late.

Cheers.

It is reality, just open your eyes. You can only live on hate for so long, and Modis time is up.
 
You can wish for whatever you want. Doesn't make it a reality.

We don't care if all our neighbors keep selling themselves off in their hatred of us. Only time will make them realise of the trap that they're falling into. But I'm afraid, it'd be too late.

Cheers.

Yeah, just stop killing unarmed Kashmiri people.

Until then your crocodile tears ain't fooling any neighbor.

Hatred is precisely what your oppressor nation deserves.

Reality is the Chinese own so called Indian territory, miles and miles of it.
 
You can wish for whatever you want. Doesn't make it a reality.

We don't care if all our neighbors keep selling themselves off in their hatred of us. Only time will make them realise of the trap that they're falling into. But I'm afraid, it'd be too late.

Cheers.

That you are describing what were once your own people as neighbours, and that they are celebrating every Chinese blow landed should be cause for some introspection on your part actually. India shrunk in 1947, now it's being whittled away by the People's Republic of China.
 
That you are describing what were once your own people as neighbours, and that they are celebrating every Chinese blow landed should be cause for some introspection on your part actually. India shrunk in 1947, now it's being whittled away by the People's Republic of China.

India shrunk in 1947 because a certain group (Not religion because we got the numbers) thought they couldn’t co exist and 24 years also couldn’t do exist among themselves.

Now coming to China, India will fight or if they can’t they will try and de escalate it just like any sovereign country does. One thing be assured, we will not sell our country to China for pennies on the $ like some others.

Anyway what was the point your making, because I would expect someone from Britain to enlighten me with Brit pop culture and other fascinating Brit stuff but you seem to be re arranging the same words in every other post :))

Maybe we should do a Modi-Amit Shah and check for your British credentials lol because this western thing looks more and more like a gimmick each passing day.
 
India shrunk in 1947 because a certain group (Not religion because we got the numbers) thought they couldn’t co exist and 24 years also couldn’t do exist among themselves.

Now coming to China, India will fight or if they can’t they will try and de escalate it just like any sovereign country does. One thing be assured, we will not sell our country to China for pennies on the $ like some others.

Anyway what was the point your making, because I would expect someone from Britain to enlighten me with Brit pop culture and other fascinating Brit stuff but you seem to be re arranging the same words in every other post :))

Maybe we should do a Modi-Amit Shah and check for your British credentials lol because this western thing looks more and more like a gimmick each passing day.

Don't you find it somewhat embarrassing that the Mughals and the Brits that followed them managed to unite India, and make it whole, yet left to their own devices, the Hindutva movement managed to carve up whole chunks of it, and now they support China instead of being there alongside you in the war? Which front must India watch, the one to the west, or the one to the east?

Let's just hope Bangladesh doesn't decide China is the more important partner and wade in on their side as well.
 
You can wish for whatever you want. Doesn't make it a reality.

We don't care if all our neighbors keep selling themselves off in their hatred of us. Only time will make them realise of the trap that they're falling into. But I'm afraid, it'd be too late.

Cheers.
Speak for yourself only. Thanks. :inti
 
Let's just hope Bangladesh doesn't decide China is the more important partner and wade in on their side as well.

Apparently that is in the works too. The schism probably won't occur while Sheikh Hasina is in power, but the Chinese are wooing the Bangladeshis aggressively, who are also upset at the CAA and the impact it has on Bengali immigrants, legal or otherwise.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Northeast Media reports that huge chunk of Indian land in Arunachal Pradesh has been occupied by the Chinese forces! <a href="https://t.co/2GOK2fVJR6">https://t.co/2GOK2fVJR6</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1273584244606955523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not sure if News18 is credible but this seems like big news. The Indian government should come out and deny this if it's wrong/fake.
 
That you are describing what were once your own people as neighbours, and that they are celebrating every Chinese blow landed should be cause for some introspection on your part actually. India shrunk in 1947, now it's being whittled away by the People's Republic of China.

A country which has good relations with most of it's immediate neighbours will always be liked by them . Every nation has at least one or two enemies but when you have 5-6 of them then that's a problem. Acting like bullies, banning trades, threatening are signs of a narrow minded and third world country. We should learn from Canada and USA. :inti
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Northeast Media reports that huge chunk of Indian land in Arunachal Pradesh has been occupied by the Chinese forces! <a href="https://t.co/2GOK2fVJR6">https://t.co/2GOK2fVJR6</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1273584244606955523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not sure if News18 is credible but this seems like big news. The Indian government should come out and deny this if it's wrong/fake.

At the moment we can only fight them through our news channels like Times Now, Zee News and Republic. All this fake bravado by bhakhts and their guru ji has embarrassed India a lot.
 
You can wish for whatever you want. Doesn't make it a reality.

We don't care if all our neighbors keep selling themselves off in their hatred of us. Only time will make them realise of the trap that they're falling into. But I'm afraid, it'd be too late.

Cheers.

Here is a list of European ports where Chinese firms have considerable share

Chinese Enterprises Are Staking Their Claim On Ports
Together, COSCO Shipping Ports, China Merchants Port Holdings (CMPort) and Qingdao Port International Development (QPI) hold stakes in 16 ports spread across Europe and the Mediterranean. The Greek port of Piraeus, a major port in the region, is almost entirely within China’s hand with COSCO possessing full control of the Piraeus Container Terminal and majority control of Piraeus Port Authority.
Piraeus (Greece)
Piraeus Container Terminal
Zeebrugge (Bruges, Belgium)
CSP Zeebrugge Terminals NV
Valencia (Spain)
Noatum Container Terminal
Casablanca (Morocco)
Somaport
Dunkirk (France)
Terminal des Flandres
Vado Ligure (Genoa, Italy)
Vado Reefer Terminal
Bilbao (Spain)
Noatum Container Terminal
Rotterdam (Netherlands)
Euromax Terminal
Ambarli (Istanbul)
Kumport
Le Havre (France)
Terminal Nord, Terminal de France
Marsaxlokk (Malta)
Malta Freeport Terminal
Marseille Fos (Marseille, France)
Eurofos
Nantes (France)
Terminal du Grand Ouest
Antwerp (Belgium)
Antwerp Gateway
Port Said (Egypt)
Suez Canal Container Terminal
Tanger Med (Tangier, Morocco)
Eurogate Tanger
Source: https://www.npr.org/2018/10/09/6425...n-over-a-dozen-european-ports?t=1592488084950

And I know for a fact they own more stakes in more EU ports. This list is outdated.

I guess Europeans are selling themselves for pennies as well :)))

You and Joshila need to educate yourselves, China dominates world trade. Economy doesn't work on fascists' fEeLiNgS.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Chinese are EU's masters now as well eh? :facepalm:

PS: I also read somewhere that a Chinese firm got a massive Indian government contact over Indian firms in India :yk . I guess there is a wide wide world just outside your fascist hinduvta bubble. It starts right outside your keyboard's physical space :yk
 
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Here is a list of European ports where Chinese firms have considerable share



And I know for a fact they own more stakes in more EU ports. This list is outdated.

I guess Europeans are selling themselves for pennies as well :)))

You and Joshila need to educate yourselves, China dominates world trade. Economy doesn't work on fascists' fEeLiNgS.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Chinese are EU's masters now as well eh? :facepalm:

PS: I also read somewhere that a Chinese firm got a massive Indian government contact over Indian firms in India :yk . I guess there is a wide wide world just outside your fascist hinduvta bubble. It starts right outside your keyboard's physical space :yk
Wow you just buried him :yk


What's worse is that he was assisting you in digging up the grave and then you were like sikeeee

:ua
 
Here is a list of European ports where Chinese firms have considerable share



And I know for a fact they own more stakes in more EU ports. This list is outdated.

I guess Europeans are selling themselves for pennies as well :)))

You and Joshila need to educate yourselves, China dominates world trade. Economy doesn't work on fascists' fEeLiNgS.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Chinese are EU's masters now as well eh? :facepalm:

PS: I also read somewhere that a Chinese firm got a massive Indian government contact over Indian firms in India :yk . I guess there is a wide wide world just outside your fascist hinduvta bubble. It starts right outside your keyboard's physical space :yk

Chinese products and investors are everywhere in India. May be blind bhakht [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] is unware of this fact. :inti

India-China standoff: Flipkart, Paytm invite Twitterati's wrath over Chinese investment
Chinese investors have pumped in over $5 billion in the Indian startup ecosystem so far.

Home-grown firms such as Paytm, Flipkart, Zomato and Swiggy, which have investments from Chinese investors faced the ire of social media users following the death of at least 20 Indian soldiers in the Galwan Valley clash with Chinese troops.

People tweeted about boycotting the services of these apps under the hashtag ‘BoycottChineseProducts’. Some users, however, also suggested that the promoters should buy back the stakes of their Chinese investors given the escalating tension between the two countries.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/b...is-wrath-over-chinese-investment-5419351.html
 
Chinese products and investors are everywhere in India. May be blind bhakht [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] is unware of this fact. :inti

India-China standoff: Flipkart, Paytm invite Twitterati's wrath over Chinese investment
Chinese investors have pumped in over $5 billion in the Indian startup ecosystem so far.

Home-grown firms such as Paytm, Flipkart, Zomato and Swiggy, which have investments from Chinese investors faced the ire of social media users following the death of at least 20 Indian soldiers in the Galwan Valley clash with Chinese troops.

People tweeted about boycotting the services of these apps under the hashtag ‘BoycottChineseProducts’. Some users, however, also suggested that the promoters should buy back the stakes of their Chinese investors given the escalating tension between the two countries.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/b...is-wrath-over-chinese-investment-5419351.html

From the article:
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Chinese investors have pumped in over $5 billion in the Indian startup ecosystem so far.
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At this rate Pakistan should ask China whether they are our allies or India's :yk
 
From the article:
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Chinese investors have pumped in over $5 billion in the Indian startup ecosystem so far.
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At this rate Pakistan should ask China whether they are our allies or India's :yk

Yesterday I bought two basic things : one was a keyboard for my PC and the other one was garlic from a local vegetable vendor. Both of them were chinese. :inti
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Northeast Media reports that huge chunk of Indian land in Arunachal Pradesh has been occupied by the Chinese forces! <a href="https://t.co/2GOK2fVJR6">https://t.co/2GOK2fVJR6</a></p>— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1273584244606955523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not sure if News18 is credible but this seems like big news. The Indian government should come out and deny this if it's wrong/fake.

WHAT ? BARBARIC BEHAVIOUR !!!! I demand Mr. Modiji to NOT wish Happy Birthday the Chinese President next year aswell.
 
Yesterday I bought two basic things : one was a keyboard for my PC and the other one was garlic from a local vegetable vendor. Both of them were chinese. :inti

Here where I live even the honey is Chinese :yk

In Barcelona your average bar is Chinese owned. A while ago a reality TV show did a test and offered tapas/paella/patatas bravas (nothing more Spanish than that :yk ) to their participants from a Spanish owned and a Chinese bar, they couldn't tell the difference :yk some even preferred the Chinese food :yk


Europeans are smart. They are not stupid and petty nationalists like us (so far, at least :yk). Instead of fighting and miserably losing to then Japanese and now Chinese manufacturing powerhouse they adapted and improved their population's lives.

Pakistan should do the same. Imran Khan wants poverty to end in Pakistan. It ain't ending magically. Millions and millions of people can't improve their lives from one day to other. Pakistan gonna have to trade with major local economies (China/India etc.).
 
The Indian army says none of its soldiers is missing following the "violent face-off" with Chinese troops, according to a report by India's NDTV network.

Indian and Chinese army officers are reportedly holding talks to end the deadly standoff in the Himalayan region of Ladakh.

India is holding funerals for the 20 soldiers killed in the brawl with Chinese troops on Monday, the deadliest in decades.

The border tension with China has become Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's most serious foreign policy challenge since he took power in 2014.
 
Here is a list of European ports where Chinese firms have considerable share



And I know for a fact they own more stakes in more EU ports. This list is outdated.

I guess Europeans are selling themselves for pennies as well :)))

You and Joshila need to educate yourselves, China dominates world trade. Economy doesn't work on fascists' fEeLiNgS.

@<a href="http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/member.php?u=131701" target="_blank">Mamoon</a> Chinese are EU's masters now as well eh? :facepalm:

PS: I also read somewhere that a Chinese firm got a massive Indian government contact over Indian firms in India :yk . I guess there is a wide wide world just outside your fascist hinduvta bubble. It starts right outside your keyboard's physical space :yk

NVM Europe, China is building a whole Island in Sri Lanka. China also has another port in Sri Lanka.

 
The Indian army says none of its soldiers is missing following the "violent face-off" with Chinese troops, according to a report by India's NDTV network.

Indian and Chinese army officers are reportedly holding talks to end the deadly standoff in the Himalayan region of Ladakh.

India is holding funerals for the 20 soldiers killed in the brawl with Chinese troops on Monday, the deadliest in decades.

The border tension with China has become Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's most serious foreign policy challenge since he took power in 2014.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India rejects Pakistan's claim of Air Force jet being shot down, says all pilots accounted for: sources <a href="https://t.co/67imZpc5HF">pic.twitter.com/67imZpc5HF</a></p>— NDTV (@ndtv) <a href="https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1100656090805686272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Not going to lie it’s kind of sad reading the comments on the tweet I posted. A lot of Indians were jubilant and disparaging Pakistan in joy but all went silent after the Pak army recorded a whole documentary featuring Abhinandan lol.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Extraordinary details from <a href="https://twitter.com/vijaita?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vijaita</a> on the June 15 clash:<br>- India believes China planned two days prior<br>- Possible revenge attack for tent that was dismantled *two days before* <br>- PLA had blocked rivulets and released flood of water targeting Indian patrol<a href="https://t.co/CQrb6v8qqF">https://t.co/CQrb6v8qqF</a></p>— Ananth Krishnan (@ananthkrishnan) <a href="https://twitter.com/ananthkrishnan/status/1273639566046445568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Breaking</a><br>India to buy 12 Sukhoi and 21 MiG-29 under emergency purchase from Russia.<a href="https://twitter.com/manjeetnegilive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@manjeetnegilive</a> reports for <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndiaToday</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaChinaStandoff?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaChinaStandoff</a></p>— Geeta Mohan گیتا موہن गीता मोहन (@Geeta_Mohan) <a href="https://twitter.com/Geeta_Mohan/status/1273596255025786881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Breaking</a><br>India to buy 12 Sukhoi and 21 MiG-29 under emergency purchase from Russia.<a href="https://twitter.com/manjeetnegilive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@manjeetnegilive</a> reports for <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndiaToday</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaChinaStandoff?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaChinaStandoff</a></p>— Geeta Mohan گیتا موہن गीता मोहन (@Geeta_Mohan) <a href="https://twitter.com/Geeta_Mohan/status/1273596255025786881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

IAF coming into action?
 
You can wish for whatever you want. Doesn't make it a reality.

We don't care if all our neighbors keep selling themselves off in their hatred of us. Only time will make them realise of the trap that they're falling into. But I'm afraid, it'd be too late.

Cheers.

I dont like fun games at all, especially when Army is invovled. But my question is Chinese Army has captured Indian territory, why Indian Army and Govt hasn't done anything yet? Or why Indian Army is not taking back it's own territory?

I dont know the reasons, since you are Indian may be you can tell me some good reasons (not biased one btw) :)
 
Why only [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] is active on this thread?? Ammhh where are other Indian posters?
 
India shrunk in 1947 because a certain group (Not religion because we got the numbers) thought they couldn’t co exist and 24 years also couldn’t do exist among themselves.

Now coming to China, India will fight or if they can’t they will try and de escalate it just like any sovereign country does. One thing be assured, we will not sell our country to China for pennies on the $ like some others.

Anyway what was the point your making, because I would expect someone from Britain to enlighten me with Brit pop culture and other fascinating Brit stuff but you seem to be re arranging the same words in every other post :))

Maybe we should do a Modi-Amit Shah and check for your British credentials lol because this western thing looks more and more like a gimmick each passing day.

May i know when?? They have already captured your territory, when India is gonna fight back???
 
IAF coming into action?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Breaking</a><br>India to buy 12 Sukhoi and 21 MiG-29 under emergency purchase from Russia.<a href="https://twitter.com/manjeetnegilive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@manjeetnegilive</a> reports for <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndiaToday</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaChinaStandoff?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaChinaStandoff</a></p>— Geeta Mohan گیتا موہن गीता मोहन (@Geeta_Mohan) <a href="https://twitter.com/Geeta_Mohan/status/1273596255025786881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Total failure against Pakistan, afraid cant do anything against China.
 
Third round of military talks make headway: Indian media

Talks between Chinese and Indian generals in the Galwan Valley have made headway, sources told the Indian Express without elaborating.

Thursday's meeting was the third since deadly clashes late Monday into early Tuesday left 20 Indian soldiers dead. The newspaper reported that the talks have not yet lead to de-escalation at several face-off points along the border.

A fourth meeting is planned for Friday.
 
Total failure against Pakistan, afraid cant do anything against China.

These new toys are for Pakistan/Nepal etc. and not China.

If, God forbid, Chinese deploy their air force for India then I'm afraid it's game over.

Indians don't have capacity to engage Pakistan, China is a different beast.
 
When did US intelligence reported that no F16 was downed by IAF?

robbie robbie robbie:

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robbie robbie robbie:

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Do you trust US intelligence or it's as per your wish?
 
Do you trust US intelligence or it's as per your wish?

shes heavily anti pakistan and very pro indian, just type her name on youtube she has her own channel - and every video of hers is completely anti pakistan

and yet america sent thr main guy to count pakistan f-16 and found all of them - no f16 missing

Jaded - please prove you shot the f16 - picture please, remember all the so called down pieces of aircraft have already been proven not a f16
 
shes heavily anti pakistan and very pro indian, just type her name on youtube she has her own channel - and every video of hers is completely anti pakistan

and yet america sent thr main guy to count pakistan f-16 and found all of them - no f16 missing

Jaded - please prove you shot the f16 - picture please, remember all the so called down pieces of aircraft have already been proven not a f16

I don't have one post saying IAF shot down F16, now coming to question she is still American irrespective of her being Anti-Pakistan, American companies are her number 1 priority.

Now coming back to question do you believe in US intelligence or it will change as desire.
 
Below daily mail article states that indians were beaten with these wooden rods with long nails - which caused the deaths:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-mutilated-beaten-death-Chinese-soldiers.html

Those are savage, wood being heavy enough to impact the nails at least 70% into the body.

Not sure why they dont use guns, if you're going to kill it wont be an issue with guns but with such weapons it's comes across as barbaric way of combat. But India cannot be trusted, so not sure if this is true.
 
I don't have one post saying IAF shot down F16, now coming to question she is still American irrespective of her being Anti-Pakistan, American companies are her number 1 priority.

Now coming back to question do you believe in US intelligence or it will change as desire.

i believe in the evidence shown from bth parties - Indians couldn't prove anything - but keep stating it- no news channel / media has yet changed thr stance on the matter
 
I agree with the Kashmiri lady below. Compared to electrocuting genitals and eyelids, these were a merciful enough deaths.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Thuggery, not soldiering”<br>Civilians in Kashmir forced to drink water from lavatory, electric shocks applied to chest, red hot iron rod on genitals, their private parts pulled with pliers. All is documented. Chinese are merciful by comparison. <a href="https://t.co/RXWw7da0Sf">https://t.co/RXWw7da0Sf</a> <a href="https://t.co/IGbnBzyONT">https://t.co/IGbnBzyONT</a></p>— Mir S (@Meenwhile) <a href="https://twitter.com/Meenwhile/status/1273494360038862849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
i believe in the evidence shown from bth parties - Indians couldn't prove anything - but keep stating it- no news channel / media has yet changed thr stance on the matter

Noted. Only India is talking about its losses here no other media incl Chinese. So am guessing when India is talking about its losses, its either correct or under reported.. but if it talks about its "wins" it would depend upon neutral sources like Chinese to confirm as well ,got it thanks.
 
Those are savage, wood being heavy enough to impact the nails at least 70% into the body.

Not sure why they dont use guns, if you're going to kill it wont be an issue with guns but with such weapons it's comes across as barbaric way of combat. But India cannot be trusted, so not sure if this is true.

basically found that in around mid90's indian and china signed a treaty stating in this zone neither can use any guns or hunt with them : - ive seen the same response on thr news channel - blaming sonia ghandi:

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Noted. Only India is talking about its losses here no other media incl Chinese. So am guessing when India is talking about its losses, its either correct or under reported.. but if it talks about its "wins" it would depend upon neutral sources like Chinese to confirm as well ,got it thanks.

when did you win- u got battered by us last yr and Nepal last week and now china.

no one can find any news on china troops deaths - i do believe that some have died and injured - but again if india has claimed this - prove it
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OnePlus, a China-based smartphone maker, saw its latest model sold off within minutes in India, despite growing calls for boycott of Chinese goods <a href="https://t.co/EFv8TE6UFc">https://t.co/EFv8TE6UFc</a></p>— Bloomberg (@business) <a href="https://twitter.com/business/status/1273568395259248640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When is the boycott going to begin?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OnePlus, a China-based smartphone maker, saw its latest model sold off within minutes in India, despite growing calls for boycott of Chinese goods <a href="https://t.co/EFv8TE6UFc">https://t.co/EFv8TE6UFc</a></p>— Bloomberg (@business) <a href="https://twitter.com/business/status/1273568395259248640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When is the boycott going to begin?

damn- what a blow, but knew it was coming
 
when did you win- u got battered by us last yr and Nepal last week and now china.

no one can find any news on china troops deaths - i do believe that some have died and injured - but again if india has claimed this - prove it

Nepal killed a civilian and good to know India never won as per you since 1947.
 
basically found that in around mid90's indian and china signed a treaty stating in this zone neither can use any guns or hunt with them : - ive seen the same response on thr news channel - blaming sonia ghandi:

Everything is blamed on the Ghandi's with the BJP in charge.

But I agree this was a poor move for India. Chinese soldiers will make mince meat out of the Uncles in the Indian army. Strange India hasn't revoked this agreement but I guess Modi is waiting for Rahul to to do this.
 
Nepal killed a civilian and good to know India never won as per you since 1947.

never said india hasn't won since 1947- i said it never won against us last yr in feb , again nepal last week and china few days ago- all are claimed that india did more harm than the opposition by your media and government
 
Everything is blamed on the Ghandi's with the BJP in charge.

But I agree this was a poor move for India. Chinese soldiers will make mince meat out of the Uncles in the Indian army. Strange India hasn't revoked this agreement but I guess Modi is waiting for Rahul to to do this.

dont think modi knows anythings, even if he did - he wont change anything till something like this happens and them blame the ghandi's
 
I don't have one post saying IAF shot down F16, now coming to question she is still American irrespective of her being Anti-Pakistan, American companies are her number 1 priority.

Now coming back to question do you believe in US intelligence or it will change as desire.

She is American but has nothing to do with american companies. She is very against the military industrial complex. I don’t get why some Indians cannot get it that people in other countries do not blindly support their country narrative just because they belong to that country
 
She is American but has nothing to do with american companies. She is very against the military industrial complex. I don’t get why some Indians cannot get it that people in other countries do not blindly support their country narrative just because they belong to that country

I do and you do also, as its really ingrained by the Indians to think that way
 
She is American but has nothing to do with american companies. She is very against the military industrial complex. I don’t get why some Indians cannot get it that people in other countries do not blindly support their country narrative just because they belong to that country

Because this:

By C. Christine Fair
July 27, 2016

Why India Should Consider Lockheed Martin’s F-16 Offer

https://thediplomat.com/2016/07/why-india-should-consider-lockheed-martins-f-16-offer/
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Breaking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Breaking</a><br>India to buy 12 Sukhoi and 21 MiG-29 under emergency purchase from Russia.<a href="https://twitter.com/manjeetnegilive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@manjeetnegilive</a> reports for <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndiaToday</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaChinaStandoff?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaChinaStandoff</a></p>— Geeta Mohan گیتا موہن गीता मोहन (@Geeta_Mohan) <a href="https://twitter.com/Geeta_Mohan/status/1273596255025786881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Perfect just what we need, more Russian junk. I hope this is a purchase just to appease the Russians so if a full blown conflict with China happens, Russia stays neutral or side with the Indians. Well technicially they are treaty bound to back Indians in a War.
 
Christine Fair is one of the most sensible and insightful figures out there, if she says India didn't shoot down a Pakistani F-16, I would believe it.

I have been following her for a few years now.

She is extremely anti pakistani.

But even she said india did not shoot down a f16, she went further to say india lied about blowing up that building. She is convinced with the evidence that the building that india claims to have blown up and killed 350 terrorists in, was still standing and undamaged a couple of days after the alleged surgical strike.
 
Perfect just what we need, more Russian junk. I hope this is a purchase just to appease the Russians so if a full blown conflict with China happens, Russia stays neutral or side with the Indians. Well technicially they are treaty bound to back Indians in a War.

Have the Russians intervened on India's behalf ever?
 
I have been following her for a few years now.

She is extremely anti pakistani.

But even she said india did not shoot down a f16, she went further to say india lied about blowing up that building. She is convinced with the evidence that the building that india claims to have blown up and killed 350 terrorists in, was still standing and undamaged a couple of days after the alleged surgical strike.
Most sane people are anti-pak 😁
I just hope they differentiate between army and regular people
 
So apparently china just released 10 Indian soldiers they had in their custody after that incident including a few higher ranks...
 
Have the Russians intervened on India's behalf ever?

Yes if Russians didn't interfere, India would not have been able to liberate Bangladesh. Americans, Pakistanis and the UK were all going to attack India when Russia came to the neighborhood and told them to back off...
 
Most sane people are anti-pak &#55357;&#56833;
I just hope they differentiate between army and regular people

Sane people? Or biased people?

America, india etc... have blood on their hands, oppress people, bully, gave extremists within their population.

If you think objectively what moral superiority are they left with? They just have better PR.
 
But even she said india did not shoot down a f16, she went further to say india lied about blowing up that building. She is convinced with the evidence that the building that india claims to have blown up and killed 350 terrorists in, was still standing and undamaged a couple of days after the alleged surgical strike.

I have always said the Balakot strike's success was questionable, the building look practically the same after the supposed hit. I guess the Indians are saying the Israeli spice bomb would only damage the internals of a structure with the externals looking unaffected or something along those lines. I dont buy it, definitely some trees were casualties though... Then again at the end of the day, I could be wrong or correct so it is inconclusive..
 
I have always said the Balakot strike's success was questionable, the building look practically the same after the supposed hit. I guess the Indians are saying the Israeli spice bomb would only damage the internals of a structure with the externals looking unaffected or something along those lines. I dont buy it, definitely some trees were casualties though... Then again at the end of the day, I could be wrong or correct so it is inconclusive..

Christine fair touched on this too.

She said she is well versed with that weapons capabilities.

Apparently she said if it was a soft structure like the one targeted it would have been blown to bits. Those weapons would do what the indians said if it was a hardened structure like the Pentagon.
 
Christine fair touched on this too.

She said she is well versed with that weapons capabilities.

Apparently she said if it was a soft structure like the one targeted it would have been blown to bits. Those weapons would do what the indians said if it was a hardened structure like the Pentagon.

My gut feeling is that Abhinandan missed the target and he hit the trees, there might have been a few human casualties which could have been normal civilians along with the trees, not the folks Indians intended to hit.
 
My gut feeling is that Abhinandan missed the target and he hit the trees, there might have been a few human casualties which could have been normal civilians along with the trees, not the folks Indians intended to hit.

At the end of the day, it served neither side other than for bragging rights.

On India's side it was entirely politically motivated with no strategic objective really. Therefore even though it was a completely botched mission and pakistan came out on top, at the same time modi got what he wanted at home. He made losing a small battle part of a larger political victory.

I get the feeling he is doing that now with china.

If I am being objective, this is doing india more harm than good. Modi is prioritizing domestic politics over national security.

One thing I have to give my hats off to is BJPs control of their domestic media as well as internet warriors.

India continues to have a fairly free press compared to china, however pro government voice are so much louder than dissenting voices or alternative narratives that it sounds like the media is entirely controlled by the ruling party.

And it looks like they are redirecting some of the infrastructure set up for call centers previously as internet trolls. India's troll game is strong on social media.
 
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