Choke: Define in your own Words

[Aman]

Seriously M_G has disappeared )

 

[WNC]

The Saffer influence was bound to rub off on England sooner or later.

 

[saiyan0312]

saffer influence on england..., they needed their own players.

 

[ace58]

Maybe they did but its important to note the teams that win these type of major trophies never choke.

 

[Aman]

The Englishmen have all disappeared

 

[Indiafan]

The Saffer influence was bound to rub off on England sooner or later.

They never win important finals anyways

 

[Friend786]

England choked in CT 2004 in England and now in CT 2013 that too in England.

 

[saiyan0312]

choke is when you need 20 from 15 with ishant bowling under pressure after giving 8 runs in two balls and you have 6 wickets in hand and you still lose by 6 runs with only two wickets in hand.

 

[WebGuru]

England choked twice in Champions Trophy...

 

[OmaIR1]

choke is when you need 20 from 15 with ishant bowling under pressure after giving 8 runs in two balls and you have 6 wickets in hand and you still lose by 6 runs with only two wickets in hand.

No... you are wrong... apparently this is "quality" cricket and the England batsman were under enormous pressure by the Indians created pressure, this is not a choke as per freelance... rofl...

 

[BoycottNo1]

Choke = all matches played by Pakistan in CT

 

[Tusker]

When you need 20 from 16 with 6 wickets in the bag. Thats a choke

No thats not just a regular choke ... thats a short , sharp , quick but painless death by shooting yourselves in the proverbial "you know where" with a bazooka. I mean I dont recall Ishant Sharma talking two wickets over a Week ... never mind 2 balls in the same over same match. ***

 

[KB]

Aakash Chopra drawing on Malcolm Gladwell's work made an interesting analytical distinction between panicing and choking. I think England's capitulation today is evidence more of panic than choking using Chopra's analysis:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/508868.html

 

[ali bubba]

saffer influence on england..., they needed their own players.

No we were missing a saffa. Had KP been fit we may well have chased it down. He'd have taken it to the spinners. It might backfire but he'd have gone after them.

 

[Jo_Don]

No thats not just a regular choke ... thats a short , sharp , quick but painless death by shooting yourselves in the proverbial "you know where" with a bazooka. I mean I dont recall Ishant Sharma talking two wickets over a Week ... never mind 2 balls in the same over same match. ***

No, it's a choke plain and simple. With the match in the bag, they found a way to lose it.

 

[WebGuru]

It's getting funny now...

 

[Mamoon]

Seriously M_G has disappeared )

I can't post in every thread

 

[bin_pendi_ka_lota]

'Choking' is the act of over-analysing a simple problem, thereby falling out of the mental state of unconscious competence athletes call The Zone.

+1

 

[jeetu]

Choke - Manage to find defeat from the jaws of victory.
England had their third major Choke. 1987 WC , CT 2004 and now CT 2013. They should have have won all 3 finals.

 

[Gunther]

Choke is Buttler

Still can't get over that ugly heave against Jadeja. He should be sent back to domestic game to learn a thing or two about cricket.

Kieswetter/Davies/Bairstow as keeper for the limited overs. And stick with them until 2015.

 

[WebGuru]

Choke is Buttler

Still can't get over that ugly heave against Jadeja. He should be sent back to domestic game to learn a thing or two about cricket.

Kieswetter/Davies/Bairstow as keeper for the limited overs. And stick with them until 2015.

but TBH it was started by Morgan & Bopara...

 

[WebGuru]

 

[WebGuru]

11 runs required from 12 balls with 6 wickets in hand and see what SA did

 

[akamaka]

This has to be biggest choke ever , seriously )

 

[Dr_Bassim]

It doesn't get worse than this )

 

[amjad145]

My definition of choke is ..... South africa

 

[WebGuru]

This has to be biggest choke ever , seriously )

It doesn't get worse than this )

well well there are many to pick!

 

[amit]

south african team can define choke better than anyone out here

11 off 12 needed with 6 wickets in hand, still manage to lose by 1 run

 

[farazaidi]

time to update the choke count

who is winning? well nevermind

 

[Tusker]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2010/engine/current/match/463151.html

When Duminy got out they needed 70 runs in 25 overs ... and when smith got out it was 39 runs from 18 overs ... but they still lost.

But this is the best of the Lot (in 2007 World T20 ) and is actually very hilarious ... I remember laughing my but off watching that match :

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/287876.html

In 2007 World T20 last qroup match vs India they needed 154 to win and finish top of their group, or just score 142 to still finish on top of the group or 126 to just qualify to the semis .... instead they got bundled out for 116 and got ejected from the World T20 altogether.

Their 2011 Worldcup QF loss to NZ was epic too.

 

[WebGuru]

time to update the choke count

who is winning? well nevermind

clash of the ...?

 

[saiyan0312]

Well choke has been defined by two great professors of cricket. The south africans and the pakistanis. need 11 from 12 lose by 1 runs in this day and need 6 from 32 balls with 5 wickets in hand and go all out and lose,

 

[WebGuru]

Well choke has been defined by two great professors of cricket. The south africans and the pakistanis. need 11 from 12 lose by 1 runs in this day and need 6 from 32 balls with 5 wickets in hand and go all out and lose,

The founding fathers of this game also defined it in CT final.

 

[saiyan0312]

The founding fathers of this game also defined it in CT final.

well technically thats bcz of playing too many saffers. you import players you will choke.

 

[WebGuru]

well technically thats bcz of playing too many saffers. you import players you will choke.

now they need more imports from ireland/zimbabwe to balance it

 

[WebGuru]

Bopara

 

[WebGuru]

How to define NZ choke today?

 

[tempus123]

I think Steyn was wonderful in the last over..

 

[Kianig89]

i dont think NZ choked today a if you lose against a bowler of Steyn's quality thats not a choke also the target was not piece of cake

 

[Jo_Don]

i dont think NZ choked today a if you lose against a bowler of Steyn's quality thats not a choke also the target was not piece of cake

7 off 6 needed with 5 wickets remaining mate. Doesn't matter who is bowling, if that is not a choke then I don't know what is.

 

[Mamoon]

Whoever gets choked refuses to acknowledge )

We have witnessed two mega chokes in two days. Period.

 

[Adil_94]

7 off 6 needed with 5 wickets remaining mate. Doesn't matter who is bowling, if that is not a choke then I don't know what is.

Yeah Tbh if your lot did that everyone would have pulled out the choker card

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[Poison]

Choking is losing from a seemingly unassailable position. 7 runs with 5 wickets in 6 balls is near unassailable, you just have to get bat on ball and run . Takes nothing away from the bowler but if NZ hadn't panicked and tried to hit the ball for six they would've won. However 65 off 50 with bowlers of Ajmal/Gul/Afridi's calibre still to come ... not a choke brosephs.

 

[cricwiz]

7 off 6 needed with 5 wickets remaining mate. Doesn't matter who is bowling, if that is not a choke then I don't know what is.

NZ played rubbish cricket in last over... The first ball was there to guide it to vacant third man region and earn an easy four (outside off, full length).. and Ronchi just edged it to keeper...

The next 2 balls wasted by McCullum in search of becoming a hero...

Than it was 7 runs left in 3 balls.. At this point, you'd back Steyn to get things done...and he did it in style...

 

[WebGuru]

I will label it as a choke if SA can't defend almost 300 in 43 overs with bowlers like Steyn, Morkel and Tahir

SA was one bowler short but even thn their main bowlers were going for runs so can't blame it only on 5th bowler

 

[Strike Rate]

SA in a KO match is the best definition i think

 

[trogger]

Nobody chocked today, was just one of the great world cup matches we have seen, both teams made the occasional mistake but there was far more brilliance than stuff ups from both sides but in sport you have to have a loser and a winner.

All you can say is congrats to the kiwis and commiserations to the south africans.

 

[latecut]

South Africans began to drop catches and began to miss easy run out chance. It is nothing but choking on the verge of a certain win.

 

[Buffet]

Hardly a choke today. It was a evenly matched game going till the last 2-3 balls.

I will say that it was a very poor captaincy by AB to not give Tahir next over when he bowled maiden and looked like picking a wicket in each ball. Then you miss few run outs. So over all not a good cricket but NZ was never out of the game and then suddenly won it. They were in control for majority of 2nd inning.

 

[trogger]

South Africans began to drop catches and began to miss easy run out chance. It is nothing but choking on the verge of a certain win.

Kiwis missed chances when they bowled and lost crucial wickets when the target looked comfortable, reality is both sides made some mistakes that could have cost them the match but nz finished with their noses just slightly ahead but does that then undo everything good SA did in the match?

Why is it so horrible to just say the match was a classic that could have easily gone either way?

 

[Thivagar]

Choke : Republic of South Africa

 

[yadunoe]

south africa did choke look at their fielding today they would of won match if they didnt miss easy run out and drop catches

 

[Strike Rate]

When you enter in the match with a fav tag and post a total of 230 on board in 20 overs with a far better bowling attack to defend it but still endup on the losing side

 

[Khan12]

South Africa

 

[carrom_ball]

It wasn't a choke

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Gotta to Saffers for finding ways to get out.

Not a choke but WHAT THE HELL.

Lost defending 230.

 

[Adil_94]

Steyn seems to be choking he hasn't even bowled out his full quota and he's the leader of the attack.

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[carrom_ball]

Lol England seem to choking

 

[Strike Rate]

Gotta to Saffers for finding ways to get out.

Not a choke but WHAT THE HELL.

Lost defending 230.

and guess what they had the better bowling attack and fielding unit lol still wasn't able to defend 230 on board!

 

[Strike Rate]

Steyn seems to be choking he hasn't even bowled out his full quota and he's the leader of the attack.

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His career seems to be over i think he will retire this year just wanted to play ICC event one last time.

 

[Adil_94]

His career seems to be over i think he will retire this year just wanted to play ICC event one last time.

it will be sad to see him retire getting a phainty.

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[Mamoon]

Steyn is so overrated.

 

[Vorador]

Choke: Losing from a strong, winning position.

No total is safe in Wankhede. So, we might be tempted into thinking that SA were in winning position halfway into the match, when in fact they weren't. Besides, it is never wise to judge the outcome of a match before the other team has even begun their innings. SA were losing the game from the first over they bowled.

England's batsmen deserve some respect. That opening pair has been going strong for quite a while now. Right up there with NZ's, IMO.

 

[Thivagar]

Losing 8 wickets for 20 something runs vs South Korea is a choke.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/778031.html

 

[Tusker]

BUMP

This time they "outsourced" the choking to some other team ... i.e let SL decide their fate and they choked on SA's behalf taking down SAF with them ....

 

[WebGuru]

Kohli in World Cup Knockouts?

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Mushfiqur Rahim

 

[nish_mate]

Choke is when you can't score 2 runs in 3 balls with two of your "best" finishers at the crease.

Even worse you have had a premature celebration

Choke is when you cobra your way through a tourney but get DKed when a win is all but in the bag but get mongoosed over

Choke is swallowing back the tears when you first lean on Oz then Eng then SA to India over but are left with bitterness that you all your teams have bottled it

Choke is hoping to sweep shot but been checked mate.

 

[jnaveen1980]

There are two types of choke

1) Self-induced choke
2) Opposition-induced choke

This was a combination of both. I say SA is partly responsible because of the team structure. This is a bad team structure. Nobody knows this better than an Indiain fan. Even most recently our b team struggled to score 35 in 30 balls with 6 wickets in hand. Because opposition was one or two wickets away from rank tail. We lost by 4 runs in West Indies.

Opposition in the sense the sheer knowledge of 2 overs in the tank for Bumrah made them shiver and lose the plot. They bowled brilliantly to further their misery.

 

[AAli98]

SA captain choked in the field after India were 3 down he decided to bowl the next over tried to get a cheap over in were India took 6 single’s happily. Bring ur best pacer finish the game off.

 

[nish_mate]

There are two types of choke

1) Self-induced choke
2) Opposition-induced choke

This was a combination of both. I say SA is partly responsible because of the team structure. This is a bad team structure. Nobody knows this better than an Indiain fan. Even most recently our b team struggled to score 35 in 30 balls with 6 wickets in hand. Because opposition was one or two wickets away from rank tail. We lost by 4 runs in West Indies.

Opposition in the sense the sheer knowledge of 2 overs in the tank for Bumrah made them shiver and lose the plot. They bowled brilliantly to further their misery.

To paraphrase immortal Virus, "Definition do, gyaan naahi"

3 Idiots for the uninitiated

 

[mominsaigol]

Losing from a winning position

 

[jnaveen1980]

To paraphrase immortal Virus, "Definition do, gyaan naahi"

3 Idiots for the uninitiated

You see the end and you falter. But south africa has expanded the definition of it. THey failed to calculate NRR. THey failed to lose gracefully (which would have put them in 2007 semi final)

 

[WengerOut]

Serene progression until a point and then the occassion gets to you, it is choking.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

If it any stage the punters have your at win probability of 90% plus and still manage to lose, that should be called a choke.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Let me counter this

Cricket is a game of glorious uncertainties.

 

[amit]

south african team can define choke better than anyone out here

11 off 12 needed with 6 wickets in hand, still manage to lose by 1 run

11 year old comment but still quite relevant. 27 off 28 needed with 6 wickets in hand and South Africa find a way to lose by 7 runs

Marco Jansen at 7 and Keshav Maharaj at 8 is like 1 position too high for them. Their lower order is pathetic and that's why they rarely seem to win when chasing. They are more of a bat 1st, get 200+ in T20I and 300+ in ODI and win type of a team but will struggle to chase 150+ in T20I and 240+ in ODI

 

[sweep_shot]

Choking is losing from a comfortable winning position.

Losing a "30 off 30 with 6 wickets in hand" game is definitely choking.

 

[JaDed]

Mushfiqur Rahim

That one takes the cake.. 2 from 3 lol

 

[rhony]

Choke is used against some teams while unlucky is used against others. I think they are both the same. In a game of small margins, you need luck to win