Chris Gayle - IPL legend and PSL reject

[R3verse Swing]

The ICC has given the IPL has a dedicated window in order to avoid the conflict between the boards and the players.

If both the IPL and the PSL take place at the same time, there is not a single player in the world (including Pakistani players) who would opt for a PSL contract over an IPL contract.

Secondly, the IPL has nothing do with Kerry Packer's rebel league - the IPL was inspired by the ICL. India saw the potential in T20 cricket and capitalized on it, and if it wasn't for the IPL, cheap rip-offs like the PSL, BPL, CPL and the now-defunct SPL would not have existed.

Come out of the parallel universe that you reside in.

Deary deary me.

You should do your homework instead of coming out with such drivel. ICL was inspired by Packers franchise cricket. So much so ICL was initially for ODis, but having learned lessons from the Packer attempt, ICL switched to T20. The rest is history. This remains a fact despite you bathing the IPL is all its ostentatious glory.

As for your PSL vs. IPL comment, it’s yet another hypothetical, however allow me to indulge in your false flag thinking. I put to you if PSL (or any other T20 league) offered more money compared to the IPL, it would make difference. After all, these are mercenary leagues and players are loyal to money nothing else.

You need to get off cloud cuckoo-land and quit playing fiddle to your Russian paymasters. Though I expect you to shift the goal posts now – so I wait in awe.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Its the other way round.

The reason there are hardly any games during IPL season is because international players would either not play internationals or make an issue about it like Gayle, KP, McCullum etc in past

There's a small point you have not mentioned. IPL was the first mercenary league to take off. At the time had there been other leagues international players wouldn't have bailed on their national duties. Fast forward to now, and international teams have been forced to change their schedule so that their players wouldn't miss national duties. In simple terms players didn't want to play in the IPL because of experience and quality, but simply money. IPL was and remains nothing special.

 

[barah_admi]

There's a small point you have not mentioned. IPL was the first mercenary league to take off. At the time had there been other leagues international players wouldn't have bailed on their national duties. Fast forward to now, and international teams have been forced to change their schedule so that their players wouldn't miss national duties. In simple terms players didn't want to play in the IPL because of experience and quality, but simply money. IPL was and remains nothing special.

There is still likely to be some international cricket this year but I havent checked the schedule. Eng, Aus and SA have traditionally played international cricket regardless of the iPL, although attitudes are changing, especially in the ECB where they are now ok with their players joining the IPL.

I do agree the IPL is nothing beyond money and some Bollywood dancing. It doesnt really have large viewing figures in the UK. Flintoff, KP and plenty of others have spoken about it having a lower quality of cricket compared to other T20 leagues.

Many see the BBL has the best t20 league and from what I've seen, it certainly is, with the PSL second and IPL a distant third. Problem is, the IPL costs more than all those leagues combined haha

Also, India havent won another t20 championship since the start of the IPL and for about 3 editions, didnt even reach the semis.

 

[R3verse Swing]

There is still likely to be some international cricket this year but I havent checked the schedule. Eng, Aus and SA have traditionally played international cricket regardless of the iPL, although attitudes are changing, especially in the ECB where they are now ok with their players joining the IPL.

I do agree the IPL is nothing beyond money and some Bollywood dancing. It doesnt really have large viewing figures in the UK. Flintoff, KP and plenty of others have spoken about it having a lower quality of cricket compared to other T20 leagues.

Many see the BBL has the best t20 league and from what I've seen, it certainly is, with the PSL second and IPL a distant third. Problem is, the IPL costs more than all those leagues combined haha

Also, India havent won another t20 championship since the start of the IPL and for about 3 editions, didnt even reach the semis.

Agreed. It's a myth that IPL is built on quality and provides experience. If IPL apologists believe hitting leg-side pies for boundaries is quality then that's their issue. As you have rightly said, Indian players benefit more from IPL yet their record in World T20 comps and T20is suggests otherwise.

As I mentioned before, such mercenary leagues do have a silver lining in that young and upcoming players are scouted. Beyond that there's nothing else other than greed.

 

[Nitya85]

There is still likely to be some international cricket this year but I havent checked the schedule. Eng, Aus and SA have traditionally played international cricket regardless of the iPL, although attitudes are changing, especially in the ECB where they are now ok with their players joining the IPL.

I do agree the IPL is nothing beyond money and some Bollywood dancing. It doesnt really have large viewing figures in the UK. Flintoff, KP and plenty of others have spoken about it having a lower quality of cricket compared to other T20 leagues.

Many see the BBL has the best t20 league and from what I've seen, it certainly is, with the PSL second and IPL a distant third. Problem is, the IPL costs more than all those leagues combined haha

Also, India havent won another t20 championship since the start of the IPL and for about 3 editions, didnt even reach the semis.

IPL distant third
Ya only for Pakistanis and thr is a reason behind it
Faceplam

 

[barah_admi]

IPL distant third
Ya only for Pakistanis and thr is a reason behind it����
Faceplam

KP, Flintoff of some others aren't Pakistani.

Nice try though

 

[Mamoon]

Deary deary me.

You should do your homework instead of coming out with such drivel. ICL was inspired by Packers franchise cricket. So much so ICL was initially for ODis, but having learned lessons from the Packer attempt, ICL switched to T20. The rest is history. This remains a fact despite you bathing the IPL is all its ostentatious glory.

As for your PSL vs. IPL comment, it’s yet another hypothetical, however allow me to indulge in your false flag thinking. I put to you if PSL (or any other T20 league) offered more money compared to the IPL, it would make difference. After all, these are mercenary leagues and players are loyal to money nothing else.

You need to get off cloud cuckoo-land and quit playing fiddle to your Russian paymasters. Though I expect you to shift the goal posts now – so I wait in awe.

Once again, T20 franchise concept would have taken with or without Kerry Packer. Cricket boards are not fools - they see the money and the attraction in T20 cricket. When England established the first proper T20 league in 2004, it got more crowds than ODIs. Similarly, the first WT20 in 2007 was also a massive successive.

India were simply ahead of the game and they tapped the potential early and poured massive amount of money. As a result, other boards had to play catchup.

Yes, you have made a great discovery by wearing your Captain Obvious hat and stating that players play in the IPL for money only. Of course they do.

That's the whole point, isn't it? The IPL has the most resources and they get the best players in the world, which is why they have the most successful and highest quality T20 league in the world. If PSL develops better resources than the IPL, it will attract better players. However, if my aunt had ..... you know the drill.

The quality of a T20 league is measured by the pool of foreign players, and this is where the IPL wipes the floor with every other league in the world. Everything else is subjective, i.e. the pitches etc. Some people prefer low scoring T20s and some high. If believing that the quality of cricket is higher in the PSL than the IPL makes you feel better, good for you.

 

[Nitya85]

KP, Flintoff of some others aren't Pakistani.

Nice try though

Haha Even u know wats the reality
And jus bcoz KP and Flintoff sayng something the fact will not change

Anyway if thinking like that and denying the facts makes u feel good..then Carry on

 

[Nitya85]

KP, Flintoff of some others aren't Pakistani.

Nice try though

And You ppl are aware that financially PSL can never compete with IPL..no way near
So just to please ur mind u finding new ways like standard and quality of cricket and all ths..

Its damm laughable and i really want to know how u determine standard and quality of the cricket..90% of PSL Foreign recruits are IPL rejected...and talking abt Local Pakistani Players u knw thr level in Batting and Fielding (Barring Bowling in which u always good )..and U Conduct PSL in Dubai on damp pitches which neither good for bowling nor for batting and no one give damn abt it thr in dubai

So all ths terms u have invented like Quality Standard are good to please urself..

 

[R3verse Swing]

Once again, T20 franchise concept would have taken with or without Kerry Packer. Cricket boards are not fools - they see the money and the attraction in T20 cricket. When England established the first proper T20 league in 2004, it got more crowds than ODIs. Similarly, the first WT20 in 2007 was also a massive successive.

India were simply ahead of the game and they tapped the potential early and poured massive amount of money. As a result, other boards had to play catchup.

Yes, you have made a great discovery by wearing your Captain Obvious hat and stating that players play in the IPL for money only. Of course they do.

That's the whole point, isn't it? The IPL has the most resources and they get the best players in the world, which is why they have the most successful and highest quality T20 league in the world. If PSL develops better resources than the IPL, it will attract better players. However, if my aunt had ..... you know the drill.

The quality of a T20 league is measured by the pool of foreign players, and this is where the IPL wipes the floor with every other league in the world. Everything else is subjective, i.e. the pitches etc. Some people prefer low scoring T20s and some high. If believing that the quality of cricket is higher in the PSL than the IPL makes you feel better, good for you.

I never once claimed quality was higher in PSL compared to the IPL. You are just making stuff up now which doesn't surprise me given your initial premise was torpedoed.

The rest of your post is just rehashed and irrelevant nonsense.

 

[Mamoon]

I never once claimed quality was higher in PSL compared to the IPL. You are just making stuff up now which doesn't surprise me given your initial premise was torpedoed.

The rest of your post is just rehashed and irrelevant nonsense.

You have no answer to the rest of my post which is why you chose to ignore it. What was my initial premise? Let me restate it:

The ICC has given the IPL a dedicated window in order to avoid the conflict between the boards and the players. It has the most successful T20 league in the world because it has the best pool of star players.

The IPL has nothing to do with Kerry Pacer WSC - the dynamics are completely different. The WSC happened because of two major factors: international cricketers were underpaid and Channel Nine was at loggerheads with the ACB.

The IPL is not a product of any conflict or because international cricketers don't make good money - it is simply capitalized on the potential of cricket's newest format and the money it can make in the future.

England was the first country to officially launch T20 cricket, but India was the first country to "glamorize" it. They did so by associating it with their Bollywood industry and managed to sell the concept to people like SRK, Ambani and other tycoons.

The invested their money and the rest is history. Of course, players do not play for KKR and CSK and SRH because of loyalty; they play because of the huge money involved.

The Indian market is huge and the IPL is already established and getting bigger and bigger. It is practically impossibly for any league to compete with it. The money involved is incomparable.

You can thank me for the free history lesson. Have a good day.

 

[R3verse Swing]

I will thank you for the barrel of laughs you have provided me this morning, Mamoon.

Thank you.

Best!

 

[Abdullah719]

22-ball fifty in IPL for IPL legend

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

He's smashing our trundlers, and deservingly so...

 

[RainMan_]

Legendary thread.

 

[IndianFan2018]

He's smashing our trundlers, and deservingly so...

also smashed

 

[RainMan_]

also smashed

Quality of bowing in IPL is like..... Cough... Cough....

 

[Syed1]

22-ball fifty in IPL for IPL legend

But but but he was past his best when he played in PSL

 

[IndianFan2018]

But but but he was past his best when he played in PSL

Ronchi retired for good when he joined PSL, so legends can have good day or good tournament, like Misbha did in his late years of his career . Being sensible cricket fan underestimating player like Gayle is really strange !

 

[dhonixi]

Gayle enjoys true pitches. Uae has sluggish pitches. You can't compare bowling of leagues when there is massive difference in quality of batting in two leagues.

 

[Poutine]

Why is it so hard to admit that it seems to be harder to score in PSL? It could be because of the bowlers or the pitches(or a combination) but it remains a fact.

 

[Rahul1]

Okay nowhere did I suggest that Kohli will be a walking wicket or that our current bowling attack at the moment is the GOAT.

All I am saying is that Kohli will not find it as easy to “destroy” our current bowling attack containing Amir, Hasan and Shadab.

Strange to claim our team is mediocre...

World class batsmen in Babar Azam and Haris Sohail.
3 world class bowlers in Mohammad Amir, Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan.
Promising hard hitting all rounder in Faheem Ashraf.

The only mediocre players are Imad and Hafeez.

How did I miss this gem.

 

[barah_admi]

Well Gayle was rejected twice in this years IPL haha

 

[IndianFan2018]

How did I miss this gem.

Lol ...good catch

 

[Syed1]

Why is it so hard to admit that it seems to be harder to score in PSL? It could be because of the bowlers or the pitches(or a combination) but it remains a fact.

Seems like it'll hurt people's egoes if they accept anything that is good about the PSL.

 

[kuskash]

But but but he was past his best when he played in PSL

Do you mean Ronchi, Kamran are better batsmen than Gayle? Unique cricketing knowledge

 

[babajee]

How did I miss this gem.

What? Babar Azam and Haris Sohail are world class.

 

[Syed1]

Do you mean Ronchi, Kamran are better batsmen than Gayle? Unique cricketing knowledge

Gayle played 2 seasons of PSL couldn't buy a run and went unsold for the third season. You lot are turning PP into YouTube comments section. Atleast have some prior knowledge before mouthing off.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Gayle played 2 seasons of PSL couldn't buy a run and went unsold for the third season. You lot are turning PP into YouTube comments section. Atleast have some prior knowledge before mouthing off.

So a player failed in two season should not score in third one ..great insight bro

 

[kuskash]

Gayle played 2 seasons of PSL couldn't buy a run and went unsold for the third season. You lot are turning PP into YouTube comments section. Atleast have some prior knowledge before mouthing off.

Yeah right, Mr. "I am always right as I have the best knowledge of cricket and people do not laugh at me", lol. Who said that Gayle can never score in third season if he failed in first two. If Ronchi and Kamran can score, then buddy if you do not know, Gayle is much better than both, not only in limited overs but in tests too. RIP cricketing knowledge when it comes to bashing anything India. Person like you is best for a coaching role for Pakistani cricket team who can bless team with his cricketing knowledge.

 

[dhonixi]

Gayle is nobody but Ronchi, Bopara are superstars. Bopara is PSL legend.

 

[mankuTimma]

Gayle played 2 seasons of PSL couldn't buy a run and went unsold for the third season. You lot are turning PP into YouTube comments section. Atleast have some prior knowledge before mouthing off.

Ronchi was discarded by 2 countries and IPL but he was megastar in PSL this season.

 

[Syed1]

Ronchi was discarded by 2 countries and IPL but he was megastar in PSL this season.

So 1 Ronchi is your example.


Whereas PSL failures like Narine, BMac, Gayle and Russell who have done splendidly in the IPL are not enough evidence to suggest, that maybe, just maybe the bowling standards in the PSL might be higher than the IPL?



Some people are too small that they cannot appreciate the good in others.

 

[Rahul1]

What? Babar Azam and Haris Sohail are world class.

So Haris with a grand total of 2 tests and 20 odd Odis is a world class player.

Babar azam with an average of 30 something against top 5 odi teams and test batting average lower than Ashwin and Jadeja is a world class batsman.

If over hyping was an olympic sport Pakistan will win gold medal every time.

 

[Syed1]

So Haris with a grand total of 2 tests and 20 odd Odis is a world class player.

Babar azam with an average of 30 something against top 5 odi teams and test batting average lower than Ashwin and Jadeja is a world class batsman.

If over hyping was an olympic sport Pakistan will win gold medal every time.

Babar Azam has played 25 ODI matches against Aus, Eng, NZ, SA and Ind in which he has scored 1 century and 5 fifties. His stats are average of 39 and strike rate 82.


If I pull out the same stats for Rohit Sharma against Aus, Eng, NZ, SA and Pak (replaced Ind obv)... he averages 42 at 86 SR after 92 matches.

Against same 5 sides, Dhawan has stats of 42 and 94 after 53 matches





So Babar at 39/82 is over-hyped and Sharma and Dhawan with 42/86 and 42/94 respectively are world-class.

 

[Poutine]

Gayle is nobody but Ronchi, Bopara are superstars. Bopara is PSL legend.

Not really expect the first season he hasn't done much. But carry on, don't let stuff like facts get in the way of your rants against PSL.

 

[kuskash]

Babar Azam has played 25 ODI matches against Aus, Eng, NZ, SA and Ind in which he has scored 1 century and 5 fifties. His stats are average of 39 and strike rate 82.


If I pull out the same stats for Rohit Sharma against Aus, Eng, NZ, SA and Pak (replaced Ind obv)... he averages 42 at 86 SR after 92 matches.

Against same 5 sides, Dhawan has stats of 42 and 94 after 53 matches




So Babar at 39/82 is over-hyped and Sharma and Dhawan with 42/86 and 42/94 respectively are world-class.

Of course, they are world class by Pak standards.

 

[babajee]

[MENTION=146727]Rahul1[/MENTION]

Babar is ranked number 1 in T20
Babar is ranked number 4 in ODI

Hopefully you can accept this fact.

 

[Rahul1]

[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] How many match winning hundreds against top 5 odi teams or test tons by Mr. Azam?

And no comments about Haris Sohail?

 

[kuskash]

[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] How many match winning hundreds against top 5 odi teams or test tons by Mr. Azam?

And no comments about Haris Sohail?

Good luck for getting straight forward answer from them. They will try showing deficits of other players in order to show greatness of players of their interest.

 

[Syed1]

[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] How many match winning hundreds against top 5 odi teams or test tons by Mr. Azam?

And no comments about Haris Sohail?

First you bring averages and when you have facts thrown on your face you shift goal posts to match winning hundreds ) )



And it is stupid to discuss about Haris since he is coming back from a 2-3 year injury layoff and hasn't played consistently enough.

 

[Send1983]

Gayle scored one game PSL fans started jumping up and down like they did for mccullam and narine. Both have been failing since then. Gayle has been a failure in IPL last few yrs. That's why RCB let him go and He didn't have buyer this year. He was a big hit in IPL when he was at peak of his power. He was not only a big player in IPL he was a big player of BBL and for his country too. PSL had so many IPL rejects in their league. You guys are talking as if Gayle is an international failure like Kamran Akmal or Ronchi. BTW Gayle had no PSL buyer because his minimum price is too high for PSL to afford that too for a player who is in last year's of his career. Otherwise if Dinesh Ramdin is still better buy than Chris Gayle, then PSL owners are even dumber than IPL owner who paid million for unadkad.

 

[Rahul1]

First you bring averages and when you have facts thrown on your face you shift goal posts to match winning hundreds ) )



And it is stupid to discuss about Haris since he is coming back from a 2-3 year injury layoff and hasn't played consistently enough.

Alright. Let's talk about averages - Against sri lanka and West Indies - 78

Excluding them - 38

What a legend.

 

[Rahul1]

First you bring averages and when you have facts thrown on your face you shift goal posts to match winning hundreds ) )



And it is stupid to discuss about Haris since he is coming back from a 2-3 year injury layoff and hasn't played consistently enough.

Is it? According to babajee, Haris is already a world class batsman.

 

[kuskash]

Gayle scored one game PSL fans started jumping up and down like they did for mccullam and narine. Both have been failing since then. Gayle has been a failure in IPL last few yrs. That's why RCB let him go and He didn't have buyer this year. He was a big hit in IPL when he was at peak of his power. He was not only a big player in IPL he was a big player of BBL and for his country too. PSL had so many IPL rejects in their league. You guys are talking as if Gayle is an international failure like Kamran Akmal or Ronchi. BTW Gayle had no PSL buyer because his minimum price is too high for PSL to afford that too for a player who is in last year's of his career. Otherwise if Dinesh Ramdin is still better buy than Chris Gayle, then PSL owners are even dumber than IPL owner who paid million for unadkad.

Nailed it bro.

 

[jnaveen1980]

IPL legend? Gayle is an international T20 legend. He ripped guys like Johnson, Lee to shreds in international match like world T20. He doesn't have to prove at IPL or PSL how awesome he is.

 

[DeadBall]

IPL legend? Gayle is an international T20 legend. He ripped guys like Johnson, Lee to shreds in international match like world T20. He doesn't have to prove at IPL or PSL how awesome he is.

True. Guy can rip apart any bowling attack apart if he stays in for an over or two.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Gayle scored one game PSL fans started jumping up and down like they did for mccullam and narine. Both have been failing since then. Gayle has been a failure in IPL last few yrs. That's why RCB let him go and He didn't have buyer this year. He was a big hit in IPL when he was at peak of his power. He was not only a big player in IPL he was a big player of BBL and for his country too. PSL had so many IPL rejects in their league. You guys are talking as if Gayle is an international failure like Kamran Akmal or Ronchi. BTW Gayle had no PSL buyer because his minimum price is too high for PSL to afford that too for a player who is in last year's of his career. Otherwise if Dinesh Ramdin is still better buy than Chris Gayle, then PSL owners are even dumber than IPL owner who paid million for unadkad.

This should end the debate ...superb post bro. Obsession of comparing anything and everything with IPL is becoming annoying

is legend of world cricket !

 

[IndianFan2018]

So 1 Ronchi is your example.


Whereas PSL failures like Narine, BMac, Gayle and Russell who have done splendidly in the IPL are not enough evidence to suggest, that maybe, just maybe the bowling standards in the PSL might be higher than the IPL?



Some people are too small that they cannot appreciate the good in others.

Good advice, sometimes what we preach if we follow first it will be awesome bro, cheers

 

[mankuTimma]

So 1 Ronchi is your example.


Whereas PSL failures like Narine, BMac, Gayle and Russell who have done splendidly in the IPL are not enough evidence to suggest, that maybe, just maybe the bowling standards in the PSL might be higher than the IPL?



Some people are too small that they cannot appreciate the good in others.

Just check the top 5 highest run scorers in PSL so far,only one is regular in national side rest are failures or has beens. You can go all the way down to top 15 and find most of them oldies or discarded by national teams.

 

[Titan24]

Gayle scored one game PSL fans started jumping up and down like they did for mccullam and narine. Both have been failing since then. Gayle has been a failure in IPL last few yrs. That's why RCB let him go and He didn't have buyer this year. He was a big hit in IPL when he was at peak of his power. He was not only a big player in IPL he was a big player of BBL and for his country too. PSL had so many IPL rejects in their league. You guys are talking as if Gayle is an international failure like Kamran Akmal or Ronchi. BTW Gayle had no PSL buyer because his minimum price is too high for PSL to afford that too for a player who is in last year's of his career. Otherwise if Dinesh Ramdin is still better buy than Chris Gayle, then PSL owners are even dumber than IPL owner who paid million for unadkad.

Bro honestly you need to do some research. Chris Gayle was paid $200,000 by LQ in season one and around $220,000 in season 2 by Karachi Kings.

Current IPL franchise which has bought him are paying him $200,000. So I guess money isnt the issue for him being dropped in PSL. Its his non performance in PSL which has costed him good amount of money.

Posters here can discuss all about whether its pitches or its the bowling quality but the end result is he hasnt performed for his franchise in PSL so why would any franchise buy him.

 

[WengerOut]

Bro honestly you need to do some research. Chris Gayle was paid $200,000 by LQ in season one and around $220,000 in season 2 by Karachi Kings.

Current IPL franchise which has bought him are paying him $200,000. So I guess money isnt the issue for him being dropped in PSL. Its his non performance in PSL which has costed him good amount of money.

Posters here can discuss all about whether its pitches or its the bowling quality but the end result is he hasnt performed for his franchise in PSL so why would any franchise buy him.

I think his record is similar in IPL and PSL for the last 2 seasons ( 2016 and 2017 ) IIRC and that too with IPL played on easier pitches.

 

[jaguarjack]

Bro honestly you need to do some research. Chris Gayle was paid $200,000 by LQ in season one and around $220,000 in season 2 by Karachi Kings.

Current IPL franchise which has bought him are paying him $200,000. So I guess money isnt the issue for him being dropped in PSL. Its his non performance in PSL which has costed him good amount of money.

Posters here can discuss all about whether its pitches or its the bowling quality but the end result is he hasnt performed for his franchise in PSL so why would any franchise buy him.

I think Send1983 meant that $200k is top of the line salary in PSL and the franchises weren't willing to pay that much for someone who hasn't performed well in the previous seasons. He had no takers in the first 3 rounds of IPL bidding either. It was only in the last round he got sold, which was a bit of surprise for most people. That too for $200 which is middle to lower middle salary range in IPL.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Dinesh Ramdin is a PSL star and IPL teams won't even touch him with a danda.

 

[IndianFan2018]

I think Send1983 meant that $200k is top of the line salary in PSL and the franchises weren't willing to pay that much for someone who hasn't performed well in the previous seasons. He had no takers in the first 3 rounds of IPL bidding either. It was only in the last round he got sold, which was a bit of surprise for most people. That too for $200 which is middle to lower middle salary range in IPL.

was choosen more for his star value than performance... Looks like masterstroke from KXIP he already won one match for them. Anything else does this season IPL, will be bonus for the franchise.

Good gamble by Viru and Priety

 

[UN talkz]

Dinesh Ramdin is a PSL star and IPL teams won't even touch him with a danda.

PSL star???? Seriously
He failed miserably there

 

[Syed1]

Dinesh Ramdin is a PSL star and IPL teams won't even touch him with a danda.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

 

[WengerOut]

PSL star???? Seriously
He failed miserably there

Chris Gayle has been poor in IPL for the seasons 2016 and 2017 ( same years he played for PSL ) . So I am not sure which star you guys are talking about. He has generally regressed.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bro honestly you need to do some research. Chris Gayle was paid $200,000 by LQ in season one and around $220,000 in season 2 by Karachi Kings.

Current IPL franchise which has bought him are paying him $200,000. So I guess money isnt the issue for him being dropped in PSL. Its his non performance in PSL which has costed him good amount of money.

Posters here can discuss all about whether its pitches or its the bowling quality but the end result is he hasnt performed for his franchise in PSL so why would any franchise buy him.

They are paying him $300000 plus. INR to Dollar hovers around 65. So 2cr inr is 300k plus

Now 300k is more than what platinum players in PSL get, which is about $150k?

 

[UN talkz]

Chris Gayle has been poor in IPL for the seasons 2016 and 2017 ( same years he played for PSL ) . So I am not sure which star you guys are talking about. He has generally regressed.

Bhai, bhai, bhai please see which post i quoted.
The poster was talking about Ramdin.

 

[WengerOut]

Bhai, bhai, bhai please see which post i quoted.
The poster was talking about Ramdin.

Bhai . That is what I am saying. IPL legend ?? Yes. Washed up? Yes. He was never an IPL star and a PSL flop at the same time.

 

[UN talkz]

Bhai . That is what I am saying. IPL legend ?? Yes. Washed up? Yes. He was never an IPL star and a PSL flop at the same time.

Once again I am talking about Ramdin not Gayle

 

[WengerOut]

Once again I am talking about Ramdin not Gayle

You were surprised that Ramdin was called a superstar. Same way I was surprised you guys calling Gayle a success at IPL and failure at PSL when infact during the time he played for both leagues he was similarly bad.

 

[UN talkz]

You were surprised that Ramdin was called a superstar. Same way I was surprised you guys calling Gayle a success at IPL and failure at PSL when infact during the time he played for both leagues he was similarly bad.

Look i never said that; if u look at overall stats, then Gayle is certainly an ATG IPL player, he didn't perform in PSL and wasn't selected, he didn't perform in IPL during the same period but he was still selected at a price he simply doesn't deserve anymore.

 

[WengerOut]

Look i never said that; if u look at overall stats, then Gayle is certainly an ATG IPL player, he didn't perform in PSL and wasn't selected, he didn't perform in IPL during the same period but he was still selected at a price he simply doesn't deserve anymore.

If you have got money to afford , then U can purchase a star player which can attract major marketing values. You only need to look at the ads featuring Gayle. But it is portrayed here as PSL being too big an Everest for Gayle and IPL is easier. If that is the case , what about Ronchi , Ramdin etc who are not even in the reckoning for IPL. Seriously , Ramdin !! You can find better players in Pak Street Cricket.

 

[IndianFan2018]

If you have got money to afford , then U can purchase a star player which can attract major marketing values. You only need to look at the ads featuring Gayle. But it is portrayed here as PSL being too big an Everest for Gayle and IPL is easier. If that is the case , what about Ronchi , Ramdin etc who are not even in the reckoning for IPL. Seriously , Ramdin !! You can find better players in Pak Street Cricket.

You made the point. Good explanation bro #cheers

 

[Princejain191]

I think IPL bowling quality is higher mainly because of the quality of foreign players in the IPL. Most non-Pak players that you see in T20I or ODI rankings are playing in IPL.

And then Indian domestic structure has improved too. Guys like Pant, Ishan, Samson, Mandeep compete in run-scoring and strike rates with AB, Virat and the like. The quality of batting between IPL and PSL is actually the major difference.

I won't say pitches in PSL were too bad because Ronchi and Kamran showed that you can score fast and consistently on those wickets too. So, guys like Virat, AB, Rahul, Lewis, Butler, Stokes, etc would have scored well too in PSL in general.

 

[Send1983]

Bro honestly you need to do some research. Chris Gayle was paid $200,000 by LQ in season one and around $220,000 in season 2 by Karachi Kings.

Current IPL franchise which has bought him are paying him $200,000. So I guess money isnt the issue for him being dropped in PSL. Its his non performance in PSL which has costed him good amount of money.

Posters here can discuss all about whether its pitches or its the bowling quality but the end result is he hasnt performed for his franchise in PSL so why would any franchise buy him.

You just proved my point. PSL paid him 200k in first 2 seasons which is a top salary for PSL. Gayle has lost his star value in recent years which is natural as he is not young anymore and he is in his last yrs of his career. I am sure Gayle would have lowered his min price to 100 to 150 K as he knows his worth. Still that is well above salary in PSL. That’s why I said PSL can’t afford to spend 100 to 150k on someone who can’t field, who can’t run between the wickets, who can only hit sixes that too on a good day.

Whereas in IPL, his 200k min price is below average price paid to overseas players. Still they rejected him originally but Punjab took a chance later on and picked him as all they wanted from him is to win 2 or 3 games.

 

[UN talkz]

If you have got money to afford , then U can purchase a star player which can attract major marketing values. You only need to look at the ads featuring Gayle. But it is portrayed here as PSL being too big an Everest for Gayle and IPL is easier. If that is the case , what about Ronchi , Ramdin etc who are not even in the reckoning for IPL. Seriously , Ramdin !! You can find better players in Pak Street Cricket.

Nobody says PSL(or any other league) is better than IPL, but when u ask pak posters to choose one, they will definitely choose PSL as it's their own league.

 

[WengerOut]

Nobody says PSL(or any other league) is better than IPL, but when u ask pak posters to choose one, they will definitely choose PSL as it's their own league.

Yeah. No issues bhai. Was just explaining. Cheers.

 

[Send1983]

Look i never said that; if u look at overall stats, then Gayle is certainly an ATG IPL player, he didn't perform in PSL and wasn't selected, he didn't perform in IPL during the same period but he was still selected at a price he simply doesn't deserve anymore.

Like I mentioned above, 200k in PSL is highest paid salary whereas same 200k in IPL is lowest or below average salaries.

If Gayle was ready to play for below average price like 25k, if PSL didn’t pick him but picked players like Dinesh Ramdin, Denly, etc, then PSL owners are as dumb as some of IPL owners.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Nobody says PSL(or any other league) is better than IPL, but when u ask pak posters to choose one, they will definitely choose PSL as it's their own league.

Bro ... Choosing own league over others is natural. Only concern by most Indian fans is, posters try to degrade IPL just to show PSL look good with multiple threads / posts.

Compared to this when PSL was running, not many Indian posters didn't bother to do the same with PSL, most of them wished good for PSL.

Ofcourse bad apples were there both sides, but amount of negative comments on IPL is too much IMO.

One can always priase own product without degrading other established products

 

[UN talkz]

Bro ... Choosing own league over others is natural. Only concern by most Indian fans is, posters try to degrade IPL just to show PSL look good with multiple threads / posts.

Compared to this when PSL was running, not many Indian posters didn't bother to do the same with PSL, most of them wished good for PSL.

Ofcourse bad apples were there both sides, but amount of negative comments on IPL is too much IMO.

One can always priase own product without degrading other established products

Bro that is also natural because majority of posters here are Pakistanis.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Bro that is also natural because majority of posters here are Pakistanis.

Hmmm... Let's agree to disagree, that is not the only reason. You don't see same bad blood towards BBL, CPL etc. Ofcourse our history adds more fuel to fire

 

[UN talkz]

Hmmm... Let's agree to disagree, that is not the only reason. You don't see same bad blood towards BBL, CPL etc. Ofcourse our history adds more fuel to fire

That is because nobody cares about what happens in BBL and CPL.
IPL is the ultimate competition for all leagues.

 

[IndianFan2018]

That is because nobody cares about what happens in BBL and CPL.
IPL is the ultimate competition for all leagues.

Ha ha ... Good one bro, may be

 

[big_gamer007]

Ha ha ... Good one bro, may be

The truth is foreign players who play in IPL don’t give two hoots about PSL.. They save their best for IPL because of the money involved and use PSL just for a vacation in the desert..

 

[Hasan123]

Gayle is a T20 legend regardless of his performances in the PSL.

 

[mankuTimma]

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

If only you realized this earlier i dont think any of the posters still fighting

 

[DeadBall]

Another century for Universe Boss.